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Title: Jamal
Post by: Bad_Reporter on February 12, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
Great to see him finally get minutes.   Never understood why he didnt play at all most of this season?

I’m sure the popular reason folks will say is because of bailey’s defense.   I never thought Cain was a defensive liability, and I think he’s the most athletic player in our team

Really happy for Jamal.  While he wasn’t playing, he was always a huge cheerleader on the bench, and never seemed down.

Hope Wojo starts playing him a lot more.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 12, 2019, 08:26:16 PM
Agree .. I'd play Cain until the buzzer tonight. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 12, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
Him and Bailey both can offer things. Jamal is the better shooter by a lot. Better rebounder.

Bailey better defender and more secure with ball.

Really hope Jamal is someone who can stay with the program tho. He’s got a lot of game
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: tower912 on February 12, 2019, 08:26:58 PM
If Joey keeps struggling, Cain will get more minutes.   
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: CountryRoads on February 12, 2019, 08:27:26 PM
He’s playing well tonight. Like how wojo plays the hot hand.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: cheese ball chaser on February 12, 2019, 08:31:01 PM
Bailey usually takes his minutes but Bailey is not playing well today.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 12, 2019, 08:48:37 PM
Great to see him finally get minutes.   Never understood why he didnt play at all most of this season?

I’m sure the popular reason folks will say is because of bailey’s defense.   I never thought Cain was a defensive liability, and I think he’s the most athletic player in our team

Really happy for Jamal.  While he wasn’t playing, he was always a huge cheerleader on the bench, and never seemed down.

Hope Wojo starts playing him a lot more.


The popular reason is the accurate reason.

But I agree with everything you say.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: skianth16 on February 12, 2019, 08:50:59 PM
Him and Bailey both can offer things. Jamal is the better shooter by a lot. Better rebounder.

Bailey better defender and more secure with ball.

Really hope Jamal is someone who can stay with the program tho. He’s got a lot of game

I like Jamal. But I think his shooting figures got a little inflated last year on some wide open looks late in the year. Similar to the shots Sacar has been knocking down lately. They're both good enough to hit those, but not quite what I'd call good shooters. He's got a role to play somewhere when Joey or Brendan aren't bringing their A game, but I don't think he's going to get put in late in the game when we need shooters any time soon.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 12, 2019, 08:52:30 PM
I like Jamal. But I think his shooting figures got a little inflated last year on some wide open looks late in the year. Similar to the shots Sacar has been knocking down lately. They're both good enough to hit those, but not quite what I'd call good shooters. He's got a role to play somewhere when Joey or Brendan aren't bringing their A game, but I don't think he's going to get put in late in the game when we need shooters any time soon.

Problem is Bailey isn’t hitting those tho, at all.

Jamal isn’t a sniper by any means. But he’s the considerably better all around.
 shooter right now.

Both guys should get minutes tho no doubt
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 12, 2019, 08:55:20 PM
Great to see him finally get minutes.   Never understood why he didnt play at all most of this season?

I’m sure the popular reason folks will say is because of bailey’s defense.   I never thought Cain was a defensive liability, and I think he’s the most athletic player in our team

Really happy for Jamal.  While he wasn’t playing, he was always a huge cheerleader on the bench, and never seemed down.

Hope Wojo starts playing him a lot more.

Jamal can be good but he also was TO city earlier this year.  I’m glad he is getting to play and is playing well tonight.  Good to see. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Norm on February 12, 2019, 09:11:04 PM
Cain shot around 47% from 3 last year - that's not a fluky shooter.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: T-Bone on February 12, 2019, 09:11:13 PM
Cain is one of the most athletic players Marquette has seen. It is a mental game for him.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Class71 on February 12, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
If Jamal can keep his To's down he will play.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Nukem2 on February 12, 2019, 09:21:30 PM
We need both to contribute.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Daniel on February 12, 2019, 09:22:26 PM
Very happy to see Jamal get in and play well. Would love to see more of him
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: wadesworld on February 12, 2019, 09:23:43 PM
Jamal and Joey have the same problem.  They both get bumped off the ball and turn it over as a result.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Norm on February 12, 2019, 09:34:47 PM
Jamal and Joey have the same problem.  They both get bumped off the ball and turn it over as a result.
Joey and Jamal are also the two youngest players on the team. Don't know if that has anything to do with it but might factor in to toughness.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: wadesworld on February 12, 2019, 09:38:13 PM
Joey and Jamal are also the two youngest players on the team. Don't know if that has anything to do with it but might factor in to toughness.

