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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on January 06, 2018, 09:50:52 PM
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If Markus keeps playing, and scoring, like he has the last few games, he is going to get mentioned a lot in sentences that include Trae Young. Add in a potential run at the all-time NCAA consecutive free-throw record and he could be top national marquee player by March. (consecutive free-throw record is 85, Novak had 68. Howard is at 60 consecutive and counting ...9 last season and 51 this season.)
So ... if we are a bubble team, does the "star power" of Markus push us into the tourney?
To be clear, first, we have to be a legit bubble team, he cannot make an undeserving team get a bid. So the question is how much does politics and hype play for teams on the bubble? If Markus is a "name" in college basketball and MU is one of the last teams under consideration, does the committee think MU/Markus in Buffalo or Orlando or Sacremento means more interest and better attendance and lean toward MU getting in?
Thoughts?
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I believe it’s now 60 straight
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No. If we go 8-10 in the Big East, probably out. If we go 9-9, probably in. If we go 10-8, definitely in. It's that simple.
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I believe it’s now 60 straight
45 straight this season (Nova included)
7 for 7 against Seton Hall in the BET. Missed against Creighton the game before, and had no FT attempts against South Carolina in the Tourney
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4065805/year/2017/markus-howard
7 staright to end last season, 45 straight this season ... 52 and counting.
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He had 2 makes at the end of Creighton last year. That makes 9 from last season. The 45 was before today. He's at 51 after today. 60 total.
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60
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He had 2 makes at the end of Creighton last year. That makes 9 from last season. The 45 was before today. He's at 51 after today. 60 total.
He was at 38 after Providence
The Nova game is on the list, all the data is updated real time.
Adding in the two makes in the Creighton game makes it 54.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065805/markus-howard
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/markus-howard-1/gamelog/2018/
45/45 going into tonight
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Andrew Goldstein
Andrew Goldstein
@AndyGold24
Markus Howard made all three FTs. His streak is now at 57, just 11 shy of Steve Novak for the program record. One of only two players in the NCAA without a missed FT (and enough attempts to qualify). #mubb
This was before he made his last 3 of the night. 60
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He was at 38 after Providence
The Nova game is on the list, all the data is updated real time.
Adding in the two makes in the Creighton game makes it 54.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065805/markus-howard
Incorrect. ESPN doesn't update season stats until the day after a game. He is 51/51 this season. He made his last 9 of last season for 60 consecutive.
You can add it up in his game log if you like: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4065805/markus-howard
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Incorrect. ESPN doesn't update season stats until the day after a game. He is 51/51 this season. He made his last 9 of last season for 60 consecutive.
You can add it up in his game log if you like: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4065805/markus-howard
No, I believe you ... ESPN hired some crap-ass programmers as this should be updated real-time. It is not that hard.
It is 60
4 away from top 5 all-time
8 away from Novak
25 away from the record
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/fwQoMX7mILzLlgk_kvgy.w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MzEwO2g9NDY2O2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusncaabexperts/Fullscreen-capture-5262012-61205-PM.jpg)
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The team will get in if they deserve it as a team.
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Andrew Goldstein
Andrew Goldstein
@AndyGold24
Markus Howard made all three FTs. His streak is now at 57, just 11 shy of Steve Novak for the program record. One of only two players in the NCAA without a missed FT (and enough attempts to qualify). #mubb
This was before he made his last 3 of the night. 60
Who is the other player?
ESPN only shows Markus with 100%
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws
(Rowsey #32)
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Yes, I believe the bids are very by the book, BUT the NCAA is not oblivious to good story lines so if there was a close call at the end and Markus seemed to make Marquette a more entertaining game than another team or two that were very close I believe it can be an unwritten tiebreaker to which they would never admit.
Another excitement factor they could consider is all the spectacular dunk highlights against Marquette no matter who we face! Luckily they are only 2 points each, and we can always out Theo in whenever we need them denied at the rim!
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Who is the other player?
ESPN only shows Markus with 100%
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws
(Rowsey #32)
Unless he means all divisions.
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Some dude from Wofford is perfect I believe.
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Yes, I believe the bids are very by the book, BUT the NCAA is not oblivious to good story lines so if there was a close call at the end and Markus seemed to make Marquette a more entertaining game than another team or two that were very close I believe it can be an unwritten tiebreaker to which they would never admit.
Agree - if it comes down to a "jump ball" having a dynamic player like Markus could be the difference.
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Fletcher Magee.
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Fletcher Magee.
34/34 so far this season. Got to the line 122 times last season, that's a steep drop off.
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34/34 so far this season. Got to the line 122 times last season, that's a steep drop off.
