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Author Topic: The NBA  (Read 22058 times)

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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2013, 12:32:06 PM »
College bball actually has defense in it. Teams use teamWORK to score points the vast, VAST majority of the time. The kids still have passion for the game because they WANT to get paid millions to not give a sh1t about the sport so they actually try in college.

Here are a few more for ya.

Both teams are playing at a high level.
Every possession counts.
Everybody's on the same page.
Everyone counted us out before the season started.
Everyone should feel part of the offense.
Finding his man well
Fleet footed
Get up in people's faces.
Get your head in the game
Give them a lot of credit.
Give them all the credit.
Good call
Good call by the official.
Good cut.
Good teams get better down the stretch.
Got beat like a drum
Got swept
Got the stuffing beat out of him
Great blocking at the point of attack.
Great individual effort.
Great no-look pass.
Great read by ________.
Great second effort!

He adds a new dimension to their offense.
He always comes through in the clutch.
He always gives 110 percent.
He always has his team ready to play.
He beat him through the five hole.
He brings a lot to the table.
He bulls his way for extra yardage.
He bumped his way into the field.
He can break the game wide open.
He can bury the three-point shot.
He can carry the team on his shoulders.
He can fill it up.
He can flat out play.
He can make things happen out there.
He can nail the trifecta.
He can overpower the hitters.
He can play at the next level.
He can play on Sundays.
He can really dish the rock.
He can really shoot the three-ball.
He can really sky for those rebounds.
He can spot up for the open J.
He can take over a game.
He can take this team to the Promised Land.
He can take you to school.
He chased a bad pitch.
He couldn't turn the corner.
He crushed it.
He found the twine.
He gets stronger as the game goes on.
He gets the most out of his players.
He gives a lot back to the community.
He gives them good minutes off the bench.
He got a good jump.
He got a step on the defender.
He got hacked.
He got his lap back.
He got mugged
He got out of the draft and got left out to dry.
He had a man wide open downfield.
He had him covered like a blanket.
He had to cut back against the grain.
He has a great feel for the game.
He has a great pair of hands.
He has a killer instinct.
He has a linebacker mentality.
He has a lot of upside potential.
He has a low center of gravity.
He has a new lease on life.
He has a nose for the ball.
He has a passion for the game.
He has a rifle for an arm.
He has a tireless work ethic.
He has all the makings of a great one.
He has all the tools.
He has blazing speed.
He has blinding speed.
He has both speed and quickness.
He has cat-quick reflexes.
He has elevated his game.
He has eyes on the back of his head.
He has great durability.
He has great instincts.
He has great lateral mobility.
He has great speed and strength, but more importantly, he has something great right behind the ribs.
He has great vision.
He has lightning-fast reflexes.
He has speed to burn.
He has the complete package.
He has the heart of a champion.
He has the hot hand.
He has to get up and down in two.
He has to wait for his pitch.
He has unlimited potential.
He hasn't ducked anybody.
He hasn't lost a step.
He heard footsteps.
He hit a bullet.
He hit a laser shot.
He hit a rocket.
He hit a solo-shot back in the third inning.
He hit a towering line drive.
He hit that ball squarely.
He hit that one right on the screws.
He just gave him a little bump to let him know he's there.
He just threw up an air ball.
He knows what it takes to win.
He led him beautifully with that pass.
He left the field under his own power.
He let's the game come to him.
He lit the lamp.
He lost the handle.
He made good contact.
He makes his presence known out there.
He makes it look easy.
He makes the players around him better.
He moves well for a big man.
He must challenge his players.
He must regain his past form.
He nails the buzzer beater!
He needs to bulk-up in the off-season.
He plays bigger than his size.
He plays with a lot of emotion.
He plays with reckless abandon.
He provides them with instant offense.
He put the biscuit in the basket.
He put the lumber on him.
He ran into a brick wall.
He really got ahold of that one.
He really got his bell rung there.
He reminds me of a young John ________.
He reminds me of another guy who wore number 23.
He rumbled down the sideline for 30 yards.
He sent that one into orbit.