I meant to say they are both just leaner. They simply need to put on some weight and live in the weight room this offseason.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MULaw14 on February 12, 2019, 09:59:58 PM
Cain is one of the most athletic players Marquette has seen. It is a mental game for him.

This.

Really hope he has a great offseason honing his game, getting stronger, etc.

If he can carve out a role with at least decent minutes in the non conference season next year and build up that confidence, who knows what can happen. By no means should we be writing off anyone with that type of athleticism before he becomes an upperclassman. Hoping him all the best.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: warriors1991 on February 12, 2019, 10:04:01 PM
I really enjoy when Jamal is on the court. He was smart with the ball tonight and he is crazy athletic. I thought he had a great freshman season and feel he should be getting more consistent PT.

TO's need to improve, yes, but he should be just as equal as Bailey in PT. In my opinion. Hopefully tonight's solid effort  will be a springboard to getting back in the rotation.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MU82 on February 12, 2019, 10:08:04 PM
He’s playing well tonight. Like how wojo plays the hot hand.

This. The most underrated part of Wojo's coaching is that he has a very, very nice feel for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Herman Cain on February 12, 2019, 10:29:35 PM
Jamal is a real nice kid. Super team guy. Happy to see him getting some quality run tonight. We are going to need his athleticism the further we go in the tournament. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: real chili 83 on February 12, 2019, 11:02:34 PM
Jamal = Secret Weapon
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 12, 2019, 11:23:42 PM
Really happy for Jamal that he got in today and had success!
Lover that he checked in and immediately got that open 3, which he buried! Great stuff!  Way to be ready kiddo!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 13, 2019, 01:00:27 AM
Loved how Jamal played tonight. If he continues to play that way he will take some of his minutes back from Bailey.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: jsglow on February 13, 2019, 06:46:36 AM
It was also great to see Markus and Sammy encourage him during breaks in the action.  Jamal played an excellent game.  Something he can build off of.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on February 13, 2019, 06:51:08 AM
Have always liked Cain, can shoot, super athletic, excellent rebounder. What I like more about him, and used it as a teaching moment for one of my sons, is that he hadn’t seen the floor in several games, gets his first touch, is ready, makes the three. One of the most difficult roles is coming off the bench, especially sparingly, and having to be perfect or you’re out right away. He was pure class last night. Well done, young man.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: jsglow on February 13, 2019, 06:54:10 AM
And it's not about even hitting a couple shots.  Simply put, he was an 'asset' on the floor.  That's darn good enough when you're 10th man.  Again, well done Jamal.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2019, 07:14:30 AM
Joey and Jamal are also the two youngest players on the team.

MaRKuS iS oNlY 19!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 13, 2019, 07:30:58 AM
I'm hoping Woj gives Jamal some run the next couple of games to see if he can do more like he did last night.  He did well  guarding Cain on the defensive end as well as hitting a couple buckets.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: jsglow on February 13, 2019, 07:44:06 AM
I'm hoping Woj gives Jamal some run the next couple of games to see if he can do more like he did last night.  He did well  guarding Cain on the defensive end as well as hitting a couple buckets.

He really did a fine job at both ends of the floor, didn't he Lighthouse?
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 13, 2019, 07:49:49 AM
He really did a fine job at both ends of the floor, didn't he Lighthouse?
I don't think Eli Cain saw the ball while Jamal was on him.  I hope he sees the floor next week.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 13, 2019, 07:52:17 AM
He really did a fine job at both ends of the floor, didn't he Lighthouse?

Came away impressed with his defense. He disrupted a few plays, including a throwaway by DePaul. Could see his confidence growing each play. Pretty amazing statement for our team when he and Matt are the type of depth we can bring off the bench. Given his nice corner 3 and rebounding, I'd love to see him get some run next week.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: jsglow on February 13, 2019, 07:54:53 AM
Came away impressed with his defense. He disrupted a few plays, including a throwaway by DePaul. Could see his confidence growing each play. Pretty amazing statement for our team when he and Matt are the type of depth we can bring off the bench. Given his nice corner 3 and rebounding, I'd love to see him get some run next week.

