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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Uncle Rico on February 25, 2021, 11:30:32 AM
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Starting to see guys move into the portal
already so let’s get the ball rolling here. Assume this will be a lengthy list by April 30.
Pitt lost Xavier Johnson and Au’diese Toney the last few days, 2 of their 3 leading scorers.
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Starting to see guys move into the portal
already so let’s get the ball rolling here. Assume this will be a lengthy list by April 30.
Pitt lost Xavier Johnson and Au’diese Toney the last few days, 2 of their 3 leading scorers.
I'm in Pittsburgh, and what remains of the Pitt fanbase is understandably very concerned with what's going on under Capel. It's not as if there's hotshot recruits coming in to steal time from these two next year. Imagine what we'd be feeling if Carton and Garcia both jumped ship now, with games still to be played.
Part of me thinks that it's not necessarily personal toward Capel, but Johnson and Toney are just getting a jump on the competition before the transfer floodgates open at the end of the season. Johnson has a Dominic James-like story - his freshman year easily his best, to the point where he probably could have been drafted. It's been downhill from there, so it's probably a good idea to start fresh (and get his name back out there) if he's going to get a chance again. Toney is 6'6" and an elite defender, so he could make some noise in next year's draft too - it'll be easier to do that outside of a lower tier ACC team.
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This could end up being a very long thread.
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I'd have to imagine MU and UW would be very interested-
BREAKING: Wofford’s Storm Murphy has entered the transfer portal, per a source close to the portal.
The 6-foot senior guard averaged 17.8 points and 4.3 assists this past season.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1369004263020576770
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I'd have questions about his defense, but yeah, I assume both MU and UW would be interested in a career 42% 3P shooter from their backyard.
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Battle leaving George Washington. 17 points and 5 rebounds this year. Played high school at DeLaSalle in Minneapolis after playing for an MU alum at Benilde St. Margaret's early in high school.
https://gwsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jamison-battle/7274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XLwGuE0j18
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I'd have questions about his defense, but yeah, I assume both MU and UW would be interested in a career 42% 3P shooter from their backyard.
Looks pretty solid, good shooter, smart, both schools should look and take him ASAP, quick release nice jumper
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I'd have to imagine MU and UW would be very interested-
BREAKING: Wofford’s Storm Murphy has entered the transfer portal, per a source close to the portal.
The 6-foot senior guard averaged 17.8 points and 4.3 assists this past season.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1369004263020576770
I may not have this right, but I believe his uncle played basketball with Greg Gard at Platteville.
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I may not have this right, but I believe his uncle played basketball with Greg Gard at Platteville.
They have 2 freshman points coming in, they should sign him tomorrow
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They have 2 freshman points coming in, they should sign him tomorrow
Trice and Davison will probably be back to form the Geriatrtic Back Court
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Trice is a really good player, so I am happy to see him move on. They can keep Davison on the roster as long as possible, particularly because the B14 refs obviously hate him ::)
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I'd have to imagine MU and UW would be very interested-
BREAKING: Wofford’s Storm Murphy has entered the transfer portal, per a source close to the portal.
The 6-foot senior guard averaged 17.8 points and 4.3 assists this past season.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1369004263020576770
I would think VA Tech is leader in the clubhouse with Murphy.
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Battle leaving George Washington. 17 points and 5 rebounds this year. Played high school at DeLaSalle in Minneapolis after playing for an MU alum at Benilde St. Margaret's early in high school.
https://gwsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jamison-battle/7274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XLwGuE0j18
Marquette has reached out, plus several others.
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1369132122129248256?s=19 (https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1369132122129248256?s=19)
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Marquette has reached out, plus several others.
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1369132122129248256?s=19 (https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1369132122129248256?s=19)
Im not convinced he would be a starter at the high major level, but he brings a needed killset at a position that we need help at next season. Probably the best fit for our needs on the transfer portal so far besides burnett and maybe Toney
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Im not convinced he would be a starter at the high major level, but he brings a needed killset at a position that we need help at next season. Probably the best fit for our needs on the transfer portal so far besides burnett and maybe Toney
Apparently Wojo will be out for blood.
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Im not convinced he would be a starter at the high major level, but he brings a needed killset at a position that we need help at next season. Probably the best fit for our needs on the transfer portal so far besides burnett and maybe Toney
Gonna play volleyball, too?
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Long range sniper.
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Ha. I guess I just want a player with a killer instinct
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I would think VA Tech is leader in the clubhouse with Murphy.
Agreed. seems like a VT / UW battle. Madison native with two UW alumni parents. and then your previous HC.
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Im not convinced he would be a starter at the high major level, but he brings a needed killset at a position that we need help at next season. Probably the best fit for our needs on the transfer portal so far besides burnett and maybe Toney
Looks like a guy Scoop will overrate and then complain when he is what he is. In agreement with you about his skill set and starting capability
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Gets Charles and this kid, they would be fine at the small forward position, lots of open shots for Cain last year, just was not consistent enough for me. Lots like he has a quick release.
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Greg Parham is a name I might kick the tires on. Big PG for a surprisingly okay VMI team. 6'4, 176 lbs. Nationally ranked in both assist rate and TORate by KenPom. Shot 43.5% from deep. I think a second ballhandler that can play next to Carton is critical for the roster next season.
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Marquette and Providence both offer FIU transfer G Antonio Daye, Jr
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Daye likes to shoot, has a high assist rate, turns it over a lot. Hard pass
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Daye likes to shoot, has a high assist rate, turns it over a lot. Hard pass
Yeah, not one I'd be excited about. He does boast a top 50 steal rate. If he's being recruited to be a 15 minute a game backup, it could be okay. Don't see him being a successful starter.
The only plus side to yesterday is an early start on transfer season.
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Indication we're losing Carton and/or Torrence?
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Indication we're losing Carton and/or Torrence?
I could see us losing Torrence more than Carton to be honest. TAMU has been saying as much, and I tend to agree.
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Or Oso. Or Greg. Or Justin. Or Dawson.
No name will surprise me this year.
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Indication we're losing Carton and/or Torrence?
Maybe. I also think this team is in desperate need of ballhandlers regardless of who comes and who goes. Unfortunately with Daye's TO Rate, I'm not certain he fits the bill.
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Maybe. I also think this team is in desperate need of ballhandlers regardless of who comes and who goes. Unfortunately with Daye's TO Rate, I'm not certain he fits the bill.
He'd fit right in with a 26% TO rate !
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He'd fit right in with a 26% TO rate !
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ckKf5lA78k5iChxfVz/giphy.gif)
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Daye likes to shoot, has a high assist rate, turns it over a lot. Hard pass
They must be worried that Carton will leave. In that case, not sure where next year's turnovers will come from.
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They must be worried that Carton will leave. In that case, not sure where next year's turnovers will come from.
Oh don't worry. Someone always steps up!!!
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Or Oso. Or Greg. Or Justin. Or Dawson.
No name will surprise me this year.
Greg would shock me. He became a starter toward season's end, and Kolby will almost certainly be gone.
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Greg would shock me. He became a starter toward season's end, and Kolby will almost certainly be gone.
The cheese?
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Daye likes to shoot, has a high assist rate, turns it over a lot. Hard pass
Other than the high assist rate he sounds like he’d fit right in.
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Has the NCAA actually decided on immediate eligibility for transfers?
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Other than the high assist rate he sounds like he’d fit right in.
FIU one of the worst teams in the country and he was really bad in conference. Sounds perfect for a team desperate for bodies.
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FIU one of the worst teams in the country and he was really bad in conference. Sounds perfect for a team desperate for bodies.
Yeah, Daye is a Jose Perez level transfer. His value added is negative on t rank
Gainey & Killings following Jamison Battle now. I don’t think this staff is going anywhere
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Yeah, Daye is a Jose Perez level transfer. His value added is negative on t rank
Gainey & Killings following Jamison Battle now. I don’t think this staff is going anywhere
These guys are always building relationships. I don’t think that would be an indicator, but I do agree that they aren’t going anywhere.
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I watched a few clips of FIU games that I found online (not something I ever thought I would do). Watching Daye, I see why high majors are kicking the tires. He is very quick, would be the fastest guy we have on the team, has good handles, and defensive instincts for jumping the passing lanes. However, his decision making skills are very suspect. The clips I watched, he wasn't getting his pocket picked, he was making poor passing decisions or driving with no plan. I guess if you're a coach you think you can coach that out of him but I'd have no confidence in our staff to do that. Doesn't have a good outside shot either.
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Has the NCAA actually decided on immediate eligibility for transfers?
No, that vote is in April. It will pass.
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I watched a few clips of FIU games that I found online (not something I ever thought I would do). Watching Daye, I see why high majors are kicking the tires. He is very quick, would be the fastest guy we have on the team, has good handles, and defensive instincts for jumping the passing lanes. However, his decision making skills are very suspect. The clips I watched, he wasn't getting his pocket picked, he was making poor passing decisions or driving with no plan. I guess if you're a coach you think you can coach that out of him but I'd have no confidence in our staff to do that. Doesn't have a good outside shot either.
Thanks for this...hard pass.
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how is Muggsy not all over Darnell Rogers from UMBC?
Come on Man. 5'2"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1uM-Kk6yM
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how is Muggsy not all over Darnell Rogers from UMBC?
Come on Man. 5'2"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1uM-Kk6yM
I've watched Darnell play a couple of times. He's a fun watch.
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@jakeweingarten: Busy week upcoming for FIU transfer Antonio Daye Jr. He told @Stockrisers he’s expected to complete virtual visits with Clemson, Marquette, and Providence next week.
All three have extended him a scholarship, along with Pitt, Mizzou, St. John’s, Cincinnati, and many others.
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I'd pass on Daye and pray, pray, pray that Wojo can develop Mitchell into a point guard. If Carton stays and improves his handle and Mitchell and Jones can shoot the 3 at a good rate. Have Dawson and Lewis improve their perimeter shot to go along with Elliott, we could have a decent year but I am not holding my breath.
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wouldn't count on wojo developing a freshman. That's likely all on Mitchell
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If the staff is pursuing/offering guards, would that be an indication current guards on the roster are not going to be here. If not, then will there be perception some are being over recruited and say bye-bye.
Currently Carton, Torrence, Akanno, Elliott, Mitchell, Jones. That's six, add another and that's seven guards.
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If the staff is pursuing/offering guards, would that be an indication current guards on the roster are not going to be here. If not, then will there be perception some are being over recruited and say bye-bye.
Currently Carton, Torrence, Akanno, Elliott, Mitchell, Jones. That's six, add another and that's seven guards.
If immediate eligibility is permitted you have to assume at least one will transfer.
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If the staff is pursuing/offering guards, would that be an indication current guards on the roster are not going to be here. If not, then will there be perception some are being over recruited and say bye-bye.
Currently Carton, Torrence, Akanno, Elliott, Mitchell, Jones. That's six, add another and that's seven guards.
Akanno's minutes dropped from little to zero as injuries piled up. Have to think he is gone.
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Akanno's minutes dropped from little to zero as injuries piled up. Have to think he is gone.
Unless he was suffering long term COVID after effects. Was that a factor for him?
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Guessing Perez and Torrence are also history. In true Wojo fashion, he'll plug the leaks with yet another untalented transfer and a freshman and call it a day on 2021-22's roster. Nearly half of the 11-man team (8, at most, will be in the rotation) will be inexperienced newcomers (more than half, if you include the Ighodaro Project). Depressing.
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I'd guess Sy and Dex both stay.
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I'd guess Sy and Dex both stay.
I can’t think of any possible scenario where either *would* stay. Neither is from anywhere remotely close to MKE. Sy is a low major player. I’m not sure Akanno is a D1 player.
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I can’t think of any possible scenario where either *would* stay. Neither is from anywhere remotely close to MKE. Sy is a low major player. I’m not sure Akanno is a D1 player.
From what I've heard Sy likes it here and we are in desperate need if ball handlers. He won't be "cut".
Dexter I'm less sure about but my gut says he'll give it another go after his covid bout, thinking he can bounce back.
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From what I've heard Sy likes it here and we are in desperate need if ball handlers. He won't be "cut".
Dexter I'm less sure about but my gut says he'll give it another go after his covid bout, thinking he can bounce back.
He may like it but will he like it enough should Wojo say “you’re never going to play meaningful minutes here?”
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He may like it but will he like it enough should Wojo say “you’re never going to play meaningful minutes here?”
No idea.
But we lose Koby. We are bringing in maybe one guard who is ready for minutes in Mitchell. Sy will continue to play.
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He may like it but will he like it enough should Wojo say “you’re never going to play meaningful minutes here?”
Why would Wojo say that? How would he know that? Players work and they improve. As long as he is honest with him about what he has to work on and how that would translate to playing time should he improves on those things, that's all he can really say.
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wouldn't count on wojo developing a freshman. That's likely all on Mitchell
Yeah. Howard, both Hausers, Ellenson, Cheatham, Garcia, Lewis ... they all SUCKED as freshmen!
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My current guess is that 2/4 of Jose, Sy, DeX, and Greg leave. Not sure which ones. The others will stay after the other 2 transfer because they see minutes opening up
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Chit, dis teem iz gonna suck donkey dung unless wee get a koach hoo nos watt hees doin', hey?
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82,
You seem to have misread my post. Didn't claim that Mitchell would suck. Far from it. Just that it's debatable that Wojo has the ability to develop him much in a year. Big difference.
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82,
You seem to have misread my post. Didn't claim that Mitchell would suck. Far from it. Just that it's debatable that Wojo has the ability to develop him much in a year. Big difference.
I want Wojo gone, but I’m not one to blame him for everything bad and give him zero credit for anything good.
Plenty of players, even freshmen, have “developed” during Wojo’s 7 seasons. I know the angriest NoJos will say every single case was despite Wojo. I happen to disagree.
So much to criticize him for, I don’t like doing it when I think it’s not really deserved.
Obviously, you’re free to disagree.
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And I will. But I never claimed Mitchell would suck. That was you using hyperbole.
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My current guess is that 2/4 of Jose, Sy, DeX, and Greg leave. Not sure which ones. The others will stay after the other 2 transfer because they see minutes opening up
Greg doesn't need any of them to leave for minutes to open up. So if he left, hes leaving regardless of who else does.
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He may like it but will he like it enough should Wojo say “you’re never going to play meaningful minutes here?”
I don't get the Symir hate on here. He's probably the closest to a "true point guard" so many people are clamoring for. Sure his shooting was abysmal this year, but it was better last year. His A/T ratio is nearly 2:1 (DJ's was 1:1).
I'll take Symir for most improved player in 21/22.
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I don't get the Symir hate on here. He's probably the closest to a "true point guard" so many people are clamoring for. Sure his shooting was abysmal this year, but it was better last year. His A/T ratio is nearly 2:1 (DJ's was 1:1).
I'll take Symir for most improved player in 21/22.
Buy low!
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Greg doesn't need any of them to leave for minutes to open up. So if he left, hes leaving regardless of who else does.
True, I shouldn't have applied the second part to Greg
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Cam’ron Fletcher, Kentucky, 6ft7 SF leaving. From St. Louis, MU had offered the 2020 top 50 recruit.
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Storm Murphy didn’t waste anytime. Committed to VaTech
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I would think VA Tech is leader in the clubhouse with Murphy.
Bump
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First offseason transfer out of the Big East belongs to Providence. Greg Gantt Jr. He wasn't a consistent starter for them but he got starter level minutes. They better hope Duke doesn't decide to try his luck in the NBA draft or they could be below DePaul next season.
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First offseason transfer out of the Big East belongs to Providence. Greg Gantt Jr. He wasn't a consistent starter for them but he got starter level minutes. They better hope Duke doesn't decide to try his luck in the NBA draft or they could be below DePaul next season.
They’ll still probably split with us though, hey?
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1370488916239921152
Jeff Borzello
@jeffborzello
Vermont transfer Stef Smith has heard from Providence, UConn, St. John’s, Marquette, Nebraska, Colorado St., Arkansas, Florida, Santa Clara, St. Mary’s, Mississippi St., Northeastern, UTSA, Washington St., Loyola Marymount and UNCG, per his AAU coach. Two-time All-America East.
Sharpshooting 2G from Vermont. Career 39% 3P shooter. Was very good as a junior, had a bit of an off year as a senior but still was 2nd team all-conference in the AE. Some history with MU, as a FR he hung 20 points on us. Like him better than Daye Jr but not as much as Jamison Battle.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1370488916239921152
Jeff Borzello
@jeffborzello
Vermont transfer Stef Smith has heard from Providence, UConn, St. John’s, Marquette, Nebraska, Colorado St., Arkansas, Florida, Santa Clara, St. Mary’s, Mississippi St., Northeastern, UTSA, Washington St., Loyola Marymount and UNCG, per his AAU coach. Two-time All-America East.
Sharpshooting 2G from Vermont. Career 39% 3P shooter. Was very good as a junior, had a bit of an off year as a senior but still was 2nd team all-conference in the AE. Some history with MU, as a FR he hung 20 points on us. Like him better than Daye Jr but not as much as Jamison Battle.
Battle is a SF, one of those switchables and Daye is PG, so Wojo looking to replace both Cain and Koby.
Should be an interesting two weeks, players will be flocking into the transfer portal and if immediate eligibility is granted it could get crazy.
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First offseason transfer out of the Big East belongs to Providence. Greg Gantt Jr. He wasn't a consistent starter for them but he got starter level minutes. They better hope Duke doesn't decide to try his luck in the NBA draft or they could be below DePaul next season.
Duke would have to at least seriously think about leaving. I've seen at least two mock drafts that have him going in the first round, and many think he'll be a second-rounder.
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Duke would have to at least seriously think about leaving. I've seen at least two mock drafts that have him going in the first round, and many think he'll be a second-rounder.
I do wonder if Cooley sees this as his opportunity to move to BC. If Duke leaves, there will be some heavy lifting involved at PC and you wonder if he thinks he’s topped out.
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I do wonder if Cooley sees this as his opportunity to move to BC. If Duke leaves, there will be some heavy lifting involved at PC and you wonder if he thinks he’s topped out.
I think he is topped out at Providence and with UConn back in the league, the job is more difficult
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I think he is topped out at Providence and with UConn back in the league, the job is more difficult
True ... but although this was a down year for the ACC, they have some pretty good programs that make it difficult to win there, too.
Not saying he wouldn't go.
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True ... but although this was a down year for the ACC, they have some pretty good programs that make it difficult to win there, too.
Not saying he wouldn't go.
I have no idea if he’s leaving or not but there’s a ceiling at Providence.
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First offseason transfer out of the Big East belongs to Providence. Greg Gantt Jr. He wasn't a consistent starter for them but he got starter level minutes. They better hope Duke doesn't decide to try his luck in the NBA draft or they could be below DePaul next season.
I've kinda felt like it seems Duke is almost expected to go. Isn't he a legit shot at being a 1st rounder?
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True ... but although this was a down year for the ACC, they have some pretty good programs that make it difficult to win there, too.
Not saying he wouldn't go.
PC should go for a Pitino reunion if he leaves. My guess is that Friar fans would be fine with that.
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Isaiah Moore of St John’s in the transfer portal. Reportedly had issues with Anderson. Was benched for the last two games.
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Isaiah Moore of St John’s in the transfer portal. Reportedly had issues with Anderson. Was benched for the last two games.
Actually was in COVID protocol.
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Actually was in COVID protocol.
Smokescreen given the entry into the transfer portal?
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Actually was in COVID protocol.
He was on the bench for the Seton Hall game last weekend.
It sounds like nobody with SJU is too sad over him leaving.
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I've kinda felt like it seems Duke is almost expected to go. Isn't he a legit shot at being a 1st rounder?
I think the smart money is on him going. I probably could've phrased my post better to reflect that.
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I think the smart money is on him going. I probably could've phrased my post better to reflect that.
No worries I don't follow it all too much just coulda sworn I saw a lot of things pointing to him leaving.
Would definitely be crucial for them to get another year out of him.
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He was on the bench for the Seton Hall game last weekend.
It sounds like nobody with SJU is too sad over him leaving.
https://nypost.com/2021/03/11/st-johns-forward-isaih-moore-out-of-big-east-tournament-due-to-covid-19-protocol/
You right, hardly played. I believe he had problems in his prior to SJU stint.
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Interesting name in the transfer portal. John Meeks from Bucknell.
Had a very pedestrian first three years at Bucknell. Benchwarmer as FR, back of the rotation guy as SO, part time starter as a JR. This was his senior year.
Bucknell plays in the Patriot league which opted out of non-conference play due to COVID. Their first game was January 2nd. Meeks missed the first four games with an injury, Bucknell goes 0-4. Meeks was ready for game #5 and put up a very modest 12 point performance in his season debut and Bucknell's first win of the season. Meeks then goes off the next three games averaging 28.7 points, 7 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.3 steals, 2.3 turns, while shooting 55% from 2 and 43% from 3. Bucknell is now 4-4...but due to weird conference scheduling all 4 wins are against Lehigh. After that spurt, Bucknell goes on COVID pause for 3 weeks. When they returned, Meeks is still on COVID protocol and misses the last 2 games of the regular season, both losses for Bucknell. Meeks returns for the Patriot tournament and hangs 31 and 11 on Lafayette to lead Bucknell to the upset. In the next round, Meeks ended up with 23 points but Bucknell still got spanked by Colgate, the top team in the conference.
All in all, Meeks averaged 25.3 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1 steal, 2.7 turnovers, shot 53.2% from 2 and 38.5 from 3. Take off his first game back from injury and those numbers go up even higher....but he only played 6 games, 4 of them against #333 Lehigh.
So, potential high major starter? Or just a dude who got to play 67% of his games against the same sub 330 team?
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Interesting name in the transfer portal. John Meeks from Bucknell.
Had a very pedestrian first three years at Bucknell. Benchwarmer as FR, back of the rotation guy as SO, part time starter as a JR. This was his senior year.
Bucknell plays in the Patriot league which opted out of non-conference play due to COVID. Their first game was January 2nd. Meeks missed the first four games with an injury, Bucknell goes 0-4. Meeks was ready for game #5 and put up a very modest 12 point performance in his season debut and Bucknell's first win of the season. Meeks then goes off the next three games averaging 28.7 points, 7 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.3 steals, 2.3 turns, while shooting 55% from 2 and 43% from 3. Bucknell is now 4-4...but due to weird conference scheduling all 4 wins are against Lehigh. After that spurt, Bucknell goes on COVID pause for 3 weeks. When they returned, Meeks is still on COVID protocol and misses the last 2 games of the regular season, both losses for Bucknell. Meeks returns for the Patriot tournament and hangs 31 and 11 on Lafayette to lead Bucknell to the upset. In the next round, Meeks ended up with 23 points but Bucknell still got spanked by Colgate, the top team in the conference.
All in all, Meeks averaged 25.3 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1 steal, 2.7 turnovers, shot 53.2% from 2 and 38.5 from 3. Take off his first game back from injury and those numbers go up even higher....but he only played 6 games, 4 of them against #333 Lehigh.
So, potential high major starter? Or just a dude who got to play 67% of his games against the same sub 330 team?
Interesting situation. My inclination would be to think his stats are a fluke with so few games played against such weak competition. But you just never know.
Given that it is only a one year scholarship, he might be worth a gamble if you have an open space, but I wouldn’t deliberately keep a roster spot open for him if more proven players are interested.
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Per Jeff Goodman, Kyky Tandy is transferring from Xavier. He lost playing time as the season went on, so no surprise.
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Interesting name in the transfer portal. John Meeks from Bucknell.
Had a very pedestrian first three years at Bucknell. Benchwarmer as FR, back of the rotation guy as SO, part time starter as a JR. This was his senior year.
Bucknell plays in the Patriot league which opted out of non-conference play due to COVID. Their first game was January 2nd. Meeks missed the first four games with an injury, Bucknell goes 0-4. Meeks was ready for game #5 and put up a very modest 12 point performance in his season debut and Bucknell's first win of the season. Meeks then goes off the next three games averaging 28.7 points, 7 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.3 steals, 2.3 turns, while shooting 55% from 2 and 43% from 3. Bucknell is now 4-4...but due to weird conference scheduling all 4 wins are against Lehigh. After that spurt, Bucknell goes on COVID pause for 3 weeks. When they returned, Meeks is still on COVID protocol and misses the last 2 games of the regular season, both losses for Bucknell. Meeks returns for the Patriot tournament and hangs 31 and 11 on Lafayette to lead Bucknell to the upset. In the next round, Meeks ended up with 23 points but Bucknell still got spanked by Colgate, the top team in the conference.
All in all, Meeks averaged 25.3 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1 steal, 2.7 turnovers, shot 53.2% from 2 and 38.5 from 3. Take off his first game back from injury and those numbers go up even higher....but he only played 6 games, 4 of them against #333 Lehigh.
So, potential high major starter? Or just a dude who got to play 67% of his games against the same sub 330 team?
I'm definitely in favor of bringing in Meeks, as long as next season's schedule includes 20 games against Lehigh and 5 against Lafayette.
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Per Jeff Goodman, Kyky Tandy is transferring from Xavier. He lost playing time as the season went on, so no surprise.
When I did my Top 50 players in the Big East for Paint Touches this year, I left off KyKy Tandy in favor of Nate Johnson. A few people here and a lot of Xavier fans told me I was nuts. I really never understood the hype around Tandy, he could score....and nothing else and he wasn't that efficient at scoring.
It's okay, I got plenty of other things wrong in that article. I had Bouknight outside the top 10 and Watson outside the top 30 :o
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When I did my Top 50 players in the Big East for Paint Touches this year, I left off KyKy Tandy in favor of Nate Johnson. A few people here and a lot of Xavier fans told me I was nuts. I really never understood the hype around Tandy, he could score....and nothing else and he wasn't that efficient at scoring.
It's okay, I got plenty of other things wrong in that article. I had Bouknight outside the top 10 and Watson outside the top 30 :o
I read his bio on the X website last year. That dude could fill it up in high school, and I was a little perplexed why he seemed like such a non-factor in college. Seems like kind of a bust given his high school accolades.
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UMass C Tre Mitchell?? Averaged 18ppg and over 7 rebs.
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UMass C Tre Mitchell?? Averaged 18ppg and over 7 rebs.
I would 100% be interested. Good with left hand. Can dribble. Hits 3s occasionally and decent looking jumper. Would open the floor up for Carton and any other slasher we had.
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Vandy and Tandy have mutual interest. We'll see where he lands.
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Vandy and Tandy have mutual interest. We'll see where he lands.
Would be dandy.
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Would be dandy.
I’m a big fan of Jessica Tandy.
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I’m a big fan of Jessica Tandy.
Tandy Corporation owned Radio Shack. Shaq to MU!
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Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Indiana senior Al Durham has entered the transfer portal, source told @stadium
Durham averaged 11.3 points per game this past season.
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Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Indiana senior Al Durham has entered the transfer portal, source told @stadium
Durham averaged 11.3 points per game this past season.
There might be several Indiana players joining him in the portal now.
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There might be several Indiana players joining him in the portal now.
How will they ever recover ?!
(Teal)
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Marquette and Memphis after Cam'Ron Fletcher.
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1371526213639020548?s=19 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1371526213639020548?s=19)
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Marquette and Memphis after Cam'Ron Fletcher.
[img]https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1371526213639020548?s=19[/url]
His offer list is piling up. I am not surprised to see Georgetown on his list of suitors. He was a high school teammate with Kobe Clark. Fletcher also played high school ball with former MUBB recruiting target Mario Mckinney.
Fletcher has a lot of potential on the wing with strong player development.
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1371534512874749959?s=19
Georgetown has been aggresively recruiting that geography. They recently offered Kellen Thames, son of former Mizzou star Kelly Thames. And, Georgetown has a commitment from 5 star Aminu Mohammed from the Southwest part of the state, who has a DC connection.
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Going to be the case soon enough everywhere, I imagine:
Brett McMurphy @Brett_McMurphy
ACC eliminates league’s intraconference transfer rule, allowing players to transfer to new ACC school w/out sitting out a year. ACC commish Jim Phillips:
“This decision is in best interest of our student-athletes as it allows greater flexibility during their collegiate career.”
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Glad to see Wojo is casting a wide net.
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Glad to see Wojo is casting a wide net.
Desperate net
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Desperate net
Yeah, well..can't argue there. Maybe he'll actually get some good players this offseason. Need plenty of that.
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Desperate net
Good.
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Marquette and Memphis after Cam'Ron Fletcher.
[img]https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1371526213639020548?s=19[/url]
Good. This is one I wanted to see us get. Could be sort of a post-hype kid in teh vein of Quinnerly.
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I'd 100% take my chances on Fletcher becoming something
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MU didn’t make Daye’s final 4.
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MU didn’t make Daye’s final 4.
It's just not MU's Daye
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MU didn’t make Daye’s final 4.
That was quick.
Arkansas, Clemson, Pitt or Providence.
Next up...