He shook off several would-be tacklers.
He shoots a rainbow jumper.
He should get an Academy Award for that acting job.
He stood him up on the blue line.
He wants this fight.
He was all over that pitch.
He was blind-sided.
He'll have his game-face on.
Here's the payoff pitch.
He's a blue-chip prospect.
He's a bruising running back.
He's a complete player.
He's a cutter and a slasher.
He's a finesse player.
He's a force on the inside.
He's a franchise player.
He's a freshman phenom.
He's a future Hall-of-Famer.
He's a steady player.
He's a streaky shooter.
He's a talented young freshman.
He's a tough, hard-nosed player.
He's a warrior.
He's a wily veteran.
He's a winner in the bigger game of life.
He's a work in progress.
He's a youngster who bears watching.
He's all heart.
He's all world.
He's an explosive player.
He's an impact player.
He's an integral part of their offense.
He's an unselfish player.
He's as good a player as there is in this league.
He's automatic.
He's been feeling it.
He's been perfect from the charity stripe.
He's been playing steady between the pipes.
He's been quiet so far.
He's been relegated to the bullpen.
He's been roughed up in his last four outings.
He's been the story of the game.
He's been the subject of trade rumors.
He's been their spark off the bench.
He's been unconscious.
He's being groomed for a future starting job.
He's being shopped around.
He's built low to the ground.
He's capable of going the distance.
He's finally getting his due.
He's finally playing his natural position.
He's getting shelled.
He's going to be happy with that.
He's going to re-write the record books.
He's going to set the world on fire.
He's gonna feel that one on Monday.
He's got 30 homers on the year.
He's got a bad wheel.
He's got a great future ahead of him.
He's got game.
He's got good mechanics.
He's got him in his back pocket
He's got ice-water in his veins.
He's got the batters eating out of his hand.
He's got the skills.
He's got them headed in the right direction.
He's had an up and down season.
He's having a career year.
He's having a monster game.
He's having a whale of a game.
He's in a league of his own.
He's in a slump and he's pressing.
He's legit.
He's listed at 320, but that's before breakfast.
He's making a charge on the back nine.
He's money.
He's not just fast, he's quick.
He's not the finished article
he's on fire at the moment
He's on the dance floor.
He's on the trading block.
He's on top of his game.
He's one of the all-time greats.
He's one of the best in the business.
He's only played sparingly this season.
He's overdue to break one.
He's
He's slow getting up.
He's some kind of player.
He's still pitching a shutout.
He's the best player never to have won a major.
He's the best player you've never heard of.
He's the consumate team player.
He's the glue that holds this team together.
He's the heart and soul of this team.
He's the league's most underrated player.
He's the real deal.
He's the stalwart of their defense.
He's the unsung hero on this team.
He's their elder statesman.
He's their field general.
He's their floor general.
He's their go-to guy when the game's on the line.
He's their playmaker.
He's their role player.
He's their spark plug.
He's their workhorse.
Immediately after a championship football game, the winning coach will get a large container of water or sports drink (Gatorade) dumped over his head. Slow motion replays will then be shown of this event from multiple angles.
In a football game, the only time you'll ever see the special teams coach is if his team suffers a blocked punt or if the opponents run back a kick for a touchdown.
In any other ballpark, that's a homerun.
In games involving Seattle teams, announcers will use some permutation of the movie title "Sleepless in Seattle".
In the nick of time
In the playoffs anything can happen.
Inched out
It ain't over 'til it's over.
It aint over til the fat lady sings
It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.
It all comes down to which team wants to win it more.
It all depends on where they spot the ball.
It doesn't matter who they play in the next round.
It hasn't sunk in yet.
It looks like they're running up the score.
It was a hard-fought contest.
It was a total team effort.
It was a workman-like effort.
It was door-to-door out there.
It wasn't pretty but we'll take it.
It’s gonna be a war out there.
It's a beautiful day for baseball. 
It's going down to the wire.
It's going to be a battle of epic proportions.
It's going to be a battle of the titans.
It's going to be a long plane ride home.
It's in the bag
It's not a sprint, it's a marathon
It's not always about speed.
