General Big East Thread 20-21

[fjm]

A lot to be decided yet on rosters etc.

But I think we finish higher than 7th.

[shoothoops]

Fun stst: In the past 16 NCAA Tourneys, Villanova has won the Title twice, and 6 times has lost to the eventual NCAA Champion.

2005 UNC
2006 Florida
2008 Kansas
2009 UNC
2014 UConn
2016 VU National Champions
2018 VU National Champions
2020 No Tourney
2021 Baylor

[Herman Cain]

Kansas offers Bishop

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article250422106.html

[bilsu]

A lot to be decided yet on rosters etc.

But I think we finish higher than 7th.

You must think the Big East is going to be really bad next year.

[Billy Hoyle]

If an alum offered a COVID senior a job that paid said player more than he would make in Europe would that be against NCAA rules?

To keep them in school?

Yes, it would if it was above the going rate in the market for a candidate of similar qualifications.

[MarquetteDano]

Fun stst: In the past 16 NCAA Tourneys, Villanova has won the Title twice, and 6 times has lost to the eventual NCAA Champion.

2005 UNC
2006 Florida
2008 Kansas
2009 UNC
2014 UConn
2016 VU National Champions
2018 VU National Champions
2020 No Tourney
2021 Baylor

Great stat. Time to start picking Nova's region as the champ in my brackets!

[shoothoops]

Gillespie and Samuels both returning for Villanova next season.

[tower912]

Time to start picking Nova in your brackets.

[MU82]

Gillespie and Samuels both returning for Villanova next season.

Good. I'll enjoy watching Marquette beat 'em.

Hafta admit that way more seniors are sticking around for another year than I thought. I guess if I had slim or no NBA prospects, and I liked school enough, and I liked my teammates and coach, and I wanted a degree (or an advanced degree) that was paid for, etc ... why the heck not?

[MU82]

Zegarowski leaves Creighton for NBA (he hopes).

[Scoop Snoop]

I would like to know Scoopers' thoughts on how our BE brethren are shaping up for next season. While the outlooks for Creighton and Villanova are coming into focus, what do you think of Xavier's incoming transfers? Outlooks for Providence  Butler, Seton Hall, Gtown, St. John's?  The predictions for UCONN seem a little too rosy to me with the loss of Boukknight. DePaul has only 3 returning players and a new, first time coach. With Wojo gone, who can they beat? Anybody?

I think its a too early to guess at next years standings, especially in regard to Marquette until our roster is complete, until the teams are firmed up but there may be enough to guess which teams will gain and which will lose ground. 

[Uncle Rico]

I would like to know Scoopers' thoughts on how our BE brethren are shaping up for next season. While the outlooks for Creighton and Villanova are coming into focus, what do you think of Xavier's incoming transfers? Outlooks for Providence  Butler, Seton Hall, Gtown, St. John's?  The predictions for UCONN seem a little too rosy to me with the loss of Boukknight. DePaul has only 3 returning players and a new, first time coach. With Wojo gone, who can they beat? Anybody?

I think its a too early to guess at next years standings, especially in regard to Marquette until our roster is complete, until the teams are firmed up but there may be enough to guess which teams will gain and which will lose ground.

I think you said it best, it’s too early to predict.  We can probably have a better idea once the NBA deadline passes.  Villanova has had a good off-season thus far out of the whole league.  Creighton has had a bad off-season thus far.  St. John’s is in a state of flux but looks worse.

Let’s see how the rest plays out

[StillWarriors]

Seems St. John's, Creighton and DePaul (it's all relative) have taken big hits, while X and Nova have had the most positive developments. MU may join that category but still uncertain.

[burger]

You must think the Big East is going to be really bad next year.

How is it going to be good???

Georgetown lost but has good recruits coming in......Very young.....We know that issue.....

Providence is trying to reload thru the portal but still lack any real shooting.....

Seton Hall has lost a lot but are trying to reload through the portal.....Who knows.....

St. Johns.....Creighton......DePaul are going to be the bottom of the league.....

Xavier very average......

Butler better......but how much.......

