Mitchell/Ross/Defense/Offense

[Small Orange Soda]

Agreed.  Mitchell is not comfortable on offense at all.  Teams are daring him to even touch the ball.

The less I see from Stevie on the offensive end, the more I wonder if he ends up the odd man out at the end of the year. He's just a non-factor.

[GoldenEagles03]

The less I see from Stevie on the offensive end, the more I wonder if he ends up the odd man out at the end of the year. He's just a non-factor.

Less of a factor than Ellis?

[1318WWells]

Ross made a big mistake getting a charged called on him instead of passing off the ball on a two man fast break. I assume this is why he was benched. If so, I think Shaka did the right thing. I love Ross, but I all for Shaka teaching him a lesson.

It was a 2 on 1 break. I was disappointed that Sean Jones broke to the right corner to spot up for three instead of the right block. If he’s tighter the defender would have been caught in between and either Ross dunks or Sean gets a layup. With Sean in the corner the defender locked in on Ross and drew the charge.

[Small Orange Soda]

Less of a factor than Ellis?

The injured guy who's planning on redshirting?

[GoldenEagles03]

The injured guy who's planning on redshirting?

Yes.

Hard to say Mitchell is less of a factor than a guy who played less than Mitchell last year when healthy and hasn't played a single second in his year 2.

Mitchell is averaging 22 minutes a game and is 6th on the team in scoring, 9 starts in 9 games, and arguably the best on ball defender the team has.

[panda]

Less of a factor than Ellis?

Who’s less important, Mitchell, Ellis or iggy the eagle ?

[Small Orange Soda]

Yes.

Hard to say Mitchell is less of a factor than a guy who played less than Mitchell last year when healthy and hasn't played a single second in his year 2.

Mitchell is averaging 22 minutes a game and is 6th on the team in scoring, 9 starts in 9 games, and arguably the best on ball defender the team has.

...he hasn't played because he's injured. He's likely going to have three years remaining after this year. Is the plan for him to leave? Possibly. But if Ross and Sean continue to improve, they'll pass Stevie on the depth chart unless he figures out how to score. And with only two years left, Stevie may not want to just be a defensive specialist.

[GoldenEagles03]

...he hasn't played because he's injured. He's likely going to have three years remaining after this year. Is the plan for him to leave? Possibly. But if Ross and Sean continue to improve, they'll pass Stevie on the depth chart unless he figures out how to score. And with only two years left, Stevie may not want to just be a defensive specialist.

Both Ross and Jones (Sean) are also defense 1st guards.

The offense is nearly top 30 in America with Stevie having started all 9.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Jesus, anyone who thinks Mitchell is a "non-factor" does not know ball. On the offensive end, sure but the kid is our second best defender.

[GoldenEagles03]

Jesus, anyone who thinks Mitchell is a "non-factor" does not know ball. On the offensive end, sure but the kid is our second best defender.

And also a starter for a borderline top 30 offense in the country.

[Small Orange Soda]

Both Ross and Jones (Sean) are also defense 1st guards.

The offense is nearly top 30 in America with Stevie having started all 9.

Defenses have begun (correctly) daring Stevie to shoot. If he's not able to make them regret it moving forward then that's going to be a problem.

And TAMU, I should've said nonfactor offensively. Stevie's a very good defender.

[GoldenEagles03]

Defenses have begun (correctly) daring Stevie to shoot. If he's not able to make them regret it moving forward then that's going to be a problem.

And TAMU, I should've said nonfactor offensively. Stevie's a very good defender.

Steve is shooting more efficiently from 3 and the FT line in comparison to S. Jones.

[Small Orange Soda]

Steve is shooting more efficiently from 3 and the FT line in comparison to S. Jones.

And from what I've seen, I have more faith in the freshman improving than the sophomore. As S. Jones improves, his ability to get to the hole will get him PT so long as he's still getting it done on D. At this point, I hope Stevie improves offensively. I think he's capable. But either way, he's going to need to. He can't be a nonfactor on offense forever.

[MuggsyB]

I think Mitchell is capable of getting out of his funk/slump.  Ar the same time would you rather have an offensive player in the game to close the show or a defensive player on the perimeter?  The way I see it now is that TK, KJ. OMP, and OI will be on the floor. The decision once we ger deeper into the season will be Mitchell, Ross, or Joplin, how their mins are distributed, and who plays in the clutch. 

[mileskishnish72]

Stevie scored OK in HS. Could be a mental block like Oso has on FT's lately. I bet he works it through.
Sean is more of a threat to take his spot than Jop because Sean is a better defender.

[Newsdreams]

It was a 2 on 1 break. I was disappointed that Sean Jones broke to the right corner to spot up for three instead of the right block. If he’s tighter the defender would have been caught in between and either Ross dunks or Sean gets a layup. With Sean in the corner the defender locked in on Ross and drew the charge.

Wrong, Ross messed that up.

[1318WWells]

Wrong, Ross messed that up.

So he should’ve kicked to the corner 3?

[Newsdreams]

So he should’ve kicked to the corner 3?

