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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on January 21, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
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1. Broke SHU's will.
2. If you force enough turnovers and get enough steals, rebounding no matta.
3. Kam wants back to back SOTG. I love his shot to the moon and back.
4. We have a new villain. Ndefo.
5. Seton Hall did a nice job on Kolek. MU did a nice job scoring anyway.
6. 4 guards and Oso at the 7 minute mark. OMax kept fouling and Joplin kept taking bad shots.
7. Less full court pressure, more double teams and traps.
8. Less Gold today than an episode of Oak Island. Didn't play until it was almost a 20 point lead.
9. This should help the old defensive ranking.
10. Enjoy the week off. You earned it.
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Marquette broke seton hall
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What will the CBS Studio guys say after all picked SH and then get piss pounded by 20.
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1) I’m drunk.
2) I LOVE this f*cking team.
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Remember when nolongerwarthogs said this team didn’t have any talent
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Impressive game. Took away the pick and roll and we still ran them out of the building. Kolek and OMax didn’t even play well, still ran them out of the building. Defense certainly traveled today. Moving Chase to Richards changed the game.
The improvements of Kam, Kolek, Oso, and Mitchell are all incredible. If Chase and Sean improve like that this offseason, look out.
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Just laid the hammer down. That was fun.
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1) I’m drunk.
2) I LOVE this f*cking team.
There cannot be anymore projos! This team is just so much fun. Haven't felt like this in a decade.
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Marquette broke seton hall
Agreed. It has been awhile since I’ve seen a team just hang it up like that.
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Man, that was fun.
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There cannot be anymore projos! This team is just so much fun. Haven't felt like this in a decade.
Who on this board has said once, Marquette should have kept Wojo over Shaka?
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Remember when nolongerwarthogs said this team didn’t have any talent
Still hoping he gets help for his micropenis. Would probably improve his mood.
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There cannot be anymore projos! This team is just so much fun. Haven't felt like this in a decade.
+1, first time I've watched this many games in a long time
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Remember when nolongerwarthogs said this team didn’t have any talent
The rest of us
#nolongerworriers.
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Marquette is good.
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Started off as Rock Fight
We had boulders to their pebbles
Proud of these guys for going into that packer arena full of Seton Hall knucklehead fans and coming out with an excellent win
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11. Here come the accolades, here come the high rankings. Here comes the national attention, and here comes the hype.
**Don’t stumble at DePaul, please
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Projos still strong defending him.
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Who on this board has said once, Marquette should have kept Wojo over Shaka?
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What I liked is it seemed almost effortless by MU, there was really no stress put on them at all. Now they get a week off, they won’t have to get on a plane again for over two weeks, with a soft part of their schedule coming up. Great teams go out on the road and beat down inferior opponents like MU did today, fun to see.
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Projos still strong defending him.
Where?
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Rebounded well today. Imposed our will. Hall and their fans were scared and expected a loss.
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Some people were worried what would happen if teams took away Kolek driving to his left.
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What will the CBS Studio guys say after all picked SH and then get piss pounded by 20.
Agreed. They were so confident before the game with those picks. What the F have they been watching this year?
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26 turnovers is just crazy. Wonder what the BE record is for a game.
Only bad thing is MU had 17, believe 10 in second half. Omax and Joplin each had 4, so that almost half of them. Joplin also probably had his worst game, was 2 for10, with 1 for 8 from three and the four turnovers. Ross made up for Omax and Joplin today, he was outstanding.
Lappas said it twice the NBA scouts in the house to see players, one of which was Omax. Not a good showing at all by him, but the scouts got to see Oso and Kam Jones. NBA loves shooters and Kam had it going on. They probably made a note to themselves to keep an eye out for that Ross kid in the future.
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So glad marquette won the first of two trap games. Does winning the first trap game by 20 make the next trap game a double trap game?
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I did not see the CBS guys pick SH …
Losers
Also … MU just beat their A$$es
Not close. Workman like beat down.
This team is sooo fun to watch.