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MU didn’t make Daye’s final 4.
Thank god.
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It's just not MU's Daye
Best of luck to the young man but I don’t think he’d have been very helpful at Marquette
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MU didn’t make Daye’s final 4.
That's fine. I'd rather focus on Fletcher and Mitchell
Per fletcher on what he is looking for:
"First thing that I am looking for is a good point guard and just a program that plays fast, is scrappy and plays hard. Whatever college I go to I am going to focus on a group of guys that just play extra hard."
https://247sports.com/Article/CamRon-Fletcher-Kentucky-transfer-schools-involved-recruiting-timeframe-162463633/
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Desperate net
At least it shows he recognizes the situation. That’s a first step.
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That's fine. I'd rather focus on Fletcher and Mitchell
Per fletcher on what he is looking for:
"First thing that I am looking for is a good point guard and just a program that plays fast, is scrappy and plays hard. Whatever college I go to I am going to focus on a group of guys that just play extra hard."
https://247sports.com/Article/CamRon-Fletcher-Kentucky-transfer-schools-involved-recruiting-timeframe-162463633/
Sounds like we're out if he wants scrappy players
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Sounds like we're out if he wants scrappy players
Thankfully, you're just being facetious.
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Sounds like we're out if he wants scrappy players
(https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufbn6yDD422Uqcg/giphy.gif)
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By my count, 68 players entered the transfer portal today.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/9oIZRd54OPX3dPNV6p/200.gif)
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By my count, 68 players entered the transfer portal today.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/9oIZRd54OPX3dPNV6p/200.gif)
I think the official term for that size group of basketball players is a “bracket.“
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I think the official term for that size group of basketball players is a “bracket.“
🙌🙌🙌
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Vince Cole out at St. John's. Started 22/27 games and played starter minutes. His minutes wanted a little at the end of the season but he was still starting and getting over 20 a game. Wonder if he had the same issue with Anderson that Moore did.
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That's fine. I'd rather focus on Fletcher and Mitchell
Per fletcher on what he is looking for:
"First thing that I am looking for is a good point guard and just a program that plays fast, is scrappy and plays hard. Whatever college I go to I am going to focus on a group of guys that just play extra hard."
https://247sports.com/Article/CamRon-Fletcher-Kentucky-transfer-schools-involved-recruiting-timeframe-162463633/
I'd say MUBB out, we are not known as Point Guard U since we are now known more as Turnover University.
When do we start seeing the MU names out-bound? Gotta suspect Perez, Osa and Torrence at a minimum and probably more.......would really hate to see my man-crush Lewis go :(
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I'd say MUBB out, we are not known as Point Guard U since we are now known more as Turnover University.
When do we start seeing the MU names out-bound? Gotta suspect Perez, Osa and Torrence at a minimum and probably more.......would really hate to see my man-crush Lewis go :(
I would imagine he would find Carton to be a good PG that would facilitate. Despite the negativity here, we do have a decent roster of kids that will be better next year. Whether the coaching matches up, who knows.
I think the most disappointing part about the team was that they were scrappy but didn't execute. Lots of games it was clear we missed a rebounding 3 pt threat like BB.
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I would imagine he would find Carton to be a good PG that would facilitate. Despite the negativity here, we do have a decent roster of kids that will be better next year.
No!
Marquette is the only place where promising freshmen and sophomores NEVER get better.
Markus ... Sam ... Sacar ... Theo ... Bailey ...
They all stayed the EXACT same as when they were freshmen!
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I'd say MUBB out, we are not known as Point Guard U since we are now known more as Turnover University.
When do we start seeing the MU names out-bound? Gotta suspect Perez, Osa and Torrence at a minimum and probably more.......would really hate to see my man-crush Lewis go :(
If Wojo returns, I would expect the big 3 and Oso to return. If anything Carton would try to go pro. I predict 2 of Greg, Sy, Perez, and Dexter to transfer. If Wojo goes, everyone transfers, maybe some get recruited back
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If Wojo goes, everyone transfers, maybe some get recruited back
So what, hey? Plenty of basketball players out there.
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No!
Marquette is the only place where promising freshmen and sophomores NEVER get better.
Markus ... Sam ... Sacar ... Theo ... Bailey ...
They all stayed the EXACT same as when they were freshmen!
Are you serious about that! Sacar did not improve, really. Who would have dreamed he could score about 14 a game as a senior!
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Couple names coming out of Penn St that might be nice fits specifically Harrar. Big body to replace the role of Theo.
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So what, hey? Plenty of basketball players out there.
Wasn't a commentary on whether or not to fire Wojo. I'm team fire Wojo
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Symir has entered the transfer portal.
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Symir has entered the transfer portal.
Pretty sure this was expected, but with Killings gone, it was imminent.
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If Wojo returns, I would expect the big 3 and Oso to return. If anything Carton would try to go pro. I predict 2 of Greg, Sy, Perez, and Dexter to transfer. If Wojo goes, everyone transfers, maybe some get recruited back
Why would Greg transfer? Plenty of guard minutes to be had and he was starting at the end of the year. Sy and Perez aren't really losses, though I'd love for them to stay as depth is important as we see year after year after year after year of not having any.
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Any word yet on Perez?
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Symir has entered the transfer portal.
Flashed at times but never lived up to his 4* ranking. A miss by the staff and another setback
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Symir has entered the transfer portal.
I'm hopeful that's a sign that Carton is sticking around. But wouldn't be surprised if it's completely separate.
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If Wojo returns, I would expect the big 3 and Oso to return. If anything Carton would try to go pro. I predict 2 of Greg, Sy, Perez, and Dexter to transfer. If Wojo goes, everyone transfers, maybe some get recruited back
Surprised you feel Oso is expected back. He really wasn’t in the rotation and is a long way from home. Also, bringing in a freshman at his position. He’d probably be number 4 in the pecking order for bigs again.
And yeah 2 or 3 of the other guys. I’ll predict Greg is the only one staying.
Lot of turnover left to happen at MU I’m feeling.
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Why would Greg transfer? Plenty of guard minutes to be had and he was starting at the end of the year.
Been here four years, might want a change of scenery. And Jamal is (presumably) gone.
Not saying he's leaving, but it wouldn't be a shock.
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If Wojo returns, I would expect the big 3 and Oso to return. If anything Carton would try to go pro. I predict 2 of Greg, Sy, Perez, and Dexter to transfer. If Wojo goes, everyone transfers, maybe some get recruited back
Greg has limited movement with his injuries, but, he is MUBB's best shooter and smartest player. I don't see him getting less minutes less year at MUBB.
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Sy is a loss in the fact that he seemed very well liked by all of the teammates and seemed to always have a good attitude. Hoping he has some success at his next stop.
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Good luck to him. Good dribbling and facilitator, he showed flashes during his limited playing time.
He must work on that shot though, 5 for 36 (14%) from three will not make his new coach very happy.
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Surprised you feel Oso is expected back. He really wasn’t in the rotation and is a long way from home. Also, bringing in a freshman at his position. He’d probably be number 4 in the pecking order for bigs again.
And yeah 2 or 3 of the other guys. I’ll predict Greg is the only one staying.
Lot of turnover left to happen at MU I’m feeling.
What freshman are they bringing in at Oso's position? I hope you don't mean Aidoo.
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Flashed at times but never lived up to his 4* ranking. A miss by the staff and another setback
Another sign that Wojo recruits off rankings.
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Not surprising. I’d expect two more outgoing before it’s all said and done.
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Another sign that Wojo recruits off rankings.
His staff has identified kids before they blow up, that he deserves some credit for but Sy was a kid that needed to be a key piece for the 21-22 team
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Sy to Albany feels like an imminent move.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
UConn, Marquette, Butler, already among the early programs to reach out to Penn State transfer Seth Lundy, he told @stockrisers. Growing list of suitors is expected.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
UConn, Marquette, Butler, already among the early programs to reach out to Penn State transfer Seth Lundy, he told @stockrisers. Growing list of suitors is expected.
Big time chucker
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Big time chucker
Pretty sure Marquette was originally in on him out of HS
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Pretty sure Marquette was originally in on him out of HS
They were and offered per Rivals.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
UConn, Marquette, Butler, already among the early programs to reach out to Penn State transfer Seth Lundy, he told @stockrisers. Growing list of suitors is expected.
We offered him out of high school.
May be a chucker, but not afraid to take a shot, which seems like a problem we had this year. if he can be mor eof the 39% from 3 shooter he was in frosh year, I'd be happy.
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Assuming that Dawson, DJ, Lewis and Elliott return, and throw in 2 recruits, that's a total of 6 bodies. Oso and Akanno makes 8. The odds that all 8 return are exceptionally low. In which case, there are plenty of roster spots, minutes, and shots to be had. Reach out early and often.
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Assuming that Dawson, DJ, Lewis and Elliott return, and throw in 2 recruits, that's a total of 6 bodies. Oso and Akanno makes 8. The odds that all 8 return are exceptionally low. In which case, there are plenty of roster spots, minutes, and shots to be had. Reach out early and often.
Current roster is:
DJ
Dawson
Lewis
Elliot
Dexter
Oso
Perez?
incoming:
Stevie
Jonas
Kam
That gets you to ten. We might have Kordell Charles as well as a frosh coming in. Meaning you have 3-4 spots to fill most likely (as I have no idea where Perez lands after the staying home part).
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Pretty sure Marquette was originally in on him out of HS
Yep. Really weird/inconsistent minutes and performance at Psu this past year. Certainly could’ve been because of the interim HC
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GW transfer Jamison Battle talks Marquette (and nice to hear this about Dawson).
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jamison-Battle-transfer-Arizona-Butler-Marquette-Tennessee-Xavier-recruitment-timeframe-162520801/
"I would say Butler and Marquette have reached out to me the most," he said. "I talked to Xavier, Tennessee and Arizona as well."
Marquette: "Marquette is kind of the same way, they are looking for a guy and I am exactly who they are looking for so it's just being close to home is something that I look at as well but it doesn't really make or break the decision. I know Marquette is a good place and I know Dawson Garcia and he has enjoyed his time there this year. He hit me up and said that we will talk."
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GW transfer Jamison Battle talks Marquette (and nice to hear this about Dawson).
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jamison-Battle-transfer-Arizona-Butler-Marquette-Tennessee-Xavier-recruitment-timeframe-162520801/
"I would say Butler and Marquette have reached out to me the most," he said. "I talked to Xavier, Tennessee and Arizona as well."
Marquette: "Marquette is kind of the same way, they are looking for a guy and I am exactly who they are looking for so it's just being close to home is something that I look at as well but it doesn't really make or break the decision. I know Marquette is a good place and I know Dawson Garcia and he has enjoyed his time there this year. He hit me up and said that we will talk."
Love hearing it.
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Antonio Daye Jr cut his list to 4, marquette did not make the cut
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Current roster is:
DJ
Dawson
Lewis
Elliot
Dexter
Oso
Perez?
incoming:
Stevie
Jonas
Kam
That gets you to ten. We might have Kordell Charles as well as a frosh coming in. Meaning you have 3-4 spots to fill most likely (as I have no idea where Perez lands after the staying home part).
Staying home? What do you mean, exactly? Did he stay in NY after the BET?
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Staying home? What do you mean, exactly? Did he stay in NY after the BET?
He didn’t travel to the BET.
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He didn’t travel to the BET.
Eeeek. Hadn't heard that. Was there any reason given as to why?
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Eeeek. Hadn't heard that. Was there any reason given as to why?
"Personal Reasons"
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Perez already transferred to MU (and was granted an eligibility waiver), so he'd have to sit out if he transferred again, correct?
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GW transfer Jamison Battle talks Marquette (and nice to hear this about Dawson).
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jamison-Battle-transfer-Arizona-Butler-Marquette-Tennessee-Xavier-recruitment-timeframe-162520801/
"I would say Butler and Marquette have reached out to me the most," he said. "I talked to Xavier, Tennessee and Arizona as well."
Marquette: "Marquette is kind of the same way, they are looking for a guy and I am exactly who they are looking for so it's just being close to home is something that I look at as well but it doesn't really make or break the decision. I know Marquette is a good place and I know Dawson Garcia and he has enjoyed his time there this year. He hit me up and said that we will talk."
That comment about Dawson is excellent news.
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You can remove lewis from the roster
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please stop trolling
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You can remove lewis from the roster
Link or stfu. You're basing this on reading tea leaves?
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You can remove lewis from the roster
Just stop, you turd.
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Lewis posted on his Instagram: “Don’t get too comfortable...”
Could mean literally anything or nothing at all.
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For anyone curious, this is what MDSB is referring to.
https://twitter.com/1lilce/status/1371641634996228096?s=19
Lewis retweeted this. A word of advice, don't try to interpret vague social media posts retweeted by 18 to 22 year olds. You will get it wrong
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For anyone curious, this is what MDSB is referring to.
https://twitter.com/1lilce/status/1371641634996228096?s=19
Lewis retweeted this. A word of advice, don't try to interpret vague social media posts retweeted by 18 to 22 year olds. You will get it wrong
What’s a thot tamu?
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What’s a thot tamu?
I actually know that one, lol. Urban dictionary should help you out
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I would also point out that many times people try to interpret tweets that turn out to be song lyrics. That's a popular one too.
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@jakeweingarten: Breaking: Cincinnati freshman Tari Eason will be transferring from the program, he told @Stockrisers. The 6’8 forward appeared in 23 games and averaged 7.5 points and 1.3 blocks per game. Will draw high-major suitors instantly.
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They were and offered per Rivals.
Marquette was in his final 4 teams along with Louisville, VT, and Penn St
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Yeah butt, if we're gettin' a knew koach, woodant a transfer wate ta cee hoo dat's gonna bee, hey?
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Yeah butt, if we're gettin' a knew koach, woodant a transfer wate ta cee hoo dat's gonna bee, hey?
Maybe he's been reading scoop and saw that we already have Pitino penciled in, hey?
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Yeah butt, if we're gettin' a knew koach, woodant a transfer wate ta cee hoo dat's gonna bee, hey?
Yep.
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@jakeweingarten
Cincinnati transfer Mike Saunders Jr. tells @stockrisers he’s heard from BYU, Utah State, ETSU, Texas A&M, Georgia, Xavier, Tulane, Marquette, UNLV, Penn State, Ohio, Toledo, South Carolina, and many others.
Is slated to speak with Frank Martin’s staff this evening.
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*player enters portal*
Wojo: (https://media4.giphy.com/media/1jXGsHY2EKdL27mEMd/giphy.gif)
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602 names in the transfer portal today. That's more names than the entire 2012 offseason...and we have yet to start the NCAA tournament
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602 names in the transfer portal today. That's more names than the entire 2012 offseason...and we have yet to start the NCAA tournament
Almost 2 for every Div 1 school. MU with 1 so far. We'll see how the averages go.
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Almost 2 for every Div 1 school. MU with 1 so far. We'll see how the averages go.
Yeah, that's the other dopey Wojo narrative: He loses a ton of transfers.
He actually has lost fewer than the average, if I'm not mistaken. It seems worse because the Hausers were a devastating loss -- Sam, because he could play; Joey, because he had potential; both because of the optics and timing -- but otherwise Marquette hadn't lost an "impact" transfer since Burton left in Wojo's very first year.
I'm guessing MU would lose far more transfers if Wojo goes than if Wojo stays.
Having said that, I'd still show him the door. Can't let the prospect of lost transfers or recruits affect this kind of decision.
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You’d still be an illiterate moron.
Heer, dis iz gonna make it ezeer four ewe two understand...k m donkey, hey?
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Yeah, that's the other dopey Wojo narrative: He loses a ton of transfers.
He actually has lost fewer than the average, if I'm not mistaken. It seems worse because the Hausers were a devastating loss -- Sam, because he could play; Joey, because he had potential; both because of the optics and timing -- but otherwise Marquette hadn't lost an "impact" transfer since Burton left in Wojo's very first year.
I'm guessing MU would lose far more transfers if Wojo goes than if Wojo stays.
Having said that, I'd still show him the door. Can't let the prospect of lost transfers or recruits affect this kind of decision.
A change in coach could very well lead to a year zero scenario like Penn State. It would be painful but give the new coach a chance to build something
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Yeah, that's the other dopey Wojo narrative: He loses a ton of transfers.
He actually has lost fewer than the average, if I'm not mistaken. It seems worse because the Hausers were a devastating loss -- Sam, because he could play; Joey, because he had potential; both because of the optics and timing -- but otherwise Marquette hadn't lost an "impact" transfer since Burton left in Wojo's very first year.
If you want the actual numbers, Wojo has had 11 transfers in 7 years (1.57 a year). One of those was walk-on Christian Haffner who doesn't really count. But one of them was Sam Hauser who may count for 5.
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If you want the actual numbers, Wojo has had 11 transfers in 7 years (1.57 a year). One of those was walk-on Christian Haffner who doesn't really count. But one of them was Sam Hauser who may count for 5.
Personally, I don't get worked up on transfers in general. It is a way of life in CBBall today. To me the concern/critique with Wojo is the number of regrettable losses and people quitting the team mid-year.
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602 names in the transfer portal today. That's more names than the entire 2012 offseason...and we have yet to start the NCAA tournament
If there was ever a year for a team to reload quickly and turn things around immediately, this is the year. We’ll see if Wojo can do it.
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602 names in the transfer portal today. That's more names than the entire 2012 offseason...and we have yet to start the NCAA tournament
Wojo has offered all 602.
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Like Buzz did during recruiting.
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If there was ever a year for a team to reload quickly and turn things around immediately, this is the year. We’ll see if Wojo can do it.
Do it at another school, hey?
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If you want the actual numbers, Wojo has had 11 transfers in 7 years (1.57 a year). One of those was walk-on Christian Haffner who doesn't really count. But one of them was Sam Hauser who may count for 5.
Yeah, obviously, quality of player matters a lot more than numbers, and context is important, too.
Hausershima was devastating, not just because Sam is a heck of a college basketball player and Joey might still be good one day, and not just because it helped make last season and this season worse, but because of how it made Wojo and his program look.
But the snarky narrative about Marquette being Lost Transfer U these last 7 years is wrong. Marquette lost some transfers, most of them lower-level players. Other schools lost at least as many, and quality players too.
So many things to rip Wojo for -- with Hausershima being at or near the top of the list -- that it's just piling on to invent stuff. But I know that's how we roll on the interwebs.
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Do it at another school, hey?
I suppose you could also say this would be the best possible year for a new coach to come in and hit the ground running the first year if they're able to get some decent transfers with immediate eligibility.
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I suppose you could also say this would be the best possible year for a new coach to come in and hit the ground running the first year if they're able to get some decent transfers with immediate eligibility.
Correctamundo
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Has anyone mentioned this yet but Wonder if Tyrese Hunter from Racine Saint Catherine’s will transfer from Iowa State with their coaching change.
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Marcus Carr back in the portal.
Not sure if he stays in college ultimately though.
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Has anyone mentioned this yet but Wonder if Tyrese Hunter from Racine Saint Catherine’s will transfer from Iowa State with their coaching change.
TJ might make ISU more appealing for Tyrese.
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TJ might make ISU more appealing for Tyrese.
Yea. I think he was the link for many Wisconsin kids to ISU.
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Hausershima was devastating, not just because Sam is a heck of a college basketball player and Joey might still be good one day, and not just because it helped make last season and this season worse, but because of how it made Wojo and his program look.
Joey would have been good at MU where defense is just an afterthought. At MSU, I don't think he will never be better than serviceable. Hard to be good getting 15 min per game off the bench because you won't play 'D'.
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Wojo was after Carr when he left pitt right?
Unless he graduated in 4 years, isn't Carr going to have to sit even if immediate transfers are allowed? He's already transferred once.
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Wojo was after Carr when he left pitt right?
Unless he graduated in 4 years, isn't Carr going to have to sit even if immediate transfers are allowed? He's already transferred once.
Correct. We might want to look at Mashburn Jr. from Minnesota as well.
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We can't do anything about it right now, but Walker Kessler is in the portal now. 670 players and counting.
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We can't do anything about it right now, but Walker Kessler is in the portal now. 670 players and counting.
He was a big time player in high school. Really good. He will have lots and lots of choices.
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If MUBB is looking for depth at point guard, Brandon McKissic has entered the portal. (Grad Transfer) Averaged 17 & 3 at UMKC and was a defensive All American. Brandon is a baller.
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Correct. We might want to look at Mashburn Jr. from Minnesota as well.
I'm betting Mashburn is heading to Iona (or wherever Rick Sr. is next season).
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A 6-5 guard/wing who can really play ...
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article250125289.html?ac_cid=DM411831&ac_bid=-170391639
Davidson leading scorer Kellan Grady has entered the transfer portal to potentially play a fifth season of college basketball.
Grady, a 6-foot-5 guard, has been a fixture for the Wildcats in men’s basketball, averaging 17.4 points over four Atlantic 10 seasons. An NCAA rule related to the pandemic allows players an extra season of eligibility next winter if they choose to accept it. Grady, a graduate transfer, would be immediately eligible at another school.
Davidson coach Bob McKillop told The Observer on Monday that he met with Grady recently, and Grady expressed a desire to keep all his options open, whether that be the NBA draft, playing professionally overseas or another season of high-level college ball.
Davidson does not have graduate programs, so he almost surely will not play another year there.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Indiana sophomore Armaan Franklin has entered the transfer portal, a source told @stockrisers. Former four-star prospect was recruited by former Hoosiers coach Archie Miller.
Franklin averaged 11.4 points on 43% shooting. Will draw high-major suitors instantly.
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Random question about MU players:
They aren’t able to freely be recruited by other schools during this time, correct? They have to be officially released?
If so, I give them credit for at least taking some time to process things and possibly giving the new coach a chance. Every time I log on I’m expected a thread about an MU transfer but all is quiet so far.
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Random question about MU players:
They aren’t able to freely be recruited by other schools during this time, correct? They have to be officially released?
If so, I give them credit for at least taking some time to process things and possibly giving the new coach a chance. Every time I log on I’m expected a thread about an MU transfer but all is quiet so far.
Agreed. I think its encouraging (tho somewhat surprising) that things have been so quiet.
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Agreed. I think its encouraging (tho somewhat surprising) that things have been so quiet.
Last time donors were very involved in the interviewing process. Now we have an AD.
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Random question about MU players:
They aren’t able to freely be recruited by other schools during this time, correct? They have to be officially released?
If so, I give them credit for at least taking some time to process things and possibly giving the new coach a chance. Every time I log on I’m expected a thread about an MU transfer but all is quiet so far.
I thought the same thing - odd that no one (other than Symir) has entered the portal yet, as it's not as if they can't decide to come back if they'd like. That makes me suspect that they've informed on the candidates, and there's enough excitement not to jump ship right away.
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It also seems like things have really slowed down since the tournament started.
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I thought the same thing - odd that no one (other than Symir) has entered the portal yet, as it's not as if they can't decide to come back if they'd like. That makes me suspect that they've informed on the candidates, and there's enough excitement not to jump ship right away.
I'm really surprised too. I would think that they would all enter the portal. Under "normal" circumstances, putting your name in the portal is a pretty difficult thing to walk back because you've announced to your current coach and teammates that you don't want to be there any more. But when there's a coaching change, I would think that it's pretty each to reverse course with no lasting effect.
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I'm really surprised too. I would think that they would all enter the portal. Under "normal" circumstances, putting your name in the portal is a pretty difficult thing to walk back because you've announced to your current coach and teammates that you don't want to be there any more. But when there's a coaching change, I would think that it's pretty each to reverse course with no lasting effect.
Right - essentially you're just allowing other AND your new coach to recruit you. But it seems Scholl (and maybe even Wojo) have been honest with them, and they're willing to wait out the search. Plenty of time before next season (and schools will always find scholarships for good players).
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Right - essentially you're just allowing other AND your new coach to recruit you. But it seems Scholl (and maybe even Wojo) have been honest with them, and they're willing to wait out the search. Plenty of time before next season (and schools will always find scholarships for good players).
Definitely evidences the role of an AD in this one. The silence is a little weird for sure.
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Justin Gainey might be playing a role here too.
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Right - essentially you're just allowing other AND your new coach to recruit you. But it seems Scholl (and maybe even Wojo) have been honest with them, and they're willing to wait out the search. Plenty of time before next season (and schools will always find scholarships for good players).
FWIW, there are rumors on the Minnesota board, mentioned in another thread here, that Dawson is putting his name in the portal any day and is supposedly tight with their new coach.
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FWIW, there are rumors on the Minnesota board, mentioned in another thread here, that Dawson is putting his name in the portal any day and is supposedly tight with their new coach.
Yes - I've read. And really - we're probably all too plugged into the timeline here. Wojo news just hit Friday. Only a couple days have passed, and players are probably just catching up on their options too.
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Former child phenom Jordan McCabe announced he's transferring from West Virginia.
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I knew this months ago just couldn't say anything. Good handle doubt he wouldn't have as many turnovers as we had this year.
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Definitely evidences the role of an AD in this one. The silence is a little weird for sure.
I don't think so. We actually have a process taking place. Bill knows what he is doing.
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FWIW, there are rumors on the Minnesota board, mentioned in another thread here, that Dawson is putting his name in the portal any day and is supposedly tight with their new coach.
If Dawson transfers, Minnesota would be an interesting choice.
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If Dawson transfers, Minnesota would be an interesting choice.
Must seriously not want to be far from home. But he'd instantly help get MN to be competitive if the top B1G programs lose Ayo Livers and Garza... and Hauser
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Must seriously not want to be far from home. But he'd instantly help get MN to be competitive if the top B1G programs lose Ayo Livers and Garza... and Hauser
The gophers are going to be bad next year. They're losing basically everyone of note to transfer or graduation. Maybe he wants to go home - but like I said - would be an interesting choice. I am biased (though Gophers are my 2nd team and I do follow them), if Marquette's roster stays mostly intact, they'll be alot better than the Gophers.
Guess we'll see - hoping Dawson stays around.
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The gophers are going to be bad next year. They're losing basically everyone of note to transfer or graduation. Maybe he wants to go home - but like I said - would be an interesting choice. I am biased (though Gophers are my 2nd team and I do follow them), if Marquette's roster stays mostly intact, they'll be alot better than the Gophers.
Guess we'll see - hoping Dawson stays around.
Is Chet Holmgren not considering MN?
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The gophers are going to be bad next year. They're losing basically everyone of note to transfer or graduation. Maybe he wants to go home - but like I said - would be an interesting choice. I am biased (though Gophers are my 2nd team and I do follow them), if Marquette's roster stays mostly intact, they'll be alot better than the Gophers.
Guess we'll see - hoping Dawson stays around.
a lot of quick fixes though. Speculation they are trying to hire AJ Green dad to staff, bringing AJ. Parker Fox, Jamison Battle & Dawson Garcia would be some serious fire power additions adding to Liam Robbins downlow. Could be a fun and quick turnaround
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Is Chet Holmgren not considering MN?
Yeah, to join a long line of high level Minnesotans who "considered" the Gophers, only to go elsewhere. Maybe he breaks that streak, but I doubt it.
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a lot of quick fixes though. Speculation they are trying to hire AJ Green dad to staff, bringing AJ. Parker Fox, Jamison Battle & Dawson Garcia would be some serious fire power additions adding to Liam Robbins downlow. Could be a fun and quick turnaround
I'm curious...are the people speculating this the same people who were blowing up their message board 24 hours ago because the coach that Minnesota hired was not the person that they had speculated?
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I'm curious...are the people speculating this the same people who were blowing up their message board 24 hours ago because the coach that Minnesota hired was not the person that they had speculated?
ryan james usually pretty plugged when it comes to Minnesota hoops. but agreed, could just be blowing smoke. the 247 moderator way of life
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ryan james usually pretty plugged when it comes to Minnesota hoops. but agreed, could just be blowing smoke. the 247 moderator way of life
From your initial post, I genuinely didn't know who was doing the speculating.
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ryan james usually pretty plugged when it comes to Minnesota hoops. but agreed, could just be blowing smoke. the 247 moderator way of life
Didn't James remain vauge and say someone would be entering the portal soon to "come home for a year before going to the NBA"?.
Now that could apply to Dawson(though I doubt he actually ends up in the league after 1 year in Minny) but what I saw didnt have James actually stating who he was referring to.
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Didn't James remain vauge and say someone would be entering the portal soon to "come home for a year before going to the NBA"?.
Now that could apply to Dawson(though I doubt he actually ends up in the league after 1 year in Minny) but what I saw didnt have James actually stating who he was referring to.
the board is all over the place with amount of topics created; but he was asked where the dawson stuff is coming from and said "many expect him to move into the portal and he had very legit interest in staying here in the first place"
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the board is all over the place with amount of topics created; but he was asked where the dawson stuff is coming from and said "many expect him to move into the portal and he had very legit interest in staying here in the first place"
Not that Dawson won’t enter the portal, but Ryan James has been wrong a lot about stuff related to Wisconsin and Marquette. He’s Evan Flood but surrounded by more lakes
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Not that Dawson won’t enter the portal, but Ryan James has been wrong a lot about stuff related to Wisconsin and Marquette. He’s Evan Flood but surrounded by more lakes
We could just ask JayBee. Oh wait...
