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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 29, 2024, 08:23:12 PM
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I never thought it would end like this.
But what a great three years this group has provided. Too bad they couldn’t do more in the Big Dance.
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This says it all.
I want to be furious at them, but how could I?
They battled until the very end, but just couldn't put the flippin' ball in the basket, and for some reason Oso has not been himself.
I enjoyed watching these guys more than any team since I arrived on campus in 79, including the Final Four team. Not that they were necessarily the best, but the last two years have been the most enjoyable combination of style and success.
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I’m with you, it sucks in the moment, but they gave effort tonight. I thought they were good defensively tonight. Ball just didn’t go in the basket.
Great group, incredibly fun to cheer on. Glad they gave us a couple great seasons, and Kolek/Oso should be celebrated whenever they come back to Milwaukee.
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Amen. Such a fun team to watch and root for. I still forget they got picked 9th in the Big East last year and earned 2 two seeds.
I wish if they had to lose, it was playing amazing against a better 1 seed like Houston. But that's what makes advancing in the tourney so hard.
Really feel lucky to be an Mu alum and think Shaka will have us set up for some runs in the near future.
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When this team was on, as they were most of the time, it was beautiful basketball. Guess the stinkers looked worse by comparison, but goddammit this team brought me a lot of basketball joy for the last two years. I am both excited and nervous about what next year is going to look like
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Shaka is getting us a round farther every year. Expect the Natty in 2028.
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Mad that MU lost, mad that they played probably their worst game since Butler.
Glad that Shaka is at the helm. MU needs to learn how to play like a favorite, not a scrappy underdog. ..
Ring Out Ahoya!!!!! MU is back!!
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I never thought it would end like this.
But what a great three years this group has provided. Too bad they couldn’t do more in the Big Dance.
Mmm I thought it could end like this. It has the last two years. Game was lost before the tip.
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Brutal loss, but 100% have to say thank you to Tyler, Oso, and Kam for all they’ve been for this program and turnaround.
No doubt those kids are hurting 10X what we feel as fans. Just an u fortunate night to shoot like crqp.
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Mad that MU lost, mad that they played probably their worst game since Butler.
Glad that Shaka is at the helm. MU needs to learn how to play like a favorite, not a scrappy underdog. ..
Ring Out Ahoya!!!!! MU is back!!
Shaka has the right strategy. Can't win it on offense alone. Increase your odds playing disruptive defense also. I was thoroughly amazed we were actually in the game with an offensive performance that was DOA.
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Best thread. Correct thread.
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Three years in, we went to a tourney most fans didn't expect, won double Big East titles & a tourney game, and went to a Sweet 16. Anyone here would've signed up for that on tht day Wojo was fired.
This sucks. This really sucks. But the future is still very bright.
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Three years in, we went to a tourney most fans didn't expect, won double Big East titles & a tourney game, and went to a Sweet 16. Anyone here would've signed up for that on tht day Wojo was fired.
This sucks. This really sucks. But the future is still very bright.
I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years. Stil light years better than Wojo.
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I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years.
It's not always the best or most talented version that breaks through. This feels like a peak, but this roster also had its flaws.
We're going to get there at some point. It might be as a 5 seed that gets hot and rattles off four wins. Who knows. But I'm confident in this staff.
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I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years. Stil light years better than Wojo.
next season is a bit of an unknown, but there is talent returning. Certainly some unknowns in Hamilton, the offseason development of Norman and Lowrey, the impact of the incoming freshmen, but I think MU will be ncaa tourney caliber. And, things can change so quickly these days. Another Elite 8/F4 shot might be here sooner than you think. The program, imo, is in a good place. I don’t foresee big drop offs year-to-year.
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I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years. Stil light years better than Wojo.
Maybe. But when you look at how far we’ve come since Shaka was hired that doesn’t make much sense.
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I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years. Stil light years better than Wojo.
Clemson & Alabama will play for a Final Four tomorrow. NC State will do the same Sunday. Shaka went to the F4 with a team that arguably didn't belong in the field. It just takes the right bounces.
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It's not always the best or most talented version that breaks through. This feels like a peak, but this roster also had its flaws.