Yep.  And chick and I were close enough to watch and listen to Markus and Sammy coach him up.  It was really good to see.  Hopefully a springboard for him.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: BM1090 on February 13, 2019, 10:39:14 AM
For those who think Wojo hates Jamal:

"Not playing is not easy," Wojciechowski said. "But what Jamal did is a reflection of how he's practiced. He's had a great attitude.

"I love Jamal. Jamal's going to be a terrific player at Marquette. Because he's had a good attitude, good things happened when he was on the court."

Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Bocephys on February 13, 2019, 11:11:40 AM
For those who think Wojo hates Jamal:

"Not playing is not easy," Wojciechowski said. "But what Jamal did is a reflection of how he's practiced. He's had a great attitude.

"I love Jamal. Jamal's going to be a terrific player at Marquette. Because he's had a good attitude, good things happened when he was on the court."

Mind games
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2019, 11:14:47 AM
I totally trust Wojo on playing time decisions. It is one of his strengths as a coach, and has been for several years.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 13, 2019, 12:24:42 PM
I totally trust Wojo on playing time decisions. It is one of his strengths as a coach, and has been for several years.
An alarm just went off in Ners’s apartment. He’s going to create a new account just to vigorously dispute this.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: 79Warrior on February 13, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Him and Bailey both can offer things. Jamal is the better shooter by a lot. Better rebounder.

Bailey better defender and more secure with ball.

Really hope Jamal is someone who can stay with the program tho. He’s got a lot of game

I like Bailey but I am a bit surprised how poorly he shoots.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 13, 2019, 05:02:19 PM
I totally trust Wojo on playing time decisions. It is one of his strengths as a coach, and has been for several years.

I don’t agree that it has always been a strength.  He has gotten better every year and this year he seems to be pulling all the right strings. His willingness to move away from certain players in certain games has won us a few games this year.   
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: BM1090 on February 13, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
I don’t agree that it has always been a strength.  He has gotten better every year and this year he seems to be pulling all the right strings. His willingness to move away from certain players in certain games has won us a few games this year.   

Coincidentally, it's the first year that we have capable players throughout the roster.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MuMark on February 19, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
https://marquettewire.org/4007847/sports/cain-stays-ready-despite-limited-playing-time/
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: CountryRoads on February 19, 2019, 11:44:16 AM
https://marquettewire.org/4007847/sports/cain-stays-ready-despite-limited-playing-time/

Dang, wojo really getting all the guys to buy into the team concept and their roles within the team.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MuMark on February 19, 2019, 11:59:54 AM
Dang, wojo really getting all the guys to buy into the team concept and their roles within the team.

Culture=mindgames
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: BCHoopster on February 19, 2019, 12:09:12 PM
The best part of the game is watching the bench at times get excited about hitting some 3's, Jamal has never been moping on the bench, but truly happy for his
teammates, winning does that. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 19, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
I firmly believe the overiding factor was turnovers.  I think baikey plays a little better defense but they both play good D.
Last thing u want a kid off the bench to do is come in and give the other team 2-3 live ball turnovers in succession. And Jamal did that in the couple games leading up to his disappearance.  He also played timidly.  To baileys credit no matter what has happened to him this year, miss shots or what not he has never been timid  or shown a lack of confidence.  He has a great “ next play” mentality
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Norm on February 19, 2019, 12:40:22 PM
I firmly believe the overiding factor was turnovers.  I think baikey plays a little better defense but they both play good D.
Last thing u want a kid off the bench to do is come in and give the other team 2-3 live ball turnovers in succession. And Jamal did that in the couple games leading up to his disappearance.  He also played timidly.  To baileys credit no matter what has happened to him this year, miss shots or what not he has never been timid  or shown a lack of confidence.  He has a great “ next play” mentality

In terms of confidence, Bailey has never gotten the minutes that Jamal got last year, so when Jamal's minutes plummeted, the confidence probably went with it. Jamal went from a good amount of playing time last year to practically nothing this year, which will sap anyone's confidence. Hope the DePaul game starts a good stretch of quality reserve minutes for Jamal.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: wadesworld on February 19, 2019, 01:18:50 PM
https://marquettewire.org/4007847/sports/cain-stays-ready-despite-limited-playing-time/

Love it.  I would love if Jamal redshirted next season, assuming everyone we expect to be back is back and healthy.  With the backcourt/wing losing only Chartouney and adding Koby and Greg to the lineup I'm not sure how he's going to see anything more than what he is this season, so a year to work on his game and be in the weight room while getting another year after our studs graduate would do wonders in my opinion.  And it would put him back in the same class as his buddy Greg.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: The Lens on February 19, 2019, 01:27:03 PM
Love it.  I would love if Jamal redshirted next season, assuming everyone we expect to be back is back and healthy.  With the backcourt/wing losing only Chartouney and adding Koby and Greg to the lineup I'm not sure how he's going to see anything more than what he is this season, so a year to work on his game and be in the weight room while getting another year after our studs graduate would do wonders in my opinion.  And it would put him back in the same class as his buddy Greg.