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He’s Evan Flood but surrounded by more lakes
The putdown was funny in itself. But the use of Flood and lakes in the same sentence ... you da man, Unk!
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First incoming transfer to the Big East goes to, Seton Hall. They picked up former Gopher and more recently American Eagle Jamir Harris. He averaged 20 points a game for the Eagles....who only played 10 games due to COVID this season. His first two seasons were less impressive. Will be interesting to see what he brings to the Big East.
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Big East coach with the most outgoing transfers thus far? Mike Anderson. Josh Roberts entering the portal brings them up to four total.
None of the four were critical per se, but they've gone from losing one starter and the last guy in their rotation, to losing two starters and three guys in their rotation, including 5 of the 7 scholarship players 6'5 or taller. They better hope Champagnie doesn't decide to go pro.
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Big East coach with the most outgoing transfers thus far? Mike Anderson. Josh Roberts entering the portal brings them up to four total.
None of the four were critical per se, but they've gone from losing one starter and the last guy in their rotation, to losing two starters and three guys in their rotation, including 5 of the 7 scholarship players 6'5 or taller. They better hope Champagnie doesn't decide to go pro.
I got for SJU:
Moore, Cole, Caraher and now Roberts. Dunn was a senior.
Side note: Had not been mentioned but Nate Watson coming back for 5th season at Providence
Wilcher put name in portal from X. Pretty high ranked recruit last year. They now have two.
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I got for SJU:
Moore, Cole, Caraher and now Roberts. Dunn was a senior.
Side note: Had not been mentioned but Nate Watson coming back for 5th season at Providence
Wilcher put name in portal from X. Pretty high ranked recruit last year. They now have two.
That's huge for Providence. One of the 2 best bigs in the conference last season, and many think Watson was better than Mamu.
Aside: Our best couple friend from Chicago are Watson's aunt and uncle, so I do root for him when he's not playing against us.
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Big East coach with the most outgoing transfers thus far? Mike Anderson. Josh Roberts entering the portal brings them up to four total.
None of the four were critical per se, but they've gone from losing one starter and the last guy in their rotation, to losing two starters and three guys in their rotation, including 5 of the 7 scholarship players 6'5 or taller. They better hope Champagnie doesn't decide to go pro.
Makes you wonder if someone out there is kicking the tires on Mike Anderson.
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I've been surprised by the number of seniors with their names in the transfer portal. And by seniors I mean current seniors not next year's seniors. Guys looking to take advantage of their COVID year at another institution. The Big East had a pair of these enter the portal today, Jason Carter from Xavier and Shavar Reynolds from Seton Hall. I'm curious if they are just throwing their names out there to see what bites they get before either returning to their original schools, going overseas, or hanging up the sneakers for good.
Transfer season is going to be wild. 839 names in the portal already. More than any year prior to 2017, 65 names away from being third most ever, less than 200 away from the largest transfer crop of all time...and we're still in the Sweet 16. Bonkers.
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A SHU guy I talk to said Reynolds was headed back to role-player status, but I'm skeptical of that. Either way, the league looks to be wide open and I imagine there will be a ton of options on the market for an enterprising coach.
Whomever they go for, it may be wise to try to retain Gainey so he can get to work even before someone new is in his boss' office.
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I got for SJU:
Moore, Cole, Caraher and now Roberts. Dunn was a senior.
Side note: Had not been mentioned but Nate Watson coming back for 5th season at Providence
Wilcher put name in portal from X. Pretty high ranked recruit last year. They now have two.
SJU buddy I talked to is not surprised by any:
Carahar left the team in January. He’s going to try and play while in law school. Good luck!
Moore has discipline issues. Would see less time next year with incoming JUCO and mid year enrollee who came in January.
Cole is a loss with his three point shooting but is pretty one dimensional. A senior.
Roberts wants more time but is open to coming back. Tough guy but saw less time this season. Only 10.7 minutes per game.
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Wahab from Gtown entered the portal too. Man, this is gonna be nuts.
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Wahab from Gtown entered the portal too. Man, this is gonna be nuts.
Ooof. Just win you thought Ewing was turning a corner.
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Will not be surprised if Dawson and DJ both enter the transfer portal
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Ooof. Just win you thought Ewing was turning a corner.
Georgetown was losing Blair, Pickett, Bile and Carey, left the cupboard really bare for next year. Now Wahab, that's bad, but Mutombo's kid is enroute. Wonder if the Top 15 guard recruit might change his mind.
Xavier lost Tandy and Wilcher, two top recruits in last two years, plus two others. SJU just lost a bunch.
There is talent out there and a few weeks to go.
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Will not be surprised if Dawson and DJ both enter the transfer portal
Knowledge or guess?
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Eye'm good wit da 'hole shabang doin' watt day gotta due, hey?
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Knowledge or guess?
Wojo was the main reason both came here, also heard Dawson is tight with the new Minnesota coach?
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Will not be surprised if Dawson and DJ both enter the transfer portal
DJ would have to sit a year, right?
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Knowledge or guess?
Looks like it's time for all of us to look at instagram posts again. ;D
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DJ would have to sit a year, right?
I believe the NCAA announced transfers will not have to sit a year because of COVID.
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Wojo was the main reason both came here, also heard Dawson is tight with the new Minnesota coach?
Ok was curious if there was new information. Still hoping Scholl's convinced them to at least talk to the new coach before deciding to leave.
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Ok was curious if there was new information. Still hoping Scholl's convinced them to at least talk to the new coach before deciding to leave.
I have a feeling this is the case. The complete radio silence is pretty impressive. Maybe I just have a low bar on coaching searches given everything was such a sh*tshow last time.
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I have a feeling this is the case. The complete radio silence is pretty impressive. Maybe I just have a low bar on coaching searches given everything was such a sh*tshow last time.
That's an understatement.
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Ok was curious if there was new information. Still hoping Scholl's convinced them to at least talk to the new coach before deciding to leave.
This, then see. No information, just people's thoughts at the present time.
That being said, the transfer portal players currently enrolled is thriving with talent. Some schools are going to get some really good starting and role players.
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I think Moser would have a tough time hanging on to most of the roster (which doesn't matter if he's THE guy). Other coaches would probably keep more of the roster in tact (which doesn't matter if they aren't THE guy).
I think retaining Gainey would go a long way to retaining some of the key players and recruits. I'm sure the idea will be pitched to the new coach.
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Roster turnover isn't always a bad thing, aina?
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Wojo was the main reason both came here, also heard Dawson is tight with the new Minnesota coach?
Maybe so, but they might feel different after seeing a year of Wojo "trying" to coach
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I believe the NCAA announced transfers will not have to sit a year because of COVID.
Its only for guys that have not already transferred. DJ transfers again, he sits. I don't really see that as a viable option. He may very well go pro, but can't see transferring again being a good option for DJ.
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Impressive. *So far* MU without a coach is doing better on the transfer front than BE schools that are retaining their coach.
All likely to change, but impressive so far.
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Also not sure if mentioned, Jaemyn Brakefield from duke is transferring, originally from WI.
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Impressive. *So far* MU without a coach is doing better on the transfer front than BE schools that are retaining their coach.
All likely to change, but impressive so far.
Scholl has all the players locked, handcuffed and muzzled in Guantanamo.
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Scholl has all the players locked, handcuffed and muzzled in Guantanamo.
Marquette - where player retention is far more than just platitudes.
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I think Moser would have a tough time hanging on to most of the roster (which doesn't matter if he's THE guy). Other coaches would probably keep more of the roster in tact (which doesn't matter if they aren't THE guy).
I think retaining Gainey would go a long way to retaining some of the key players and recruits. I'm sure the idea will be pitched to the new coach.
Why do you feel this way more so about Moser?
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Why do you feel this way more so about Moser?
I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.
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Why do you feel this way more so about Moser?
Players want to win.....Players want "culture".....
Butler would not even be an NBA player without Buzz.....Let alone star.....
Teaching .....skills, discipline, culture and winning are great recruiting and retention tools.....If kids want to "free-wheel" .....Have a decent college "scoring" career......Ignore "team".....and then make money in Europe.....That is their prerogative.....
It is not mistake that the players that have succeeded at the NBA grew substantially under Buzz and Moser has a "different" but the "same" skill set.....
Can you imagine what he could do for Garcia????
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I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.
I'd agree with that on Carton and Garcia. Though I could see him really liking Justin's methodical classic post game.
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Pitt's starting PF (Abdoul Karim Coulibaly - 5.2 points, 3.9 rebounds, 0.9 blocks per game) just entered the transfer portal, giving them 5 transfers this late season/offseason.
Factoring in that their best player (Justin Champagnie) is more than likely entering the draft, they have no 2021 signees, and one of their freshman big men was suspended indefinitely for stealing a car, they'll likely have at least 8 scholarships available for next year. Can't see Capel saving his job after next season, so he might as well send out a blast email to the 800+ transfers on the market - first 8 to respond make the team.
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It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible. And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre. Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.
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It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible. And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre. Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.
Might be that Killings was keeping it all together and had to talk several players into staying this season ;)
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Can you imagine what he could do for Garcia????
Sign his release paperwork?
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Might be that Killings was keeping it all together and had to talk several players into staying this season ;)
They are waiting just like us. The transfer portal is a cesspool this year. Need to know who the coach is before they can do anything.
Also really only 3-4 guys could play starter minutes next year at Power 6 schools in my opinion too.
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They are waiting just like us. The transfer portal is a cesspool this year. Need to know who the coach is before they can do anything.
Also really only 3-4 guys could play starter minutes next year at Power 6 schools in my opinion too.
I don't disagree, but that wasn't what I was responding to.
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I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.
The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.
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The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.
Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?
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Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?
Dawson wants to play in the NBA, not play a cam Krutwig 1970s big man role. That's not gonna keep him here if Moser comes.
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Dawson wants to play in the NBA, not play a cam Krutwig 1970s big man role. That's not gonna keep him here if Moser comes.
Cam’s body and lack of 3 point shooting is keeping him out of the NBA, not where he was playing.
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Cam’s body and lack of 3 point shooting is keeping him out of the NBA, not where he was playing.
Style of play is what is gonna keep DG at Marquette was more the point I am getting at. Moser's system and teh "cam krutwig role" likely isn't it.
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Sign his release paperwork?
But kinda not teal.
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Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal
https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21
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Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal
https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21
Old man yells at clouds!
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Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?
Dawson doesn't have the skills to do it. The only skill that is better than Krutwig is shooting.
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I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.
Especially Carton. A high turnover guard is not going to thrive under Moser.
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Dawson doesn't have the skills to do it. The only skill that is better than Krutwig is shooting.
To be fair, Freshman Dawson > Freshman Krutwig.
You're comparing a guy who's played 133 college games to one who's played 27.
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But kinda not teal.
Correct.
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Correct.
Gets at my concern that the level of recruits that would come into Moser's system won't be that different than what he gets at LUC right now. Sure, maybe we get a Krutwig every so often and it's a big hit. But that's been the big difference maker for his success vs not success.
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The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.
While there are some similarities between Nova and Loyola's systems, they are not the same. Wright also has a little more credibility than Moser does when it comes to getting guys into the NBA.
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Gets at my concern that the level of recruits that would come into Moser's system won't be that different than what he gets at LUC right now. Sure, maybe we get a Krutwig every so often and it's a big hit. But that's been the big difference maker for his success vs not success.
If Bill Scholl believes Moser is the guy, then you get him and deal with the roster fallout. But these players were recruited to play in an up-tempo, pro-style offense with a man defense that aims to stay in front of opponents in the half court. If Moser is the guy, I have zero doubt there will be departures. Significantly so.
Again, if Scholl thinks he's the guy, you accept those losses because you aren't building for one year, you're building for sustained success. But Moser will have to get his guys in and show to recruits how they fit in his system. Because right now there are people telling them Moser plays slow-down ball and won't help them get to the NBA, and that will resonate louder than anything you can tell them until they actually see the results at this level.
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To be fair, Freshman Dawson > Freshman Krutwig.
You're comparing a guy who's played 133 college games to one who's played 27.
Fair enough, but I am talking base skills. Freshman Krutwig was better at passing. court awareness, defensive positioning, and low post shooting than Dawson.
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Fair enough, but I am talking base skills. Freshman Krutwig was better at passing. court awareness, defensive positioning, and low post shooting than Dawson.
LOL
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Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal
https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21
Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team. You need to be bigger than yourself". The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short. Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.
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Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team. You need to be bigger than yourself". The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short. Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.
I hope he enjoyed trading his college career for a chance at the NBA. Smoking a ton of copium if that is what he believes.
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Greg really playing to his fan base on that one.
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LOL
Tell me where I am wrong.
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Tell me where I am wrong.
First off, they're totally different players. Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.
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First off, they're totally different players. Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.
beast sucks
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First off, they're totally different players. Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.
Huh?? Every player is a different player.
Level of competition and basketball skills are two completely different animals. Your comments have nothing to do with my original point.
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Has anyone mentioned Tyrese Hunter. Is he transferring or in the Transfer Portal with the Iowa State coaching change
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Has anyone mentioned Tyrese Hunter. Is he transferring or in the Transfer Portal with the Iowa State coaching change
Currently deciding. I'd say if we get Moser, he won't be coming here. If he reopens recruitment and we hire someone that runs a higher pace offense, he might consider us.
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Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal
https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21
Flood and Gard are getting roasted on Twitter for saying that. Even from Wisconsin fans.
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Huh?? Every player is a different player.
Level of competition and basketball skills are two completely different animals. Your comments have nothing to do with my original point.
Krutwig averaged 10.5/6/1.5 as a freshman on 60% 2P shooting against a mid major schedule.
Garcia averaged 13/7/1 on 53% 2P shooting against a Big East schedule.
Other than defensive position due to scheme, I don't think there is anything that freshman Krutwig did better than freshman Garcia, other than perhaps old school back to basket. The latter can score in more ways, rebounded better, and passed well all against tougher competition. He had double doubles against 3 tourney teams, and was a point away from a 4th.
Hards said they are different players because comparing them on the basis of low post scoring is apples to oranges when one doesnt play from the low post, and Marquette didn't use Garcia as a stationary passing big like Krutwig was used for Loyola.
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It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible. And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre. Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.
Maybe Scholl promised them that they would have a say on the new coach.
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Especially Carton. A high turnover guard is not going to thrive under Moser.
The real question is whether MU's turnover problem was due to bad coaching or bad players?
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Nope, dat wood neva happen, hey?
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Trevor Anderson of Wisconsin has entered the transfer portal.
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Trevor Anderson of Wisconsin has entered the transfer portal.
Moser gets him and the Hausers return to rebecome MU royalty and spite Wojo?
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Roster turnover isn't always a bad thing, aina?
word
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Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team. You need to be bigger than yourself". The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short. Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.
The Polar Bear should concentrate on that Dairy Queen franchise.
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Krutwig averaged 10.5/6/1.5 as a freshman on 60% 2P shooting against a mid major schedule.
Garcia averaged 13/7/1 on 53% 2P shooting against a Big East schedule.
Other than defensive position due to scheme, I don't think there is anything that freshman Krutwig did better than freshman Garcia, other than perhaps old school back to basket. The latter can score in more ways, rebounded better, and passed well all against tougher competition. He had double doubles against 3 tourney teams, and was a point away from a 4th.
Hards said they are different players because comparing them on the basis of low post scoring is apples to oranges when one doesnt play from the low post, and Marquette didn't use Garcia as a stationary passing big like Krutwig was used for Loyola.
But, Krutwig was a much bigger part of the sets that Moser runs. Everything went through the PG and Center.
You are right about comparing players. Garcia is a better shooter and floats around the perimeter much of the game. (Yes, that is Wojo's fault). Krutwig is involved almost every trip down the floor.
Prorated to 40 minutes a game, scoring would be even, Krutwig would lead in Rebounds, assists, and steals. TOs would be even.
Level of competition can't be quantified, but last weekend Krutwig was just dine against the ACC Champion and the #2 team in the country. Level of competition didn't change his level of play.
My post was not meant to slight Garcia, just pointing out how good Krutwig is. Will be Honorable Mention All-American as a senior. If Garcia stays that long, will he be an AA?
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Two former MU recruits entered the portal yesterday. Noah Locke from Florida and Jemarl Baker Jr from Arizona. The connection likely doesn't matter with the coaching change but would love adding either of them. Maybe if Gainey gets retained he can use his connection to Baker from Arizona.
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If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.
DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.
If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.
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If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.
DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.
If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.
I would be willing to wager this is an impossibility.
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If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.
DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.
If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.
I would wager this is near impossible.
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He gowne, hey?
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St John’s replaces Cole with Shooter who averaged 13 ppg last season.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278244/stef-smith
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1375482250649874444
Indiana freshman guard Khristian Lander entered the portal
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1375482250649874444
Indiana freshman guard Khristian Lander entered the portal
OH MAN. THat one is...oh man. IU has to be losign their minds.
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Koby is in the portal.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/n5GXsYKoe1F3eFcRgq/source.gif)
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Koby is in the portal.
The first to get out smarted?
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The first to get out smarted?
May not have enough room for a 25 year old, this isn't Wisconsin.
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May not have enough room for a 25 year old, this isn't Wisconsin.
That's fair. Maybe WI will pick him up, he barely meets their age requirements.
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The first to get out smarted?
I though no seniors were considering using their extra year? Maybe that was a wojo line. Mighty as well test the waters.
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So now Jamal and Koby are in the portal with Symir.
I hope they land in great spots. Nothing but the best for them
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A TON of COVID seniors are in the portal. At first I was surprised. Now, I think that it simply means that there's no downside to putting your name in the portal. If you are planning to go overseas or join the workforce anyway, why not put your name in the portal and see what kind of offers you can get? Maybe you get an offer you don't expect and decide to play another year. Worst thing that happens is you say no to a bunch of coaches and go do what you were going to do any way.
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A TON of COVID seniors are in the portal. At first I was surprised. Now, I think that it simply means that there's no downside to putting your name in the portal. If you are planning to go overseas or join the workforce anyway, why not put your name in the portal and see what kind of offers you can get? Maybe you get an offer you don't expect and decide to play another year. Worst thing that happens is you say no to a bunch of coaches and go do what you were going to do any way.
Plus Europe and Asia are a complete mess with COVID vaccines for the most part. Why not stay home one more year? Or at least hedge your bets.
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A TON of COVID seniors are in the portal. At first I was surprised. Now, I think that it simply means that there's no downside to putting your name in the portal. If you are planning to go overseas or join the workforce anyway, why not put your name in the portal and see what kind of offers you can get? Maybe you get an offer you don't expect and decide to play another year. Worst thing that happens is you say no to a bunch of coaches and go do what you were going to do any way.
Yes sir. Plus, it's hard to get a degree in 4 years, so this will give many a chance to do that. Or even a grad degree for some. All while on scholly and getting to play the game they love. Win-win.
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Yes sir. Plus, it's hard to get a degree in 4 years, so this will give many a chance to do that. Or even a grad degree for some. All while on scholly and getting to play the game they love. Win-win.
the biggest problem for them is many players were committed when the NCAA granted kids the additional year...kids who were going to be replaced by the committed kids. MU would be looking at 16 guys on scholarship if everyone came back and the signees came in. That's not going to work for either side.
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Plus Europe and Asia are a complete mess with COVID vaccines for the most part. Why not stay home one more year? Or at least hedge your bets.
This is a really good point. I think about soccer players having moves to Europe fall through because they can't secure work visas. Usually they just go back to their old club. But the challenges are likely similar here and there isn't their old job to go back to. Its one thing for players returning to their clubs they have been playing with. Its another to start fresh in the middle of this mess.
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Hoping we can get David Joplin. I’ve never seen him in person and it’s hard to tell in the highlights, but the kid seems very similar to Lewis.
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Hoping we can get David Joplin. I’ve never seen him in person and it’s hard to tell in the highlights, but the kid seems very similar to Lewis.
He's a good recruit. Definitely would fit the role we were looking at Kordell for. The fun part is--there's a ton in the transfer portal too. Tre Mitchell, Walker Kessler for bigs. Name a guard and they're there Lander, Baker, Fletcher, Nimari Burnett, Pinson, Kellan Grady. It goes on and on.
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He's a good recruit. Definitely would fit the role we were looking at Kordell for. The fun part is--there's a ton in the transfer portal too. Tre Mitchell, Walker Kessler for bigs. Name a guard and they're there Lander, Baker, Fletcher, Nimari Burnett, Pinson, Kellan Grady. It goes on and on.
Kordell also plays for the same AAU team as Texas’ top recruit Tamar Bates. Maybe there is a connection there. In any case, it’ll be an exciting few weeks to see what happens.
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it's hard to get a degree in 4 years
1. A lot of people go to school for 7 years years...
2. Most of the 4-year MUBB players meet graduation requirements before the fall semester of their senior year.
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1. A lot of people go to school for 7 years years...
2. Most of the 4-year MUBB players meet graduation requirements before the fall semester of their senior year.
"Yeah they're called doctors"
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Kordell also plays for the same AAU team as Texas’ top recruit Tamar Bates. Maybe there is a connection there. In any case, it’ll be an exciting few weeks to see what happens.
Good to know! I am pretty excited to see what happens on the commit/recruiting trails in the next few weeks.
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Yes sir. Plus, it's hard to get a degree in 4 years,
Not in hoops and football. SA's get 6-12 credits each summer, starting with the summer before initial enrollment.
If a kid takes 6-12 every summer that's 18. Then if he takes the NCAA eligibility minimum of 12 credits each semester (four years) he'll be able to easily graduate in four years.
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Can we snag Tanner Groves?
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Reuvers in the portal
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Reuvers in the portal
Let’s play guess the shade of red of Gard’s face
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Reuvers in the portal
figured he leave college. kinda shocked
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"Yeah they're called doctors"
Holy Shnikes!
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figured he leave college. kinda shocked
Very surprised about these 5th yr players in general
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Very surprised about these 5th yr players in general
I think a lot of them got firm handshakes at their respective schools thanking them for their time and entered the portal to see their options if there are any
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Very surprised about these 5th yr players in general
Surprised at what exactly? Why not change for a year and chase a National Championship if possible?
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Surprised at what exactly? Why not change for a year and chase a National Championship if possible?
I think it fine but do they have to take grad courses? I would take Coleman from Texas.
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I see UW just landed a transfer from UNLV. Surprised the Badgers took such a soft kid. Just enabling the kid's behavior to up and leave when the going gets tough.
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So now Jamal and Koby are in the portal with Symir.
I hope they land in great spots. Nothing but the best for them
Wonder if Akanno is next.
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Graduating from MU after changing Majors can take 5ish years.....I have 160 credits from our fine institution with a couple of minors.....Of course tuition was like 5 - 7 K at the time....
The doctor line is pretty funny though.....
Communications majors graduate in 4.....except for Farley.....and he could thank Dean Price.....Roman candles et al......
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I see UConn's Josh Carlton is in the transfer portal. Another graduating Senior with a 5th year availability.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1376516692403228676?s=20
Jake
@jakeweingarten
Furman transfer Noah Gurley tells @Stockrisers
he’s heard from Auburn, Xavier, Marquette, Maryland, Indiana, Tulsa, Virginia Tech, Texas A&M, Marshall, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Georgia, and St. John’s, since entering the portal last night.
Averaged 15.8 points and 5.8 boards per.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1376516692403228676?s=20
Jake
@jakeweingarten
Furman transfer Noah Gurley tells @Stockrisers
he’s heard from Auburn, Xavier, Marquette, Maryland, Indiana, Tulsa, Virginia Tech, Texas A&M, Marshall, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Georgia, and St. John’s, since entering the portal last night.
Averaged 15.8 points and 5.8 boards per.
Quick Scouting report on Gurley after watching this 2min youtube clip and checking Kenpom:
6'8" - played mostly the 5 at Furman this year but he's kind of a stretch big, not a traditional 5 by any means.
Had pretty solid shooting numbers on high usage. .578/.366/.689. 56.7eFG%, 110 Ortg on 26.4%Usg
Here's the youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijV871UkN08
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Kentucky gets Davidson’s Kellan Grady, one of the best transfers in the portal.
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Kentucky gets Davidson’s Kellan Grady, one of the best transfers in the portal.
Good for him.
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@GoodmanHoops: Toledo senior guard Marreon Jackson is in the transfer portal, the portal told me.
HUGE addition. One of the best mid-major players in the country.
Averaged 18.1 points, 6.1 rebounds and 5.9 assists this past season.
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@GoodmanHoops: Toledo senior guard Marreon Jackson is in the transfer portal, the portal told me.
HUGE addition. One of the best mid-major players in the country.
Averaged 18.1 points, 6.1 rebounds and 5.9 assists this past season.
This guy is a baller. Would love to sign him up.
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?year=2021&p=Marreon%20Jackson&t=Toledo
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MAC POY, kid is no joke.
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With 1,011 names in the transfer portal, we only need 16 more for a new all time record...the season hasn't ended yet.
Of course, there are hundreds of seniors in the portal thinking about using their COVID years that wouldn't have been there in past seasons so it's not an apples to apples comparison
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@jakeweingarten: Cincinnati transfer Tari Eason is coming off an AAC all-freshman season and is now in the transfer portal and has plenty of suitors. Eason talked UW, Wazzu, Pepperdine, & more with @Stockrisers.
Plus, he heard from new Marquette head coach Shaka Smart:
https://stockrisers.com/s/329/the-portal-an-update-on-tari-easons-transfer-recruitment
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Dumb question:
Is there a place that shows an up to date list of all who are in the transfer portal? I only see Sy listed for MU on the 247sports site.
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Dumb question:
Is there a place that shows an up to date list of all who are in the transfer portal? I only see Sy listed for MU on the 247sports site.
Not at all dumb. This seems like a solid resource: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/
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Dumb question:
Is there a place that shows an up to date list of all who are in the transfer portal? I only see Sy listed for MU on the 247sports site.
This is supposed to track the top 50 available transfers and recruits for next year: https://theathletic.com/2469325/2021/03/29/college-basketball-player-tracker-ranking-the-35-best-available-transfers-and-high-school-recruits/?source=user_shared_article
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Not at all dumb. This seems like a solid resource: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/
I'm pretty sure he was asking if there was another site (i.e., other than 247) because 247 lists Sy as the only transfer out of Marquette. So, it doesn't appear that it's up to date.
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Not at all dumb. This seems like a solid resource: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/
Jalen House 4* 0.9374 (HS)
Jamal Mashburn Jr. 3* 0.9337 (HS)
0.0037 difference between a 4* and 3*; what is the cut off number that separates a 4* from 3*.
Can someone explain what that (HS) number means.
Just basing on Symir's performance at MU doesn't give me much confidence in getting a player from the portal based on their ranking. A better measure would be their on the court stats.
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Question:
If a Big East player enters the portal, can he transfer to another Big East school or is there an internal Big East policy prohibiting it?
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Question:
If a Big East player enters the portal, can he transfer to another Big East school or is there an internal Big East policy prohibiting it?
My understanding is the Big East prohibits it but, and correct me someone else if I'm wrong, it's never been challenged the way the B1G's old similar policy was
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My understanding is the Big East prohibits it but, and correct me someone else if I'm wrong, it's never been challenged the way the B1G's old similar policy was
I was also thinking the Covid issue might be in play. Thats why I asked, no clue.
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Jalen House 4* 0.9374 (HS)
Jamal Mashburn Jr. 3* 0.9337 (HS)
0.0037 difference between a 4* and 3*; what is the cut off number that separates a 4* from 3*.
Can someone explain what that (HS) number means.
Just basing on Symir's performance at MU doesn't give me much confidence in getting a player from the portal based on their ranking. A better measure would be their on the court stats.
Here is the ratings explanation
https://247sports.com/Article/247Sports-Rating-Explanation-81574/
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Dumb question:
Is there a place that shows an up to date list of all who are in the transfer portal? I only see Sy listed for MU on the 247sports site.
https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021
This stays pretty up to date
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https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021
This stays pretty up to date
Thank you.
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but Green Bay has 9 players in the transfer portal.
Edit: Not to be outdone, UT Martin has 15 in the portal.
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Edit: Not to be outdone, UT Martin has 15 in the portal.
15? Do walk-on's have to use the transfer portal? How is this possible.
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Here is the ratings explanation
https://247sports.com/Article/247Sports-Rating-Explanation-81574/
Behind all the fancy stat talk and based on some of the comments there is still a subjective component to all this.
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This link sorts by conference, and lists PPG from this past season. I like it because it's easier to identify high major targets.
https://watchstadium.com/college-basketballs-2020-21-transfer-list-10-26-2020/
(https://watchstadium.com/college-basketballs-2020-21-transfer-list-10-26-2020/)
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https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021
This stays pretty up to date
Isn't everyone in the portal eligible to play next season?