It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game
It's only a game.
It's only a yard, but it's a long yard.
It's raining threes.
It's the grand-daddy of them all.
It's theirs to lose.
It's tough to win in a hostile environment.
Joe is going to try and settle him down.
Just watching him is worth the price of admission.
Kick some butt (ass)
Kiss that one goodbye -- it's outta here!
Knock it out of the park
Knock the cover off the ball
Knockout blow
Know who it is we want to take the shots.
Last week was his coming-out party.
Late in a night game, viewers will get a close-up of a baby sleeping in the stands.
Let's hope his legal problems are behind him.
Let's relax and just have fun out there.
Let's see if he can orchestrate a comeback.
Lights out.
Look what I found.
Looks like there sending the big guns up for this one
Looks like they're content to sit on the lead.
Looks like we'll have another team fall from the ranks of the unbeaten.
Looks like we've got a player shaken up.
Looks like we've got some extra-curricular activity on the field. (i.e. a fight)
Losing is worse than death. You have to live with a loss.
Lost a step
Make the defense work.
Make your parents proud.
Make your school proud.
Mental toughness (lack of)
Mistakes were made.
Momentum has definitely shifted.
My comments were taken out of context.
My hat's off to them.
Never say die.
Never up, never in.
Nip and tuck
No lead is safe.
No need to panic, there's plenty of time left.
Nobody laid a glove on him.
Nothing but net.
On any given day any team is capable of beating another team.
On fire
One goal will open the floodgates, I fancy.
Our defense didn't show up today.
Our defense was a non-factor.
That car must be running on fumes.
That changed the complexion of the game.
That could be the knock-out punch.
That could turn the tide of the game.
That front line is 1000 pounds of beef.
That hit really cleaned his clock.
That keeps the drive alive.
That kick splits the uprights.
That looked like a blown coverage.
That looked like a missed assignment.
That looked like a simple miscommunication.
That missed extra point could come back to haunt them.
that missed shot could come back to haunt them
That one's going, going - gone!
That pass looked like a wounded duck.
That pass was right on the money.
That pass was very catchable.
That play electrified the crowd.
That really helped his cause.
That really silenced the crowd.
That really took the wind out of their sails.
That score gives them a big cushion.
That score makes it respectable.
That score sealed the victory.
That sealed their fate.
That set the tone of the game.
That shot barely drew iron.
That took the crowd out of the game.
That was a circus catch.
That was a game saving tackle.
That was a goal-scorer's goal.
That was a good piece of hitting.
That was a good piece of officiating.
That was a gutsy play.
That was a missed opportunity.
That was a monster drive.
That was a page right out of the ________'s playbook.
That was a pinpoint pass.
That was a real heads-up play.
That was a shoestring tackle.
That was a smart foul.
That was a textbook play.
That was a ticky-tack call.
That was a timing pattern.
that was an agricultural tackle!
That was an ill-advised pass.
That was just huge.
That was the back breaker.
That was the big play that capped the rally.
That was the game's defining play.
That'll give coach Jimmy Johnson a few more grey hairs.
That's 14 unanswered points.
That's a nail in the coffin.
That's a very makeable putt.
That's going to be a walk-off homer.
That's gotta hurt.
That's his patented jumper.
That's just a part of racing.
That's stuff for the highlight film.
That's the key statistic.
That's the key to the game.
That's too little, too late.
That's what they bring to the table.
The ______ and the ________ skated to a 4-4 tie.
The altitude factor.
The ball had eyes.
The ball just didn't bounce our way.
The ball takes a Denver bounce.
The ball took a bad hop.
The best team won today.
The big guy is really sweeping the glass.
The Blackhawks make a wholesale change.
The bodies are flying.
The Broncos left their game in Denver.
The Broncos must now pin their hopes on John ________.
The camera will always show some fan holding a poster that uses the network's initials to spell-out a phrase about the home team.
The car got up into the marbles.
The car is all tore up.
The car's pushing a bit.
The car's running a little loose.
The car's running a little tight.
The city has rallied around this team.
The clock factor.
The clock is their ally.
The clock is their enemy.
The coach has been under fire.
The coach is on the hot seat.