The best thing about Freshmen is they become redshirt Juniors.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Its DJOver on February 19, 2019, 01:33:36 PM
Love it.  I would love if Jamal redshirted next season, assuming everyone we expect to be back is back and healthy.  With the backcourt/wing losing only Chartouney and adding Koby and Greg to the lineup I'm not sure how he's going to see anything more than what he is this season, so a year to work on his game and be in the weight room while getting another year after our studs graduate would do wonders in my opinion.  And it would put him back in the same class as his buddy Greg.

My normal response is that it is an extremely tough sell to convince someone to take a non-medical red-shirt in their third year, but considering his relationship with Greg, and the fact that he can see first hand how much a red-shirt year help both with Sacar, and seeing Greg in practice I think it's a real possibility.  I still think Jamal has the highest ceiling of his class, and taking a year to put some more muscle on his frame, tighten up his handle and work on his shot will raise his floor considerably.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 19, 2019, 01:36:02 PM
Dang, wojo really getting all the guys to buy into the team concept and their roles within the team.

Yes, but as Jamal put it, the "team" is fine - unless their winning ways stop. (which I have no fear of this year)

Quote
As long as the team keeps winning, Cain said he has accepted the reduced role on the court.

“With the rotation that’s going, if they’re winning, I’m fine with it,” Cain said.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Cheeks on February 19, 2019, 01:39:39 PM
https://marquettewire.org/4007847/sports/cain-stays-ready-despite-limited-playing-time/

I love this and am surprised at times that this thinking still is there.  Kudos to Jamal and to the staff.  I have been very cynical of the AAU mentality where so many are about I and not team, but Jamal is taking a mature approach here.  A team approach, so refreshing. He is probably disappointed, but I don’t see it on his face or body language.  Mad respect for a guy to do that and stay ready.  He played well the other day and he may be needed in a game again, even if he doesn’t play he has to help get our guys ready in practice.  Selfless.

Thank you for sharing. Love to see the team concept with him and others. Great great great!!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 19, 2019, 01:45:54 PM
My normal response is that it is an extremely tough sell to convince someone to take a non-medical red-shirt in their third year, but considering his relationship with Greg, and the fact that he can see first hand how much a red-shirt year help both with Sacar, and seeing Greg in practice I think it's a real possibility.  I still think Jamal has the highest ceiling of his class, and taking a year to put some more muscle on his frame, tighten up his handle and work on his shot will raise his floor considerably.


He’s sitting out if he transfers

So sell him on that. Sit out with a winner. Work on some things and then have 2 years of eligibility left with lots of potential minutes open.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 19, 2019, 01:52:00 PM
Love it.  I would love if Jamal redshirted next season, assuming everyone we expect to be back is back and healthy.  With the backcourt/wing losing only Chartouney and adding Koby and Greg to the lineup I'm not sure how he's going to see anything more than what he is this season, so a year to work on his game and be in the weight room while getting another year after our studs graduate would do wonders in my opinion.  And it would put him back in the same class as his buddy Greg.

Exactly what I've been thinking, I'm hoping Sacar's example would give him a tangible success story. Might be tough to pass up an opportunity to get some PT on a title contender though...
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: LoudMouth on February 19, 2019, 01:53:00 PM
I love this and am surprised at times that this thinking still is there.  Kudos to Jamal and to the staff.  I have been very cynical of the AAU mentality where so many are about I and not team, but Jamal is taking a mature approach here.  A team approach, so refreshing. He is probably disappointed, but I don’t see it on his face or body language.  Mad respect for a guy to do that and stay ready.  He played well the other day and he may be needed in a game again, even if he doesn’t play he has to help get our guys ready in practice.  Selfless.

Thank you for sharing. Love to see the team concept with him and others. Great great great!!