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It has probably been covered here before, but does anyone know the implications on the player's housing, etc., when they enter the transfer portal? I would assume they don't get kicked to the curb by their current school, but maybe I'm wrong? Can they still use the workout facilities, dining facilities, etc.?
I only ask because that may explain some of the delay from any (non-senior) current players who are now looking to transfer with the coaching change - there might be more logistics to it than just throwing your name in the portal.
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It has probably been covered here before, but does anyone know the implications on the player's housing, etc., when they enter the transfer portal? I would assume they don't get kicked to the curb by their current school, but maybe I'm wrong? Can they still use the workout facilities, dining facilities, etc.?
Depends on the coach/situation. The telltale sign someone was leaving when Crean was here was they moved into Schroeder. Usually they lose most Al access, with the exception of the academic support area.
In really acrimonious endings they get told to fook off and their stuff gets held hostage in the Al. Eventually cooler heads prevail before heading back to Stevens Point for the summer.
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nm
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FS1 just listed some transfers on their ticker at the bottom of the screen. They listed a Transfer list of Rocket Watts, players from Kentucky, Utah, Miami and I Believe Colorado.
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FS1 just listed some transfers on their ticker at the bottom of the screen. They listed a Transfer list of Rocket Watts, players from Kentucky, Utah, Miami and I Believe Colorado.
No surprise you're a midday FS1 guy.
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Some have already committed to their new school. Do do they have to re-take all their spring semester classes at their new school? Have the athletes that are on the portal and have not committed to another school give up their scholarship and if so do they have to pay back the money for the entire year unless they stay and complete the course work?
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No surprise you're a midday FS1 guy.
Oh shiit I just spit out my coffee
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My guess is Albany, but Sy makes his decision tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/Syboogie10
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My guess is Albany, but Sy makes his decision tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/Syboogie10
Agreed. Think that will be a good landing spot for him.
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My guess is Albany, but Sy makes his decision tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/Syboogie10
Seems like it's either Albany or staying here.
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Shaka has reached out to Symir.
He's also heard from UMass, Siena, Albany, Wake Forest, South Carolina, Washington, South Florida and Murray State.
https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-South-Carolina-Marquette-Symir-Torrence-163350885/
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Shaka has reached out to Symir.
He's also heard from UMass, Siena, Albany, Wake Forest, South Carolina, Washington, South Florida and Murray State.
https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-South-Carolina-Marquette-Symir-Torrence-163350885/
I have seen enough of Symr, great teammate, just not a good baller. No jump shot, no hops, Shaka can do better. Let him go.
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defensively, symir fits what shaka wants. im with everyone else that wants a roster makeover, but after the big 3, symir is the one im fine having back. the skill level and iq is there, just needs to fix that damn jump shot.
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Isn't everyone in the portal eligible to play next season?
No. It is widely believed that the NCAA will pass some measures in April that will give every player one free transfer but those haven't passed yet. And if it does pass, players who have transferred previously (e.g. DJ Carton) will have to sit out. However, the NCAA may do another set of blanket waivers for COVID like they did this season.
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Some have already committed to their new school. Do do they have to re-take all their spring semester classes at their new school? Have the athletes that are on the portal and have not committed to another school give up their scholarship and if so do they have to pay back the money for the entire year unless they stay and complete the course work?
No to all of this. When a transfer commits they are committing for next season. They remain on scholarship at their current school and finish out their classes there. The transfer doesn't happen until the summer. Even when a player leaves mid-season (e.g. Ed Morrow) they can remain on campus and continue to take classes.
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defensively, symir fits what shaka wants. im with everyone else that wants a roster makeover, but after the big 3, symir is the one im fine having back. the skill level and iq is there, just needs to fix that damn jump shot.
I tend to agree. I think people are a little hard on Symir. He was only a sophomore. He lacked confidence from what I could tell. I think he can be a serviceable role player at worst and perhaps more if he grows in confidence in his role on the team. There’s nothing like an upperclassman. Teams need those type of upperclassman players. Moreover, at the very least he provides continuity.
If he goes, he goes. But I certainly wouldn’t be ushering him out the door and it seems Shaka isn’t either.
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Not sure if this was posted. Popped up on my phone on Sy.
https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-South-Carolina-Marquette-Symir-Torrence-163350885/
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I have seen enough of Symr, great teammate, just not a good baller. No jump shot, no hops, Shaka can do better. Let him go.
We're no longer trusting in Shaka?
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Wonder if Smart told Symir he'd be welcomed back but please decide quickly so MU doesn't lose time pursuing other guards.
I'm fine if Symir returns. He's at least a veteran guard that can supply depth. Maybe Shaka can coach him up.
If he moves on, I wish him nothing but the best. At least we'll know pretty quickly, so Shaka knows what to do with that spot.
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Wonder if Smart told Symir he'd be welcomed back but please decide quickly so MU doesn't lose time pursuing other guards.
I'm fine if Symir returns. He's at least a veteran guard that can supply depth. Maybe Shaka can coach him up.
If he moves on, I wish him nothing but the best. At least we'll know pretty quickly, so Shaka knows what to do with that spot.
My heart wants him to return and get another shot, but my head says thank you for your time and effort and good luck at your next school. I hardly saw anything in terms of redeemable qualities on court to warrant him returning and playing at BE level. Not trying to be harsh, just honest.
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No. It is widely believed that the NCAA will pass some measures in April that will give every player one free transfer but those haven't passed yet. And if it does pass, players who have transferred previously (e.g. DJ Carton) will have to sit out. However, the NCAA may do another set of blanket waivers for COVID like they did this season.
The D1 Council already stated if legislation does not pass for immediate eligibility for the first transfer they will issue a blanket waiver.
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here's a 4 star center from Chicago who put his name into the transfer portal this morning:
https://verbalcommits.com/players/martice-mitchell
https://gophersports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/martice-mitchell/18702
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Two huge Big East moves-Providence lands Al Durham, and one of the best names in basketball, Kobe Elvis, is leaving DePaul.
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Sy looks like he has no offensive game and his shot looks pretty broken. I kind of hope he’s encouraged to move on.
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Duke and former Columbia PF/C Patrick Tape is back in the portal.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1377013207127179265?s=21
Florida transfer Noah Locke tells ESPN he's heard from UNC, Kansas, Louisville, Providence, UConn, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, UCLA, Clemson, Oregon, Virginia, NC State, St. John's, Maryland, Illinois, Indiana, Marquette, OK State, Alabama & more.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1377013207127179265?s=21
Florida transfer Noah Locke tells ESPN he's heard from UNC, Kansas, Louisville, Providence, UConn, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, UCLA, Clemson, Oregon, Virginia, NC State, St. John's, Maryland, Illinois, Indiana, Marquette, OK State, Alabama & more.
That was one of my top transfer targets. Long line of suitors, as expected.
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Duke and former Columbia PF/C Patrick Tape is back in the portal.
The kid quit on his team at Columbia the week of the first game and averaged 1.1 PPG at Duke. No thanks.
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Both of the “big” Ivy League transfers were complete duds. Tape at Duke and then Seth Towns was a complete non factor at OSU, presumably not the same player post knee injury
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1377013207127179265?s=21
Florida transfer Noah Locke tells ESPN he's heard from UNC, Kansas, Louisville, Providence, UConn, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, UCLA, Clemson, Oregon, Virginia, NC State, St. John's, Maryland, Illinois, Indiana, Marquette, OK State, Alabama & more.
He is buddies with Justin, yes? I thought someone had mentioned that
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The kid quit on his team at Columbia the week of the first game and averaged 1.1 PPG at Duke. No thanks.
The week of the first game when they never played?
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Both of the “big” Ivy League transfers were complete duds. Tape at Duke and then Seth Towns was a complete non factor at OSU, presumably not the same player post knee injury
The Michigan PG I think is from Columbia.
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Two huge Big East moves-Providence lands Al Durham, and one of the best names in basketball, Kobe Elvis, is leaving DePaul.
How did I not know DePaul had a Kobe Elvis?? Sign him just based on the name alone
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He is buddies with Justin, yes? I thought someone had mentioned that
I know both are from Baltimore. How well they know each other, I'm not sure.
Edit: Both played summer ball with Team Melo. So I guess they probably know each other pretty well.
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How did I not know DePaul had a Kobe Elvis?? Sign him just based on the name alone
Thank you all for leaving me this...
Elvis had left the building!!!!
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The week of the first game when they never played?
2019-20, so he could grad transfer
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With 50 more names entering the portal today we have now surpassed 2020 as the most transfers in NCAA men's basketball history. It's March 30th.
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With 50 more names entering the portal today we have now surpassed 2020 as the most transfers in NCAA men's basketball history. It's March 30th.
I checked and could not keep up with all the names.
I believe Depaul now has 6 players in the portal and they have not even named a new coach.....
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I checked and could not keep up with all the names.
I believe Depaul now has 6 players in the portal and they have not even named a new coach.....
They picked the wrong season to do their normal DePaulesque coaching search.
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I checked and could not keep up with all the names.
I believe Depaul now has 6 players in the portal and* they have not even named a new coach.....
*Because?
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*Because?
Because if they'd named literally anybody by now they'd at least be recruiting the transfer portal and trying to hang onto the one or two players who are above average on that team
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I believe Depaul now has 6 players in the portal and they have not even named a new coach.....
Because if they'd named literally anybody by now they'd at least be recruiting the transfer portal and trying to hang onto the one or two players who are above average on that team
My point was that maybe "because" should be substituted for "and" in the original post. I see now that it looks like I was asking a question. My bad
I should have gone with the more traditional strike-out/FTFY approach. (i.e., "I believe Depaul now has 6 players in the portal andbecause they have not even named a new coach...")
And also because they're Depaul, of course.
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Symir announcing at noon today, per his Twitter but I'm not sure if he's in Milwaukee
or back in NY. So it could be either noon ET or CT.
My guess is either Albany or South Carolina. Outside chance he returns to MU.
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Symir announcing at noon today, per his Twitter but I'm not sure if he's in Milwaukee
or back in NY. So it could be either noon ET or CT.
My guess is either Albany or South Carolina. Outside chance he returns to MU.
Odd he still has the MU photo on his twitter
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Time to move on, Albany is the right choice. Need the scholarship for hopefully better players. Good luck young man.
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Time to move on, Albany is the right choice. Need the scholarship for hopefully better players. Good luck young man.
If Shaka wants him back, I would be happy to welcome him back.
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Time to move on, Albany is the right choice. Need the scholarship for hopefully better players. Good luck young man.
I don't know if I agree with this...We have 3 scholarships open (Jamal, Aidoo and Koby). That's with assuming that NO one else leaves which seems improbable. There is more than enough room for a guy like Symir on the roster this upcoming year.
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I don't know if I agree with this...We have 3 scholarships open (Jamal, Aidoo and Koby). That's with assuming that NO one else leaves which seems improbable. There is more than enough room for a guy like Symir on the roster this upcoming year.
Can not hit an open 3 as his shot is very flat. has no jumper, really is not that quick, and can not jump at all. Am I missing something? As a teammate he was great.
Yes, he will improve, but can you over recruit him, I say yes. Get Bates and he starts right away, and if Mitchell comes, he probably is better than Symir.
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Can not hit an open 3 as his shot is very flat. has no jumper, really is not that quick, and can not jump at all. Am I missing something? As a teammate he was great.
Yes, he will improve, but can you over recruit him, I say yes. Get Bates and he starts right away, and if Mitchell comes, he probably is better than Symir.
Agreed. Hope he can resurrect his career at a smaller program with less pressure. 2 years of pretty much nothing doesn't give me enough optimism. Great guy and hard worker deserves some playing time and confidence building with a new program.
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Can not hit an open 3 as his shot is very flat. has no jumper, really is not that quick, and can not jump at all. Am I missing something? As a teammate he was great.
Yes, he will improve, but can you over recruit him, I say yes. Get Bates and he starts right away, and if Mitchell comes, he probably is better than Symir.
Completely agree
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I'm fine if Symir stays and I'm fine if he goes. He hasn't shown a ton in two years, so it wouldn't be a huge loss.
If he stays, he can at least provide depth. Remembering the year Diener got injured and Joe Chapman, Dameon Mason, and point center Marcus Jackson had to run the offense, you can never have too many PGs.
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I would be quite happy if Symir changed his mind and would rather play for Coach Smart.
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I would be quite happy if Symir changed his mind and would rather play for Coach Smart.
In other words he need to make the Smart decision
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I'm fine if Symir stays and I'm fine if he goes. He hasn't shown a ton in two years, so it wouldn't be a huge loss.
If he stays, he can at least provide depth. Remembering the year Diener got injured and Joe Chapman, Dameon Mason, and point center Marcus Jackson had to run the offense, you can never have too many PGs.
That 47 point loss at L’ville on national tv was a horror film.
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Odd he still has the MU photo on his twitter
He no longer has the MU photo as his twitter photo.
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He no longer has the MU photo as his twitter photo.
Oh I checked yesterday and it was up. Guessing that's an indicator
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He no longer has the MU photo as his twitter photo.
I think I read somewhere that his goal is more playing time, so going elsewhere just makes sense. He was a role player for two years, and you can't really blame guys for wanting to be something more than a role player their entire collegiate career.
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I think I read somewhere that his goal is more playing time, so going elsewhere just makes sense. He was a role player for two years, and you can't really blame guys for wanting to be something more than a role player their entire collegiate career.
Honestly, Albany seems like a good fit for him on a lot of levels. I think he'd have a role on the team if he stayed, but I don't blame Sy for looking elsewhere. Nothing but well wishes for him from me.
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Symir to Syracuse.
Good luck, Sy.
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Symir to Syracuse.
Good luck, Sy.
Wow. I can't be the only one who's surprised they offered him
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Wow. I can't be the only one who's surprised they offered him
Definitely surprised.
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He will barely play there as well. Close to home, good choice.
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Cuse may lose a few guys in the coming week to 10 days.
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If Shaka wants him back, I would be happy to welcome him back.
For what we've seen from Sy, if Shaka wants him back, I'm worried about our new coaching hire.
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Good for him. Best of luck there.
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He will barely play there as well. Close to home, good choice.
Disagree. He has some length as a PG, so he will fit in well in their zone D. He can run their offense, and watch his shooting touch get better (with some good coaching).
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Did Syracuse offer him initially? I wish the best for Sy-Seemed like a great guy and a team favorite-He was a Wojo/Killings guy-the writing was on the wall as it probably is with a few others.
Just a very odd move for Cuse...I dont see how his performance at MU would have led them to offer him if they did not have enough interest to offer prior to MU....If its his dream to play for Cuse I am guessing they didnt offer initially?
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Did Syracuse offer him initially? I wish the best for Sy-Seemed like a great guy and a team favorite-He was a Wojo/Killings guy-the writing was on the wall as it probably is with a few others.
Just a very odd move for Cuse...I dont see how his performance at MU would have led them to offer him if they did not have enough interest to offer prior to MU....If its his dream to play for Cuse I am guessing they didnt offer initially?
247 shows an offer. Maybe they got a higher rated PG or something?
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Wow. I can't be the only one who's surprised they offered him
Great for him. I hope he does well. If you saw his Twitter thread, which I still cannot believe I did, I’m not surprised at all. Very pro-Syracuse.
I think people here are too hard on him given the circumstances he was in. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet.
Apparently Shaka and Boeheim see more in him than a sizeable portion of the MU Scoop community. Hmmm....
I would have been happy to have him back and I wish him the best going forward.
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Clearly Jim Boeheim and Shaka Smart lack some Scoopers' keen eye for talent.
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Wow. I can't be the only one who's surprised they offered him
You are not.
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Sy is a good kid. Wish him well. Nice place to land at Cuse - it was obvious from some tweets I saw that that he is a Cuse fan. Probably a dream come true.
Not sure he'll such much PT tho. In any event, wish him well!
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Apparently Shaka and Boeheim see more in him than a sizeable portion of the MU Scoop community. Hmmm....
I mean, Shaka sent him a text. I doubt he's too upset.
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Symir to Syracuse.
Good luck, Sy.
It'll be his first time playing in a system. I hope he blossoms.
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Great for him. I hope he does well. If you saw his Twitter thread, which I still cannot believe I did, I’m not surprised at all. Very pro-Syracuse.
I think people here are too hard on him given the circumstances he was in. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet.
Apparently Shaka and Boeheim see more in him than a sizeable portion of the MU Scoop community. Hmmm....
I would have been happy to have him back and I wish him the best going forward.
I mean I think he has a major upside. I also think I could've shot better from beyond the arc this past season and I haven't played basketball since 8th grade. Great D, great teammate, tries hard, I just think if Boeheim wants him he's basically going to have to either fix his shot or say "you are only allowed to drive"
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I mean I think he has a major upside. I also think I could've shot better from beyond the arc this past season and I haven't played basketball since 8th grade. Great D, great teammate, tries hard, I just think if Boeheim wants him he's basically going to have to either fix his shot or say "you are only allowed to drive"
Wojo ruined his shot because Wojo can’t teach shooting.
I’m kidding.
I hope he does well. Sometimes shooting is mechanical, sometimes it’s psychological, most of times it’s both.
Regardless, I hope he does well. No ill will and happy for him that he landed at his hometown big-time program. I’ll be rooting for him to excel there. And if he doesn’t, and he does just end up a role player, great for him that he got to do it at a school he apparently loves.
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Did Syracuse offer him initially? I wish the best for Sy-Seemed like a great guy and a team favorite-He was a Wojo/Killings guy-the writing was on the wall as it probably is with a few others.
Just a very odd move for Cuse...I dont see how his performance at MU would have led them to offer him if they did not have enough interest to offer prior to MU....If its his dream to play for Cuse I am guessing they didnt offer initially?
He was surely not a Wojo guy by the end of his tenure based on some of his tweets. Lots of subtweets against Wojo.
I hope he has success at Cuse. He seemed to have a decent shot his frosh year and it went away this year. That's something coaching and gym time can fix for sure.
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Good writeup on Torrence leaving and selecting Cuse.
https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/03/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-coming-home-will-play-basketball-for-orange.html
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Good writeup on Torrence leaving and selecting Cuse.
https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/03/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-coming-home-will-play-basketball-for-orange.html
Unsure if it's legit or if it's an excuse in his head but his explanation fits the narrative that Wojo's bench players played way too tight and were afraid to make mistakes
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The general belief on Scoop (including by me) was that Torrence would be best served by taking a step down, like Cohen and Carter and Cheatham did.
But Boeheim, who might know one or two things about basketball, is willing to give him a scholly and a shot. Sy also said he had heard from South Carolina, Wake Forest and Washington. And Shaka apparently wanted to keep him, and we've all talked non-stop about Shaka's recruiting chops.
As for Wojo ruining Sy's confidence by taking him out too soon ... frankly, there were times I thought Wojo left him in too long. We did not have a big margin for error, and Sy made too many mistakes. Plus, he couldn't shoot ... but he did hit a big 3 against UNC.
Anyhoo, I wish Sy good fortune at Cuse and beyond.
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Good writeup on Torrence leaving and selecting Cuse.
https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/03/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-coming-home-will-play-basketball-for-orange.html
Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake? I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?
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Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake? I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?
Yup
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Unsure if it's legit or if it's an excuse in his head but his explanation fits the narrative that Wojo's bench players played way too tight and were afraid to make mistakes
“ Settle down!!!!!! ”
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Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake? I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?
I believe all players get an extra year if they want. But I believe Symir would count against the 13 now that he’s transferred and was on MUs roster.
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Best of luck to Symir. I also am surprised he is headed to 'Cuse, but as MU82 mentioned, Boeheim seems to know a bit about the game. Maybe it'll be just the right environment for him to blossom.
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I don't know if I agree with this...We have 3 scholarships open (Jamal, Aidoo and Koby).
By my count we now have five scholarships open, and that assumes no one else leaves (Elliott, Perez, Carton, Akanno, Lewis, Ighodaro, Garcia, Jones, and Mitchell would be the eight scholarship players).
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By my count we now have five scholarships open, and that assumes no one else leaves (Elliott, Perez, Carton, Akanno, Lewis, Ighodaro, Garcia, Jones, and Mitchell would be the eight scholarship players).
Four open. You named 9 players.
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The general belief on Scoop (including by me) was that Torrence would be best served by taking a step down, like Cohen and Carter and Cheatham did.
But Boeheim, who might know one or two things about basketball, is willing to give him a scholly and a shot. Sy also said he had heard from South Carolina, Wake Forest and Washington. And Shaka apparently wanted to keep him, and we've all talked non-stop about Shaka's recruiting chops.
As for Wojo ruining Sy's confidence by taking him out too soon ... frankly, there were times I thought Wojo left him in too long. We did not have a big margin for error, and Sy made too many mistakes. Plus, he couldn't shoot ... but he did hit a big 3 against UNC.
Anyhoo, I wish Sy good fortune at Cuse and beyond.
I was surprised by the schools interested in Sy. Goes to show that other power conference coaches saw talent and traits they could work with. Wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a nice contributor at Syracuse.
Sy did not play well this season. He definitely looked like a kid that lost all confidence. A common theme in Wojo's tenure was a very short bench and lack of production from it (especially the 7,8,9 spots). I thought managing the bench and getting production from it was a major weakness of Wojo.
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I was surprised by the schools interested in Sy. Goes to show that other power conference coaches saw talent and traits they could work with. Wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a nice contributor at Syracuse.
Sy did not play well this season. He definitely looked like a kid that lost all confidence. A common theme in Wojo's tenure was a very short bench and lack of production from it (especially the 7,8,9 spots). I thought managing the bench and getting production from it was a major weakness of Wojo.
Which is why I am excited about Shaka. Big philosphy on getting the 10th and 11th players to feel as engaged and integral to the team as the 1st and 2nd. Definitely something he preaches and puts into practice.
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Very happy to hear he has chosen Syracuse. No need to debate if he should return or not. Any word on additional spots opening up?
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Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal
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Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal
Interesting. Depending on COVID years (Gillespie/Samuels) and NBA draft potential (JRE/Moore), Villanova could be anywhere from a final four favorite to a bubble team next season.
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Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal
I can't believe he was a top 40 recruit. Seems too slow to have been that highly regarded
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Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal
Can get hot from 3 but is a major defensive liability. When he was in the game, we went inside to Dawson repeatedly ... and Dawson scored repeatedly.
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I can't believe he was a top 40 recruit. Seems too slow to have been that highly regarded
On the other hand, 6'8" kids that have reputations as elite shooters - as Swider did coming out of high school - don't grow on trees.
Problem is, he hasn't proven to be a good enough shooter to make up for the other deficiencies in his game.
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*Because?
Maybe they really don't have a new AD.
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Many posters apparently had a negative impression of Sy based upon his very limited minutes at MU. It should be kept in mind, however, that the teams that are still playing at the Elite Eight don't lack for players that can handle the ball without kicking it off their feet, throw a crisp accurate pass and drive to the basket when the opportunity presents itself (and the coach allows it). There is no denying that his open 3 point shot was unacceptable, but Sy was/is only a Soph and "may" at least shoot acceptably in his remaining college career. I hope Stevie and Kam show up and are at least the ballhandlers and defenders Sy is. I also hope Shaka can attract other recruits/transfers that are being named which might have the potential to make us forget we had or need Sy's services.
Without naming names of current players on last year's roster, a successful team going forward will need more than a few highlight dunks or open three shooting streaks to be successful. (As much as all MU players are loved and appreciated, that was a bad team.) Sy has the tools to be successful playing in a rotation on a good team. If he somehow starts to hit a decent percentage of his open looks, we may miss him and he will show why he had 4* potential coming out of high school.
That having been said on Sy's behalf, good luck to him at Syracuse (Sy does have many tools to put him on a high major team), and very good luck to his MU replacement. Let's hope Shaka puts together a team that does not need Sy and will exceed the play of not only last year's MU team, but also exceeds the overall results of Syracuse and other high majors.
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Good to see your display of personal integrity by not naming names.
(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bKoGwyGahjsFIp6hgdjkEgHaCq&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300)
JK. Good luck to Sy. Seemed like a good teammate.
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Many posters apparently had a negative impression of Sy based upon his very limited minutes at MU. It should be kept in mind, however, that the teams that are still playing at the Elite Eight don't lack for players that can handle the ball without kicking it off their feet, throw a crisp accurate pass and drive to the basket when the opportunity presents itself (and the coach allows it). There is no denying that his open 3 point shot was unacceptable, but Sy was/is only a Soph and "may" at least shoot acceptably in his remaining college career. I hope Stevie and Kam show up and are at least the ballhandlers and defenders Sy is. I also hope Shaka can attract other recruits/transfers that are being named which might have the potential to make us forget we had or need Sy's services.
Sy's turnover rate of 22.8 percent was highest on the team among players who averaged more than 10 minutes per game (only Dexter and Oso were higher).
There may very well be a solid ballhandler in there somewhere, but we didn't see it last year.
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Many posters apparently had a negative impression of Sy based upon his very limited minutes at MU. It should be kept in mind, however, that the teams that are still playing at the Elite Eight don't lack for players that can handle the ball without kicking it off their feet, throw a crisp accurate pass and drive to the basket when the opportunity presents itself (and the coach allows it). There is no denying that his open 3 point shot was unacceptable, but Sy was/is only a Soph and "may" at least shoot acceptably in his remaining college career. I hope Stevie and Kam show up and are at least the ballhandlers and defenders Sy is. I also hope Shaka can attract other recruits/transfers that are being named which might have the potential to make us forget we had or need Sy's services.
Without naming names of current players on last year's roster, a successful team going forward will need more than a few highlight dunks or open three shooting streaks to be successful. (As much as all MU players are loved and appreciated, that was a bad team.) Sy has the tools to be successful playing in a rotation on a good team. If he somehow starts to hit a decent percentage of his open looks, we may miss him and he will show why he had 4* potential coming out of high school.
That having been said on Sy's behalf, good luck to him at Syracuse (Sy does have many tools to put him on a high major team), and very good luck to his MU replacement. Let's hope Shaka puts together a team that does not need Sy and will exceed the play of not only last year's MU team, but also exceeds the overall results of Syracuse and other high majors.
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Many posters apparently had a negative impression of Sy based upon his very limited minutes at MU. It should be kept in mind, however, that the teams that are still playing at the Elite Eight don't lack for players that can handle the ball without kicking it off their feet, throw a crisp accurate pass and drive to the basket when the opportunity presents itself (and the coach allows it). There is no denying that his open 3 point shot was unacceptable, but Sy was/is only a Soph and "may" at least shoot acceptably in his remaining college career. I hope Stevie and Kam show up and are at least the ballhandlers and defenders Sy is. I also hope Shaka can attract other recruits/transfers that are being named which might have the potential to make us forget we had or need Sy's services.
Without naming names of current players on last year's roster, a successful team going forward will need more than a few highlight dunks or open three shooting streaks to be successful. (As much as all MU players are loved and appreciated, that was a bad team.) Sy has the tools to be successful playing in a rotation on a good team. If he somehow starts to hit a decent percentage of his open looks, we may miss him and he will show why he had 4* potential coming out of high school.
That having been said on Sy's behalf, good luck to him at Syracuse (Sy does have many tools to put him on a high major team), and very good luck to his MU replacement. Let's hope Shaka puts together a team that does not need Sy and will exceed the play of not only last year's MU team, but also exceeds the overall results of Syracuse and other high majors.
I thought Sy would excellent at Marquette. But he didn't. He had two years to get on stage to show his stuff. It wasn't all that great. I wish him the best in the future.
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I was not trying to be cute not naming names, it is just that I didn't want to "attack" any past or present player as some returning players have built up reputations based upon the ability to do one or two things well while having gaping wholes in their games which other high major college players don't display. I hope all MU players reach their ceilings sooner rather than later, but even MU's present "stars" can show improvement. (And maybe Sy's potential ceiling is/was higher than most of last year's team.)
We all can be huge fans without expressly pointing out the negatives in individual players games. The errors and tendencies toward errors were there to be seen.
Just hope the new coaching staff can maximize the talents of the returning players and bring in more highly skilled players so that the overall results are more acceptable to the fan base. Better coaching and higher overall abilities seem needed going forward for more than a few players. Even our top three returning players (I don't think they need be named) need to get better. And although it may never be fully realized, I don't believe anyone on that team had a higher upside than Sy outside of the top three. A lot of outside names have been thrown around, but I certainly hope we are not in a position of "missing" someone like Sy in the next two or three years.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1377372755893555210
Boogie Ellis of Memphis has entered the portal. Notable due to his former 5 star status and his cool name
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It’s great that Sy has some decent handles, vision and passing but unless he develops himself into something of an offensive threat those talents are pretty worthless. I wish him nothing but the best.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1377372755893555210
Boogie Ellis of Memphis has entered the portal. Notable due to his former 5 star status and his cool name
I think Boogie would be a good fit here. Also, really like his name so a bonus.