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Where?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1597964267352981506/jz6up_w3.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1597964267352981506/jz6up_w3.jpg)
I’ll be in Park City in March. Maybe I’ll stop and see him
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26 turnovers is just crazy. Wonder what the BE record is for a game.
Only bad thing is MU had 17, believe 10 in second half. Omax and Joplin each had 4, so that almost half of them. Joplin also probably had his worst game, was 2 for10, with 1 for 8 from three and the four turnovers. Ross made up for Omax and Joplin today, he was outstanding.
Lappas said it twice the NBA scouts in the house to see players, one of which was Omax. Not a good showing at all by him, but the scouts got to see Oso and Kam Jones. NBA loves shooters and Kam had it going on. They probably made a note to themselves to keep an eye out for that Ross kid in the future.
Ross definitely has the explosiveness to play in the NBA. Can’t wait to see him next year.
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O-Max foul trouble, Joplin ice cold, a ton of turnovers, and a 4:30 minute scoring drought in the 2nd half.
Win on the road by 21 anyway. Damn this team is good.
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SHU had won 4 in a row, came back from a 17 point deficit to beat a good UCONN team at home, and was only a 1.5 point underdog going into the game. Having 2 guys pick Seton Hall isn’t some clueless pick going into the game. We proved them wrong but it’s not some crazy MU hate.
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Ross definitely has the explosiveness to play in the NBA. Can’t wait to see him next year.
I remember Ross had to put on instagram that he was coming to MU too and don’t forget about me. Or something like that after everyone was appropriately excited about Sean’s verbal. Wow, what a recruit. Outstanding future ahead of him.
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I loved the moment after the game where Oso was having a talk with Gold. Everyone sees the playing time going down and down for Gold. You know he is hurting. Everyone knows we are going to need quality minutes from him in March. I thought it showed great leadership!
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Seton Hall made 6 field goals in the second half. Two of those came in the final 14 minutes of the game.
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I loved the moment after the game where Oso was having a talk with Gold. Everyone sees the playing time going down and down for Gold. You know he is hurting. Everyone knows we are going to need quality minutes from him in March. I thought it showed great leadership!
Ben needs more time. I would not expect much from him. He will work hard in the off season and hopefully be a contributor next year..
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Oso is the entire package……
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I loved the moment after the game where Oso was having a talk with Gold. Everyone sees the playing time going down and down for Gold. You know he is hurting. Everyone knows we are going to need quality minutes from him in March. I thought it showed great leadership!
I thought the same thing regarding Oso’s leadership.
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A number of season bests today:
1) Best road win margin
2) Best dunk
3) Best basket after an over-and-back
4) Most turnovers forced
5) Best shot-clock-expiring basket
6) Best Tower recap thread title
What did I miss?
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1) I’m drunk.
2) I LOVE this f*cking team.
Moist January is fun
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Marquette broke seton hall
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A number of season bests today:
1) Best road win margin
2) Best dunk
3) Best basket after an over-and-back
4) Most turnovers forced
5) Best shot-clock-expiring basket
6) Best Tower recap thread title
What did I miss?
Shaka is 15-0 in games of six points or more.
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All time leader in assists watches a player chuck a pass into the backcourt like a 4th grade rec player. Gotta feel for him
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That second half really seemed like we were watching a Wojo team….but they were wearing Seton Hall jerseys. They were clones
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So glad marquette won the first of two trap games. Does winning the first trap game by 20 make the next trap game a double trap game?
Winning trap games is how they get you
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Wojo teams scored like 75/80+ on the regular, they just gave up 90.
There is nothing more refreshing in the style of play from the one era to the next than
1. how many less layups and dunks this coaches squads give up, and
2. how many more layups and dunks this coaches teams make.
Quite the refreshing change.
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@DalyDoseOfHoops on Twitter
-Shaka Smart: “Our guys are in the locker room clowning around, but you know what? That’s Kam Jones. I could tell him to be like me, but I don’t shoot like him. So I’m fine with him being him.” #mubb-
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6C1rszPsU
Shaka post game
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Who on this board has said once, Marquette should have kept Wojo over Shaka?
No one has, there are just some posters that physically cannot make a post without dumping on Wojo.