We should/could be anywhere from 2 to 5 if Garcia comes back.......Not because we are that great......Because next year is definitely a down year......

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

New Haven Register ran this over the weekend on UConn outlook (so far) for 2021-22 season.

UConn, still awaiting word on Tyler Polley,
mapping out potential transfers, recruits for next year
By David Borges April 10, 2021 Updated: April 10, 2021 8:31 a.m.

https://www.ctinsider.com/uconn/nhregister/article/UConn-still-awaiting-word-on-Tyler-Polley-16090440.php?_ga=2.30016956.2069410398.1618330489-812962984.1594303534

[tower912]

MU's roster is firming up.  Garcia is a wild card, and still one scholarship open.   MU is going to be very young and playing in a new system.   The ceiling is high, but patience is still required.

[Newsdreams]

MU's roster is firming up.  Garcia is a wild card, and still one scholarship open.   MU is going to be very young and playing in a new system.   The ceiling is high, but patience is still required.

Asking for patience here? 

[Scoop Snoop]

How is it going to be good???

Georgetown lost but has good recruits coming in......Very young.....We know that issue.....

Providence is trying to reload thru the portal but still lack any real shooting.....

Seton Hall has lost a lot but are trying to reload through the portal.....Who knows.....

St. Johns.....Creighton......DePaul are going to be the bottom of the league.....

Xavier very average......

Butler better......but how much.......

We should/could be anywhere from 2 to 5 if Garcia comes back.......Not because we are that great......Because next year is definitely a down year......

Yeah, I think so too. With 20+ games in the BE/BET, a weakened conference (overall, not everyone) dilutes whatever success we have. Scoopers have pointed out how teams like Gonzaga (and Houston) have done well despite their conferences but a strong conference is, I think, a much easier path if your team does well.

Let's revisit this soon after things shake out. I suggest 4 tiers: A) 1-3, B) 4-6, C) 7-9 and D) 10-11 when its time for predictions. 

[Billy Hoyle]

another transfer headed to St. John's.   6’11” 250 pound Fordham transfer Joel Soriano. 10.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG for Fordham last season. Huge pickup for St. John’s in an area where they really lacked depth.

They've also added  Noah Gurley, a 6’8 junior forward from Furman, Stef Smith, 6'2 guard from Vermont, and Aaron Wheeler, 6'9 forward from Purdue.

Anderson looking to add two more transfer guards. There are also rumblings Greg Williams will come back.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

They've also added  Noah Gurley, a 6’8 junior forward from Furman

Someone might want to tell Noah that,  because he thinks he's going to Tuscaloosa

[MU82]

Unless something outrageous happens, DePaul is gonna put the exclamation point on "DePaul Sucks!" next season. So that's 11th place.

And Nova will be favored to win the Big East, as they should be.

The rest? Way too early to figure out, at least for me. Dominoes still falling all over the place. I mean, 50 hours ago, Marquette had about a half-dozen fewer players.

I'm a big-time optimist, so I'm hoping our new guys can quickly form a cohesive, effective team and we can have a Shaka-and-Awe (thanks tower!) season!!

[Billy Hoyle]

Someone might want to tell Noah that,  because he thinks he's going to Tuscaloosa

looks like bad info from a STJ article, I guess.

[Herman Cain]

It amazing how a few short months ago, Creighton was locking down the spot of #2 program in The Big East behind Villanova and MU was among those fighting to stay off the bottom.

Now, Creighton has a huge unforced errors and is going to be the one fighting off the bottom. MU with Shaka and new roster is on the rise.

[The Equalizer]

I noticed that UConn has a '22 verbal from Corey Floyd, Jr. 

Does anyone know if Corey Sr. is the same guy that was Bob Dukiet's top recruit that never made it to MU?

[CrowdOf5]

Creighton’s prized recruit who earlier decommitted confirmed it was because of what Coach McD said. Got a feeling the fallout from this will always carry with him. Creighton brass will ultimately have to make a tough decision here (or not).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/04/15/greg-mcdermott-tyty-washington-plantation/