We're going to get there at some point. It might be as a 5 seed that gets hot and rattles off four wins. Who knows. But I'm confident in this staff.
Or a 11 seed facing a 2 seed that crapped their pants.
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Sultan
It was a very nice run by this group. I am very disappointed for a lot of reasons and feel worse for the boys. This was a tough loss and feel badly that a great run has come to an end.
I can speak for anyone else, but I am very happy that I have been all in for the past three years.
Now, we will see if my belief of Shaka having more talented teams with his own guys. That said, this was a special group and will be missed by this fan.
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Clemson & Alabama will play for a Final Four tomorrow. NC State will do the same Sunday. Shaka went to the F4 with a team that arguably didn't belong in the field. It just takes the right bounces.
It’s more than bounces, though.
It’s temperament, it’s passion, it’s connectivity.
Shaka saw it first hand with vcu.
Maybe he will be better served with a lower seed for a nice run, we will hopefully see next season.
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It’s more than bounces, though.
It’s temperament, it’s passion, it’s connectivity.
Shaka saw it first hand with vcu.
Maybe he will be better served with a lower seed for a nice run, we will hopefully see next season.
If we shoot bad, just get bad bounces, we win tonight comfortably. NC State only looked passionate and connected because we shat the bed, not because they're the better team. They aren't. They're not even in our zip code. They are ONLY alive because of lucky bounces.
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next season is a bit of an unknown, but there is talent returning. Certainly some unknowns in Hamilton, the offseason development of Norman and Lowrey, the impact of the incoming freshmen, but I think MU will be ncaa tourney caliber. And, things can change so quickly these days. Another Elite 8/F4 shot might be here sooner than you think. The program, imo, is in a good place. I don’t foresee big drop offs year-to-year.
More than a bit unknown. Have to wait a month on who leaves unexpectedly, it happens every year. Does Kam leave, his nba prospects rising while Oso probably falling with recent play. Kolek good as gone. Sean Jones says he has 9 months rehab left, no way he plays next year. His skill is speed, speed and more speed. The fact Norman and Lowery not playing one minute in last two games was not very hopeful. Once departures identified, it’s on Shaka to get players on roster. He is in charge and his responsibility. Have gut feeling, some shakeups are coming but could be wrong. We,lol see how it all shakes out.
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Marquette versus Butler was 5/31 from 3 versus NC State Marquette was 4/31 from
But Marquette won the 2nd Half
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Clemson & Alabama will play for a Final Four tomorrow. NC State will do the same Sunday. Shaka went to the F4 with a team that arguably didn't belong in the field. It just takes the right bounces.
100%
We make a 2 or 3 more three point shots at the right moments and we probably win this game.
Conversely, a few bounces don't go our way and we could easily have lost to St. Johns (last year) or Villanova (this year) in the BET quarter finals.
There's a ton of parity in college basketball.
We'll probably make a deeper run with a less talented team. The margin between winning and losing in single elimination games is incredibly thin!
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Marquette versus Butler was 5/31 from 3 versus NC State Marquette was 4/31 from
But Marquette won the 2nd Half
How many topics are you going to post this in?
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If we shoot bad, just get bad bounces, we win tonight comfortably. NC State only looked passionate and connected because we shat the bed, not because they're the better team. They aren't. They're not even in our zip code. They are ONLY alive because of lucky bounces.
Yea I agree, they are substantially worse than Marquette.
That actually makes this loss even worse.
To their credit, they packed it in and let Marquette shoot the open shot, as the kids would say, and clank.
Most of us knew a crap shooting 3P game was coming, and I’ve said repeatedly you’ve gotta have an answer when it does.
The defense and NCSts inability to be good enough to allow Marquette to save face and move on but…..
Clank.
Saw you mentioned that game planning was fine, and I partly agree.
In a game like this though, less Jop, some more Ben and Zaide/Tre and see if you can find an answer.
You won’t find it if you don’t try.
Where was Tyler in the 2H?
It’s more than just bounces is my main point, can’t just keep shooting 3s when you know you’re off.