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I rooted for Wojo to succeed at MU. SFW?
I rooted for Majerus.
I rooted for Dukiet.
I rooted for KO
I rooted for Deane
I rooted for Crean
I rooted for Buzz.
I root for Shaka.
I want MU to succeed in basketball. It is not in me to root against a MU coach just so we can move on to the next one. It is not in me to celebrate those who left at the expense of those who stayed.
I think Shaka is a great fit at MU. I am enjoying the hell out of this season. I enjoyed the hell out of 20-2 and 23-4.
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26 turnovers is just crazy. Wonder what the BE record is for a game.
Only bad thing is MU had 17, believe 10 in second half. Omax and Joplin each had 4, so that almost half of them. Joplin also probably had his worst game, was 2 for10, with 1 for 8 from three and the four turnovers. Ross made up for Omax and Joplin today, he was outstanding.
Generally sloppy game. Both defenses (especially ours) forced plenty of TOs, but lots of them were just horrible passes sailing over teammates’ heads or dribbling into traffic. We played down to their level for a long, ugly stretch of the second half, but we were already up by 100.
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Wojo teams scored like 75/80+ on the regular, they just game up 90.
There is nothing more refreshing in the style of pl BV ay from the one era to the next than
1. how many less layups and dunks this coaches squads give up, and
2. how many more layups and dunks this coaches teams make.
Quite the refreshing change.
Watch it - projos will complain why can’t we just enjoy Shaka without mentioning how crapty Wojo was as a coach.
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Generally sloppy game. Both defenses (especially ours) forced plenty of TOs, but lots of them were just horrible passes sailing over teammates’ heads or dribbling into traffic. We played down to their level for a long, ugly stretch of the second half, but we were already up by 100.
Seton Hall plays a lot of ugly basketball. They’re a terrible offensive team and have to win games with defense and slowing the tempo down. It’s not pleasing to watch but has been what Shaheen Holloway has done as a head coach. His St. Peter’s teams were not good offensively but solid on defense. They’ll be a pain to play as long as he is there because it’ll be ugly
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There cannot be anymore projos! This team is just so much fun. Haven't felt like this in a decade.
I don’t think there are any true projos left, but there are still some who offer muted support, blame others, say things weren’t all that bad, etc. And not everyone is sold on Shaka - Rocky included.
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I thought we took the air out of the ball too early (8 min?). Too many TO’s and fouls after that. If SHU was playing with the energy they showed vs. UConn it would have been close.
Hard to bitch about a walkover though.
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I thought we took the air out of the ball too early (8 min?). Too many TO’s and fouls after that. If SHU was playing with the energy they showed vs. UConn it would have been close.
Hard to bitch about a walkover though.
Hard to keep your foot on the gas when you’re playing a team like seton hall. So bad offensively and that’s not even getting into the live ball turns. Just nothing in the half court. We clowned them today
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Watch it - projos will complain why can’t we just enjoy Shaka without mentioning how crapty Wojo was as a coach.
Personally I think we should cut the Woj guys they're bad for the team.
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Who on this board has said once, Marquette should have kept Wojo over Shaka?
There were plenty on this board that defended Wojo, made excuses for Wojo, and felt we had no options but Wojo. They know who they are.
But one thing we can be sure of Shaka has this team on an upward trajectory.
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There were plenty on this board that defended Wojo, made excuses for Wojo, and felt we had no options but Wojo. They know who they are.
But one thing we can be sure of Shaka has this team on an upward trajectory.
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You can thank Wojo for recruiting 3 starters!
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There were plenty on this board that defended Wojo, made excuses for Wojo, and felt we had no options but Wojo. They know who they are.
But one thing we can be sure of Shaka has this team on an upward trajectory.
You didn’t like the guys Shaka was recruiting. It’s almost as sad as not having your Warriors pennant in your living room instead of your basement.
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A number of season bests today:
1) Best road win margin
2) Best dunk
3) Best basket after an over-and-back
4) Most turnovers forced
5) Best shot-clock-expiring basket
6) Best Tower recap thread title
What did I miss?