Agreed. That and every AAU recruit that says they want to come in right away and start and get majority minutes really grinds my gears. If you are a 5 star that is acceptable but if you are in the middle of the recruiting board you shouldn't be expecting/deserve starting minutes at a high major program
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 19, 2019, 02:02:33 PM
Love it.  I would love if Jamal redshirted next season, assuming everyone we expect to be back is back and healthy.  With the backcourt/wing losing only Chartouney and adding Koby and Greg to the lineup I'm not sure how he's going to see anything more than what he is this season, so a year to work on his game and be in the weight room while getting another year after our studs graduate would do wonders in my opinion.  And it would put him back in the same class as his buddy Greg.

I was hoping Cain would redshirt this season. Still think it would be a good idea next season.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MUMountin on February 19, 2019, 03:56:02 PM
I was hoping Cain would redshirt this season. Still think it would be a good idea next season.

Same here.  Was clear there was going to be a logjam in the middle of the lineup, and thought he could use a little more development.  That said, I'm glad that he's kept his head on straight despite the inconsistent playing time.  I'd be ok with him getting a few more of Joey's minutes down the stretch if he continues to lag a little bit. 

I do think the connection with Greg is a big thing keeping Jamal here.  I also have wondered if he's struggled a bit not being on the floor with Greg at times this year--I remember the two of them feeding off each other last year.  Greg is a little more intense and I think that helped Jamal play with a little more passion and get out his head a bit more.   
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MU82 on February 19, 2019, 06:49:53 PM
I was hoping Cain would redshirt this season. Still think it would be a good idea next season.

I know you were, TAMU, and I was among the many who thought you were crazy to even suggest it.

You nailed it, and I bow to your superior intellect on this issue, sir.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: brewcity77 on February 20, 2019, 07:22:17 AM

He’s sitting out if he transfers

So sell him on that. Sit out with a winner. Work on some things and then have 2 years of eligibility left with lots of potential minutes open.

And if the first year back still doesn't work out, he can grad transfer and play immediately.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: warriorchick on February 20, 2019, 08:11:40 AM
Make of this what you will...


https://twitter.com/jamalcain24/status/1098070325269532673
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: LoudMouth on February 20, 2019, 08:27:19 AM
Make of this what you will...


https://twitter.com/jamalcain24/status/1098070325269532673

The tea leaves that I'm reading are saying that he doesn't even have the thought of a different university. He has been upbeat on the bench every game and I don't think that is because he is putting on a face. He seems genuinely happy to be on this team with these guys. I sure hope his minutes start increasing these last few games. He can be the secret weapon that no one has game planned for come crunch time
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MU82 on February 20, 2019, 08:29:00 AM
Make of this what you will...


https://twitter.com/jamalcain24/status/1098070325269532673


Sounds like Jamal soon will be declared ineligible for being a professional!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: nyg on February 20, 2019, 08:44:01 AM
Lets see if Cain gets some of Bailey's minutes tonight.  Bailey has shown a propensity to play defense and has limited turnovers, yet has been unable to hit the wide open corner threes.  He is 1 for 12 in last five games from the three area, the majority of which have been from the corner.  Cain hit one of those last week and maybe helped his confidence moving forward. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: fjm on February 20, 2019, 10:55:55 AM
Lets see if Cain gets some of Bailey's minutes tonight.  Bailey has shown a propensity to play defense and has limited turnovers, yet has been unable to hit the wide open corner threes.  He is 1 for 12 in last five games from the three area, the majority of which have been from the corner.  Cain hit one of those last week and maybe helped his confidence moving forward.

That’s the thing. Bailey has been outstanding. But his shooting sometimes looks crazy off. If he can find it, it’ll be a game changer. Just like if Chatouney can hit a few 3’s or 2ms a game.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: BM1090 on February 20, 2019, 11:29:29 AM
That’s the thing. Bailey has been outstanding. But his shooting sometimes looks crazy off. If he can find it, it’ll be a game changer. Just like if Chatouney can hit a few 3’s or 2ms a game.

Yep. Chartouny is quietly up to 36% on 3P shots, albeit on a small volume. He also has not had more than 1 turnover in a game since Seton Hall
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: lawdog77 on February 20, 2019, 02:51:33 PM

Sounds like Jamal soon will be declared ineligible for being a professional!
Like I say, always give 110%, unless you are giving blood
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: cheebs09 on February 20, 2019, 03:40:59 PM
Yep. Chartouny is quietly up to 36% on 3P shots, albeit on a small volume. He also has not had more than 1 turnover in a game since Seton Hall

Honestly, I think how far off his misses are skews the perception of his shooting.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Bad_Reporter on February 20, 2019, 09:35:36 PM
Bump...