Or playing Jop when you know he’s playing the worst game you could ever imagine.
Not to be that guy, but if you’re Zaide and you see that you can’t log a minute to try to save the teams season when the other guy is playing that poorly what are you thinking?
Hopefully “I’ll try harder next year”
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It's not always the best or most talented version that breaks through. This feels like a peak, but this roster also had its flaws.
We're going to get there at some point. It might be as a 5 seed that gets hot and rattles off four wins. Who knows. But I'm confident in this staff.
Yup, and relatively speaking, Shaka is a young coach. We have a very bright future.
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The worst part is, as disappointed and down all us fans are, the players played their hearts out, fought all season, and it all is hitting them and Shaka harder/worse than any of us.
Feel for those guys. They are a tight unit, who gave their all for the University, and they just couldn't hit a shot tonight. Really feel bad for them, and grateful to have been able to follow this team for the past 3 years.
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The worst part is, as disappointed and down all us fans are, the players played their hearts out, fought all season, and it all is hitting them and Shaka harder/worse than any of us.
Feel for those guys. They are a tight unit, who gave their all for the University, and they just couldn't hit a shot tonight. Really feel bad for them, and grateful to have been able to follow this team for the past 3 years.
100%. Good post.
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The worst part is, as disappointed and down all us fans are, the players played their hearts out, fought all season, and it all is hitting them and Shaka harder/worse than any of us.
Feel for those guys. They are a tight unit, who gave their all for the University, and they just couldn't hit a shot tonight. Really feel bad for them, and grateful to have been able to follow this team for the past 3 years.
What about the fans who demand more? I feel pretty bad for them
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To quote Dr. Seuss,
"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."
FairweatherEagle being a Fair Weather Eagle, is out of here till next fall to root for whoever steps out at Fiserv in MU gold, white and blue.
Fun year, no doubt
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How many topics are you going to post this in?
There's a new thread titled shooting he hasnt posted it in.
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The worst part is, as disappointed and down all us fans are, the players played their hearts out, fought all season, and it all is hitting them and Shaka harder/worse than any of us.
Feel for those guys. They are a tight unit, who gave their all for the University, and they just couldn't hit a shot tonight. Really feel bad for them, and grateful to have been able to follow this team for the past 3 years.
Yup, it really sucks for them.
Last time they get to play together too.
A ton of wins, a ton of enjoyable basketball and excitement compared to the alternative, and CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Thanks for reviving MU hoops.
That said, and again not to be that guy, but they are now paid professionals, for good or bad it’s the new system.
We can still feel bad for them, but if they consider it transactional so can the fans.
If Tyler comes back maybe it’s because it’s not all about the money.
Maybe he just wants to do it for Shaka- more so than Marquette id imagine because of his bond with coach.
Either way, for good or bad they are now a little more open to criticism because they are paid professionals, no longer just student athletes.
Regardless, find a way to lighten up in the tournament and play some carefree elite basketball, please
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Yup, it really sucks for them.
Last time they get to play together too.
A ton of wins, a ton of enjoyable basketball and excitement compared to the alternative, and CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Thanks for reviving MU hoops.
That said, and again not to be that guy, but they are now paid professionals, for good or bad it’s the new system.
We can still feel bad for them, but if they consider it transactional so can the fans.
If Tyler comes back maybe it’s because it’s not all about the money.
Maybe he just wants to do it for Shaka- more so than Marquette id imagine because of his bond with coach.
Either way, for good or bad they are now a little more open to criticism because they are paid professionals, no longer just student athletes.
Regardless, find a way to lighten up in the tournament and play some carefree elite basketball, please
Because some guy is going to become a millionaire playing a game doesn’t mean it’s “all about the money.” There’s no reason for Kolek to come back.
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Because some guy is going to become a millionaire playing a game doesn’t mean it’s “all about the money.” There’s no reason for Kolek to come back.
Agreed
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I hope you are right. I think this was our peak for at least 3-4 years. Stil light years better than Wojo.
This!
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Because some guy is going to become a millionaire playing a game doesn’t mean it’s “all about the money.” There’s no reason for Kolek to come back.