Loved that he worked in an Oak Island reference.
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You can thank Wojo for recruiting 3 starters!
make sure you put that in teal… don’t want to get anyone confused.
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I loved the moment after the game where Oso was having a talk with Gold. Everyone sees the playing time going down and down for Gold. You know he is hurting. Everyone knows we are going to need quality minutes from him in March. I thought it showed great leadership!
Amen!!
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make sure you put that in teal… don’t want to get anyone confused.
I mean, it’s true.
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I’ll be in Park City in March. Maybe I’ll stop and see him
Goodness knows he doesn’t work too far into March.
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I mean, it’s true.
I think Wojo could see talent. I also think Shaka is great at coaching talent.
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I think Wojo could see talent. I also think Shaka is great at coaching talent.
Perfect analysis, Wojo would have zero idea how to use Oso. Curious who decided to change the offense, Nevada Smith or Shaka?
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11. Game thread 100% ignored the troll's one pathetic effort to start some sh*t.
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who?
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Perfect analysis, Wojo would have zero idea how to use Oso. Curious who decided to change the offense, Nevada Smith or Shaka?
Shaka's current offense was installed at Texas in 2021. That was his highest ranked offense of his Texas tenure, and also the first year Nevada came in. Pretty sure the offense is his, but I also think it's in the way Shaka lets him run it. The recent comments about making sure the guys can have fun and that scoring is fun definitely seems to come from the top.
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Shaka's current offense was installed at Texas in 2021. That was his highest ranked offense of his Texas tenure, and also the first year Nevada came in. Pretty sure the offense is his, but I also think it's in the way Shaka lets him run it. The recent comments about making sure the guys can have fun and that scoring is fun definitely seems to come from the top.
We owe a lot to Abilene Christian.
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We owe a lot to Abilene Christian.
That's okay...Texas paid back their coach, Joe Golding. It's my favorite coaching carousel story of 2021.
- Joe Golding and ACU beat Texas, Shaka leaves for Marquette.
- Texas hires Chris Beard.
- Chris Beard hires UTEP Coach Rodney Terry.
- UTEP hires Joe Golding from ACU.
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I’m still a bit concerned that we still haven’t shown the ability to win a close game. 👀
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My new favorite past time is going over to other Big East teams’ message boards after games and read them tear their hair out after we wipe the floor with them. It gives me great pleasure.
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Is a replay of this game available anywhere? Not seeing it on the CBSSN app.
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Is a replay of this game available anywhere? Not seeing it on the CBSSN app.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ven9iqPuhFE&ab_channel=DM2.0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ven9iqPuhFE&ab_channel=DM2.0
Thank you!
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I did not see the CBS guys pick SH …
Losers
Also … MU just beat their A$$es
Not close. Workman like beat down.
This team is sooo fun to watch.
SHU beat their own a$$es. They were beyond horrible yesterday. Of course we had something to do with it, but most of their wounds were self-inflicted. That look at Holloway on their last unforced turnover with his hands on his knees and head down was priceless. Personally, they are the team I hate the most in the Big East, and by a wide margin, so I am thrilled with this game.
I agree 100% that this team is sooo much fun to watch.
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SHU beat their own a$$es. They were beyond horrible yesterday. Of course we had something to do with it, but most of their wounds were self-inflicted. That look at Holloway on their last unforced turnover with his hands on his knees and head down was priceless. Personally, they are the team I hate the most in the Big East, and by a wide margin, so I am thrilled with this game.
I agree 100% that this team is sooo much fun to watch.
We could've had more steals but they threw those balls too far out of bounds. ;D
Some of those passes...ouch, it was just like "where are you even going with that?"
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You can thank Wojo for recruiting 3 starters!
I think we would be better without them.
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4. We have a new villain. Ndefo.
Unless we meet in the Big East or NCAA Tournaments, we'll never see him again.
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Shaka's current offense was installed at Texas in 2021. That was his highest ranked offense of his Texas tenure, and also the first year Nevada came in. Pretty sure the offense is his, but I also think it's in the way Shaka lets him run it. The recent comments about making sure the guys can have fun and that scoring is fun definitely seems to come from the top.