So much better and athletic then Bailey imo.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: fjm on February 20, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
Better offensively and having a game today. Way happy for him. Would still prefer bailey on D.

But Jamal is showing his worth. Good for he and Wojo putting it together for him!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Bad_Reporter on February 20, 2019, 09:45:12 PM
I love the amount of athleticism Jamal plays with.  He has quite the motor.

If Jamal gets going during this part of the season along with Sam and Joey.  Who knows what MU is capable of.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 20, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
Jamal has really out played joey and bailey last two games.
Bailey fades left or right on almost every shot, increasing the difficulty exponentially
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 20, 2019, 10:19:42 PM
Jamal should get more minutes, full stop. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: tower912 on February 20, 2019, 10:20:58 PM
He is earning them.    For a while, he was a turnover machine.    Right now he is an effort machine who is hitting the occasional 3.   
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 20, 2019, 10:23:51 PM
Nice to see Jamal getting some confidence back on offense. I actually think Bailey was the better defender tonight, did a very nice job on Baldwin. But if Jamal has found his shooting mojo again then he will continue to eat into Bailey, Joey, and Joe's minutes. His rebounding is already so good
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: barfolomew on February 20, 2019, 10:50:13 PM
Brendan, Jamal, and Sacar on the floor together is some really active D.
If the offense can still be productive, I'd like more of that please.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Loose Cannon on February 20, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
He is earning them.    For a while, he was a turnover machine.    Right now he is an effort machine who is hitting the occasional 3.

Yeah, I think Practice is Wojo's Bible.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 20, 2019, 11:01:21 PM
JFC
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: AZMarqfan on February 20, 2019, 11:01:37 PM
I was so glad to see Cain and Morrow provide the 1st half energy today.  I love Bailey's D against another team's top scorer, but Cain once again showed his talent. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: DoctorV on February 20, 2019, 11:04:49 PM
This kid has been so positive on the bench the entire time riding pine and then he comes in and is effective.
Extremely impressive and I hope he gets his chance to shine as an upperclassman
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 20, 2019, 11:14:10 PM
To Baileys credit as well, he absolutely swallowed Balwin with his length.  Fouled him on the one shot but smothered him for good stretches.  Jamal is capable of making us really long as well
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Herman Cain on February 20, 2019, 11:26:43 PM
Always very delighted to see a team oriented player like Jamal have some quality moments on the court. We are going to need him in the tournament. So it is fantastic that his game is rounding into form now.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: DoctorV on February 20, 2019, 11:29:41 PM
To Baileys credit as well, he absolutely swallowed Balwin with his length.  Fouled him on the one shot but smothered him for good stretches.  Jamal is capable of making us really long as well

This is really hard to predict, but I think both Jamal and Bailey could become guys that avg double figures in their careers. Marquette doesn’t look to have a bare cupboard coming up for them to get the volume, but both strike me as guys that will make huge strides when Sam, Markus, and sacar are gone alongside Joey, theo, transfer guard (drawing a blank, hopefully this gives him a hip on shoulder) and new recruits
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MUfan12 on February 20, 2019, 11:43:12 PM
Jamal was great tonight. But what I loved the most was a moment on the bench at the end of the game. Joey had just fouled out and was upset at himself. He sat next to Jamal who immediately put his arm around Joey, and gave him a pep talk.

Kid has been a stellar teammate all season. Glad to see this being rewarded on the floor.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 21, 2019, 12:04:09 AM
Love Cain
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: MU82 on February 21, 2019, 12:06:36 AM
Love Cain

He was Abel!

(Sorry, but somebody had to do it.)
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: LoudMouth on February 21, 2019, 12:32:44 AM
Crowd also seems to really be getting behind Jamal as well. When he came in and hit his shots there was a bit extra “atta boy” with the cheers
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: KfBob on February 21, 2019, 10:36:49 AM
Great to see him finally get minutes.   Never understood why he didnt play at all most of this season?