Sure there is.
I’ll give you one- to pay homage to the guy that helped make him the millions, Shaka smart.
Doesn’t mean he will, or that Shaka won’t tell him to go, but there are more than “no reasons.”
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Because some guy is going to become a millionaire playing a game doesn’t mean it’s “all about the money.” There’s no reason for Kolek to come back.
He may want to know how Green Eggs and Ham ends
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Clemson & Alabama will play for a Final Four tomorrow. NC State will do the same Sunday. Shaka went to the F4 with a team that arguably didn't belong in the field. It just takes the right bounces.
Ive been aligned with your thoughts overall. Btu the bounces part is really interesting. I started laughing at the game because of how many good defensive plays we had today that just magically seemed to roll into the NC St players hands. 9/10 it's a steal, not a layup. But today they all seemed to bounce the wrong way.
It's sort of comical how much the wheels seemed to fall off.
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Sure there is.
I’ll give you one- to pay homage to the guy that helped make him the millions, Shaka smart.
Doesn’t mean he will, or that Shaka won’t tell him to go, but there are more than “no reasons.”
That’s pretty ridiculous
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Ive been aligned with your thoughts overall. Btu the bounces part is really interesting. I started laughing at the game because of how many good defensive plays we had today that just magically seemed to roll into the NC St players hands. 9/10 it's a steal, not a layup. But today they all seemed to bounce the wrong way.
It's sort of comical how much the wheels seemed to fall off.
Kam's fast break pass to nobody when neither Ben nor Joplin flared to the corner.
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I took the weekend off from Scoop because I just didn't need the negativity, so it's nice to see this thread. Thanks for starting it, Sultan.
I've loved the Shaka era so far, especially these last two seasons. Many of my Marquette friends who had fallen off the bandwagon climbed back on, and it's been so fun having text-chains going with them during games and going to games together. We went to two home games, plus the games at Butler and X, plus the NCAAT in Indy. So much reminiscing, and fun ... and yes, MU won 'em all, too, which makes it even better.
I went to a watching event for Friday's game and it was packed with Marquette alums from the Charlotte area - had to be 40 people. We had a similar event in 2019 and there were 8 of us.
It's so great to be reminded how Marquette basketball can bring so many people together.
None of us knows what next season (and the one after and the one after) will bring, but one thing I've learned to do is trust Shaka until he gives us reasons not to. He has been great at developing talent so far, and I think many of us will be pleasantly surprised at what we see from several players next season.
Sucks sucks sucks the way this season ended, but I still love the direction of the program.
We Are Marquette!
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I too appreciate this thread (compared to what else is out there) and the many more reasoned thoughts. Thank you. As Trojan Warrior stated in his/her thread, good to further reflect as opposed to kneejerk reaction in the heat of the moment.
I think Shaka's first 3 years have been great. I travel the near north and northwest suburbs of Chicago as well as the north and northwest sides of the city. I saw many more houses sporting MU flags in front than I ever remember. I credit Shaka for reinspiring the MU masses. Friday sucked for sure but it has been a great ride so far and I'm excited for the future. Have very much appreciated TKO and Oso's contributions to the exciting brand of basketball that MU now plays. I agree with Goose's season long sentiment that this is the most fun basketball that MU has ever played. Poetry on the court. Also nice to read Oilcan's meandering contributions and great to see Houwarrior chime in with his recollections prior to Dallas. Lots of other good contributions all season on Scoop. Thank you mods.
Will enjoy the rest of the tournament and keep active here with all the anticipated portal activity, recruiting and basketball news.
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This was one of the most fun groups to ever watch play at Marquette….. they played hard, for each other, the team, the University and us fans. They brought 1000s old smiles to our faces, and brought Marquette back in to the national limelight. God bless them all wherever they go or whatever they do. Personally, they have enriched my life. What else can I ask for? Go Marquette! We will be fine!
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Sultan change his name again?
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Clemson & Alabama will play for a Final Four tomorrow. NC State will do the same Sunday. Shaka went to the F4 with a team that arguably didn't belong in the field. It just takes the right bounces.
This…..☝️