Why is he not on this list?
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws
Or this list?
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2018-leaders.html
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I'd assume he doesn't have enough attempts but I don't know. I don't work for those websites.
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He most likely just fell off. He is averaging 2.4 FT’s per game. Pretty sure you need to be at 2.5 per.
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Original question..... If Markus's play leads to a 9-9 or better conference record, then yes. If the rest of the team stands around and watches him and MU finishes 8-10 or worse, no.
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If the Warriors get over the bubble, they will need more than Markus. They will need to have Rowsey stop crapping all over the floor; they will need Froling to be a "difference maker" rather than absolutely "no difference"; they will need to get Hauser more involved offensively, and most importantly, they will need to have Wojo impart his "defensive prowess" to the team, which we have not seen in 3 and one half years of his regime.
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If the Warriors get over the bubble, they will need more than Markus. They will need to have Rowsey stop crapping all over the floor; they will need Froling to be a "difference maker" rather than absolutely "no difference"; they will need to get Hauser more involved offensively, and most importantly, they will need to have Wojo impart his "defensive prowess" to the team, which we have not seen in 3 and one half years of his regime.
Unfortunately Williie, you are right.
Fortunately, I see a bright light at the end of the tunnel in the next two years. Let's not forget how bad 'Nova stunk when they were rebuilding ...not too long ago.
Let's enjoy the ride.
Froling is a head scratcher. He clearly has the green light from Wojo to take those shots.
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We need to have at least one win against Xavier, Villanova or Seton hall to have a chance. The next game is our best chance.
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We need to have at least one win against Xavier, Villanova or Seton hall to have a chance. The next game is our best chance.
False.
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False.
Exactly. If MU goes 10-6 in the conference and gets swept by SH, Nova and X, they are still in the tournament.
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Exactly. If MU goes 10-6 in the conference and gets swept by SH, Nova and X, they are still in the tournament.
I'll be very worried if we go 10-6. Why wouldn't they play the last two games of the season. Global Thermonuclear War?
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LOL. Good point.
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Exactly. If MU goes 10-6 in the conference and gets swept by SH, Nova and X, they are still in the tournament.
Yes, they’ll be like an 7 or 8 seed.
9-9 with 6 losses to X, Nova and SHU still more than likely has then inside the cutline.
Don’t get me wrong, winning 1 of the remaining 4 games against those those thrwe teams would ease a lot of pressure, but Ws are not requirements to dance.
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We need to have at least one win against Xavier, Villanova or Seton hall to have a chance. The next game is our best chance.
If we play decently, we can beat Villanova at home, and can beat Xavier also. Have not seen SH play.
But we need more than Markus. More emphasis on Hauser, and Rowsey to quit playing like a dufus. Isn't he a 5th year senior? And Froling? Somebody said he is a 3 point shooter. When will he start making some? If Froling can step up and match his alleged potential with performance, MU can go a ways. Right now he is just another big with fouls to add.
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NCAA routinely factors in Q ratings into its formula for bubble teams. That LSU Ben Simmons team was soooo close.
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NCAA routinely factors in Q ratings into its formula for bubble teams. That LSU Ben Simmons team was soooo close.
Like I said, they first have to be a legit bubble team. Simmons' LSU was not.
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Yes, I believe the bids are very by the book, BUT the NCAA is not oblivious to good story lines
NCAA routinely factors in Q ratings into its formula for bubble teams. That LSU Ben Simmons team was soooo close.
We hear these kinds of things, but I don't think there's any truth to it at all. Sometimes there's just no way to avoid a storyline, while at other times there are obvious storylines by seed line they avoid. If anyone can provide specific examples of storylines or Q rating determining bids/matchups, I'd love to hear them.
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Exactly. If MU goes 10-6 in the conference and gets swept by SH, Nova and X, they are still in the tournament.
I agree with that, but they are not likely to sweep the other 5 teams. Last year they beat Villanova, Xavier twice and Creighton twice, which more than offset other Big East losses.
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I agree with that, but they are not likely to sweep the other 5 teams. Last year they beat Villanova, Xavier twice and Creighton twice, which more than offset other Big East losses.
Take care of business against Depaul, Georgetown, St Johns and PC. The hardest of those 8 games has been played and won. That is 8 wins right there. Assume at least one slip-up. Call it 7.
That means win 2 out of 8 remaining games against Seton Hall (2), Butler (2), Creighton (2), X (1) and Nova (1) to get to 9 wins, 3 to get to 10 wins. A win tomorrow helps alot, but it is not a must-win in any way.
Plenty of ways to skin the cat.