I’m sure the popular reason folks will say is because of bailey’s defense.   I never thought Cain was a defensive liability, and I think he’s the most athletic player in our team

Really happy for Jamal.  While he wasn’t playing, he was always a huge cheerleader on the bench, and never seemed down.

Hope Wojo starts playing him a lot more.

Not sure what you have been seeing with Bailey's defense but he gave up multiple 3 pointers last night.  He definitely works hard but he is slow footed and has short arms.  I think Jamal's rebounding is the difference.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
Not sure what you have been seeing with Bailey's defense but he gave up multiple 3 pointers last night.  He definitely works hard but he is slow footed and has short arms.  I think Jamal's rebounding is the difference.
I think you are confusing Bailey with Joey. 
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 10:41:16 AM
Yeah, I think Practice is Wojo's Bible.

A couple of years ago, when MU went into their post beating Villanova slump, MU had a week off.    Wojo announced that every starting position was up for grabs and would be determined by effort in practice.    JjJ showed up late for practice that week and got DNP/CD'd the next game.    Yes, effort in practice matters to Wojo.   
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 21, 2019, 10:55:28 AM
Not sure what you have been seeing with Bailey's defense but he gave up multiple 3 pointers last night.  He definitely works hard but he is slow footed and has short arms.  I think Jamal's rebounding is the difference.

Bailey has short arms?? He's used his length/wingspan do be highly disruptive multiple times this season, Georgetown game being the best example
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: jsglow on February 21, 2019, 11:02:32 AM
Jamal was great tonight. But what I loved the most was a moment on the bench at the end of the game. Joey had just fouled out and was upset at himself. He sat next to Jamal who immediately put his arm around Joey, and gave him a pep talk.

Kid has been a stellar teammate all season. Glad to see this being rewarded on the floor.

That was wonderful to see.  Joey had been challenged all night by Butler's quickness.  He was in the game because of his ability to make free throws down the stretch.  He nailed two key ones.  Cain's reminder that the strength of the team is the team, arm around his brother, epitomized our culture.

The production and overall maturity from our underclassmen has been outstanding.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: NickelDimer on February 21, 2019, 11:24:27 AM
Not sure what you have been seeing with Bailey's defense but he gave up multiple 3 pointers last night.  He definitely works hard but he is slow footed and has short arms.  I think Jamal's rebounding is the difference.
The what and the who?!
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: 79Warrior on February 21, 2019, 12:16:02 PM
To Baileys credit as well, he absolutely swallowed Balwin with his length.  Fouled him on the one shot but smothered him for good stretches.  Jamal is capable of making us really long as well

If Bailey can actually make some baskets he is going to be a good one.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 21, 2019, 12:20:22 PM
The what and the who?!

Bailey has short arms.  And referring to his defense.  Have u watched a game this year?

Jamal a better rebounder n shooter.
Bailey a hair better defender n less turnovers. And no hesitation in his game.  Right chiice or not thats the way Wojo went.  Kudos to jamal on answering the bell.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: NickelDimer on February 21, 2019, 12:33:10 PM
Bailey has short arms.  And referring to his defense.  Have u watched a game this year?

Jamal a better rebounder n shooter.
Bailey a hair better defender n less turnovers. And no hesitation in his game.  Right chiice or not thats the way Wojo went.  Kudos to jamal on answering the bell.
And I suppose Bailey is slow footed on defense too hahaha. Stop being a clown
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: NickelDimer on February 21, 2019, 12:34:35 PM
Bailey has short arms?? He's used his length/wingspan do be highly disruptive multiple times this season, Georgetown game being the best example
This
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 21, 2019, 01:52:56 PM
Jamal had another nice game last night. Getting confidence is gonna be huge for us down the stretch. I like that he looks for his own shot a little bit better than BB. Certainly a disrupter on the boards and has been a lot more within himself when being active with his hands on defense.

He doesn't need to set the world on fire. He just needs to do what he has been doing in the past 2 games to help solidify our depth. Wojo is really getting the most out of his bench lately.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 01:54:40 PM
He and Bailey both played 14 last night.    Morrow only played 7 because Theo was en fuego.    But I would take what I saw out of BB and Cain every game going forward.     
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: BM1090 on February 21, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
Bailey is 6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan. He has his shortcomings, but short arms certainly is not one of them.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Nukem2 on February 21, 2019, 04:18:31 PM
He and Bailey both played 14 last night.    Morrow only played 7 because Theo was en fuego.    But I would take what I saw out of BB and Cain every game going forward.   
Yep.  While similar in height, each brings different attributes to the game.  We need both going forward.  They did play well together for a spell during last night’s comeback from being down 37-29 while Sacar and Joey were on the bench.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: wadesworld on February 21, 2019, 04:27:18 PM
Bailey is 6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan. He has his shortcomings, but short arms certainly is not one of them.