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Creighton’s Christian Bishop now in the portal. Kinda surprised.
https://twitter.com/chris_bishop13/status/1377446561257512960?s=21
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Creighton’s Christian Bishop now in the portal. Kinda surprised.
https://twitter.com/chris_bishop13/status/1377446561257512960?s=21
not really. plantation stuff weighs on ya.
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not really. plantation stuff weighs on ya.
Yeah interestingly enough Zegarowski had to send out a tweet denying speculated intentions of him transferring.
https://twitter.com/mzegarowski1/status/1377350112448376832?s=21
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Creighton’s Christian Bishop now in the portal. Kinda surprised.
https://twitter.com/chris_bishop13/status/1377446561257512960?s=21
So he’s going off the.....
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Yeah interestingly enough Zegarowski had to send out a tweet denying speculated intentions of him transferring.
https://twitter.com/mzegarowski1/status/1377350112448376832?s=21
Well, if he changes his mind he can come play for Shaka.
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I like Bishop's energy. Obviously, I don't know who else Shaka is looking at, but I'd take Bishop.
Or aren't we allowed to accept other BEast schools' players? I'm pretty sure the ACC and a few other leagues no longer have that restriction.
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https://twitter.com/JamieShaw5/status/1377362995219550208
Jamie Shaw
@JamieShaw5
Since putting his name in the portal Eastern Kentucky transfer TRE KING has been offered by Georgetown, Xavier & Va Tech
He’s also heard from Marquette, Vandy, Georgia, East Carolina, Pittsburgh & South Alabama
The 6-foot-9/225 junior avg 14.9 points & 6.2 rebounds last season
Put up big numbers against mostly bad competition. He does have experience scoring on Big East defenses. He hung 25 points, 13 rebounds, 1 block, and 4 steals on 8/16 shooting on Xavier earlier this season.
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List of Transfer Marquette has had some communication with
Tyler Kolek- 6'3" - George Mason
Wendell Green Jr. - 5'11" - Eastern Kentucky
Emmitt Matthews Jr. - 6'7"- West Virginia
Tre King- 6'9"- Eastern Kentucky
Adonis Arms - 6'6"- Winthrop
Noah Gurley- 6'8"- Furman
Noah Locke- 6'3" - Florida
Brandon McKissic- 6'3" - UMKC
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List of Transfer Marquette has had some communication with
Tyler Kolek- 6'3" - George Mason
Wendell Green Jr. - 5'11" - Eastern Kentucky
Emmitt Matthews Jr. - 6'7"- West Virginia
Tre King- 6'9"- Eastern Kentucky
Adonis Arms - 6'6"- Winthrop
Noah Gurley- 6'8"- Furman
Noah Locke- 6'3" - Florida
Brandon McKissic- 6'3" - UMKC
That is a great name.
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Maybe a dumb question but are there expectations for when the transfer market will really heat up? Or more an expectation that guys picking new teams will be more of a slow trickle?
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Uncharted waters.
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Maybe a dumb question but are there expectations for when the transfer market will really heat up? Or more an expectation that guys picking new teams will be more of a slow trickle?
There were expectations that DJ Carton would be one of the certain ones out of town at seasons end...
There were expectations that very few coaches would be fired in this odd Covid season and that the coaching carousel would be very quiet...
Expect the unexpected
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List of Transfer Marquette has had some communication with
Tyler Kolek- 6'3" - George Mason
Wendell Green Jr. - 5'11" - Eastern Kentucky
Emmitt Matthews Jr. - 6'7"- West Virginia
Tre King- 6'9"- Eastern Kentucky
Adonis Arms - 6'6"- Winthrop
Noah Gurley- 6'8"- Furman
Noah Locke- 6'3" - Florida
Brandon McKissic- 6'3" - UMKC
Add Tari Eason - 6'8" - Cincinnati
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List of Transfer Marquette has had some communication with
Tyler Kolek- 6'3" - George Mason
Wendell Green Jr. - 5'11" - Eastern Kentucky
Emmitt Matthews Jr. - 6'7"- West Virginia
Tre King- 6'9"- Eastern Kentucky
Adonis Arms - 6'6"- Winthrop
Noah Gurley- 6'8"- Furman
Noah Locke- 6'3" - Florida
Brandon McKissic- 6'3" - UMKC
I think Brandon McKissic is out
https://twitter.com/JacobPolacheck/status/1376238645699567617?s=20
UMKC transfer Brandon McKissic confirms he will be making his college decision sometime within the next week.
Finalists: Kansas, Oregon State, Florida, Saint Louis, Missouri and Kansas State.
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I think Brandon McKissic is out
https://twitter.com/JacobPolacheck/status/1376238645699567617?s=20
UMKC transfer Brandon McKissic confirms he will be making his college decision sometime within the next week.
Finalists: Kansas, Oregon State, Florida, Saint Louis, Missouri and Kansas State.
Brandon's cousin is Jordan Goodwin from SLU. Brandon is trying to get him to come back for one more year. Chis Hollender, (Cuonzo Martin assistant) recruited him to UMKC so there are a few, long term, close relationships to overcome there. Others are random. Some of the others have less connections but have impressed him with their effort. (Mike White)
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This should be a very interesting off season for sure. When dominoes start to fall, I imagine they will fall quickly.
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This should be a very interesting off season for sure. When dominoes start to fall, I imagine they will fall quickly.
It will also be interesting to see how many have entered the portal but will stay at their current school (assuming they didn't burn bridges with their current coach). The new rule will essentially lets kids get re-recruited every year (or at least until they actually transfer once).
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It will also be interesting to see how many have entered the portal but will stay at their current school (assuming they didn't burn bridges with their current coach). The new rule will essentially lets kids get re-recruited every year (or at least until they actually transfer once).
I certainly do not envy coaches this off season. This is essentially like recruiting two or more years of high school seniors in a couple week period.
I really wonder what sort of impact this off season will have on team cohesion.
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It will also be interesting to see how many have entered the portal but will stay at their current school (assuming they didn't burn bridges with their current coach). The new rule will essentially lets kids get re-recruited every year (or at least until they actually transfer once).
I've wondered this as well. Once you put your name in the portal the school doesn't have to take you back so you could easily see your spot taken should you want to return.
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I've wondered this as well. Once you put your name in the portal the school doesn't have to take you back so you could easily see your spot taken should you want to return.
The school doesn't have to take you back anyway right?
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The school doesn't have to take you back anyway right?
It’s up to internal policy. Some may have the option, some may say “you better hope you find a new home.”
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The school doesn't have to take you back anyway right?
Right.
But it would eliminate potential 'bad optics' for the school if they can say the player was in the portal so they assumed it was his choice to leave.
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There were expectations that DJ Carton would be one of the certain ones out of town at seasons end...
There were expectations that very few coaches would be fired in this odd Covid season and that the coaching carousel would be very quiet...
Expect the unexpected
You got that right, Doc V! Gonna be a kuh-ray-zee spring! In many ways, it already has been, but it's gonna be exciting to see what kind of roster Shaka builds. So glad MU honchos didn't dilly-dally.
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Texas Tech guard Kyler Edwards hitting the portal.
The first of several Red Raiders, perhaps.
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It’s up to internal policy. Some may have the option, some may say “you better hope you find a new home.”
OK, now that Symir was chosen by Syracuse does he have to repeat his spring semester there or could he finish up here when the semester ends; or does nobody care.
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OK, now that Symir was chosen by Syracuse does he have to repeat his spring semester there or could he finish up here when the semester ends; or does nobody care.
He will finish here.
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He will finish here.
Glad to hear it. Is that true for all the players on the portal; finishing up their courses at their current school?
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Glad to hear it. Is that true for all the players on the portal; finishing up their courses at their current school?
I think that is the standard. I believe it’s an APR hit if they transfer and don’t leave in good academic standing.
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Iowa St and Oakland U recruiting Jamal Cain.
https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1377639027562663936?s=19
(https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1377639027562663936?s=19)
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I think that is the standard. I believe it’s an APR hit if they transfer and don’t leave in good academic standing.
it's an APR hit if a player transfers foto a four year school and has under a 2.6. And, any transfer has to pass 6 credits for the semester/18 for the fall and spring combined, to be eligible at their new institution.
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St Johns gets Aaron Wheeler from Purdue. South Alabama has already signed 6 guys from the transfer portal
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You got that right, Doc V! Gonna be a kuh-ray-zee spring! In many ways, it already has been, but it's gonna be exciting to see what kind of roster Shaka builds. So glad MU honchos didn't dilly-dally.
Maybe it’s just the no chill in my personality, but I’m beginning to get a bit concerned that we haven’t heard a peep in Dawson and Justin Lewis.
I was hoping we would hear something in the positive in the first few days so that Shaka can get on with the rest of if, but nothing yet.
I know these things take time and hopefully they both stay
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Maybe it’s just the no chill in my personality, but I’m beginning to get a bit concerned that we haven’t heard a peep in Dawson and Justin Lewis.
I was hoping we would hear something in the positive in the first few days so that Shaka can get on with the rest of if, but nothing yet.
I know these things take time and hopefully they both stay
I guess for me, no news is good news. They technically don’t have to say they are saying. So the fact they haven’t gone into the portal yet gives me optimism.
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Iowa St and Oakland U recruiting Jamal Cain.
https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1377639027562663936?s=19
(https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1377639027562663936?s=19)
Iowa State recruiting a Marquette transfer is a given isn’t it? I assumed as soon as an MU player announced he is transferring, an automated letter/email gets sent to him from Iowa State
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Maybe it’s just the no chill in my personality, but I’m beginning to get a bit concerned that we haven’t heard a peep in Dawson and Justin Lewis.
I was hoping we would hear something in the positive in the first few days so that Shaka can get on with the rest of if, but nothing yet.
I know these things take time and hopefully they both stay
Justin "liked" DJ's tweet on Shaka's introduction day that said "Welcome to MU! Let's get to work!".
So...I'm guessing he's also a big fan of the hire.
I'm almost certain Dawson was Karley Marrota's source on the "The hire has been awesome news here, Shaka recruited a couple of us in high school (Texas was his first college offer). The guys are really fired up" tweet the day the news came out.
So I feel confident all three are happy with it. However, you would've thought that you'd hear SOMETHING at some point this week. Hopefully Shaka was able to see Dawson in Minnesota and re-establish that connection.
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Is every off season going to be like this?
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Bishop is leaving Creighton.
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Is every off season going to be like this?
I would guess they won't be THIS intense. First, I think Covid meant a lot of players had less than a stellar experience and they want to move on. Second, if the NCAA allows one waiver free transfer, but every other transfer means taking a year off, a bunch of players will only transfer once. This year is just a free for all.
That being said, player movement is going to happen as a matter of course.
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
That IS good news, PW. Thanks for sharing.
Keeping Mitchell is huge, and I love his optimism on Aidoo.
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
Excellent on a number of fronts.
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
Very good news.
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It's still there.
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It's still there.
Its back now, my computer hates me.
Looks like its the same article that was posted in the other recruiting thread. Good to hear.
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Its back now, my computer hates me.
Looks like its the same article that was posted in the other recruiting thread. Good to hear.
Must be a Dell.
(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.joXbysdW3TKUOrHqJPmB9wHaFj&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300)
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Mc Cabe to UNLV
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Its back now, my computer hates me.
That reminds me of this "The Onion" classic....
https://www.theonion.com/my-computer-totally-hates-me-vs-god-do-i-hate-that-b-1819594270 (https://www.theonion.com/my-computer-totally-hates-me-vs-god-do-i-hate-that-b-1819594270)
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good news...
https://twitter.com/MDrago59/status/1377685392380542976
Mitchell was part of a recruiting class that includes Kameron Jones and Jonas Aidoo. Like Mitchell, Jones has not de-committed. Aidoo never signed a letter of intent and re-opened his recruiting after Wojciechowski was fired.
“We can still possibly get him,” Mitchell said of Aidoo.
Mitchell said he has spoken to Jones and feels he will stay with Marquette.
Shows that Shaka did, indeed, reach out to players as soon as he was hired. We had people on board wondering if he had done so.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1377731334588731393
Illinois freshman Adam Miller has entered the portal. That’s a pretty big deal
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1377731334588731393
Illinois freshman Adam Miller has entered the portal. That’s a pretty big deal
Wow. He'll have plenty of interest.
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He would certainly solve Marquette’s problem of not having a shooter...
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He would certainly solve Marquette’s problem of not having a shooter...
His potential is there but he didnt exactly light it up from deep.
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They're fleeing St. John's
@John_Fanta: Breaking: St. John’s guard Rasheem Dunn is entering the transfer portal. He is the 7th Red Storm player to enter the portal in the last 17 days, and will use his sixth year of eligibility elsewhere. #SJUBB
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They're fleeing St. John's
@John_Fanta: Breaking: St. John’s guard Rasheem Dunn is entering the transfer portal. He is the 7th Red Storm player to enter the portal in the last 17 days, and will use his sixth year of eligibility elsewhere. #SJUBB
Maybe he wants to go back to Cleveland State with Dennis Gates ....
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They're fleeing St. John's
@John_Fanta: Breaking: St. John’s guard Rasheem Dunn is entering the transfer portal. He is the 7th Red Storm player to enter the portal in the last 17 days, and will use his sixth year of eligibility elsewhere. #SJUBB
this unheard of with a returning coach. wtf is going on
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St. Porto Johns
How can no one succeed there? It's even more baffling than DePaul.
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It’s funny how quickly the tides seem to turn. Just a couple of weeks ago, we looked like we were on the verge of falling off the map and SJU was on an upswing.
Now we have a new coach, most of our best players apparently coming back and a very optimistic fanbase. SJU, on the other hand, appears to have the bottom dropping out after a very quick end to its once promising season.
Interesting.
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this unheard of with a returning coach. wtf is going on
Not really. Jeff Capel lost like 9 guys to transfer a year or two ago and that was before insta-transfers
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Not really. Jeff Capel lost like 9 guys to transfer a year or two ago and that was before insta-transfers
cool 7 guys leaving isnt odd to u
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cool 7 guys leaving isnt odd to u
They have 3 recruits coming in and 1 transfer so far.
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cool 7 guys leaving isnt odd to u
It's odd, just not unheard of for the old world order. I think with insta-transfers it will become a pretty regular occurence.
Also, I looked it up, I was off by a few. It was 6 transfers for Capel, not 9.
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Maybe he wants to go back to Cleveland State with Dennis Gates ....
Well, look at the sunny side; at least they all did not transfer mid-semester.
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It’s funny how quickly the tides seem to turn. Just a couple of weeks ago, we looked like we were on the verge of falling off the map and SJU was on an upswing.
Now we have a new coach, most of our best players apparently coming back and a very optimistic fanbase. SJU, on the other hand, appears to have the bottom dropping out after a very quick end to its once promising season.
Interesting.
....that could be Marquette or any team next season. Just think about it and if it happens mid-term that would even been more devastating. Can you imagine if the Hausers left in December?
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Marcus Santos-Silva would be a nice addition to the frontline.
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It’s funny how quickly the tides seem to turn. Just a couple of weeks ago, we looked like we were on the verge of falling off the map and SJU was on an upswing.
BE Coach of the Year Mike Anderson! And comments like this:
St Johns will be in the top of the BigEast for a long time while we continue to dwell in mediocrity at best.
But really - it is concerning how many guys are leaving. Maybe he'll be able to backfill with 'his' type of guys. We'll see.
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I wonder if playing his style of defense was too much work and they're transferring as a result.
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Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
There was a jealousy factor, I'm told, of the attention the New York guys received with certain players who have left St. John's. #sjubb
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Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
There was a jealousy factor, I'm told, of the attention the New York guys received with certain players who have left St. John's. #sjubb
Didn’t realize Len Elmore was coaching them.
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Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
There was a jealousy factor, I'm told, of the attention the New York guys received with certain players who have left St. John's. #sjubb
Shouldn’t Mike Anderson be held accountable for that or no?
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LOL
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Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
There was a jealousy factor, I'm told, of the attention the New York guys received with certain players who have left St. John's. #sjubb
I shouldn't have switched to decaf. What does this even mean? Can someone translate?
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https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/basketball/tamar-bates-decommitment-texas-geico-nationals
Bates backed out of heading to Austin when Shaka Smart left to take the head coaching job at Marquette.
“For me it was pretty simple,” Bates said. “I committed to Coach Smart, not Texas. So when he left I knew I would have to look at my options.”
So far, Bates has heard from Marquette, Gonzaga, Illinois, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky and Washington.
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I shouldn't have switched to decaf. What does this even mean? Can someone translate?
"Outsiders" felt the New York players got more than their fair share of the attention.
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Brandon's cousin is Jordan Goodwin from SLU. Brandon is trying to get him to come back for one more year. Chis Hollender, (Cuonzo Martin assistant) recruited him to UMKC so there are a few, long term, close relationships to overcome there. Others are random. Some of the others have less connections but have impressed him with their effort. (Mike White)
Brandon committed to Florida today.
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They have 3 recruits coming in and 1 transfer so far.
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Two transfers now.
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Great news on the MU recruits. Love what I see from Mitchell and seems Jones has been on the rise as well. Would still be very nice to get Aidoo. Maybe the current guys can help out with recruiting since it seems Stevie/Kam may be talking with him too.
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That is a great name.
Agreed.
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https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/basketball/tamar-bates-decommitment-texas-geico-nationals
This sounds promising.
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Get Bates in a Marquette uni.
Immediately.
:)
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Get Bates in a Marquette uni.
We can even let him rename his dorm the "Bates Motel"!
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Get Bates in a Marquette uni.
Immediately.
:)
He's absolutely electric. Get a little strength on that frame and he's everything we thought JJJ would be and more
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Watched Bates’ game today. He just had an okay game (about 10 points) and his team lost so his season is officially over. He’s pretty lengthy but definitely needs to get stronger. He was also about the 3rd or 4th option on his team so it was hard to tell. High level game.
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We can even let him rename his dorm the "Bates Motel"!
To appeal to his parents and grandparents?
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Furman transfer Noah Gurley listing his top 10 "soon"
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Didn’t realize Len Elmore was coaching them.
Outstanding!
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Brady Manek. Interesting player
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We can even let him rename his dorm the "Bates Motel"!
...better stay out the showers!
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According to Zags Blog, Marquette has reached out to Texas Tech transfer Marcus Santos-Silva.
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According to Zags Blog, Marquette has reached out to Texas Tech transfer Marcus Santos-Silva.
Got to believe given our mins available and shakas track record of developing big men that we should have a good shot of landing an impactful player
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According to Zags Blog, Marquette has reached out to Texas Tech transfer Marcus Santos-Silva.
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Interesting transfer, was at VCU initially, they will have something in common
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According to Zags Blog, Marquette has reached out to Texas Tech transfer Marcus Santos-Silva.
One year later...I'm still in
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Cole Swider transferring from Nova, some varied options for his services
https://twitter.com/mhershgordon/status/1378038946190491652?s=21
Also, ;D ;D ;D at saying ECU “stepped it up”. Inspired by this, I have also “stepped it up” in my attempts to woo Dua Lipa via Instagram DMs
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Cole Swider transferring from Nova, some varied options for his services
https://twitter.com/mhershgordon/status/1378038946190491652?s=21
Also, ;D ;D ;D at saying ECU “stepped it up”. Inspired by this, I have also “stepped it up” in my attempts to woo Dua Lipa via Instagram DMs
I give you a slightly better chance of success than ECU....
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https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1378139060267540484?s=21
Cain will announce tomorrow at 2.
Us, Iowa State, and Oakland
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https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1378139060267540484?s=21
Cain will announce tomorrow at 2.
Us, Iowa State, and Oakland
Jamal grew an inch. They are reporting him as 6-8
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Jamal grew an inch. They are reporting him as 6-8
Maybe some warm weather for Jamal. Seems like we came at him after some talks with other schools. But I hope he picks MU
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https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/1378139060267540484?s=21
Cain will announce tomorrow at 2.
Us, Iowa State, and Oakland
We are just a throw in name to make his list look better, so I don't like the fact that we are listed here. Iowa State is coming off probably their worst season in program history, so I'm not sure that's the best fit for Jamal if they are looking to rebuild. Oakland has a young team and I think he could be more a leader there.
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Maybe some warm weather for Jamal. Seems like we came at him after some talks with other schools. But I hope he picks MU
Oakland is in Detroit.
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Oakland is in Detroit.
And the Bay Area isn’t exactly balmy either
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Marquette tends to list player heights low while Wisconsin adds inches to their players.
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Oakland is in Detroit.
Ah lol. Never mind! Back to MU ( or does he want to go home) hmmm
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Marquette tends to list player heights low while Wisconsin adds inches to their players.
That is a good observation. For example,Steven Crowl went from being 6-9 to 7-0 for the Badgers
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Per Andrew Slater 6’8” sophomore Karim Coulibaly, who started 20 games for Pitt, will transfer to St. Bonaventure over Georgetown, Arizona St, Wichita St, Butler, VCU, GW, Marshall & Bradley. The defensive standout from Mali averaged 5.2 points & 3.9 rebounds. #Bonnies 🇲🇱
👩🎨 @brandondorf5
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Xavier transfer Jason Carter is heading back to Ohio University, he told @stadium. Played his first few seasons at Ohio U.
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Xavier transfer Jason Carter is heading back to Ohio University, he told @stadium. Played his first few seasons at Ohio U.
Ok but can we get that Kunnkle kid to transfer now too? Gee dang.
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I would like to hear your thoughts on how the expected change in transfer rules will affect Marquette. Are we likely to gain more than we lose? Even after deducting the transfers taking advantage of the covid senior extension offer and those who held back because of the sit out regs (this may partially account for the huge flood of transfers this year), there would still be a ton of transfers going forward. It's just the way it is, or rather- will be.
I'm guessing and hoping that it will work in our favor, at least short term. The publicity Marquette got for hiring Shaka and his personality and image as a major coach should help us. If a team/coach is successful AND the coach is very likable/approachable, hey- every little bit helps. Also, some players simply want to play for a black coach. Again- I think its just the way it is sometimes.
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1378361184487931908
Qudus Wahab to Maryland
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1378361184487931908
Qudus Wahab to Maryland
At least he'll be able to commute!
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In a span of 10 days, Turgeon went from possibly leaving town to landing a very good center and a very good point guard and will be one of the best teams in America next season.
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That is a good observation. For example,Steven Crowl went from being 6-9 to 7-0 for the Badgers
Are you saying UW supplements its players with growth hormones?
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Per Andrew Slater 6’8” sophomore Karim Coulibaly, who started 20 games for Pitt, will transfer to St. Bonaventure
I heard that centers who transfer into the Bonnies need to master an affected African American accent
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I heard that centers who transfer into the Bonnies need to master an affected African American accent
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/h5oTZKVOzn9SutWU2G/200.gif)
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Cain to Oakland.
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Close to home and gets to play in front of family. Good luck Jamal.
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I stood next to Dwyane once and i swear he's no taller than 6-2. It gets confusing because once the game started he played like he was 7-5.
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Close to home and gets to play in front of family. Good luck Jamal.
Ye. Good luck as well. Wonder if Greg might be swayed?
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Was told today to expect both Antwann Jones and Shareef Mitchell to transfer out of Creighton due to Mac's comments. Jones was expected due to PT this year, but Mitchell was coming on and was set up for a big role next season. At this point nothing would surprise me with Creighton.
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Was told today to expect both Antwann Jones and Shareef Mitchell to transfer out of Creighton due to Mac's comments. Jones was expected due to PT this year, but Mitchell was coming on and was set up for a big role next season. At this point nothing would surprise me with Creighton.
Disappointing news for The Big East.
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Ye. Good luck as well. Wonder if Greg might be swayed?
Depends what Greg wants. Would he be a starter and/or get primo minutes at Oakland? If so, would that, and his friendship with Cain, be enough to lure him from a role as an instant-offense bench player at the only P6 school he has known? Would Shaka even want him in that role?
Lots of questions, not enough answers yet.
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Normally I would want Greg to stay, but with this young team next year, let him go as well and start building his own team. Greg would not fit his style on D as he lost his quickness due to injuries.
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I would LOVE to see Greg back...but only if he and Shaka agree upon a role they are both comfortable with, whatever that may be. Great kid, high energy. I hope they can work it out.
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David Joplin decommitted from Texas
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David Joplin decommitted from Texas
Just saw that. It would be great if he follows Shaka to MU.
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I would LOVE to see Greg back...but only if he and Shaka agree upon a role they are both comfortable with, whatever that may be. Great kid, high energy. I hope they can work it out.
Totally agree. I think Greg is the type of player who could have dramatically more impact with a role that makes use of his abilities better.
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David Joplin decommitted from Texas
Interesting timing with the Cain announcement.
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Just saw that. It would be great if he follows Shaka to MU.
Agree Hope David Joplin Comes To Marquette
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#donedeal3, aina?
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Ye. Good luck as well. Wonder if Greg might be swayed?
Wish he would have stayed at MU, but being close to home is a nice freebie that you can't blame him for. Hope he does well.
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Marquette is in the final 8 for Furman transfer Noah Gurley. Gurley played the 4/5 for Furman and was rated #2 in the SoCon Player of the Year ratings by kenpom, which is one of the better mid-majors.
Finalists include Auburn, Florida, Alabama, San Diego State, Duke, Tennessee, Miami, and of course Marquette. He will have Zoom meetings with all 8 this week and commit next Sunday.
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We ready for another guard named DJ?
DJ Horne, 6'1", from Illinois State. Averaged 15.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg and 2.7 apg and shot 42.4 percent from three.
@jakelieberman2: DJ Horne (@djhorne0) is now hearing from Davidson, FGCU, Marquette, and Colorado, he tells me. Also, UNCC, UNCW, Murray State, Arizona State, Elon, New Mexico, USF, NC A&T, Charleston, ECU, Northeastern, among others have contacted him since entering the portal.
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Montez Mathias from Rutgers is transferring.
If I recall correctly, Wojo was in his final 4 or 6 maybe?
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We ready for another guard named DJ?
DJ Horne, 6'1", from Illinois State. Averaged 15.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg and 2.7 apg and shot 42.4 percent from three.
@jakelieberman2: DJ Horne (@djhorne0) is now hearing from Davidson, FGCU, Marquette, and Colorado, he tells me. Also, UNCC, UNCW, Murray State, Arizona State, Elon, New Mexico, USF, NC A&T, Charleston, ECU, Northeastern, among others have contacted him since entering the portal.
Also highly ranked in steal percentage nationally. Big change in philosophy there.
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Also highly ranked in steal percentage nationally. Big change in philosophy there.
I just got chills reading this. #JosephChartouny
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Big week for Shaka and Marquette. Would love to hear some great news - and lots of it - this week!
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Was told today to expect both Antwann Jones and Shareef Mitchell to transfer out of Creighton due to Mac's comments. Jones was expected due to PT this year, but Mitchell was coming on and was set up for a big role next season. At this point nothing would surprise me with Creighton.
So do you think McDermott will be gone soon, if that is the reason they left?
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I just got chills reading this. #JosephChartouny
The article from the blogs talking about why Wojo should be fired covered this already. Chartouny was brought into a system and taught to play against his instincts and away from his skills to fit the EFG% defense Wojo ran. Square peg, round hole. Shaka is a lot more flexible. I would put aside these nightmares (for now).
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The article from the blogs talking about why Wojo should be fired covered this already. Chartouny was brought into a system and taught to play against his instincts and away from his skills to fit the EFG% defense Wojo ran. Square peg, round hole. Shaka is a lot more flexible. I would put aside these nightmares (for now).
Haha I know. I just won't soon forget that Chartouny was a steals savant at Fordham, only to become one of the most underwhelming transfers in NCAA history.
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Haha I know. I just won't soon forget that Chartouny was a steals savant at Fordham, only to become one of the most underwhelming transfers in NCAA history.
It was brutal, but honestly not his fault. I couldn't imagine burning my last year only for a guy to keep doing the same thing over and over again with the same results. Absolute misery for good ol' Joe.
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So do you think McDermott will be gone soon, if that is the reason they left?
I mentioned earlier that he was "hanging on by a thread", but that's not to say he will 100% leave Creighton. The further we get into the offseason the less likely, obviously. But if it's clear he can't recruit as effectively and that the guys who "know him best" are still leaving his program when they're set up for bigger roles next season...it makes for a really tough decision for Bruce Rasmussen.
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I stood next to Dwyane once and i swear he's no taller than 6-2. It gets confusing because once the game started he played like he was 7-5.
His official NBA combine height (w/o shoes) was 6' 3.75".
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I mentioned earlier that he was "hanging on by a thread", but that's not to say he will 100% leave Creighton. The further we get into the offseason the less likely, obviously. But if it's clear he can't recruit as effectively and that the guys who "know him best" are still leaving his program when they're set up for bigger roles next season...it makes for a really tough decision for Bruce Rasmussen.
