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We are going to get worked on Saturday
« on: December 02, 2008, 08:43:42 PM »
I don't want to be doom and gloom but our offense and defense are way too sloppy right now.   There's a reason Crean called plays and you need that kind of structure against UW.   Our guys don't have a high enough basketball IQ and haven't played a motion offense long enough to be efficient against UW's defense.   On D, well somehow we've got worse to the point our guards get toasted and no help d rotation is in sight.  I'm kind of in a bad mood but I still call a rough game on Saturday.   UW 85 MU 77. 

 (and the full court trap isn't going to work, you can tell Buzz is getting ready to try the trap against UW in the CMU game.  If an idiot like me can figure it out so will Bo and they'll just get free points off it, imo)
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 08:51:09 PM »
I agree.  UW will put on a clinic over these MU lads.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 08:59:25 PM »
I don't want to be doom and gloom but our offense and defense are way too sloppy right now.   There's a reason Crean called plays and you need that kind of structure against UW.   Our guys don't have a high enough basketball IQ and haven't played a motion offense long enough to be efficient against UW's defense.   On D, well somehow we've got worse to the point our guards get toasted and no help d rotation is in sight.  I'm kind of in a bad mood but I still call a rough game on Saturday.   UW 85 MU 77. 

 (and the full court trap isn't going to work, you can tell Buzz is getting ready to try the trap against UW in the CMU game.  If an idiot like me can figure it out so will Bo and they'll just get free points off it, imo)

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 09:12:19 PM »
This team is sloppy.  Don't finish well.  Terrible hands.  Bad decisions.  Inability to make the open shot.  Jerel McNeal playing with his head down at both ends of the court.  Forcing it.  Wes falling down with the ball on at least two or three occasions.  I love MU, but this is tough to watch.  I hate UW, but they are going to school MU on Sat.

This is going to be a tough stretch for the squad.  After watching this I am more bummed out than I was at the Sears Centre last Saturday.

What's up with Burke?  And what is the deal with Williams' substitution patterns (or lack there of)?  Does he get a bonus for every substitution made?  WTF?

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 09:32:43 PM »
I have a fond place in my heart for people that start statements "I don't want to be (fill in the blank) but...


you know what they say... everything before "but" is bullsh*t
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 09:36:05 PM »
I think Marquette is playing rope a dope.  Trying to fool everyone that we are horrible and then BAM!
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 09:36:25 PM »
too simplistic.....if I say "I want to be doom and gloom",  that is bullsh.t.    That's a nice saying though Henry.   Catchy but not true.   I wish I could be chipper and sunshine pumping MU everyday.   But we suck right now.    

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2008, 09:46:49 PM »
Prelim numbers

Marquette Efficiency - 110.0
UW Efficiency - 100.5
Pace - 67 possessions

74 - 68 Marquette

75% chance of a Marquette victory

... but I'll want to crunch tonight's numbers and see how they might impact the outcome of the game.
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 10:14:03 PM »
I don't know about Saturday. We were extremely sloppy tonight and I hate the run-and-gun crapola, but I think we play well against UW. They're disciplined but slow and maybe our pressure defense can give them problems. I do fear foul problems, though. Bo's whining means at least a 10-FT edge for Bucky.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2008, 11:25:03 PM »
Besides the lack of an inside presence, I think the reason MU is not playing well is that they are having trouble adjusting to the new defensive style. For three years they were taught to be aggressive defensively with their hands. They often committed a lot of reaching fouls, but were effective at disrupting the other team. Now Buzz is trying to teach them to play defense with their feet. They are not fouling as much, but are not as effective defensively. Bo Ryan teaches his team the same way. The difference is that the Badger seniors have been taught to do that from day one.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2008, 12:25:48 AM »
This post serves to remind me that SOME REALLY STUPID THINGS get said on this board.  Pessimism certainly does run rampant here.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2008, 12:39:43 AM »
Keep in mind we have 4 guys who can take over the game, and they probably have 2 in Landry and Hughes.  I think our guards can hopefully contain Hughes.  Landry will be a problem.  I really hope Lazar either defends Landry and does not get into foul trouble (which may be hard) or we have Wes guard him.  Not sure which would be best since Wes is our most effective player offensively, but Lazar is our only inside thread and rebounder.  Wes rebounds but Lazar plays inside more.  I think we can definitely win, it's just going to take a passionate game from our guys and we need to crowd to be into it!

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2008, 12:58:04 AM »
MU by 16- this site will be funny on sunday  ;)

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2008, 01:12:22 AM »
We will miss Fulce big time on Saturday. He would have been a perfect assignment on Landry. Quick enough to stay with him, long enough to cause problems.

As far as the MU by 16 prediction.... my gut says we'll lose by 12. But there's a part of me that thinks that they might surprise us a bit, ala the home game vs. ND last year.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2008, 01:45:25 AM »
Yes, UW is a good basketball team and it will be a stiff test on Sat. However, this isn't North Carolina rolling into the BC this weekend folks. UW isn't some freakin elite team. They pose their share of matchup problems for us with guys like Landry, Leuer, and Hughes. MU also presents some problems for them with our big 4. I think the game will come down to the benches because the starting 5 for each team are pretty equal with a slight advantage to MU. We need guys like Cubillian and Acker to knock down some shots. And I hope Bohannon doesn't find his stroke fom deep for UW.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2008, 02:01:29 AM »
I am pretty excited for the game and I think MU has a great shot to win.  Wisconsin definitely has their flaws.  I am a bit happier with our offense this year.  My ONLY major concern is our foul situation as of late. 

If we can nail some jumpers and control the tempo, I think we will win convincingly. 
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2008, 02:59:24 AM »
I think Marquette is playing rope a dope.  Trying to fool everyone that we are horrible and then BAM!

BAM! BAM! BAM!  3 straight wins in the NIT.   ;)

i actually hope the first BAM comes on Saturday.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2008, 05:10:52 AM »
If we hit 31 of 38 FTs, we're $$$ on Saturday.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2008, 08:00:12 AM »
If anyone takes 38 FTs on Saturday, it won't be us. That's four games worth of opposition FTs for Wisconsin.

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2008, 08:47:00 AM »
I am pretty excited for the game and I think MU has a great shot to win.  Wisconsin definitely has their flaws.  I am a bit happier with our offense this year.  My ONLY major concern is our foul situation as of late. 

If we can nail some jumpers and control the tempo, I think we will win convincingly. 


Watching Wisconsin play on Monday, I got the impression that they are much more comfortable with a quick tempo than they have been in years past.  That being said, they are not as good as last year's team and a team that is supposedly as good as Marquette should beat them playing at home.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2008, 09:28:26 AM »
Jordan Taylor, a freshman point guard for Madison that played at my high school is getting 15 minutes a game for them and he is absolutely horrible and not ready for Marquette yet.  We need to exploit that kid on the point whenever he is in.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2008, 10:06:47 AM »
We will miss Fulce big time on Saturday.

Fulce might be around depending on how this week of practice goes.

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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2008, 10:11:27 AM »
Fulce might be around depending on how this week of practice goes.
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Re: We are going to get worked on Saturday
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2008, 10:13:44 AM »
Fulce might be around depending on how this week of practice goes.
Wow... that would be outstanding if it happens.

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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2008, 10:26:38 AM »
I was told that Fulce was cleared to play as of last night's game. He was out warming up with O'Tule well before anyone else yesterday.