He takes chest and shoulder days in the weight room very seriously.  4'10" of that is coming from his chest/shoulder width.  Each arm is only 1 foot long.  T-rex arms.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 21, 2019, 04:31:55 PM
Bailey is 6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan. He has his shortcomings, but short arms certainly is not one of them.

Haha "Bailey has short arms" is one of the funniest comments I've seen here in a while
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 21, 2019, 04:33:19 PM
He and Bailey both played 14 last night.    Morrow only played 7 because Theo was en fuego.    But I would take what I saw out of BB and Cain every game going forward.   

And they had a nice run on the court together, would like to see some more of that situationally, would give both Sacar & Joey more of a rest
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 21, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
Haha "Bailey has short arms" is one of the funniest comments I've seen here in a while


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Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: fjm on February 21, 2019, 04:42:48 PM
Haha. Amazing.

But in other non Jamal news, I would like to see Brendan get that open ball in the corner and maybe drive and take a midrange jumper?

He has been WAAAY off on many of his 3 attempts. Maybe he can take advantage and get a few floaters or mid-rangers.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 21, 2019, 04:48:45 PM
Everything I have heard about Bailey is that he is an absolute sharpshooter in practice. Something changes when the big lights come on, still plays solid D though.

Bailey could be one of those players that comes back next season and sees a massive jump in production that takes us all by surprise.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: NickelDimer on February 21, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
The short arm thing coupled with slow feet was pretty funny
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: KfBob on February 22, 2019, 07:39:36 PM
He takes chest and shoulder days in the weight room very seriously.  4'10" of that is coming from his chest/shoulder width.  Each arm is only 1 foot long.  T-rex arms.

Yes 6-10 wingspan for a 6-8 guys is a bit lower than average.  Kawai Leonard 6-6 height and 7-3 wingspan.  6-10 is slightly below average for a 6-8 mid-major player.  Not one guy in the combine had that short of arms that was 6-8

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES&dir=1
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Herman Cain on February 22, 2019, 07:48:46 PM
Jamal and Brendan have one thing in common. Both are first class kids. Really like who they are as people. That quality finds its way onto the floor. Would love to see both of them on the floor together again. Gives a nice defensive dimension.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 22, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
Everything I have heard about Bailey is that he is an absolute sharpshooter in practice. Something changes when the big lights come on, still plays solid D though.

Bailey could be one of those players that comes back next season and sees a massive jump in production that takes us all by surprise.

Watch his body, he is always fading. Feet rarely land where they left.  Left right forward back. Really bad habit
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 22, 2019, 08:57:47 PM
And I suppose Bailey is slow footed on defense too hahaha. Stop being a clown

Nickel, i was referring with disbelief to the previous posters claim if short arms. 😂
He may have the longest arms on the team.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: wadesworld on February 22, 2019, 08:58:18 PM
Yes 6-10 wingspan for a 6-8 guys is a bit lower than average.  Kawai Leonard 6-6 height and 7-3 wingspan.  6-10 is slightly below average for a 6-8 mid-major player.  Not one guy in the combine had that short of arms that was 6-8

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES&dir=1

You have 6 total posts and 5 out of 6 are ripping Bailey.  The 6th is ripping the entire talent of a top 10 team.

Is Clyde the Glide or Hakeem the Dream among us?
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 23, 2019, 08:12:33 AM
You have 6 total posts and 5 out of 6 are ripping Bailey.  The 6th is ripping the entire talent of a top 10 team.
Greg made a sock puppet to diss Bailey and get his buddy Jamal more court time
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: NickelDimer on February 23, 2019, 09:26:47 AM
Nickel, i was referring with disbelief to the previous posters claim if short arms. 😂
He may have the longest arms on the team.
My bad I misinterpreted.
Title: Re: Jamal
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 23, 2019, 10:26:02 AM
To Baileys credit as well, he absolutely swallowed Balwin with his length.  Fouled him on the one shot but smothered him for good stretches.  Jamal is capable of making us really long as well
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