He finally breaks out of the first weekend and could still get fired. Hilarious.
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I just got chills reading this. #JosephChartouny
Since it wasn't clear enough, I was talking about the coach's philosophy, not the players. I'll bet a donut that Joseph values steals.
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He finally breaks out of the first weekend and could still get fired. Hilarious.
Obviously this is solely related to his plantation comments and how he's able to move forward.
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Some lines just shouldn't be crossed.
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1379116817797500929
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https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1379146192727199753 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1379146192727199753)
Devin Askew entered the portal. Unclear if we have a spot for him, but he was teammates with Dawson at USA Basketball and for the FIBA 3 on 3.
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Some lines just shouldn't be crossed.
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1379116817797500929
Greg Gard: Transfers are because kids these days can’t handle adversity
Also Greg Gard: Please leave your school and come to mine and help my team win games
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Greg Gard: Transfers are because kids these days can’t handle adversity
Also Greg Gard: Please leave your school and come to mine and help my team win games
Shot 25% from 3. Woof
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I stood next to Dwyane once and i swear he's no taller than 6-2. It gets confusing because once the game started he played like he was 7-5.
Agree he played like 7-5 and Dwyane Wade’s Wing Span is 6’11” according to google.
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Shot 25% from 3. Woof
Yeah, but how is his dick punching game?
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Yeah, but how is his dick punching game?
He has a tattoo on his arm, so no way he’s ending up in Madison
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He has a tattoo on his arm, so no way he’s ending up in Madison
Yeah but if he’s good at nut punching and flopping, they might let him wear a compression sleeve.
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Some lines just shouldn't be crossed.
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1379116817797500929
They are going to need a lot more transfers where that came from, so no idea why Gard would say what he said knowing what he knows about his roster. I get that we've predicted their downfall before and yadda yadda but I highly doubt their cupboard has ever been this empty going into a season. The future is looking very dire as of today, we'll see if Gard can pull a rabbit out of his hat like Bo did all those years.
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Greg Gard got owned by McEwen and is a total assclown.
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Greg Gard: Transfers are because kids these days can’t handle adversity
Also Greg Gard: Please leave your school and come to mine and help my team win games
I can't say I disagree with Gard. Coaches now have to kiss the asses of their players and anyone associated with each player (parent, coach, handler) and basically re-recruit their teams every year. Poaching is running rampant too. Kids who aren't even in the Portal are listed as having "received interest" from other programs. Coaches in sports like Soccer have been dealing with it and have told me how miserable it is.
Look at Illinois. Adam Miller was the heir apparent to Ayo and he's leaving. Apparently, he's unhappy Ayo came back last year and he didn't start immediately as the thought, and jealous of Curbelo playing as well as he did. It's only going to get worse.
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I can't say I disagree with Gard. Coaches now have to kiss the asses of their players and anyone associated with each player (parent, coach, handler) and basically re-recruit their teams every year. Poaching is running rampant too. Kids who aren't even in the Portal are listed as having "received interest" from other programs. Coaches in sports like Soccer have been dealing with it and have told me how miserable it is.
Look at Illinois. Adam Miller was the heir apparent to Ayo and he's leaving. Apparently, he's unhappy Ayo came back last year and he didn't start immediately as the thought, and jealous of Curbelo playing as well as he did. It's only going to get worse.
Good. The pendulum is finally swinging to the ones who work their arses off for peanuts vs the multimillionaires with the sneaker contracts.
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I can't say I disagree with Gard. Coaches now have to kiss the asses of their players and anyone associated with each player (parent, coach, handler) and basically re-recruit their teams every year. Poaching is running rampant too. Kids who aren't even in the Portal are listed as having "received interest" from other programs. Coaches in sports like Soccer have been dealing with it and have told me how miserable it is.
Look at Illinois. Adam Miller was the heir apparent to Ayo and he's leaving. Apparently, he's unhappy Ayo came back last year and he didn't start immediately as the thought, and jealous of Curbelo playing as well as he did. It's only going to get worse.
They are paid millions with no shortage of guys interested to take their place. Their salty tears nourish me.
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Look at Illinois. Adam Miller was the heir apparent to Ayo and he's leaving. Apparently, he's unhappy Ayo came back last year and he didn't start immediately as the thought, and jealous of Curbelo playing as well as he did. It's only going to get worse.
You have no idea why Miller is considering a transfer.
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You have no idea why Miller is considering a transfer.
Plus Adam Miller literally started every game last season as a true freshman, and isn’t a true point like Ayo.
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You have no idea why Miller is considering a transfer.
Or do I? ;)
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Or do I? ;)
I have no idea, but if I had to guess, Miller is looking for what is best for his long-term interests of possibly playing in the NBA.
At his height, he needs to develop and demonstrate PG skills. With Curbelo more of a pure PG, those options seem a bit limited at Illinois.
If his goal is to play in the NBA, he likely is better off finding a team that will develop and demonstrate his PG abilities.
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Davion Mitchell averaged 3.7 per game as an Auburn Freshman back up guard. Elite player, at both ends. National Champion. All American. Future NBA player. (They have 3 other transfers too.)
Finding and living the dream via the transfer portal.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1379195766363856903
Jake
@jakeweingarten
George Mason transfer Tyler Kolek is hearing from Marquette, Oklahoma, Penn State, Wofford, Northeastern, Davidson, Elon, Richmond, Virginia, and UConn, a source told
@Stockrisers
.
Averaged 10.8 points. A return to George Mason is also still an option.
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https://twitter.com/DushawnLondon1/status/1379200588261515269
Nevada, San Diego st, Marquette, Virginia, Georgia, Missouri st. And Illinois have reached out to Wichita State transfer forward Trey Wade he tells
@247Sports
.
@247SportsPortal
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1379195766363856903
Jake
@jakeweingarten
George Mason transfer Tyler Kolek is hearing from Marquette, Oklahoma, Penn State, Wofford, Northeastern, Davidson, Elon, Richmond, Virginia, and UConn, a source told
@Stockrisers
.
Averaged 10.8 points. A return to George Mason is also still an option.
I've never seen him play, and wouldn't know him unless he introduced himself to me, but looking at his stats I don't see what he would bring. Shot .358 from 3, shot .399 overall, unimpressive A/To ratio. And he's 6-3. Elon would seem a fine landing spot.
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These transfer lists have been WILD. Everyone shooting their shot. The Cole Swider was funny seeing ECU with a bunch of major schools, but there have been a bunch of these good to very good mid major players contacted by the expected P6 schools, but then schools that are arguably a step down contacting as well. Feel like that would not be seen in the past, short of direct local options from their hometown
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15? Do walk-on's have to use the transfer portal? How is this possible.
Vinnie Viana, 6-1 PG from UT Martin just entered the portal. That makes No. 16
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Vinnie Viana, 6-1 PG from UT Martin just entered the portal. That makes No. 16
A+ name. Sounds like a bit character from The Sopranos.
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A+ name. Sounds like a bit character from The Sopranos.
That's the name of the school, kin.
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That's the name of the school, kin.
UVV hey?
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That's the name of the school, kin.
I believe he meant Vinnie Viana, he didn't put UT Martin in bold lol
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Liam Robbins from Minnesota in the portal. 7'0" center averaged 11/6 for the Gophers after transferring from Drake last year.
DePaul's Pauly Paulicap also in the portal, ending the tragically underused grammatical device.
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That's the name of the school, kin.
I'm offended you thought I didn't know UT Martin was the name of a school.
I was clearly referencing Vinnie Viana.
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Good. The pendulum is finally swinging to the ones who work their arses off for peanuts vs the multimillionaires with the sneaker contracts.
Shaka has a sneaker contract?
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I believe he meant Vinnie Viana, he didn't put UT Martin in bold lol
Lol, totally missed the kid's name.
My bad, yo.
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I'm offended you thought I didn't know UT Martin was the name of a school.
I was clearly referencing Vinnie Viana.
I saw UT Martin in bold. My bad. Lol
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It appears Justin Lewis is back.
https://twitter.com/jusbuckets_5/status/1379562632290635776?s=20
2 down, 1 to go
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Greg Elliott too
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Greg Elliott too
Awesome and I'm happy but pretty sure most people were ready to move onto the future which essentially was the big 3, maybe Osa, and the incoming class + transfers.
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Awesome and I'm happy but pretty sure most people were ready to move onto the future which essentially was the big 3, maybe Osa, and the incoming class + transfers.
No way.
I'd love to have Greg back.
He's obviously not as important as the big 3 or future recruits. But he will be a huge boost next year. We kinda need at least 1 guy that can shoot...
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Awesome and I'm happy but pretty sure most people were ready to move onto the future which essentially was the big 3, maybe Osa, and the incoming class + transfers.
There is plenty of room on a P6 roster for a guy who can spot up, hit jumpers, and be a great teammate.
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A+ name. Sounds like a bit character from The Sopranos.
Martin is the name of the town it's in. It's my sister's Alma Mater. as well as Pat Summit's.
Pat, by the way, is the only person who has 2 D-1 basketball courts named after them, UT-Martin's and UT-Knoxville.
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I’ve always thought Skyhawks was a badass mascot
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I’ve always thought Skyhawks was a badass mascot
Marquette Golden Skyhawks p/b Pabst
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Martin is the name of the town it's in. It's my sister's Alma Mater. as well as Pat Summit's.
Pat, by the way, is the only person who has 2 D-1 basketball courts named after them, UT-Martin's and UT-Knoxville.
Again haha, I know UT Martin is a school and I know what city it's in.
I was simply referencing the name Vinnie Viana.
This is quickly becoming a Who's On Third skit.
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Again haha, I know UT Martin is a school and I know what city it's in.
I was simply referencing the name Vinnie Viana.
This is quickly becoming a Who's On Third skit.
What?
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What?
No. He’s on second.
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How many players does UL Washington have in the portal?
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Liam Robbins from Minnesota in the portal. 7'0" center averaged 11/6 for the Gophers after transferring from Drake last year.
DePaul's Pauly Paulicap also in the portal, ending the tragically underused grammatical device.
Pauly Paulicap is pursuing possibilities via the portal pursuant to the persistent psychological perplexities that prevailed from the preposterous posterizing play performed by point guard DJ Carton.
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Liam Robbins from Minnesota in the portal. 7'0" center averaged 11/6 for the Gophers after transferring from Drake last year.
DePaul's Pauly Paulicap also in the portal, ending the tragically underused grammatical device.
Which, to your point, will heretofore be known as the "DePaulicapitation"
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Vinnie Viana, 6-1 PG from UT Martin just entered the portal. That makes No. 16
Good guy to have for name guys
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Pauly Paulicap is pursuing possibilities via the portal pursuant to the persistent psychological perplexities that prevailed from the preposterous posterizing play performed by point guard DJ Carton.
Powerful post.
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Pauly Paulicap is pursuing possibilities via the portal pursuant to the persistent psychological perplexities that prevailed from the preposterous posterizing play performed by point guard DJ Carton.
Powerful post.
Powerful? Please! Positively pedestrian. Potentially problematic and probably pilfered.
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Pedantic prick.
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Pedantic prick schmuck.
I prefer the yiddish.
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Marquette in on 6'11" Fordham transfer Joel Soriano:
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1379854926029975553
(Insert Fordham-Wojo-Chartouny joke here)
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Marquette in on 6'11" Fordham transfer Joel Soriano:
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1379854926029975553
(Insert Fordham-Wojo-Chartouny joke here)
Big fella from a bad Fordham team (2-12). Elite rebounder. Limited offensive range. A little worried that he's that big and only blocks .8 shots a game. Fouls a lot but also draws a lot of fouls. If nothing else would give valuable depth at the 5 and could play some meaningful minutes.
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Koby McEwen to Weber State
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Koby McEwen to Weber State
Nice. 2 of 3 seniors continuing their college career. I kept getting told they were all done! Hope both Koby and Jamal find success!
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Nice. 2 of 3 seniors continuing their college career. I kept getting told they were all done! Hope both Koby and Jamal find success!
I’m wondering if Covid is limiting the opportunities in Europe right now.
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Nice. 2 of 3 seniors continuing their college career. I kept getting told they were all done! Hope both Koby and Jamal find success!
No....you kept getting told that they weren’t playing at MU next year.....and they’re not.
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Hope Jamal and Koby find some success at their next stops. Their destinations to mid/low majors do prove that we were facing an uphill battle on most nights, though. Especially considering they were prominent starters for us. I wonder if Theo would attract high major offers or if the interest in him would be about the same as the other two. In any case, I’ll definitely tune in if I see either are playing on tv next year.
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Soriano is good friends with Mo Bamba- a former Shaka Smart player
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Liam Robbins from Minnesota in the portal. 7'0" center averaged 11/6 for the Gophers after transferring from Drake last year.
DePaul's Pauly Paulicap also in the portal, ending the tragically underused grammatical device.
There is chatter that Stack is close to hiring his uncle, Ed Conroy as an assistant. (He was on Minnesota’s recent staff). So Vandy is a possibility there for both Conroy and Robbins. Nothing definitive yet. (Vandy is definitely hiring a new assistant and definitely seeking a big.) We'll see.
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Koby McEwen to Weber State
I'm really surprised Koby wants to spend a 6th year in college hoops.
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I'm really surprised Koby wants to spend a 6th year in college hoops.
Koby has one nice advantage, in that he is Canadian and in most foreign professional leagues there are a certain amount of place set aside for nationals. So in his case another year to work on his game, sets him well for a post covid foreign professional environment in Canada or any place else.
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I'm really surprised Koby wants to spend a 6th year in college hoops.
Honestly I think it’s a COVID thing. I can’t imagine it’s easy to get work visas right now in Europe and Asia, so there likely isn’t a ton of movement there. So if you’re not looking G League, another year of comped education and basketball seems smart
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No....you kept getting told that they weren’t playing at MU next year.....and they’re not.
Lol. Clearly these guys had interest in playing more college hoops. You were wrong. Own it.
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Liam Robbins from Minnesota in the portal. 7'0" center averaged 11/6 for the Gophers after transferring from Drake last year.
DePaul's Pauly Paulicap also in the portal, ending the tragically underused grammatical device.
Robbins will likely have to sit next year since he has already used his one-time transfer exception.
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Former MUBB recruiting target Nimari Burnett transferred from Texas Tech to Alabama today.
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Former MUBB recruiting target Nimari Burnett transferred from Texas Tech to Alabama today.
I read this as "Albany" at first and thought holy sh!t Killings made a splash!
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My daughter tells me Kyky Tandy is staying at Xavier.
He put his name in the portal right when the season ended.
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Former BADger Nate Reuvers pulls out of the transfer portal to sign with an agent and go pro. ::)
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Former BADger Nate Reuvers pulls out of the transfer portal to sign with an agent and go pro. ::)
A poor man's Kaminsky ... as his bank account will reflect.
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Reuvers will look good in the
Slovenian D league...
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Former BADger Nate Reuvers pulls out of the transfer portal to sign with an agent and go pro. ::)
Nate Reuvers prospects for earning money playing basketball will be the same whether he returns to college next year or not. So if the prospects of getting paid to play in Romania or Lithuania appeal to him more than playing for free at Wisconsin, then good for him. He'll be 23 in the fall, already has spent four years in college and, one would hope, will soon have his degree. What's the point of another year at Madison? Is he going to blow up and become a lottery pick in 2022?
Never understood the bashing/mocking of players who want to go out and earn a living.
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There’s a thousand good college players that want to continue playing but only so many opportunities to play pro.
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Garrison Brooks entered the portal today. Not sure how much interest MU would have in him but he’s a solid big.
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Garrison Brooks entered the portal today. Not sure how much interest MU would have in him but he’s a solid big.
Any word on Armando Bacot coming to Marquette? We could use some Man Bun action on the team.
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Jalen Coleman-Lands transferring from Iowa State.
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Marcus Santos-Silva took his name out of the transfer portal. His teammate Kyler Edwards also took his name out but put it back in a few days later
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Today is the day we are supposed to hear about Noah Gurley. Would be a huge get for next year. Doesn’t appear to be any smoke to MU though. Not counting on good news
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Marcus Santos-Silva took his name out of the transfer portal. His teammate Kyler Edwards also took his name out but put it back in a few days later
Santos-Silva is mega mehhhhhhhhhh
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Today is the day we are supposed to hear about Noah Gurley. Would be a huge get for next year. Doesn’t appear to be any smoke to MU though. Not counting on good news
Duke and UT out. SDS and Auburn had 2nd Zooms. Good Shaka discussion and impression.
https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Alabama-Florida-Auburn-Duke-Miami-Marquette-San-Diego-St-Tennessee-Noah-Gurley-163899681/
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...
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Noah Locke to Louisville.
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Noah Locke to Louisville.
Bummer. I really liked the 3 pt scoring he'd bring. On the flip side, hoping this means the sg spot will have Greg and Tamar playing there next season.
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Bummer. I really liked the 3 pt scoring he'd bring. On the flip side, hoping this means the sg spot will have Greg and Tamar playing there next season.
You’re hoping for Greg or a true freshman to start as our 2g?
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Jalen Coleman-Lands transferring from Iowa State.
Almost an annual event now to see where Jalen Coleman-Lands.
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Jalen Coleman-Lands transferring from Iowa State.
Going for a 7th year and 4th school.
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You’re hoping for Greg or a true freshman to start as our 2g?
In the six games after becoming a starter in the second Butler game, Greg averaged 11.2 ppg and shot 49 percent from the field, including 52 percent from three. And, importantly for him, he committed only three turnovers in those six games.
So, I'd be OK with Greg starting at the 2 next year.
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Any word on Armando Bacot coming to Marquette? We could use some Man Bun action on the team.
There's not enough PT for him on the court. We need 3 guards in this offense and at least 2 more ball handlers if we're going to be competitive. Teams heavy on bigs and short at the PG position tend to be easy outs in NCAA tourney - aka UNC getting blasted by Wisco. People on here keep hyping up Aidoo but his effect would be minimal. College basketball is a guard's game and MU right now is lacking at the position.
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There's not enough PT for him on the court. We need 3 guards in this offense and at least 2 more ball handlers if we're going to be competitive. Teams heavy on bigs and short at the PG position tend to be easy outs in NCAA tourney - aka UNC getting blasted by Wisco. People on here keep hyping up Aidoo but his effect would be minimal. College basketball is a guard's game and MU right now is lacking at the position.
Spot on. Add joplin and weve got enough bigs for what shaka runs.
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There's not enough PT for him on the court. We need 3 guards in this offense and at least 2 more ball handlers if we're going to be competitive. Teams heavy on bigs and short at the PG position tend to be easy outs in NCAA tourney - aka UNC getting blasted by Wisco. People on here keep hyping up Aidoo but his effect would be minimal. College basketball is a guard's game and MU right now is lacking at the position.
You miss the point: this is about Man Bun.
With Theo John's departure we are devoid of Man Bunnage. Bacot brings that with immediate effect.
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You miss the point: this is about Man Bun.
With Theo John's departure we are devoid of Man Bunnage. Bacot brings that with immediate effect.
Shaka could surprise us and yield us "The Bun"
That'd be a first ever for a coach
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In the six games after becoming a starter in the second Butler game, Greg averaged 11.2 ppg and shot 49 percent from the field, including 52 percent from three. And, importantly for him, he committed only three turnovers in those six games.
So, I'd be OK with Greg starting at the 2 next year.
Greg’s inability to stay healthy means we absolutely cannot count on him to be a starter throughout the season. Nothing against him as a player but he’s made of glass. We need another high quality guard
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Jalen Coleman-Lands transferring from Iowa State.
Clearly, he means to break the Otule record for number of collegiate seasons played by any means necessary.
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Shaka could surprise us and yield us "The Bun"
That'd be a first ever for a coach
Frankly, if Shaka has a hair on his ass he will sport a Man Bun as the Head Coach of Marquette Men's Basketball. And what better forum to showcase such a Statement Hair Style than the Big East launch meetings.
I think the Big East will be put on notice that Shaka means business. Phoenix arisen.
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Teams heavy on bigs and short at the PG position tend to be easy outs in NCAA tourney - aka UNC getting blasted by Wisco.
I agree good guards are essential to success, but UNC is a bad example. They were just a bad team.
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Almost an annual event now to see where Jalen Coleman-Lands.
Hey yo!
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In the six games after becoming a starter in the second Butler game, Greg averaged 11.2 ppg and shot 49 percent from the field, including 52 percent from three. And, importantly for him, he committed only three turnovers in those six games.
So, I'd be OK with Greg starting at the 2 next year.
I like Greg as an off the bench sniper. As a starter, who is he gonna guard?
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I like Greg as an off the bench sniper. As a starter, who is he gonna guard?
This. One sign that we’re a good team is if Elliott is a 10-15 minute player.
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https://twitter.com/McclungMac/status/1381353477989879814
Mac McClung entering the NBA draft while simultaneously entering the transfer portal. The man is keeping busy
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Safe bet he ain't comin' back ta TT, hey?
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Safe bet he ain't comin' back ta TT, hey?
And not going to the NBA either. ;)
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I like Greg as an off the bench sniper. As a starter, who is he gonna guard?
Totally agree, plays very soft, you can see in the eyes of the offensive player, time to go to the hoop, this guy is to weak to defend me.
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Noah Gurley to the Crimson Tide.
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Nate Oates is dropping baaaaaags!
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Two weeks in, transfers are flying everywhere but Milwaukee.
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Two weeks in, transfers are flying everywhere but Milwaukee.
If Dawson and Greg come back (along with DJ and Justin), we retain all our incoming recruits except Aidoo, and we land Bates and/or Joplin, we may not need much via the portal.
I am guessing transfers are waiting to see what happens with Dawson, Bates and Joplin.
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Shaka's been busy selecting new office furniture.
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Noah Gurley to the Crimson Tide.
Damn.
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Mac McClung leaving Texas Tech, to test NBA draft, transfer portaL
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Mac McClung entering NBA Draft
...and Moser at OU offers Aidoo.
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gurley is a nice player, but we need guards, not bigs.
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Hoo's gonna play da 5, hey?
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gurley is a nice player, but we need guards, not bigs.
We need to accumulate as much talent as possible.
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...and Moser at OU offers Aidoo.
Mac McClung leaving Texas Tech, to test NBA draft, transfer portal
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Only like 3 of the 10-12 players MU talked too have committed. It is very early. Plus we need to save 2 scholarships for the UT decommits. (even if Bates goes to Mizzou)
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Yep. People just need to be patient.
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Yep. People just need to be patient.
Nope. Shaka was a mishire. Next man up.
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https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1381348855451693067
#Utah transfer Alfonso Plummer (
@AlfonsoPlummer9
) tells us that Illinois, Kansas, BYU, VCU, Saint Mary’s, Florida, Georgia, and Marquette are among the top schools that have reached out to him.
Sharpshooting 2G in a PG's body. Would be a very solid add.
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https://twitter.com/McclungMac/status/1381353477989879814
Mac McClung entering the NBA draft while simultaneously entering the transfer portal. The man is keeping busy
He write a letter to TTU too?
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https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1381348855451693067
#Utah transfer Alfonso Plummer (
@AlfonsoPlummer9
) tells us that Illinois, Kansas, BYU, VCU, Saint Mary’s, Florida, Georgia, and Marquette are among the top schools that have reached out to him.
Sharpshooting 2G in a PG's body. Would be a very solid add.
Yes please
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If Dawson and Greg come back (along with DJ and Justin), we retain all our incoming recruits except Aidoo, and we land Bates and/or Joplin, we may not need much via the portal.
I am guessing transfers are waiting to see what happens with Dawson, Bates and Joplin.
We might be as good as last year's team.
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There is chatter that Stack is close to hiring his uncle, Ed Conroy as an assistant. (He was on Minnesota’s recent staff). So Vandy is a possibility there for both Conroy and Robbins. Nothing definitive yet. (Vandy is definitely hiring a new assistant and definitely seeking a big.) We'll see.
Liam Robbins has transferred to Vanderbilt.
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We might be as good as last year's team.
I would hope better. Last year's team was not good. Not surprising, but still.
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We might be as good as last year's team.
We'll be better. Not really saying much but I fail to see how we'd be worse.
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My goal for next year is improvement throughout the year.
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We might be as good as last year's team.
If Shaka really does know how to coach, we would be quite a bit better with that lineup.
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The vast majority of college athletes improve over the course of their careers, with the biggest jump often occurring between years 1 and 2.
If we ran out the exact same team, we'd almost certainly be better, and it appears we will have some talented additions. As well as a more accomplished coach.
I would expect fairly significant improvement if DJ, DG and JL return, if Mitchell and Jones remain committed and if Shaka brings in a few talented guys.
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If Shaka really does know how to coach, we would be quite a bit better with that lineup.
This. I was halfway through typing "coaching was a big problem last year." Talent level was good enough to take out a lot of good teams.
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Walker Kessler (UNC) is transferring to Auburn.
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Tre King to Georgetown. We had been mentioned as reaching out to him.
Former MU transfer target Jamarius Burton is back in the portal after transferring to Texas Tech last season
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Former MU transfer target Jamarius Burton is back in the portal after transferring to Texas Tech last season
Pretty lousy stats. Either he wasn't as good as quite a few made him out to be, or Chris Beard didn't coach him up very well.
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Pretty lousy stats. Either he wasn't as good as quite a few made him out to be, or Chris Beard didn't coach him up very well.
I think putting up the numbers he did for a top 20 team would have likely made him a starter on our squad last season
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I will admit to not being particularly patient but we really to add some prime-time players. Pronto.
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Garcia joining NBA Draft Portal without an agent
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Garcia joining NBA Draft Portal without an agent
Not a surprise.
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Garcia joining NBA Draft Portal without an agent
The feedback that guys like Garcia get from NBA scouts can be very valuable. Good move by DG.
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Garcia joining NBA Draft Portal without an agent
Think this is best case scenario for us. He won’t be getting drafted and didn’t simultaneously enter the transfer portal like other players who have declared for draft.
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Think this is best case scenario for us. He won’t be getting drafted and didn’t simultaneously enter the transfer portal like other players who have declared for draft.
Agreed. Now let's add Joplin, Bates, and a few impact transfers. Preferably a 6'6-6'8 switchable with ball skills and a 6'4 Novak like spot shooter.
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Agreed. Now let's add Joplin, Bates, and a few impact transfers. Preferably a 6'6-6'8 switchable with ball skills and a 6'4 Novak like spot shooter.
I prefer a 7' spot shooter like Novak, that blocks shot's like McIlvaine, and can break a press like Tony Miller.
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I prefer a 7' spot shooter like Novak, that blocks shot's like McIlvaine, and can break a press like Tony Miller.
The point is to add talent. Ideally I would like a 6'7 Wade type player with Novak's shot. I wouldn't worry about defense in this scenario.
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Boogie Ellis to USC
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The feedback that guys like Garcia get from NBA scouts can be very valuable. Good move by DG.
I'm not even sure he's only 1 year away from the NBA. More like 2.
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I'm not even sure he's only 1 year away from the NBA. More like 2.
The jump from frosh to soph could be bigger than you think. NBA does not need him to be 💯 ready....
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Bryce Thompson is transferring out of Kansas. Former five-star recruit who scores the ball on all three-levels, plus, has major upside. Showed flashes plenty of times this season and will be a large get for one program.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Bryce Thompson is transferring out of Kansas. Former five-star recruit who scores the ball on all three-levels, plus, has major upside. Showed flashes plenty of times this season and will be a large get for one program.
Ex-Shaka recruit. Took an official to TX before committing to KU.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Bryce Thompson is transferring out of Kansas. Former five-star recruit who scores the ball on all three-levels, plus, has major upside. Showed flashes plenty of times this season and will be a large get for one program.
Yes please
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Maryland transfer Darryl Morsell told ESPN he's heard from Arkansas, Miami, Florida, Providence, Marquette, San Diego State, Butler and Clemson. Morsell also entered the NBA draft, and will take his time going through the process. Was Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
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Maryland transfer Darryl Morsell told ESPN he's heard from Arkansas, Miami, Florida, Providence, Marquette, San Diego State, Butler and Clemson. Morsell also entered the NBA draft, and will take his time going through the process. Was Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
I'd be all about Morsell. Very very good defender.
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I'd be all about Morsell. Very very good defender.
If there is smoke with the DeAndre Haynes part...could Morsell follow?
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If there is smoke with the DeAndre Haynes part...could Morsell follow?
That thought had crossed my mind
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If there is smoke with the DeAndre Haynes part...could Morsell follow?
I was thinking that even before I saw us mentioned with him, now I'm watching that very closely.
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Charlie Moore from DePaul in them portal, not sure if that hurts or helps DePaul.
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If there is smoke with the DeAndre Haynes part...could Morsell follow?
Is there smoke that Haynes is going to join Shaka's staff?
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Is there smoke that Haynes is going to join Shaka's staff?