The coach's head is on the chopping block.
The competitive juices are flowing.
The cream always rises to the top.
The crowd factor
The crowd is going wild.
The crowd is really into it now.
The defense had that play sniffed out.
The defense is showing blitz.
The defense must make a stand.
The defensive line is quick off the ball.
The desire to win clouded our judgement.
The ________ factor
The experience factor.
The fans are getting their money's worth.
The fans are on their feet.
The fatigue factor.
The field is a frozen tundra.
The final score is the only statistic that matters.
The final score was not a true indication.
The free throw shooting has been anemic.
The game has passed him by.
The game is on the line
The game was a lot closer than the final score indicates.
The goalposts are a goalie's best friends.
The guys in the pits won this one for us.
The highest expression of disbelief for an announcer is the ubiquitous "Unbelievable!", but it may soon be replaced by "Are you kiddin' me?!"
The humidity factor.
The important thing is that we won.
The injury factor.
The intangibles will be the key.
The Irish should just play Notre Dame football.
The mental factor.
The motivation factor.
The offense is too predictable.
The officials could call holding on every play.
The officials take a lot of criticism, but they usually get it right.
The officials were right on top of that.
The players have bought into the system.
The prevent defense prevents you from winning.
The psychological factor.
The quarterback is staring at the receiver too long.
The quarterback isn't being asked to win the game, just not to lose it.
The refs should let them play.
The revenge factor.
The road to the Super Bowl goes through Miami.
The roof just caved in.
The rout is on.
The safety didn't get there in time.
The season is a marathon - not a sprint.
The team is really high on him.
The team looks to him for leadership.
The team with the fewest turnovers wins.
The time factor.
The tying run is 90 feet away.
The tying run is at the plate.
The wheels just fell off.
The wind factor.
The X-factor.
Their ace
Their defense has been much maligned.
Their defense is getting shredded.
Their defense is starting to assert itself.
Their defense is tough in the red zone.
Their locker room must look like a MASH unit.
Their magic number is five.
Their offense has been sputtering.
Their play is very tentative.
They have to establish their running game.
They have to find a way to put the puck in the net.
They have to find an answer for Reggie Miller.
They have to generate some offense.
They have to get after it.
They have to get back into their offensive rhythm.
They have to get back on track.
They have to get the big guy involved in the offense.
They have to go out and take care of business.
They have to keep the continuity.
They have to leave everything on the field.
They need to turn up the intensity.
They out-coached us.
They out-hustled us.
They out-muscled us.
They're getting beaten to the puck.
They're getting some good, open looks.
They're going for a three-peat.
They're going for back-to-back championships.
They're going for the jugular.
They're going to have to make some adjustments.
They're going to tee-off on him.
They're having a storybook season.
They're hitting on all cylinders.
They're in a must-win situation.
This one will be coming back.
This one's in the bag.
This place is bedlam.
This place is pandemonium.
This should be a chip shot for him.
This team always seems to find a way to win.
This team has a chance to do something special.
This team has finally gotten off the schneid.
This team has finally learned how to win.
This team has overcome a lot of adversity.
This team has raised the bar.
This team has served notice.
This team has turned the corner.
This team is like a family.
This team is not going to sneak up on anybody.
This team is really starting to gel.
This team is running like a well-oiled machine.
This team is showing flashes of brilliance.
This team is starting to make some noise.
This team is struggling to find its identity.
This team shows a lot of character.
This team shows a lot of heart.
This team shows a lot of poise.
We made our own breaks.
We managed to eke out a win.
We only have to look in the mirror.
We played our hearts out.
You are an embarrassment to your school.
You didn't care enough to win.
You don't want to give up a soft goal here.
You don't win the race on the first lap.
You draft the best available player.
You dream about this as a kid.
You drive for show - putt for dough.
You gotta go home with who brung you to the dance.
You have to respect their athleticism.
You have to respect their quickness.