Yes, in a Dave & Buster's interview last year Nevada was the main interview and he explained that he is mainly responsible for the offense and Shaka the defense. But obviously he mentioned that they make suggestions to each other. If this trajectory continues this year MU needs to open up the wallet, I think he might get offers.
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He could, although he isn't an "assistant coach" likely because he doesn't want to recruit. I actually wonder if he might get looks by NBA teams.
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I think it’s a good sign that the two teams we’ve played twice, we did better in the second game.
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I think it’s a good sign that the two teams we’ve played twice, we did better in the second game.
That's a really good point.
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I think it’s a good sign that the two teams we’ve played twice, we did better in the second game.
Great point. And another example of the total turnaround we are experiencing. Just some additional gravy poured over the top
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I think it’s a good sign that the two teams we’ve played twice, we did better in the second game.
Well one of those teams (PC) we played at home the second time - the difference between the two games is pretty much what home court is worth. The second (SH) is a team that is clearly inferior.
Obviously this theory is going to get many chances to get tested.
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My new favorite past time is going over to other Big East teams’ message boards after games and read them tear their hair out after we wipe the floor with them. It gives me great pleasure.
My Seton Hall friend here in CT was texting me after the game complaining about all their turnovers and I had to reply that causing turnovers is our hallmark this season.
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SHU beat their own a$$es. They were beyond horrible yesterday. Of course we had something to do with it, but most of their wounds were self-inflicted. That look at Holloway on their last unforced turnover with his hands on his knees and head down was priceless. Personally, they are the team I hate the most in the Big East, and by a wide margin, so I am thrilled with this game.
I agree 100% that this team is sooo much fun to watch.
I would hypothesize that Seton Hall was sped up by our defensive intensity, pace, multiple efforts - that led to errant passes etc. It's a mental grind to be faced with the kind of on-ball defense/multiple effort defense we play.
It was truly a sight to behold though, seeing us completely rip the heart/soul out of a team on their home court that came into the game with momentum and optimism based on recent performance.
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I would hypothesize that Seton Hall was sped up by our defensive intensity, pace, multiple efforts - that led to errant passes etc. It's a mental grind to be faced with the kind of on-ball defense/multiple effort defense we play.
It was truly a sight to behold though, seeing us completely rip the heart/soul out of a team on their home court that came into the game with momentum and optimism based on recent performance.
Yep, that was awesome!
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IMO, they flat out were not going to lose yesterday. They played a very tough stretch and a loss yesterday would have been a bad way to end a good stretch of ball against very good teams. MU is far better than SH and I think they went in there to take care of business and then enjoy a week off. Not comparing this to the Al era, but his teams always took care of business. Win big, win small or win ugly it did/does not matter in a game like yesterday.
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Well one of those teams (PC) we played at home the second time - the difference between the two games is pretty much what home court is worth. The second (SH) is a team that is clearly inferior.
Obviously this theory is going to get many chances to get tested.
It's super small sample size, but our game scores per Torvik were better in the second games. 86 to 93 for Providence, 96 to 99 for SHU. And it doesn't just score better on wins, our 61 vs Chicago State was one of our three worst scores of the season.
Certainly two instances isn't enough to draw real conclusions, but it's better than trending in the other direction.
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So right, Goose. There really was never 1 second yesterday that I thought losing was possible. That hasn't been the case in every game this season, but it's been the case in just about all of these "we're simply much better than that team" games -- and that's not as easy as it sounds.
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And not everyone is sold on Shaka - Rocky included.
I accept that label - and note that "winning" cures what ails my skepticism. And my bar isn't even very high - I stated all along he just needed to win 1 NCAA game in his first 3 years. He's got a good chance to fix that this year!
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I would hypothesize that Seton Hall was sped up by our defensive intensity, pace, multiple efforts - that led to errant passes etc. It's a mental grind to be faced with the kind of on-ball defense/multiple effort defense we play.
Fairly early in the game one of the announcers said something about SH playing at Marquette's pace and my immediate thought was that would be a big mistake for SH. And it was.