Have you ever been a guard? There was no one to guard him he could have had a
layup, you don't stay close on a fast break, helps the D. Sean could drive with his quickness or taken the open shot up to him, but the Ross out of control penetration was an offensive foul you could see a mile away.

[brewcity77]

Best way to close under 5 minutes is to make your wide-open threes and not have your opponent hit 35-foot step-back off-balance threes. Either that, or have Jop's 75-footer hit the backboard 6 inches lower.

[1318WWells]

Have you ever been a guard? There was no one to guard him he could have had a
layup, you don't stay close on a fast break, helps the D. Sean could drive with his quickness or taken the open shot up to him, but the Ross out of control penetration was an offensive foul you could see a mile away.

Yes, I’ve been a guard. I understand spacing.

Are you saying that the best spacing on a 2 on 1 break if ball attacks the basket from the left is for the other offensive player to run to the right corner for a three?

Chase got the defensive rebound at the free throw line, cruised past half court with the ball and attacked the left block. Sean was moving with him and it was clearly a 2 on 1 break when they crossed half court. If Sean fills the fast break lane just to the right of the paint, then Klesmit would’ve been on an island and would’ve had to hedge his defense between the two players. Makes Ross’s angle better to either finish himself or dump to Sean for an easy layup if Klesmit over commits. 

Instead, Sean ran to the corner and the 2 on 1 break became a 1 on 1. Klesmit played good 1 on 1 defense and drew a charge.

Go back and watch. 9:47 mark.

[Newsdreams]

Yes, I’ve been a guard. I understand spacing.

Are you saying that the best spacing on a 2 on 1 break if ball attacks the basket from the left is for the other offensive player to run to the right corner for a three?

Chase got the defensive rebound at the free throw line, cruised past half court with the ball and attacked the left block. Sean was moving with him and it was clearly a 2 on 1 break when they crossed half court. If Sean fills the fast break lane just to the right of the paint, then Klesmit would’ve been on an island and would’ve had to hedge his defense between the two players. Makes Ross’s angle better to either finish himself or dump to Sean for an easy layup if Klesmit over commits. 

Instead, Sean ran to the corner and the 2 on 1 break became a 1 on 1. Klesmit played good 1 on 1 defense and drew a charge.

Go back and watch. 9:47 mark.

The open man curls from the wing, the lone D has to make a choice, normally tries to take a charge, his best bet. If Ross stops and passes the ball to Sean D ends up out of position. Ross went on an uncontrolled penetration, wrong play. I'll leave at that. Believe whatever you want to believe but it was a terrible play by Ross.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The open man curls from the wing, the lone D has to make a choice, normally tries to take a charge, his best bet. If Ross stops and passes the ball to Sean D ends up out of position. Ross went on an uncontrolled penetration, wrong play. I'll leave at that. Believe whatever you want to believe but it was a terrible play by Ross.

Right. Ross didn't face a binary choice in this circumstance.  There are things he could have done no matter where Sean went.

[1318WWells]

The open man curls from the wing, the lone D has to make a choice, normally tries to take a charge, his best bet. If Ross stops and passes the ball to Sean D ends up out of position. Ross went on an uncontrolled penetration, wrong play. I'll leave at that. Believe whatever you want to believe but it was a terrible play by Ross.

Open man curls from the wing to where?

Sean went from just right of the half court circle and curled to corner three point line.

I believe that is not the best way to run a 2 on 1 break.

[Newsdreams]

Open man curls from the wing to where?

Sean went from just right of the half court circle and curled to corner three point line.

I believe that is not the best way to run a 2 on 1 break.

Towards the basket, Ross passes when Sean is mid way and now the D has to make a choice cover Sean or Ross. One of the 2 will be open. That is the way to run a 2 on 1 press. Sean didn't just stop at 3 pt line. You curl, when I played there was no 3 pt line and we were shown to come from side or wing. Make lone D guy make a decision. But seriously not debating this any longer.

[1318WWells]

Towards the basket, Ross passes when Sean is mid way and now the D has to make a choice cover Sean or Ross. One of the 2 will be open. That is the way to run a 2 on 1 press. Sean didn't just stop at 3 pt line. You curl, when I played there was no 3 pt line and we were shown to come from side or wing. Make lone D guy make a decision. But seriously not debating this any longer.

Exactly, towards the basket. You either end up getting a pass or cleaning up a rebound.

No, Sean didn’t just stop when at the 3pt line. He ran away from the ball and the basket. He ran to the corner. Making a bad angle for a potential pass from Ross and further away.

Made Klesmits decision easier on D. He zeroed in on Ross, begging him to throw the ball to the corner while he got in position for a charge.

Sure Ross had other choices. Coulda pulled up from 3, pulled up mid range or just pulled the ball back out. All bad results in my mind on a 2 on 1 break.

I’m saying if Sean runs to the right spot, towards the basket in your words, then MU gets 2 pts from either Chase or Sean on that break. He turned a 2 on 1 break into 1 on 1 making Ross’ decision harder than it needed to be.