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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2013, 12:39:11 PM »
You've had that in a Word doc for years and have just been waiting for the perfect opportunity to post it, eh?

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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2013, 12:39:44 PM »
College bball actually has defense in it. Teams use teamWORK to score points the vast, VAST majority of the time. The kids still have passion for the game because they WANT to get paid millions to not give a sh1t about the sport so they actually try in college.

Everything about this post is bad.

This is why people look at college basketball fans as idiots.

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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2013, 12:45:44 PM »
Everything about this post is bad.

This is why people look at college basketball fans as idiots.

That's funny...watching NBA games is why I look at NBA fans as idiots. Guess we're at an impasse.

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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2013, 12:47:42 PM »
My point on the NBA shot clock is that it causes more mid-range jumpers.  It allows less time for plays to develop.  I'm not saying to change it.  I'm not saying it's bad.  What I am saying is that it alters the game and makes it different from college. 

And what I am saying is I disagree with your opinion.  I am saying the better talent allows for games in the NBA to extend beyond 5 feet, not the fact the shot clock is less than 35.  It obviously is less time 24 < 35, but I disagree that plays would develop.  Defense is many times better in the NBA than college.  There are a lot more factors in play and have much more influence than the shot clock.

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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2013, 12:50:46 PM »
That's funny...watching NBA games is why I look at NBA fans as idiots. Guess we're at an impasse.

Not a NBA over NCAA fan, but I can respect and enjoy their game.

Reading that post, it's apparent you cannot.

You know the 'College bball actually has defense in it' would get 125+ dropped on them by a mediocre NBA team?

You know the 'Teams use teamWORK to score points the vast, VAST majority of the time" would be lucky to get over 40 points by that crappy NBA defense? Even though this point makes no sense as I said early the top two scorers on teams only account for around 25% of the teams FGA?

Don't let facts get in your way though, you have too many awful cliches to use.

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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2013, 12:53:13 PM »

The refereeing in the NBA is about 8 million times better than what you see in college basketball.  These are the comments usually made by people who haven't watched the NBA since 1985.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5MhmGyZ7KF0

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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2013, 12:55:23 PM »
That's funny...watching NBA games is why I look at NBA fans as idiots. Guess we're at an impasse.

Here's the difference though... people here aren't knocking college basketball by saying that the NBA game is better. We all clearly enjoy the college game, or we wouldn't be here. If given the choice, I'll watch a college game 9 times out of 10. But the reasons aren't because of the play, it's because of tradition/atmosphere/pageantry/etc.

What you are doing is spewing nonsense about the NBA that simply isn't true. They absolutely play defense, and at a high level. There is more iso play, but there's definitely team offense. A shot that takes a college team 8 passes to get, they get in 2 or 3.  It's just the speed of the game, and superior talent on the floor.

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« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2013, 12:57:35 PM »
Here's the difference though... people here aren't knocking college basketball by saying that the NBA game is better. We all clearly enjoy the college game, or we wouldn't be here. If given the choice, I'll watch a college game 9 times out of 10. But the reasons aren't because of the play, it's because of tradition/atmosphere/pageantry/etc.

What you are doing is spewing nonsense about the NBA that simply isn't true. They absolutely play defense, and at a high level. There is more iso play, but there's definitely team offense. A shot that takes a college team 8 passes to get, they get in 2 or 3.  It's just the speed of the game, and superior talent on the floor.

Like this post.

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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2013, 01:00:21 PM »
And what I am saying is I disagree with your opinion.  I am saying the better talent allows for games in the NBA to extend beyond 5 feet, not the fact the shot clock is less than 35.  It obviously is less time 24 < 35, but I disagree that plays would develop.  Defense is many times better in the NBA than college.  There are a lot more factors in play and have much more influence than the shot clock.
If the shot clock went up to 35, you would see average times of possesion increase IMO.  We'll have to agree to disagree.

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« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2013, 01:01:55 PM »
What would be a better basketball game using this year's players?

Junior, Vander, & Davante
vs.
Jamil, Lockett, & Otule


or
Thomas, D Wilson, & Flood
vs.
Swanson, Ferguson, & Anderson

Nobody in their right mind would say the latter. Those guys just simply aren't as good of basketball players. If you attended Ferguson's high school, was Flood's mother, and Swanson's aunt, you'd probably rather watch the 2nd game, but even then you would admit the 1st was a better product.

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« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2013, 01:04:40 PM »
This is a really terrible comparison.  The Bucks are one of the NBA's worst franchises.  MU is a much more popular team in Milwaukee, so comparing the atmosphere really doesn't work.  This would be like me comparing a Depaul vs Seton hall game at All state Area, to a Bulls vs Heat game at the United Center.  Which atmosphere is better?



First of all, the Bucks are nothing special, but they are not one of the worst franchises. They are a playoff team,

Second, I've seen Bulls vs. Heat games at the United Center, as recently as this season in fact. I'll reiterate what I've already said: they don't compete with any MU game.  I included the Bulls games in my post. Did you even read what I wrote?
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« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2013, 01:07:02 PM »
What would be a better basketball game using this year's players?