There is.
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Charlie Moore from DePaul in them portal, not sure if that hurts or helps DePaul.
Is there anyone left on their roster?
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Bryce Thompson is transferring out of Kansas. Former five-star recruit who scores the ball on all three-levels, plus, has major upside. Showed flashes plenty of times this season and will be a large get for one program.
Kid has a scorer's mentality. Can fill it up.
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Is there anyone left on their roster?
On the Holyland site, Demon 22 lists only 3 remaining. Freeman -Liberty, Jacobs and Jones.
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Maryland transfer Darryl Morsell told ESPN he's heard from Arkansas, Miami, Florida, Providence, Marquette, San Diego State, Butler and Clemson. Morsell also entered the NBA draft, and will take his time going through the process. Was Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
Intriguing tidbit - his #1 sophomore year player comp on KenPom is Haanif Cheatham, and his #1 senior year comp is Sacar Anim. I'd take a super-senior version of Sacar in a heartbeat for next year's team.
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Jake @jakeweingarten
Bryce Thompson is transferring out of Kansas. Former five-star recruit who scores the ball on all three-levels, plus, has major upside. Showed flashes plenty of times this season and will be a large get for one program.
This kid was looking at UNC at the same time as RJ Davis. I was hoping he would have committed to UNC , which would have resulted in RJ possibly coming to MU.
Would love to see Shaka go after this prospect.
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This kid was looking at UNC at the same time as RJ Davis. I was hoping he would have committed to UNC , which would have resulted in RJ possibly coming to MU.
Would love to see Shaka go after this prospect.
I was very disappointed when we lost out on Davis to UNC. After watching him play against us this year, I was no longer disappointed.
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Absolutely amazing. And stunning development.
The need for a nut punching, flop artist cry baby must be low around D1 basketball, the NBA and overseas as Ball Grab Davison is returning to the UW-Madison extension school for another year.
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Theo John to transfer portal
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Theo John to transfer portal
Could return and not use a scholly....
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Could return and not use a scholly....
He could just be keeping his options open similar to what Reuvers did.
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Morsell has graduated with a degree in Family Science. I'd like him to meet my in-laws and see if he could figure their sh!t out.
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He could just be keeping his options open similar to what Reuvers did.
More likely than not what he is doing. Covid is definitely making things hard for people that would normally go overseas to play.
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barf
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1382437171295059968?s=20
Evan Flood
@Evan_Flood
#Badgers took a very hard look at John in high school. Played AAU with Brad Davison.
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barf
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1382437171295059968?s=20
Evan Flood
@Evan_Flood
#Badgers took a very hard look at John in high school. Played AAU with Brad Davison.
If he goes to Wisconsin...I have a lot of feelings I will have to deal with.
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If he goes to Wisconsin...I have a lot of feelings I will have to deal with.
I’d be very surprised if that’s where he’d go for a 5th year if he does play another year.
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I’d be very surprised if that’s where he’d go for a 5th year if he does play another year.
Minnesota?
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barf
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1382437171295059968?s=20
Evan Flood
@Evan_Flood
#Badgers took a very hard look at John in high school. Played AAU with Brad Davison.
That makes me sick.
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Minnesota?
Perhaps. He sounded pretty definitive that his college playing days were over but maybe he’s had a change of heart.
He doesn’t really fit what Wisconsin does as a player but he’d be another body for them.
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I hope this wasn't the other big MU news that Ben Steele was teasing about.
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I hope this wasn't the other big MU news that Ben Steele was teasing about.
Must be
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With how many screens they set Theo would foul out in 10 minutes.
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I hope this wasn't the other big MU news that Ben Steele was teasing about.
Now that would be a letdown. We knew he was gonna over a month ago.
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Al Plummer, SG from Puerto Rico by way of Utah is announcing this weekend. No word on whether or not he counts as an international recruit.
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Al Plummer, SG from Puerto Rico by way of Utah is announcing this weekend. No word on whether or not he counts as an international recruit.
Marquette in his final 6, but pretty tough competition.
https://twitter.com/Illini_Guys/status/1382401763320414208?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Illini_Guys/status/1382401763320414208?s=19)
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Al Plummer, SG from Puerto Rico by way of Utah is announcing this weekend. No word on whether or not he counts as an international recruit.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/2e8c543ef3821dd4bb548784ab4ea5b2/tenor.gif)
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Theo John in the transfer portal.
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Theo John to transfer portal
Oh
Theo John in the transfer portal.
Oh!
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In my case, change it to 'Doh!'
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In my case, change it to 'Doh!'
I mean, it could be two states of being! Perhaps he was on his way "to" the portal on the portal on the first post, and "in" the portal by the time you posted.
Just havin' fun...
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any word on cam flefcher. random nobody on the texas board thinks we have a decent shot
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Theo in the transfer portal!? Wow. Come on back, Theo. Could really use ya.
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He doesn’t really fit what Wisconsin does as a player but he’d be another body for them.
I don’t know about that, he’s a 75% 3 pt shooter.
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Theo John in the transfer portal.
With John in the portal, should it now be renamed the portal potty?
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Theo John in the transfer portal.
Adios and next man up, hey?
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This thread just cannot keep up with Shaka. Times have changed.
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Lots of talk in the Twitter sphere about Theo heading to Duke.
Also I have seen wojo’s name a few times in Twitter about heading back to Duke too.
This maybe makes sense
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Lots of talk in the Twitter sphere about Theo heading to Duke.
Also I have seen wojo’s name a few times in Twitter about heading back to Duke too.
This maybe makes sense
I thought Nolan Smith took the Nate James spot.
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https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1382738016557531140 (https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1382738016557531140)
So..uh...
inside the portal
@InsidePortal
Hearing that #Marquette is going to land a talented transfer in the coming days.
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Lots of talk in the Twitter sphere about Theo heading to Duke.
Also I have seen wojo’s name a few times in Twitter about heading back to Duke too.
This maybe makes sense
Theo would get called for less fouls at Duke with K having the refs in his back pocket.
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Jake
There is plenty of room for talented transfers at MU. If any of the new guys need part time jobs, we are hiring!!!
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With how many screens they set Theo would foul out in 10 minutes.
what, don't you realize that bucky never fouls?
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Jake
There is plenty of room for talented transfers at MU. If any of the new guys need part time jobs, we are hiring!!!
Seems like it. Trying to read tea leaves, but that feels like the following are about to happen:
1. Morsell or Fletcher coming here
2. 2 people are transferring out (or maybe Dawson is hiring an agent? Although that seems unlikely given the current situation).
My head is still sort of spinning though.
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Seems like it. Trying to read tea leaves, but that feels like the following are about to happen:
1. Morsell or Fletcher coming here
2. 2 people are transferring out (or maybe Dawson is hiring an agent? Although that seems unlikely given the current situation).
My head is still sort of spinning though.
That said: Alfonso Plummer down to final 6 and announcing this weekend. Florida, Kansas, Illinois, Georgia, BYU, and Marquette are his final 6.
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That said: Alfonso Plummer down to final 6 and announcing this weekend. Florida, Kansas, Illinois, Georgia, BYU, and Marquette are his final 6.
Certainly wouldn't say no to him either!
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https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1382738016557531140 (https://twitter.com/InsidePortal/status/1382738016557531140)
So..uh...
Did this Tweet get deleted? Showing the Tweet as unavailable for me.
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Did this Tweet get deleted? Showing the Tweet as unavailable for me.
Seems like it did. Interesting.
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Deleted, followed up by this:
"Well Many Of You Probably Already Knew But We Were Told He Was Committing Tonight
But #Marquette Has Landed Talented #Clemson Transfer Olivier-Maxence Prosper
Former 4-Star Out Of High School"
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Deleted, followed up by this:
"Well Many Of You Probably Already Knew But We Were Told He Was Committing Tonight
But #Marquette Has Landed Talented #Clemson Transfer Olivier-Maxence Prosper
Former 4-Star Out Of High School"
Well then. Guess that was anti-climatic.
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Deleted, followed up by this:
"Well Many Of You Probably Already Knew But We Were Told He Was Committing Tonight
But #Marquette Has Landed Talented #Clemson Transfer Olivier-Maxence Prosper
Former 4-Star Out Of High School"
I thought it was unusual that MUBB would put out a press release announcing their five new-comers (and a social media blast covering FB, Twitter and Insta) if there was something else coming soon. I suspect we're done for a while.
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I thought it was unusual that MUBB would put out a press release announcing their five new-comers (and a social media blast covering FB, Twitter and Insta) if there was something else coming soon. I suspect we're done for a while.
I didn't think schools were allowed to announce commits who haven't signed letters of intent. Maybe that rule was scrapped some time ago?
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I didn't think schools were allowed to announce commits who haven't signed letters of intent. Maybe that rule was scrapped some time ago?
No this is still true. School/coaches can't (directly) comment on players unless they have signed.
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No this is still true. School/coaches can't (directly) comment on players unless they have signed.
Have all these new guys already signed NOIs? If not, how could Marquette put something welcoming non-signees on their official website?
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Have all these new guys already signed NOIs? If not, how could Marquette put something welcoming non-signees on their official website?
Great, now we're gonna be banned from the postseason. Plus, we'll probably lose a scholarship or two, which is a problem considering we already need two more than we're allowed.
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I thought it was unusual that MUBB would put out a press release announcing their five new-comers (and a social media blast covering FB, Twitter and Insta) if there was something else coming soon. I suspect we're done for a while.
NLI period started April 14.
http://www.nationalletter.org/signingDates/index.html (http://www.nationalletter.org/signingDates/index.html)
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Have all these new guys already signed NOIs? If not, how could Marquette put something welcoming non-signees on their official website?
Yesterday was the first day of the signing period so I assume so.
Should also mention that I'm not sure if that applies to transfers.
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Thanks. Looks like it was all legit, and I would have been surprised had it not been.
What a crazy week!
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I saw UT Martin in bold. My bad. Lol
yo onepost, UT Martin's women's soccer is playing in the semi's on ESPN right now. ;D ;D ;D
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yo onepost, UT Martin's women's soccer is playing in the semi's on ESPN right now. ;D ;D ;D
Hahahaha. Bet the announcers make a few Soprano's shoutouts during that one.
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Hahahaha. Bet the announcers make a few Soprano's shoutouts during that one.
This made me crack up. Goodness, this board is a lot more fun lately ;D
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NLI period started April 14.
http://www.nationalletter.org/signingDates/index.html (http://www.nationalletter.org/signingDates/index.html)
So when are transfer or current scholarships renewed?
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So when are transfer or current scholarships renewed?
20-21 basketball scholarships are good through the Spring semester. 21-22 basketball scholarships start for the Summer semester.
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@jakeweingarten: Eastern Michigan transfer Ty Groce told @Stockrisers that he’s heard from Georgetown, Marquette, Clemson, Butler, UNLV, Wichita State, Duquesne, Northeastern, Hofstra, Santa Clara, Utah, others.
6’8 prospect averaged 15.2 points, 6.9 rebounds, and 1.0 blocks per game.
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That said: Alfonso Plummer down to final 6 and announcing this weekend. Florida, Kansas, Illinois, Georgia, BYU, and Marquette are his final 6.
To update: we are no longer being considered as a destination for Plummer
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For those keeping score at home, our "Rostercast" score from torvik has moved us up from 56 to 48 with the moves in the past week or so.
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Scoop Colectivo is no matta
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For those keeping score at home, our "Rostercast" score from torvik has moved us up from 56 to 48
I misread that as Rastacast score, and thought 1) plausible 2) There's a site that tracks Rasta?
perhaps I should increase my font size as I grow older (and as these screens get more pixels)
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To update: we are no longer being considered as a destination for Plummer
Doesn’t want to share the ball with PBJ, clearly. Makes sense (smoke rising)
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"Wake Forest sophomore Jahcobi Neath has committed to Wisconsin #AbsoluteBasketball"
Honestly, what are we teaching these coaches? Everytime they face a little adversity, they add someone from the transfer portal.
https://twitter.com/JamieShaw5/status/1382911559626801153?s=19 (https://twitter.com/JamieShaw5/status/1382911559626801153?s=19)
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"Wake Forest sophomore Jahcobi Neath has committed to Wisconsin #AbsoluteBasketball"
Honestly, what are we teaching these coaches? Everytime they face a little adversity, they add someone from the transfer portal.
https://twitter.com/JamieShaw5/status/1382911559626801153?s=19 (https://twitter.com/JamieShaw5/status/1382911559626801153?s=19)
This is different. This kid wanted to be part of a family
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Buzz losing his best player
@jakeweingarten
Texas A&M’s Emanuel Miller will be entering the transfer portal, a source told @stockrisers. Averaged over 16 points and eight boards per game last season. Was great for two seasons in the SEC, will find himself a home with no problem.
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Buzz losing his best player
@jakeweingarten
Texas A&M’s Emanuel Miller will be entering the transfer portal, a source told @stockrisers. Averaged over 16 points and eight boards per game last season. Was great for two seasons in the SEC, will find himself a home with no problem.
While Shaka will do very well in the new transfer rule world, I suspect Buzz will struggle with his tough love style.
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Buzz losing his best player
@jakeweingarten
Texas A&M’s Emanuel Miller will be entering the transfer portal, a source told @stockrisers. Averaged over 16 points and eight boards per game last season. Was great for two seasons in the SEC, will find himself a home with no problem.
I'm unsure of how likely this would be but it would crack me up to see Buzz finally get his dream job, after years of success at MU and VA Tech, only to be unable to have any real success there.
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This is different. This kid wanted to be part of a family
Shaka's answer on the high number of transfers was perfect for 2021 and shows why he is the right coach to lead this team now and for year's to come.
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Buzz losing his best player
@jakeweingarten
Texas A&M’s Emanuel Miller will be entering the transfer portal, a source told @stockrisers. Averaged over 16 points and eight boards per game last season. Was great for two seasons in the SEC, will find himself a home with no problem.
This case is another example of how rankings are not necessarily predictive of performance. Miller had a modest ranking but outperformed many more celebrated players.
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I'm unsure of how likely this would be but it would crack me up to see Buzz finally get his dream job, after years of success at MU and VA Tech, only to be unable to have any real success there.
I'm a Buzz fan but that actually would be quite funny
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Shaka's answer on the high number of transfers was perfect for 2021 and shows why he is the right coach to lead this team now and for year's to come.
Agreed.
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I'm unsure of how likely this would be but it would crack me up to see Buzz finally get his dream job, after years of success at MU and VA Tech, only to be unable to have any real success there.
Kinda like TC at I4, hey?
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Shaka's answer on the high number of transfers was perfect for 2021 and shows why he is the right coach to lead this team now and for year's to come.
Agreed. Also his answer about understanding that there is life after NCAA for these kids--that you have to understand that there is a personal level too. So you have to find ways to get the kids to buy in to the "do the things to win" but be able to present it in a manner that aligns with what they may need outside of the program.
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Kinda like TC at I4, hey?
I mean it's a bit different, he had success at Indiana just not enough success for their bloated egos. But yes sort of like that.
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Kinda like TC at I4, hey?
And Georgia.
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Our Favorite Soprano School, UT-Martin (not to be confused with Tennessee Great, Tee Martin) finally picked up a transfer. Their total is now 16 players into the transfer, 1 out of the transfer.
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Shaka's answer on the high number of transfers was perfect for 2021 and shows why he is the right coach to lead this team now and for year's to come.
This really was a perfect situation for both Shaka and MU.
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Christian Bishop has transferred to Texas. Creighton is going to be very bad next year
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Christian Bishop has transferred to Texas. Creighton is going to be very bad next year
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/fQorEj8vN8eqkNcy6T/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
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Trey Wade to Nevada. We had been previously mentioned as a possiblity.
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Christian Bishop has transferred to Texas. Creighton is going to be very bad next year
Everything that administration did was shortsighted. At least they got their sweet 16
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Does the signing period for transfers also end on August 1st?
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Illinois State transfer DJ Horne, who MU had shown some interest in earlier, has committed to Arizona State.
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Alfonso Plummer to Illinois. Marquette had targeted him and was originally in his final 6.
That list changed quite a bit when Plummer named a mostly new final 5, which did not include Marquette. Kolek committed somewhere between list changes.
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Other portal news:
St. John's adds G Montez Mathias from Rutgers.
UCLA adds C Myles Johnson, also from Rutgers.
Arizona PG James Akinjo, formerly of Georgetown, has entered the portal.
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Big Sky Player of the Year, Tanner Groves, has transferred to Oklahoma.
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Emmitt Matthews is transferring to Washington. Marquette had contacted him, but I think Morsell is the current focus.
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Big Sky Player of the Year, Tanner Groves, has transferred to Oklahoma.
He was very impressive in the tournament.
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Kolek in the fold will likely keep us out of this one, but I'm not sure there's a better perform-your-role sniper in the country than CJ Fredrick. Killer from three, never turns it over, great decision maker.
https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/7281373002?__twitter_impression=true
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Kolek in the fold will likely keep us out of this one, but I'm not sure there's a better perform-your-role sniper in the country than CJ Fredrick. Killer from three, never turns it over, great decision maker.
https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/7281373002?__twitter_impression=true
About the only guy on Iowa who plays a lick of defense too
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Kolek in the fold will likely keep us out of this one, but I'm not sure there's a better perform-your-role sniper in the country than CJ Fredrick. Killer from three, never turns it over, great decision maker.
https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/7281373002?__twitter_impression=true
95 percent chance he ends up at ND, where is Grandfather and Uncle Joe (who coined the term Catholics v Convicts) went
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And Georgia.
The Bronze Beast is like the guy who was Mr. Everything in high school and is still talking about the "Big Homecoming Win over Central" 30 years later.
Without D Wade his record of accomplishment is rather slender indeed.
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The Bronze Beast is like the guy who was Mr. Everything in high school and is still talking about the "Big Homecoming Win over Central" 30 years later.
This post is fully of delicious irony.
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This post is fully of delicious irony.
+1
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This post is fully of delicious irony.
Hahaha.
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
yup. Well, except for the pesky -1 problem. But that one seems obvious to me.
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
Is Darryl Morsell still possible or has he committed somewhere?
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
I'd be surprised if we were done. Bates hasn't been likely for awhile.
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The Bronze Beast is like the guy who was Mr. Everything in high school and is still talking about the "Big Homecoming Win over Central" 30 years later.
Without D Wade his record of accomplishment is rather slender indeed.
The tan one is a first weekend NCAA tourney coach. What you see is what you get. Georgia is a good place for him, although I always thought that he'd be perfect at USC.
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Is Darryl Morsell still possible or has he committed somewhere?
He is currently committed to evaluating his options at the NBA level. Once he gets more clarity there, we will as well.
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Maybe because I haven’t felt Bates was likely for awhile, but I’ve gotten excited for Morsell as the possible new wing addition. I think he’d help more in the immediate. Although, Bates is obviously very talented and would be very good from a long-term perspective.
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
Would tend to agree, except that Shaka said they weren't done at his press conference last week.
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Maybe because I haven’t felt Bates was likely for awhile, but I’ve gotten excited for Morsell as the possible new wing addition. I think he’d help more in the immediate. Although, Bates is obviously very talented and would be very good from a long-term perspective.
I'd like to see this also since it would help to balance the roster some. We could use a another plug and play guy for next year.
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With Bates committed to Cornfield U, I gotta believe we're about done for next year.
As in, what you see is what you get.
Unless things really don't break our way, we are definitely not done.
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We're not done.
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We're not done.
Fun times. Fun times indeed
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Given TAMU, PGsHeroes32, and onepost all say we're not done, I believe we're not done. All 3 have a good track record.
So, who's departing and when? Already one over, so probably 2 departures.
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yup. Well, except for the pesky -1 problem. But that one seems obvious to me.
We currently don't have a -1 problem. Greg is covered by extra year from the NCAA, as he used up all 4 years of his eligibility ( he can apply for an injury waiver after this season) . We are at zero, assuming Dawson comes back.
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Given TAMU, PGsHeroes32, and onepost all say we're not done, I believe we're not done. All 3 have a good track record.
So, who's departing and when? Already one over, so probably 2 departures.
Unfortunately, I think Dawson is one of those departures (or the only departure, if nothing else changes). I get that he's not in the transfer portal and unlikely to get drafted, but I could see him getting feedback from teams that his quickest route to making an NBA roster is via the G-League.
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We currently don't have a -1 problem. Greg is covered by extra year from the NCAA, as he used up all 4 years of his eligibility ( he can apply for an injury waiver after this season) . We are at zero, assuming Dawson comes back.
I thought Greg counted as a scholarship this year, since he had an injury redshirt his sophomore year?
So, if Dawson comes back, we'd be at -1. Which is why I don't think Dawson's coming back. If it were Perez or Dexter (or Greg) leaving, I think we'd know by now.
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Given TAMU, PGsHeroes32, and onepost all say we're not done, I believe we're not done. All 3 have a good track record.
So, who's departing and when? Already one over, so probably 2 departures.
Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board". I'm just not convinced that the info is good.
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I thought Greg counted as a scholarship this year, since he had an injury redshirt his sophomore year?
So, if Dawson comes back, we'd be at -1. Which is why I don't think Dawson's coming back. If it were Perez or Dexter (or Greg) leaving, I think we'd know by now.
After Bailey left last year, I stopped trying to guess which kids will stay in the draft and which will return. Guys like Wade and Ellenson were obviously leaving.
But trying to figure out what guys like Blue, Bailey, Howard, McNeal, and Garcia will do is a fool's errand.
If Garcia wants to return, he will have a spot. If he leaves, O-Max, Joplin, and Oso need to step up.
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Unfortunately, I think Dawson is one of those departures (or the only departure, if nothing else changes). I get that he's not in the transfer portal and unlikely to get drafted, but I could see him getting feedback from teams that his quickest route to making an NBA roster is via the G-League.
I would say smart money is definitely on him returning. I truly have no clue what the feedback ultimately will be and how a 19 year old may react to it, but there is definitely no expectation on MU's end that hes gone.
Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board". I'm just not convinced that the info is good.
I don't use any other boards. Based off what I have heard though, I would be truly stunned if we are done.
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Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board". I'm just not convinced that the info is good.
This is the only board I frequent.
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I don't use any other boards. Based off what I have heard though, I would be truly stunned if we are done.
This is the only board I frequent.
Fair enough, sorry for the mischaracterization. It would be nice to see Shaka pick up a big guy (not just tall). Seems there's plenty of guards/forwards with size - I don't see much more needs there. But could also see the team (largely) rolling with what we know, and making complimentary pickups next summer (2022).
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We currently don't have a -1 problem. Greg is covered by extra year from the NCAA, as he used up all 4 years of his eligibility ( he can apply for an injury waiver after this season) . We are at zero, assuming Dawson comes back.
Are you sure about this? Didn't Greg red shirt in 18-19? Wouldn't the waiver only be the case if he played some in 18-19, but not a ton, and enough to file for a waiver after his eligibility was up.
Further edit: pretty sure this is wrong. Greg has played in 3 seasons. He officially red shirted in 18-19, and has only used 3 years of eligibility and 1 red shirt. I could see this being an argument had Greg participated in like 8-10 games in 18-19, as we've seen the NCAA rule some guys eligible for another season in those cases (Otule is an example off the top of my head). As far as I can tell, Greg is a senior eligibility wise. If he wants to use a Covid bonus year, it would be in 22-23.
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Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board". I'm just not convinced that the info is good.
Like I've stated before, I don't frequent any boards but this so I have no idea what "insider board" info is even out there.
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Like I've stated before, I don't frequent any boards but this so I have no idea what "insider board" info is even out there.
Well then, also sorry for the mischaracterization.
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I am definitely part of an outsider board.
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Wait. This isn’t the insider board? What am I paying all this money for?
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Are you sure about this? Didn't Greg red shirt in 18-19? Wouldn't the waiver only be the case if he played some in 18-19, but not a ton, and enough to file for a waiver after his eligibility was up.
Further edit: pretty sure this is wrong. Greg has played in 3 seasons. He officially red shirted in 18-19, and has only used 3 years of eligibility and 1 red shirt. I could see this being an argument had Greg participated in like 8-10 games in 18-19, as we've seen the NCAA rule some guys eligible for another season in those cases (Otule is an example off the top of my head). As far as I can tell, Greg is a senior eligibility wise. If he wants to use a Covid bonus year, it would be in 22-23.
Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.
The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.
Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.
2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021
Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.
Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.
I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code
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Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.
The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.
Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.
2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021
Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.
Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.
I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code
This is a rationale I've seen floated by Alabama fans but I don't buy it. Everything I've seen indicates the fifth playing year would be the non-counter. Theo, Jamal, and Koby wouldn't count, Greg would. If Greg was given a non-counting year, it would be 2022-23.
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Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.
The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.
Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.
2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021
Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.
Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.
I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code
I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.
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I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.
We are going through this with one of our kids right now. That is what we have been told by compliance at our kids school .
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Duke transfer Jordan Goldwire to Oklahoma.
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Duke transfer Jordan Goldwire to Oklahoma.
Porter would have gotten all the Duke kids and not lose kids TO Duke.
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Any talk of Darryl Morsell thinking of coming over with his AC Haynes?
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Any talk of Darryl Morsell thinking of coming over with his AC Haynes?
Yes, there is such talk.
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Guard Charlie Moore transferring from DePaul Blue Demons to Miami Hurricanes, his fourth school
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Departing Miami since the end of the season via transfer have been Chris Lykes to Arkansas, Earl Timberlake to Memphis and Elijah Olaniyi to Stony Brook. Two other players, Isaiah Wong and Kameron McGusty, decided to enter the NBA draft with the option to return to Miami.
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Guard Charlie Moore transferring from DePaul Blue Demons to Miami Hurricanes, his fourth school
*Charlie Moore - The Wojo Killer
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Miller Kopp to Indiana
Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule.
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Miller Kopp to Indiana
Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule.
Indiana got Miller Kopp? The 2nd highest scorer on a 9-15 team Miller Kopp? Oh my lord. Woodson is a wizard. They may win the B10 by 2-3 games in his first year, SHEESH
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Indiana got Miller Kopp? The 2nd highest scorer on a 9-15 team Miller Kopp? Oh my lord. Woodson is a wizard. They may win the B10 by 2-3 games in his first year, SHEESH
Watch Woodson/Matta turn Indiana around in a few years
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Watch Woodson/Matta turn Indiana around in a few years
They very well might, but getting a transfer who was decent but nothing special for 3 years in the B10 isn’t some banner waving validation.
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They very well might, but getting a transfer who was decent but nothing special for 3 years in the B10 isn’t some banner waving validation.
I think if you look at the forest through the Miller Kopp tree, it's hard not to be impressed with the work Woodson has done so far.
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Miller Kopp to Indiana
Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule.
There is word he is changing his name from Woodson to Wooden.
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There is word he is changing his name from Woodson to Wooden.
He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson
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So since we’ve been told we aren't done, anybody got any morsels of info on current targets?
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So since we’ve been told we agent done, anybody got any morsels of info on current targets?
I don't know if that was on purpose or not but well done.
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I'll never get over the fact that we couldn't bring a kid named MILLER KOPP to Milwaukee, smh
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He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson
I think that would be Woodensen
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Marquette expressing interest in Oklahoma transfer Kur Kuath.
https://twitter.com/dushawnlondon1/status/1384543539636412416?s=21
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He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson
If he went with Wooderson, it would be "Alright, alright, alright."
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Marquette expressing interest in Oklahoma transfer Kur Kuath.
https://twitter.com/dushawnlondon1/status/1384543539636412416?s=21
This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now. I am one who does not
like to cut players. 2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team. Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on. He has no luck. If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on. Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.
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This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now. I am one who does not
like to cut players. 2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team. Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on. He has no luck. If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on. Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.
"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.
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"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.
Meh.
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I know this has been asked elsewhere but I haven't seen a definitive response. Can Greg technically be a 5th year player and not count towards limit? It's assumed he had a redshirt year, but what are the actual triggers that let you play an extra year, do you have to apply?
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"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.
Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement. Goes both ways. Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing. And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.
"crapty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic. This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.
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I express no opinion on cutting players but if you've given a player 4 years of scholarship I don't see how you are doing anything wrong by not providing them with a 5th.
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"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.
These are high level D1 athletes. Such is life. Do you feel bad for every HS kid that gets cut from his varsity team? It sucks - but its real life. Every kid on Marquette will find a landing spot on a D1 team somewhere else if it so happens that space needs to be made.
Take the best players you can get your hands on, and if that means some guys at the end of the roster lose their spot, so be it. This isn't teeball.
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I can't get really hung up about "cutting" players when they don't have to sit a year.
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I know this has been asked elsewhere but I haven't seen a definitive response. Can Greg technically be a 5th year player and not count towards limit? It's assumed he had a redshirt year, but what are the actual triggers that let you play an extra year, do you have to apply?
He (and MU) could get a waiver to allow for this to be his Covid year, I believe. I'm assuming, though, that he'd be done after this season and wouldn't get the extra year of eligibility, regardless of whether he was on scholarship or not.
