Vaccine/Antibody updates

[ATL MU Warrior]

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1428841380126855172?s=21

MSDH: "At least 70% of the recent calls (to poison control) have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

People are dumb

[Hards Alumni]

People are dumb

Wait a minute, I was told to approach these folks with grace and understanding.

[Jockey]

People are dumb

Let’s be more specific. A certain subset of people are dumb. Really dumb.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Wait a minute, I was told to approach these folks with grace and understanding.

Whoever told you that was dumb

[ATL MU Warrior]

Let’s be more specific. A certain subset of people are dumb. Really dumb.

I think a whole lot of people are dumb, but I guess I can agree that within that group, some people are dumber than others.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1428841380126855172?s=21

MSDH: "At least 70% of the recent calls (to poison control) have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

Yes, but they are poisoning themselves for only $3.00/dose, so it is totally a good deal. Or so I have been told.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

[Pakuni]

Well, guys, I found it: The single worst take on vaccinations yet to be published.
Enjoy!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-klee-showing-vaccination-papers-035400738.html

[Pakuni]

The people we should treat with patience, grace and understanding:

Man threatens Springfield Walmart workers, tells them they will be executed for administering vaccines
Andrew Sullender
Springfield News-Leader

Livestreaming on Facebook, a man known online as the "vaccine police" harassed pharmacists at a Walmart in Springfield — saying the workers would be "executed" for administering the COVID-19 vaccine.
Invited from Alabama to last week's Mercy hospital rally, Christopher Key is an entrepreneur who came to prominence after convincing Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis to use his "deer antler spray" to treat his injury.
In recent months, Key has been speaking out against the COVID-19 vaccine. And since the Saturday rally, he has been in Springfield.
Monday evening, Key and his "Missouri crew" entered the Walmart Supercenter west of Springfield on Sunshine Street. Making a beeline to their pharmacy, Key yelled that he was putting the store's workers "on notice."
By the time Key and his group of about a half dozen reached the pharmacy, staff had locked the door, closed the window, and were hiding in the room.
"You are being put on notice!" he shouted outside the door. "And if they give one more vaccine, as of this day after being put on notice, then they can be hung up. And they can be executed."

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/18/man-tells-springfield-walmart-pharmacy-they-executed-vaccinations-christopher-key/8160309002/

[Jockey]

The best part of the article?

They prayed in the parking lot before going in to tell the pharmacist that he was going to be murdered.

They haven’t just corrupted politics and medicine. They are working to destroy religion. Can anyone tell me the difference between American Christians and Taliban Muslims?

[JWags85]

They haven’t just corrupted politics and medicine. They are working to destroy religion. Can anyone tell me the difference between American Christians and Taliban Muslims?

Awesome job trying to make a dumb analogy by comparing a group of 200 million Christians to a militant sect of 50-100K radical Muslims.

[jesmu84]

Anyone think it's f'ed up that we're going to be getting booster shots before other countries even get a 1st shot? And that the only reason we need boosters - Delta variant - is around because other countries can't get access to the vaccine?

I *heart* the pharmaceutical industry (and pols without a backbone)

[forgetful]

Anyone think it's f'ed up that we're going to be getting booster shots before other countries even get a 1st shot? And that the only reason we need boosters - Delta variant - is around because other countries can't get access to the vaccine?

I *heart* the pharmaceutical industry (and pols without a backbone)

I'm really torn on this one for a number of reasons, beyond simply the aspects you list above.

A good friend who is an emergency pediatrician in one of the areas super hard-hit by all this, is very outspoken against getting boosters, both for the morality aspect, but also based on the data guiding the decision to roll out boosters now.

Frankly, there is a lot of data I'd like to see, but haven't regarding the efficacy of the boosters and a long-term plan to continue to prevent adverse outcomes.

[pbiflyer]

@drbobe57
Our meta-analysis of survival for ivermectin had to be retracted after one of the main studies was suspected of medical fraud.  With the revised version, there is no statistically significant survival benefit for ivermectin.  So the original version should not be quoted.


https://twitter.com/DrAndrewHill/status/1427637882773196826?s=19

[Uncle Rico]

@drbobe57
Our meta-analysis of survival for ivermectin had to be retracted after one of the main studies was suspected of medical fraud.  With the revised version, there is no statistically significant survival benefit for ivermectin.  So the original version should not be quoted.


https://twitter.com/DrAndrewHill/status/1427637882773196826?s=19

Have they talked to dentists who follow Qanon?

[Pakuni]

@Sarah_Boxer: Unvaccinated people cost US health system $2.3 billion in hospitalizations in June and July alone, analysis shows. Kaiser Family Foundation notes the # is likely an *understatement.* https://cnn.it/3kkgLoG via @CNN

[Pakuni]

The Pfizer booster shot boosts protection against infection by five to six times, after 10 days.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-finds-covid-19-vaccine-booster-significantly-lowers-infection-risk-2021-08-22/

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Full FDA approval for Pfizer.

[MU82]

Great news: Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine is granted full approval by the FDA.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

This will help businesses, school districts and other groups more easily justify mandates, as one of the lame defenses was, "They shouldn't be able to force us to take an experimental drug."

So now it's no longer experimental. And nobody was "forcing" anybody to do anything -- it was still a choice:

People have a choice to get vaccinated or not; if they choose not to, they are free to find another ____ (fill in the blank: employer, mode of travel, entertainment venue, university, etc).

[jesmu84]

Mandates are coming.

Lawsuits will follow.

[MU82]

Mandates are coming.

Lawsuits will follow.

Maybe lawsuits against governmental bodies mandating vaccines, though would it be any easier to win a suit against a mandate for a fully-approved COVID vaccine than mandates for the measles vaccine?

And I don't see how a private business could be sued successfully for mandating vaccines.

Of course, you said nothing about success, only that lawsuits will follow. And this being America, you're probably right.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Full FDA approval for Pfizer.

I hope that has at least some positive impact on changing the minds of the vaccine hesitant folks. Even a 1% impact is a start.

[Galway Eagle]

Awesome job trying to make a dumb analogy by comparing a group of 200 million Christians to a militant sect of 50-100K radical Muslims.

I'd say he was grouping closer to 90-100million (estimate of evangelical Christians) not the entirety of Christian America

[jsglow]

Maybe lawsuits against governmental bodies mandating vaccines, though would it be any easier to win a suit against a mandate for a fully-approved COVID vaccine than mandates for the measles vaccine?

And I don't see how a private business could be sued successfully for mandating vaccines.

Of course, you said nothing about success, only that lawsuits will follow. And this being America, you're probably right.

Remind me.  Haven't there already been a couple of failed lawsuits filed by some healthcare workers who were about to lose their jobs?

I think I agree with the notion that it'll never be 'mandatory' on a national level but that individual businesses will be able to require it as a condition of employment or attendance/participation.

[MU82]

Remind me.  Haven't there already been a couple of failed lawsuits filed by some healthcare workers who were about to lose their jobs?

I think I agree with the notion that it'll never be 'mandatory' on a national level but that individual businesses will be able to require it as a condition of employment or attendance/participation.

I don't believe I've read about a successful suit, but I'm not a lawyer and I don't track these things.