Junior, Vander, & Davante
vs.
Jamil, Lockett, & Otule


or
Thomas, D Wilson, & Flood
vs.
Swanson, Ferguson, & Anderson

Nobody in their right mind would say the latter. Those guys just simply aren't as good of basketball players. If you attended Ferguson's high school, was Flood's mother, and Swanson's aunt, you'd probably rather watch the 2nd game, but even then you would admit the 1st was a better product.

Terrible comparison.  It isn't simply the talent of the players that makes the NBA and College different.

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« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2013, 01:10:12 PM »
Terrible comparison.  It isn't simply the talent of the players that makes the NBA and College different.

It's 80% of it.


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Re: The NBA
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2013, 01:11:04 PM »
Don't let facts get in your way though, you have too many awful cliches to use.

Facts? I've watched plenty of NBA games with lazy "defense"...barely jumping for shot block attempts, no press whatsoever (full-, three-quarters- or even half-court). I can't think of a single time that I've seen a trap set in an NBA game. I can't think of a time I've ever seen a team play a single inbound the way Louisville plays them (tenacious, full-court press).

Do those things happen? I'm sure they do. Just so infrequently that they may as well not. And that NBA defense that's so incredible yet somehow allows games to go well over 100 points? So without defense, games would be 230-217? Please. Throwing your hand up 5 feet away from someone taking a shot doesn't constitute as defense.

The NBA has gotten so lazy and so focused on superstars it has forgotten its roots. I try every season to get into the NBA because basketball is my favorite sport without a doubt and every year, I'm bored by the second week of the season because no one on the court seems to care enough about the game to actually play it. And all the rule changes from college designed to get the game higher-scoring and to let players get away with murder are just ridiculous.

I find the NBA a joke and a mockery of basketball.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2013, 01:16:48 PM »
Facts? I've watched plenty of NBA games with lazy "defense"...barely jumping for shot block attempts, no press whatsoever (full-, three-quarters- or even half-court). I can't think of a single time that I've seen a trap set in an NBA game. I can't think of a time I've ever seen a team play a single inbound the way Louisville plays them (tenacious, full-court press).

Do those things happen? I'm sure they do. Just so infrequently that they may as well not. And that NBA defense that's so incredible yet somehow allows games to go well over 100 points? So without defense, games would be 230-217? Please. Throwing your hand up 5 feet away from someone taking a shot doesn't constitute as defense.

The NBA has gotten so lazy and so focused on superstars it has forgotten its roots. I try every season to get into the NBA because basketball is my favorite sport without a doubt and every year, I'm bored by the second week of the season because no one on the court seems to care enough about the game to actually play it. And all the rule changes from college designed to get the game higher-scoring and to let players get away with murder are just ridiculous.

I find the NBA a joke and a mockery of basketball.

That's a shame because your opinions of it are a joke and a mockery of this thread.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2013, 01:18:35 PM »
What would be a better basketball game using this year's players?

Junior, Vander, & Davante
vs.
Jamil, Lockett, & Otule


or
Thomas, D Wilson, & Flood
vs.
Swanson, Ferguson, & Anderson

Nobody in their right mind would say the latter. Those guys just simply aren't as good of basketball players. If you attended Ferguson's high school, was Flood's mother, and Swanson's aunt, you'd probably rather watch the 2nd game, but even then you would admit the 1st was a better product.

Replace Swanson with Steve Jr. and I might disagree.  ;D

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2013, 01:19:25 PM »

Let's try it this way, Lenny.  In college, you can run an offense like the Swing or the Princeton offense that relies on a lot of passing, cuts, etc that typically requires more time. 

Watch tape of the Sacramento Kings with Chris Webber, Vlade, Peja, et al running the Princeton offense. Then watch this year's Georgetown team (a #2 seed!) stumbling and bumbling trying to run it, usually giving up and putting the ball in Otto Porter's hands or throwing up a late three when all else fails. If you're a Hoya fan and say you prefer their iteration, I'll understand, but nobody without an ax to grind could say it's better or more aesthetic basketball.

As regards the "Swing", not counting UW fans you could probably count on one hand those who don't find it boring and borderline un-watchable. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for what you think makes college basketball a "better" version of the game.


