Kolek planning to go pro
The last few years on the court has resembled SLU sadly enough.
Really?SLU 2014-15: 11-21 (3-15 in A10)SLU 2015-16: 11-21 (5-13 in A10) - fired coachSLU 2016-17: 8-16 (3-8 in A10)MU 2014-15: 13-19 (4-14 in BE)MU 2015-16: 20-13 (8-10 in BE)MU 2016-17: 15-9 (6-6 in BE)
We became SLU.SLU became DePaul.
This is the essence of a message board.
they bus from SLU to St Bonaventure? Even Depaul doesn't do that
And message boards... are the essence of beauty
And you find this acceptable?? This is flat out NOT acceptable for a program that has the tradition MU has. The point is, SLU is irrelevant in the National Basketball landscape, and sadly, MU has become irrelevant as well. At least in comparison to where they were 4 years ago.
4everI would take the Rick SLU program right now. How about you?
Please point out where he said it was acceptable.And nice to have you back, guru. We missed you when the team you purport to love was winning.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
I'm around when they lose, which is more often then they should be for my tastes, especially at home. It's tiring.
I never said he implied he found it acceptable..I was asking him if he did, since he seemed to want to make the comparison that MU has not become SLU by using the last 3 years as criteria..simply put, MU and SLU BB should be on two different planets, and quite frankly right now, they aren't..both are basically irrelevant.
It is funny, but most on here were happy we lost McKay and Burton and I think both were big losses for the program. We need a couple of Burton's on the squad badly. I am very happy to see hi performing well at ISU and I am not surprised one bit.
I bet it's tiring for you to be such a sad individual who cannot celebrate beating Villanova or Creighton but has no problem piling on after tough losses.Happy, well-adjusted people stop and smell the roses. I worry about folks who can only stop and smell the horsepoop.
I would however take Rick (SLU version) coaching at our program in a heartbeat. Like Rick did, Wojo will have to go through some growing pains before he becomes a finished product.
My biggest fear is that Wojo takes awhile to become a finished product, has 2-3 good years, and then bolts. Because it that happens this will not have been worth it.
My biggest fear is that Wojo takes awhile to become a finished product, has 2-3 good years, and then bolts. Because if that happens this will not have been worth it.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.
TAMUYou have short memory on those two transfer comments from posters on here. Losing Burton was a big loss and many were happy to see him go. As for McKay, he was a virtual unknown to most on here, are they were in favor of 9th year senior CO getting the playing time.Again, few shed tears on Burton and many posted his shortcomings last year and are now silent. He was a big time D1 player and played with authority.
The hope would be that Wojo would have built a strong foundation that could be handed over (perhaps to an internal candidate). Both Xavier and Butler have been able to both survive and thrive with coaching turnover.With that said, can't have another Buzz transition where the next guy is left with nothing.
As pissed as I would be if Wojo left, Stan Johnson taking over would ease the sting.
You have short memory on those two transfer comments from posters on here. Losing Burton was a big loss and many were happy to see him go. As for McKay, he was a virtual unknown to most on here, are they were in favor of 9th year senior CO getting the playing time.Again, few shed tears on Burton and many posted his shortcomings last year and are now silent. He was a big time D1 player and played with authority.
TowerI want Wojo to pan out. I loved the feeling of two weeks ago. Would like to repeat that over and over again.
RockyI am guessing you are referring to Burton and when he left everyone wished him good luck. Most mentions of him post leaving were negative, with usual guys bashing him in various ways.Anytime someone leaves it turns sour six months later. His leaving was a loss to the program and many here felt otherwise.
Do we have any indication he can coach?
I can't find the origin of the Larry Williams St. Louis story. When and where and quotes.
In fairness to Lab, a lot of the speculation around here is on various topics that have some factual support. Example: We know Buzz was recruiting X player because he was spotted at his games, so a rumor saying that MU signed X player is plausible. In this case, a new boss(es), some off the court issues and bad PR MIGHT have created friction between Buzz and the MU administration. Fine. But, there aren't a ton of tangible facts that we have seen that support this, and that's where the board went off the rails. What I read: - Larry wants to be more like ND or Northwestern- Larry is a "Football guy" - Pilarz/BOT think MU's athletic budget is out of control, would like it to be more like SLU- MU is dumb because they changed the nickname, and they will probably run Buzz out of town too!- Some well healed alums might be sneaky racist and would like more white players- MU lets Buzz recruit players no other coach was allowed to (cheap shot BTW)- MU might hate JUCOS- Larry's JS quotes were meanFor me, that's where everything went sideways. To say there might be some friction seems plausible, but the ensuing thought process of some was insane and didn't make any sense.Most of the people here are alumni. We're smart people. We shouldn't fall for some of this sh*t.
I miss Canned Goods & Ammo.
I have been thinking about you alot [sic] since last weekend. A whole lot.
I'm still on da give Wojo more time wagon 'cuz of da chitstorm he inherited. Loved da HE signin', but witout da asst coach out der hustlin', not sure watt da hell talent level wood bee in dis program write now. Steve is seein' skills dat I just don't see. Subsequently, he's put tagether a squad wit like abilities and like deficiencies. One of da reasons dey r weak defensively is 'cuz ders no quickness as a team. Deyr slow to da ball and can't beet anyone off da dribble. Plus wee need some dudes wit attitude. Got a bunch of choir boys, and sopranos at dat.I wish da younguns here could experience and understand watt we old cockers here mean when wee rap Warrior basketball. 'Cuz, day have no clue. Simply graspin' at straws and silver linin's, ai na?
I did go back and find bma's take-down of ners. Made the whole search worth it.
He has been gone for years. Read the take-down.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636In going through some of these threads to find this, I realize that there have been many times that the dissension and accusations on this board have been every bit as bad as they are now.
Let's not forget about wetness.