Oso planning to go pro
From the MU Record book, only 8 sophomores in MU history have averaged 16+ ppg:1. Mike Moran 20.4 ppg2. Russ Wittberger 19.4 ppg 3. George Thompson 18.0 ppg4. Jim Chones 17.9 ppg5. Dwyane Wade 17.86. Tom Flynn 17.3 7. Dean Meminger 16.4 8. Bo Ellis 16.3k16 points/game would put Gardner ahead of Maurice Lucas (15.4 as a soph.).
From the MU Record book, only 8 sophomores in MU history have averaged 16+ ppg:1. Mike Moran 20.4 ppg2. Russ Wittberger 19.4 ppg 3. George Thompson 18.0 ppg4. Jim Chones 17.9 ppg5. Dwyane Wade 17.86. Tom Flynn 17.3 7. Dean Meminger 16.4 8. Bo Ellis 16.3Keep in mind that many of the guys listed did not play on the varsity team until sophmore year as they were forced to play on the freshman team 16 points/game would put Gardner ahead of Maurice Lucas (15.4 as a soph.).
We have a 6'3" kid who is 12 years old on my son's Little League Majors All-Star team (Williamsport division)...
His vertical will absolutely improve with lost weight, provided his leg strength remains the same. It's simple physics. I don't think his vertical will improve much on lost weight alone, but Todd will have him doing jumping exercises and probably olympic lifts. I am sure his vertical will improve by much more than 3" by the time he is a senior....in fact, I bet he improves 3+ for this season. It doesn't sound like much, but 3" will be very noticeable and help his game a ton. One example of shedding weight with instant athletic upgrade is Alexander Johnson of FSU. He was a good athlete that went to an elite 40" vertical after dropping 20 pounds fast. The lone good thing about having a poor vertical is that there is a lot of improvement opportunity. With the training Davante is going to get, I see no reason why he can't eventually get his vertical to at least 20, which would be a huge upgrade to his game. He has shown the desire and dedication it takes to change his body, so I would guess he is working hard at his athleticism as well. Plus, when getting more athletic he will be able to do more things......have much more fun.......it will give him more desire to continue. As I have said before, I think he will make the greatest athletic improvement of any player ever at MU. He is well on his way.....
Is there anyone on the planet other than Chicos who would refer to his kid's little league team as the Little League Majors All-Star team (Williamsport division)...? Hilarious.
Another believer. Much more Faith in Davante than Chicos little league.
???That's what we refer to it out here Lenny and I know they do in some other parts of the country as well. There are four Little League national championship tournaments...Junior League, Big League, Senior League and Little League (the one most have heard of and televised on ESPN/ABC). Within Little League, there are the 10 year olds, the 11 year olds and Majors (the 12 year olds). To cut down on the confusion within Little League, they call it the Williamsport Division because only the 12 year olds can get to Williamsport and play for the World Championship while the 11U teams can only advance to Sectionals and the 10U can only advance to Districts.So yes, not only is there a person other than me, it's how we describe it out here and other parts of the country. Would you like a photo of the Little League district t-shirts as one of many examples where it says Williamsport division on it? Good God you can be an obtuse individual...I'm sorry that in Chicago they didn't refer to it in that manner, but there is a whole big country outside of the greater Chicago area and there sure as hell is better baseball played (at ALL levels) outside of that area.Send me your address and I'll send you a shirt...I assume XXXL?Kingsbridge Little League reference to WILLIAMSPORT DIVISION...how dare they and all the way in New York...have they no shame...do they not know that Lenny has spoken http://www.kingsbridgelittleleague.org/page/why-kbllCarrollton Little League in Carrollton, Texas....what...they refer to is as the WILLIAMSPORT DIVISION...WHAT??http://www.leaguelineup.com/information.asp?cmenuid=2&url=carrolltonllb&sid=113923909Or in the PressAndover Massachusetts Little League WILLIAMSPORT DIVISION...no wayhttp://www.eagletribune.com/sports/x1048571348/Little-League-North-Andover-wins-battle-of-Andovers/printVentura, California WILLIAMSPORT DIVISION....all the way here in California...oh yeah, already covered thathttp://m.vcstar.com/news/2009/jul/30/no-headline---sc6fcyouthresults30yth-fc/Commack, NY WILLIAMSPORT DIVISIONhttp://commack.patch.com/articles/commack-south-beats-brentwood-remains-undefeatedEtc, etc
Blair has very long arms and can also get off his feet quicker. Besides that, I am guessing Blair is taller than Davante, who is not 6'9".
Blair is actually listed at 6'7 or 6'8 depending on the website. Not that I'm saying Gardner will be like him at the next level.
And MU lists Gardner at 6'8", which is is height in shoes.
??? Would you like a photo of the Little League district t-shirts as one of many examples where it says Williamsport division on it? Good God you can be an obtuse individual...
Gardner may be closer to 6'9". It would be good to see all the players remeasured. Kids grow at their ages. We may have a taller team than we think!
6'8" is what MU lists in 2011-2012 prospectus released by MU this week. I have no idea whether they have remeasured Gardner. Prospectus list Williams as 6'7" and Williams stated last year that all-though Oregon listed him as 6'7" he was closer to 6'5".
My point was simply this: your son (who I'm sure is a great kid) and his little league team had nothing to do with the topic. Instead of mentioning them tangentially to make a point, you had to give us the whole 9 yards (Major, All Star, Williamsport Division, etc.). No big deal. It's just you being you, name dropping without even realizing it. Thought it was funny.
Fair enough...I think it did, however. I was referencing how even 12 year old kids can be 6'3"...size doesn't matter (in this case) whether someone is a kid or not. I was using a real world example only because every game our boys play in the series the other team starts belly aching about "that's no kid" in reference to our two 6 footers...it reminded me of what mviale was saying. I could have used any number of other examples, but since that was freshest in my mind as we are in the middle of the All-Stars right now, it's what came to my mind. I still consider Gardner a kid...hell, I consider most people in their 20's kids, even late 20's.Almost eveyone not residing in the "Old Folk's Home" is a kid to me.
I can confirm the earlier report about Davante looking more like Burke's size now. Great job Davante!