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Re: The NBA
« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2013, 01:21:14 PM »
And that NBA defense that's so incredible yet somehow allows games to go well over 100 points?

The average NBA game has 25+ more possessions than a college game. And the players are far better shooters. Of course they'll score more. Higher scoring doesn't equal bad defense.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2013, 01:25:45 PM »
What would be a better basketball game using this year's players?

Junior, Vander, & Davante
vs.
Jamil, Lockett, & Otule


or
Thomas, D Wilson, & Flood
vs.
Swanson, Ferguson, & Anderson

Nobody in their right mind would say the latter. Those guys just simply aren't as good of basketball players. If you attended Ferguson's high school, was Flood's mother, and Swanson's aunt, you'd probably rather watch the 2nd game, but even then you would admit the 1st was a better product.

If Thomas, D.Wilson and Flood played the "Swing" and Swanson, Ferguson and Anderson played the "Princeton Offense" and you gave them 11 extra seconds to shoot....

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2013, 01:26:54 PM »
That's a shame because your opinions of it are a joke and a mockery of this thread.

I guess everything worked out perfectly then.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2013, 01:30:12 PM »
Facts? I've watched plenty of NBA games with lazy "defense"...barely jumping for shot block attempts, no press whatsoever (full-, three-quarters- or even half-court). I can't think of a single time that I've seen a trap set in an NBA game. I can't think of a time I've ever seen a team play a single inbound the way Louisville plays them (tenacious, full-court press).

Pressing and trapping does not work in the NBA. The guards, hell even the front-court players, handle the ball too well. NBA guys would rip it up. Rick Pitino tried this during his Boston tenure and failed miserably.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2013, 01:32:42 PM »
First of all, the Bucks are nothing special, but they are not one of the worst franchises. They are a playoff team,

Second, I've seen Bulls vs. Heat games at the United Center, as recently as this season in fact. I'll reiterate what I've already said: they don't compete with any MU game.  I included the Bulls games in my post. Did you even read what I wrote?
Yes I read very clearly what you wrote.

First of all the Bucks are by far the worst team in the playoffs, and if they were in the West they would not have even come close to making it.  They will get swept by the Heat.  

I'm saying that your comparason betweet the atmosphere at a MU game and a Bucks game is not a fair comparason.  The Bucks are not a very popular team in Milwukee, the average MU game draws a much bigger and more passionate crowd.  I would never compare the atmosphere at a Bulls game in Chicago vs a Depaul game in Chicago.  The Bulls games have a much better atmoshere because they are the much more popular team.  There are many NBA teams who play in incredible atmospheres, OKC, Chicago, LA, New York, etc... there are also some that don't. The same goes for college hoops.  

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2013, 01:34:29 PM »
Facts? I've watched plenty of NBA games with lazy "defense"...barely jumping for shot block attempts, no press whatsoever (full-, three-quarters- or even half-court). I can't think of a single time that I've seen a trap set in an NBA game. I can't think of a time I've ever seen a team play a single inbound the way Louisville plays them (tenacious, full-court press).

Do those things happen? I'm sure they do. Just so infrequently that they may as well not. And that NBA defense that's so incredible yet somehow allows games to go well over 100 points? So without defense, games would be 230-217? Please. Throwing your hand up 5 feet away from someone taking a shot doesn't constitute as defense.

The NBA has gotten so lazy and so focused on superstars it has forgotten its roots. I try every season to get into the NBA because basketball is my favorite sport without a doubt and every year, I'm bored by the second week of the season because no one on the court seems to care enough about the game to actually play it. And all the rule changes from college designed to get the game higher-scoring and to let players get away with murder are just ridiculous.

I find the NBA a joke and a mockery of basketball.

I have to be honest, I used feel this way too.

BUT, you have to realize that the guys are sooooo good that a lot of the stuff just looks "different" when compared to college ball.

For the most part, they are executing at a VERY high level, and it takes some time to realize that. It did for me.  

I love college ball WAAAAAY more than NBA... but the teams in the NBA are incredible, and I'm not just talking about dunks. I'm talking about the minutia where they run pick and role in certain spots on the floor just to set-up a certain match-up or expose a certain player. It sounds easy, but it's HARD to do it well.

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Re: The NBA
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2013, 01:38:56 PM »
I guess everything worked out perfectly then.

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