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This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now. I am one who does not
like to cut players. 2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team. Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on. He has no luck. If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on. Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.
Kuath has a back problem.
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I can't get really hung up about "cutting" players when they don't have to sit a year.
They still have to find a new school, move who knows how far, leave behind their academic work (and perhaps even credits), leave behind friendships, etc., all involuntarily.
It's not nothing.
It's one thing for a coach to come in from day one and tell a player he doesn't fit into his scheme, will struggle to earn playing time and might want to consider other options. That's fair game. It's another to wait a month or more after you've been hired, encourage the kid to participate workouts and activities as part of the team, and then pull the rug out from under him when a shinier object comes along.
That's what some are talking about doing.
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Well my guess is that the truth lies in the middle, and neither of us really know what that is.
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They still have to find a new school, move who knows how far, leave behind their academic work (and perhaps even credits), leave behind friendships, etc., all involuntarily.
It's not nothing.
It's one thing for a coach to come in from day one and tell a player he doesn't fit into his scheme, will struggle to earn playing time and might want to consider other options. That's fair game. It's another to wait a month or more after you've been hired, encourage the kid to participate workouts and activities as part of the team, and then pull the rug out from under him when a shinier object comes along.
That's what some are talking about doing.
Perhaps SS told them look.....we are actively pursuing additional players. If the players were have our eye on choose MU..we will take them. If that is the case, we will do everything in our power to find a new an appropriate home for you. If the players we are interested in don’t come to campus, you can stay. In the meantime, I encourage you to continue to practice with the team and stay in shape because you are playing next year, whether it be here or somewhere else.
I’m quite certain isn’t feeding these guys bullcrap just to pull the rug out from under them.
It’s a strange year, but I certainly hope that SS is overturning every stone to get the best players he can to MU—without having to sit a year.
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Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement. Goes both ways. Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing. And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.
"crapty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic. This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.
i know you can’t reply since you’re onepostdavis, but is this your one post?
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Perhaps SS told them look.....we are actively pursuing additional players. If the players were have our eye on choose MU..we will take them. If that is the case, we will do everything in our power to find a new an appropriate home for you. If the players we are interested in don’t come to campus, you can stay. In the meantime, I encourage you to continue to practice with the team and stay in shape because you are playing next year, whether it be here or somewhere else.
I’m quite certain isn’t feeding these guys bullcrap just to pull the rug out from under them.
It’s a strange year, but I certainly hope that SS is overturning every stone to get the best players he can to MU—without having to sit a year.
I mean, anything is possible, but don't you think that a kid presented with that scenario would have put his name in the transfer portal by now? If a coach is telling you "You can stay for now, but I might drop you at any moment," it would seem that the smart play is to let other programs know you're available before they fill up all their spots.
So, yeah, this could be possible, but pretty unlikely.
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I mean, anything is possible, but don't you think that a kid presented with that scenario would have put his name in the transfer portal by now? If a coach is telling you "You can stay for now, but I might drop you at any moment," it would seem that the smart play is to let other programs know you're available before they fill up all their spots.
So, yeah, this could be possible, but pretty unlikely.
That was my thought too. What player would stay under that scenario.
It is like telling your significant other, hey I'm actively looking for a new partner. There are several options I'm super excited about, if any of them are interested in me I'm dumping you in a flash. If that happens, I'll try to hook you up with one of my friends, so like you should totally put all your effort into this relationship as practice, because one way or another you'll likely be dating someone.
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Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement. Goes both ways. Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing. And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.
"crapty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic. This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.
Even if that means showing loyalty to players?
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That was my thought too. What player would stay under that scenario.
It is like telling your significant other, hey I'm actively looking for a new partner. There are several options I'm super excited about, if any of them are interested in me I'm dumping you in a flash. If that happens, I'll try to hook you up with one of my friends, so like you should totally put all your effort into this relationship as practice, because one way or another you'll likely be dating someone.
Yeah, and for what it's worth, I don't think Shaka is doing this. Certainly stringing kids along for a month and then telling them to scram doesn't seem to fit with him naming relationships as his number one priority.
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ESPN News Services
DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke freshman forward Henry Coleman III says he plans to enter his name into the transfer portal.
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ESPN News Services
DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke freshman forward Henry Coleman III says he plans to enter his name into the transfer portal.
Frightened off by the arrival of Theo.
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I can't get really hung up about "cutting" players when they don't have to sit a year.
What bothers me about it is the posters on this site, who do not care if a player really loves it at MU.
Most of you just seem to be perfectly willing to crap on someone else's dream, because you might get a better player.
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Let's be real about this. Shaka is not going to just walk up to a player and say "you're cut". He's gonna sit down for a heart-to-heart and then do everything possible to get that player to a place where he can be successful.
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Let's be real about this. Shaka is not going to just walk up to a player and say "you're cut". He's gonna sit down for a heart-to-heart and then do everything possible to get that player to a place where he can be successful.
This is what I believe. SS imo is being as honest as he can be with those at the end of the scholly bench right now.
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This is what I believe. SS imo is being as honest as he can be with those at the end of the scholly bench right now.
So you think he's sayin': "Don't believe any of that speculative crap on on Muscoop"?
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i know you can’t reply since you’re onepostdavis, but is this your one post?
Haha I actually started this account in college to pass along info I'd been given by a friend who was student managing at the time, fully intending on making only one post.
But alas I became addicted to Scoop and here I am all these years later.
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Even if that means showing loyalty to players?
Absolutely, if he wants those guys around then by all means.
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Let's be real about this. Shaka is not going to just walk up to a player and say "you're cut". He's gonna sit down for a heart-to-heart and then do everything possible to get that player to a place where he can be successful.
Agree, but we have no idea what really is going on. There has been quite a bit of speculation regarding Greg's eligibility. Garcia's return is the elephant in the room. My guess is that there is, at best, a 50/50 chance he returns to Marquette. I seriously doubt that he goes pro but if he believes a different school would be a better place to showcase his talents, he's gone. There may be behind the scenes exploration for landing places for Akanno and Perez.
Shaka does not impress me as the type of guy who would BS players about where they stand. I get bilsu's remarks about player's dreams but when faced with maybe being at the end of the bench, they may decide to move on.
I'm expecting one more transfer, most likely a big. Shaka cannot simply wait until maybe July for Garcia's decision. Let's not make Shaka the bad guy.
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What bothers me about it is the posters on this site, who do not care if a player really loves it at MU.
Most of you just seem to be perfectly willing to crap on someone else's dream, because you might get a better player.
Shaka's job is to win. Otherwise, he'll join Woj baggin' at Pick and Save, hey?
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Shaka's job is to win. Otherwise, he'll join Woj baggin' at Pick and Save, hey?
This is correct and why NIL is a no-brainer. Lift the facade of amateurism and student-athletes.
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Haha I actually started this account in college to pass along info I'd been given by a friend who was student managing at the time, fully intending on making only one post.
But alas I became addicted to Scoop and here I am all these years later.
It checks out.
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
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Haha I actually started this account in college to pass along info I'd been given by a friend who was student managing at the time, fully intending on making only one post.
But alas I became addicted to Scoop and here I am all these years later.
Good thing you didn't do that in today's age or the gatekeepers would be after you for sharing insider info!
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It checks out.
Hahaha thanks for the callback, reading that now is hilarious.
And to think we've come so far where people are no longer pessimistic on this board.....
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OK, I have an unhealthy obsession with UT-Martin and the transfer portal. Jonte Coleman from UT Martin has just entered the transfer portal. That is No. 17
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OK, I have an unhealthy obsession with UT-Martin and the transfer portal. Jonte Coleman from UT Martin has just entered the transfer portal. That is No. 17
I'm waiting to see their first 2021 transfer in that transfers out, ideally before summer is over.
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OK, I have an unhealthy obsession with UT-Martin and the transfer portal. Jonte Coleman from UT Martin has just entered the transfer portal. That is No. 17
I still don't understand how you can have more than 13 transfers. Can walk-ons transfer? Did Stewart adopt a lot of players? I haven't googled...and probably should.
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I still don't understand how you can have more than 13 transfers. Can walk-ons transfer? Did Stewart adopt a lot of players? I haven't googled...and probably should.
Yes, walk ons can transfer. They go in the portal and everything. Christian Haffner went in the portal a few years ago.
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IIRC the badgers just accepted a transfer who will walk on.
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I'm waiting to see their first 2021 transfer in that transfers out, ideally before summer is over.
Far more likely than herd immunity before summer is over, hey?
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Yes, walk ons can transfer. They go in the portal and everything. Christian Haffner went in the portal a few years ago.
But if they "transfer" I assume it means they're going for a scholarship? Otherwise, aren't they free to just enroll and walk-on to any team (assuming the team/college will have them).
IIRC the badgers just accepted a transfer who will walk on.
Or that. I guess it doesn't make much sense to me, but many things don't :)
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Yes, walk ons can transfer. They go in the portal and everything. Christian Haffner went in the portal a few years ago.
Here’s a question I have that you can probably answer. Is a student athlete that intends to transfer required to put their name in the portal or is it just a way to “advertise” their availability to other programs? Could they just line up their new destination directly with a coach with whom they have a prior relationship and skip the portal?
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Vandy's Dylan Disu has entered the Transfer Portal. This was a surprise. Averaged 15 and 9 before injury. Was expected to be an elite SEC Player this upcoming year. He's from suburban Austin, TX. Bryce Drew was able to recruit him to Vandy, and, he was well developed under Jerry Stackhouse.
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Shaka's job is to win. Otherwise, he'll join Woj baggin' at Pick and Save, hey?
I was not talking about Shaka. I was talking about posters on this site, who seem not to care if a player gets hurt by losing his membership on the team. Shaka going to do what he is going to do. I just think we should recognize some players may get hurt. We should care about our players.
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I was not talking about Shaka. I was talking about posters on this site, who seem not to care if a player gets hurt by losing his membership on the team. Shaka going to do what he is going to do. I just think we should recognize some players may get hurt. We should care about our players.
I appreciate your concerns. But, is it not caring about our players too for them to also explore their best fits?
We saw with Buzz and with Shaka, players commit to coaches primarily. I mean, Deonte was one of my favorites, made the NBA, but he was never going to fit into Wojo's system. Then there was the trail of tears of wasted time on the program and the players who followed.
I am still most upset for Duane and Luke who redshirted for Buzz, got trapped with the redshirt rule, and then got bad fits under Wojo's system. Wojo tried to make it work while Buzz took a flier. We all knew that wasn't an ideal fit with Wojo's system for those two from the get-go. That was a crime.
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Here’s a question I have that you can probably answer. Is a student athlete that intends to transfer required to put their name in the portal or is it just a way to “advertise” their availability to other programs? Could they just line up their new destination directly with a coach with whom they have a prior relationship and skip the portal?
It is mandatory in D1. I believe the other Divisions are considering making it mandatory but don't quote me on that part.
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This is what I believe. SS imo is being as honest as he can be with those at the end of the scholly bench right now.
I believe WoJo does the same for players on his watch, also. Don't you.
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It is mandatory in D1. I believe the other Divisions are considering making it mandatory but don't quote me on that part.
Appreciate the answer
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Vandy's Dylan Disu has entered the Transfer Portal. This was a surprise. Averaged 15 and 9 before injury. Was expected to be an elite SEC Player this upcoming year. He's from suburban Austin, TX. Bryce Drew was able to recruit him to Vandy, and, he was well developed under Jerry Stackhouse.
Yeah...think almost every team in the country will be in on him
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IIRC the badgers just accepted a transfer who will walk on.
Yes, but he's a Diamond Preferred EliteTM Walk-On.
He'll get Double Minutes for every garbage time minute he plays, plus there's never any fees for nutshots.
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I mean, Deonte was one of my favorites, made the NBA, but he was never going to fit into Wojo's system.
Wojo had a system??? ?-(
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Wojo had a system??? ?-(
There were three pillars to his system:
Recruit as highly ranked prospects as possible.
Roll the ball out there
Exhort them to play hard
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There were three pillars to his system:
Recruit as highly ranked prospects as possible.
Roll the ball out there
Exhort them to play hard
Give ball to Carlino, Henry, (skips year) Andrew or Markus, just Markus.
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Krutwig ends his fine run at Loyola, makes himself eligible for the NBA draft.
http://loyolaphoenix.com/2021/04/a-rambler-for-life-cameron-krutwig-forgoes-eligibility-to-declare-for-the-nba-draft/
“After a great four years, I feel that it’s in my best interest and just the right move for me to… try and pursue my dreams of playing professional basketball."
Glad he said pro hoops instead of the NBA, because he has basically no shot at the association because, well, he has no shot.
Certainly could make a nice living in Europe.
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Krutwig ends his fine run at Loyola, makes himself eligible for the NBA draft.
http://loyolaphoenix.com/2021/04/a-rambler-for-life-cameron-krutwig-forgoes-eligibility-to-declare-for-the-nba-draft/
“After a great four years, I feel that it’s in my best interest and just the right move for me to… try and pursue my dreams of playing professional basketball."
Glad he said pro hoops instead of the NBA, because he has basically no shot at the association because, well, he has no shot.
Certainly could make a nice living in Europe.
Should follow the Davante and Buycks foreign model. Go to France for basic training and then to Go To Asia for dollars.
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Should follow the Davante and Buycks foreign model. Go to France for basic training and then to Go To Asia for dollars.
No one should emulate Davante. He's no Theo for f#ck sake.
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No one should emulate Davante. He's no Theo for f#ck sake.
And Theo is no you for f#ck sake.
So we should all aspire to be Keefer.
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Krutwig ends his fine run at Loyola, makes himself eligible for the NBA draft.
http://loyolaphoenix.com/2021/04/a-rambler-for-life-cameron-krutwig-forgoes-eligibility-to-declare-for-the-nba-draft/
“After a great four years, I feel that it’s in my best interest and just the right move for me to… try and pursue my dreams of playing professional basketball."
Glad he said pro hoops instead of the NBA, because he has basically no shot at the association because, well, he has no shot.
Certainly could make a nice living in Europe.
Ya....can't see him being drafted but a really good college player.
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Ya....can't see him being drafted but a really good college player.
Well he certainly won’t be drafted, c’mon.
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I appreciate your concerns. But, is it not caring about our players too for them to also explore their best fits?
We saw with Buzz and with Shaka, players commit to coaches primarily. I mean, Deonte was one of my favorites, made the NBA, but he was never going to fit into Wojo's system. Then there was the trail of tears of wasted time on the program and the players who followed.
I am still most upset for Duane and Luke who redshirted for Buzz, got trapped with the redshirt rule, and then got bad fits under Wojo's system. Wojo tried to make it work while Buzz took a flier. We all knew that wasn't an ideal fit with Wojo's system for those two from the get-go. That was a crime.
Luke was a transfer he had to sit out a year.
Players can decide what is the best fir for them. However, my opinion it is wrong to start a thread on Perez or any other player saying we think they should transfer. You can discuss this in a private setting, but posting it on an internet site for the player to see is just classless.
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Luke was a transfer he had to sit out a year.
Players can decide what is the best fir for them. However, my opinion it is wrong to start a thread on Perez or any other player saying we think they should transfer. You can discuss this in a private setting, but posting it on an internet site for the player to see is just classless.
Yes, it is much better to have these discussions privately. Leave the kids out of it they are working their tails off. When they graduate they are fair game for discussion but before hand either say some something positive or say nothing at all.
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Not sure if it has been posted yet but Oklahoma’s Brady Manek is transferring to North Carolina
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https://twitter.com/DushawnLondon1/status/1385325088267018242
Dushawn London
@DushawnLondon1
Mississippi State, Wake Forest, Pitt, Marquette, and Oregon St. are the latest schools to reach out to Coastal Carolina transfer Devante Jones source tells
@247Sports
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@3DevanteJ
@247SportsPortal
Very crafty player. Was POY in the Sun Belt this past season. Capable ball handler and slasher and loves him some steals. His steal% of 4.3% was top 20 in the country last season.
A little surprised because he's a 6'1" PG. I think our positions of need are on the wing and a big guy. He did play like a big man, averaged 7.2 boards a game despite his size. Looks like he could maybe start next Carton for a season before Kolek takes over.
Biggest concern with him is level of competition. Coastal Carolina only played two top 150 teams last season, #127 Wofford and #90 Pepperdine....and the game against Pepperdine was his worst of the season.
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PG is a position of need and you never can have enough of them in today's game - See Baylor Bears and Villanova for more info
Stevie Mitchell and Kolek are more offensive oriented guards. Makes sense to add a guard that can put pressure on the ball. This team was atrocious handling the ball last year in the backcourt. This is another player that can alleviate that.
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https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1385606307940601860
Boston College F Steffon Mitchell (SR) has entered the transfer portal. Grad transfer. https://verbalcommits.com/players/steffo
Sign me up. Would be a great grad transfer get if there is any interest... though I'm sure there will be interest from a lot of teams.
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I believe WoJo does the same for players on his watch, also. Don't you.
Is this a question?
I know of no evidence that Wojo wasn’t forthright with his players when he was in that position/employed.
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Luke was a transfer he had to sit out a year.
Players can decide what is the best fir for them. However, my opinion it is wrong to start a thread on Perez or any other player saying we think they should transfer. You can discuss this in a private setting, but posting it on an internet site for the player to see is just classless.
Your latter point is a great one.
On Luke, he committed to Buzz and had to play for Wojo after burning his redshirt. The freedom of movement rule is fairer for the players too as situations change when coaches leave.
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Cam'Ron Fletcher committed to Florida St.
https://247sports.com/Article/CamRon-Fletcher-commitment-Florida-State-Kentucky-transfer-164397330/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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This might fit under the category of "a broken clock is right twice a day", DePaul gets Jalen Terry from Oregon. A highly ranked recruit who rode the bench as a Freshman for the Ducks.
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This might fit under the category of "a broken clock is right twice a day", DePaul gets Jalen Terry from Oregon. A highly ranked recruit who rode the bench as a Freshman for the Ducks.
That’s a good pickup for them
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That’s a good pickup for them
Agreed. Sometimes the fit isn't right at School A but a good prospect blossoms at School B. Grimes and Quinerly are recent examples.
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Is this a question?
I know of no evidence that Wojo wasn’t forthright with his players when he was in that position/employed.
Wally might disagree
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Zagoria reporting that we've reached out to Oklahoma's Alondes Williams, a Milwaukee native
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19 (https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19)
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Agreed. Sometimes the fit isn't right at School A but a good prospect blossoms at School B. Grimes and Quinerly are recent examples.
It also could be that some players are not ready to play as freshmen. They need time to reach their potential. Grimes and Quinerly were much higher ranked recruits than our current freshmen, so you should expect them to need time to develop.
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It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards. A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes.
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Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream... maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...
It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards. A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes.
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Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream... maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...
Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
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Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
redshirting Cam might be a good move thinking a year ahead.
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redshirting Cam might be a good move thinking a year ahead.
Gonna be hard to redshirt a Grad Assistant
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Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
Further to this notion, The Badgers have employed this tactic for years . Ethan Happ being a prominent example.
My instinct is that Shaka gets everybody on campus and sees which of the freshman can contribute immediately, which can contribute by the end of the year and which need another year of development and take an elective redshirt. With 5 coming I would expect at least one in each category, but hard to precisely identify who.
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If anyone is going to redshirt, best candidate seems Itejere. Very raw, has only been playing the game barely 5 years.
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Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream... maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...
Especially when you redshirt a kid then they bail and play four years for someone else.
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It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards. A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes.
Redshirting doesn't fix the over commitment on scholarships. MU is still 1 over. If they add a Grad Transfer and 2 frosh redshirt, MU would still be 2 over.
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Zagoria reporting that we've reached out to Oklahoma's Alondes Williams, a Milwaukee native
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19 (https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19)
Alondes had 13 points and 3 Rebounds against Texas in March
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Redshirting doesn't fix the over commitment on scholarships. MU is still 1 over. If they add a Grad Transfer and 2 frosh redshirt, MU would still be 2 over.
I don't think Tulsa Warrior was implying that it would. Evening out the classes just means not having so many players in the same class. Redshirting Kam for instance would move him from the 5-person 21 class and put him with the 22 class.
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Gonna be hard to redshirt a Grad Assistant
...Jones(Kam?) I’m sure you knew whom I was referencing, but what’s a little snark on Scoop between fellow MU friends.
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Wally might disagree
Poor, poor Wally.
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I don't think Tulsa Warrior was implying that it would. Evening out the classes just means not having so many players in the same class. Redshirting Kam for instance would move him from the 5-person 21 class and put him with the 22 class.
It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.
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It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.
This really isn’t a “problem.” Players will transfer.
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It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.
1. Players will transfer or go pro.
2. Seniors won't come back for their extra year unless coach wants them to
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2. Seniors won't come back for their extra year unless coach wants them to
So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn’t want/couldn’t use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?
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So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn’t want/couldn’t use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?
That sounds about it in a nutshell.
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So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn’t want/couldn’t use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?
Lenny, I haven't said anything about Theo's transfer in this thread or any other thread other than a congratulations and I think maybe one post about saying injuries will determine how much time he gets there. I'm not sure where you're getting the above.
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So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn’t want/couldn’t use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?
I think it is more likely that Wojo was an intermediary between Duke and Theo after he was fired. Outside of Coach K saying he spoke with Theo when they worked out at Cameron, which isn't really tampering, there is no evidence to suggest that Wojo set this up in February.
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Vandy's Dylan Disu has entered the Transfer Portal. This was a surprise. Averaged 15 and 9 before injury. Was expected to be an elite SEC Player this upcoming year. He's from suburban Austin, TX. Bryce Drew was able to recruit him to Vandy, and, he was well developed under Jerry Stackhouse.
Dylan Disu has committed to Texas.
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I think it is more likely that Wojo was an intermediary between Duke and Theo after he was fired.
I guess that would be kosher, but as I understood the “Scoop narrative” Theo worked out for K when the team was in North Carolina and K liked what he saw.
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I guess that would be kosher, but as I understood the “Scoop narrative” Theo worked out for K when the team was in North Carolina and K liked what he saw.
Per Ben Steele interview
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Per Ben Steele interview
So the narrative has a source who reported that Wojo was shopping/showcasing Theo to K when Wojo was still employed by MU. With Shaka running things it’s no big loss - but what if Wojo had been retained - which many here insisted was a “fact”? Doesn’t seem kosher.
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So the narrative has a source who reported that Wojo was shopping/showcasing Theo to K when Wojo was still employed by MU. With Shaka running things it’s no big loss - but what if Wojo had been retained - which many here insisted was a “fact”? Doesn’t seem kosher.
Yawn
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So the narrative has a source who reported that Wojo was shopping/showcasing Theo to K when Wojo was still employed by MU. With Shaka running things it’s no big loss - but what if Wojo had been retained - which many here insisted was a “fact”? Doesn’t seem kosher.
It's like you're talking about The Narrative as a person. I like where this fanfic is going!
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1. Players will transfer or go pro.
2. Seniors won't come back for their extra year unless coach wants them to
Bingo...simple enough. Great explanation....
No worries.
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So the narrative has a source who reported that Wojo was shopping/showcasing Theo to K when Wojo was still employed by MU. With Shaka running things it’s no big loss - but what if Wojo had been retained - which many here insisted was a “fact”? Doesn’t seem kosher.
You seriously believe this is what happened? After everything and how it all played out? Just an evil plot by Wojo to destroy MU BBall while he was still the coach and expected to continue being the coach? Really?
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Dexter in the portal
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Dexter in the portal
Goodluck Dexter.
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So the narrative has a source who reported that Wojo was shopping/showcasing Theo to K when Wojo was still employed by MU. With Shaka running things it’s no big loss - but what if Wojo had been retained - which many here insisted was a “fact”? Doesn’t seem kosher.
What exactly are we doing here?
MU worked out at Cameron Indoor. Coach K was obviously there and talked to Theo. He may have talked with many other players as well because that's what coaches do.
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Dexter in the portal
Best of luck. Saw it coming. Don't think he's the last.
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What exactly are we doing here?
MU worked out at Cameron Indoor. Coach K was obviously there and talked to Theo. He may have talked with many other players as well because that's what coaches do.
Plus, it seems like MU may not be allowing 5th year guys back. Cain put MU as his list of choices, but wouldn’t be the first time a school in the Final 3 wasn’t really an option.
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Dexter in the portal
Bummer. Was excited for Dexter. Who knows what Covid did to his opportunity last season. Wish him the very best!
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Dexter in the portal
Like clockwork.
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Well if Dawson doesn't return, it looks like we have our 13 man roster (for now).
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Well if Dawson doesn't return, it looks like we have our 13 man roster (for now).
We still aren't done.
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We still aren't done.
Incoming or outgoing or both?
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Well, certainly will have to be outgoing regardless of incoming.
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We still aren't done.
Hence the "for now".
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Dexter in the portal
Well this makes some sense. Good luck Dex.
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Incoming or outgoing or both?
Both.
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I mean, no ill will towards the guy, but have to imagine Perez was on the chopping block before Dexter. Not really sure how he fits in and would be very surprised if he is on the roster come fall.
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Both.
Hmm well I hope its good news not bad
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Looking at other recent entries into the portal (i.e., those in the last 24 hours), I'm seeing a lot that already have a new school listed. So obviously there are discussions happening between player and potential suitors prior to entering the portal, which perhaps explains the delay from Dexter (and Perez? and Greg?). I guess we'll see how soon Dexter finds a new landing spot.
As others have said, I could see Shaka and the staff working their contacts to try to find a good fit for these guys.
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Does anyone know our updated t-rank by adding OMP and Kuath? And what it would be with Morsell in the fold?
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I mean, no ill will towards the guy, but have to imagine Perez was on the chopping block before Dexter. Not really sure how he fits in and would be very surprised if he is on the roster come fall.
Since it's likely Perez would have to sit out, I'd be surprised if he WANTS to transfer. He's also been pretty active practicing with the team, but maybe I'm reading too much into that.
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Since it's likely Perez would have to sit out, I'd be surprised if he WANTS to transfer. He's also been pretty active practicing with the team, but maybe I'm reading too much into that.
For sure. I feel like the NCAA would probably do something for a guy like Perez in that situation, but as of now, yeah....kind of a crapty situation for him if he's asked to leave and he can't get some sort of waiver.
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For sure. I feel like the NCAA would probably do something for a guy like Perez in that situation, but as of now, yeah....kind of a crapty situation for him if he's asked to leave and he can't get some sort of waiver.
Or, Perez might actually be pretty good. Draw your own conclusions on why he didn't show that much last year.
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Good luck to Dexter. Hope he finds a venue that can realize on his potential.
Stan was a big advocate of Dexter, so interesting to see if he recruits him to Loyola Marymount. Would be a homecoming to Southern California for Dexter .
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Best Wishes Dexter
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Does anyone know our updated t-rank by adding OMP and Kuath? And what it would be with Morsell in the fold?
The way T-Rank calculates is based on 10 contributed using estimated minutes based previous year examples. Freshman are purely judged based on comparable rankings of previous freshman so Marquette is harmed with that.
We are currently at 50 with OMP and Kuath added. Interesting enough subtracting Perez from the roster raises us to 48.
Adding Morsell would involve 2 subtractions from the roster. I assumed Perez to be 1 of the subtractions. With Elliot as the other, we drop 1 spot to 51. With Oso as the subtraction, we increase to 44. With Dawson as the doomsday scenario in this case, we drop to 73. Obviously losing Dawson would be awful but was interesting to see lack of an impact Elliot to Morsell made on rankings.
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Honest question - if Elliott were to leave, who is going to make threes on this team? I admittedly and not an expert on all of the new guys coming in. But definitely seems to me like Greg has a role on this team.
Or, Perez might actually be pretty good. Draw your own conclusions on why he didn't show that much last year.
Ehhh. I think Perez made it pretty clear he is not a high major contributor. He made it clear he can play against low major teams, and I don't doubt he could find some top 150 type team he could contribute to. Maybe its Marquette. But I just don't really see the fit. All this is asterisked by the fact that we may not have ever seen Perez at his best, or even healthy at all. So his SSS may not be fair to judge him on, but that's all I got.
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For sure. I feel like the NCAA would probably do something for a guy like Perez in that situation, but as of now, yeah....kind of a crapty situation for him if he's asked to leave and he can't get some sort of waiver.
There's a waiver available for a coaching change.
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I want Greg in an MU jersey next year. Some senior MU stability.
Having said that, if I’m Greg (and I’ve already gotten my degree from MU), I’m looking at going to Oakland and spending a year hooping it up in the horizon with my pal Jamal. I think those two could really make Oakland a top team in the Horizon league.
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Having said that, if I’m Greg (and I’ve already gotten my degree from MU), I’m looking at going to Oakland
If I am Greg, I am looking at University of Hawaii, or Pepperdine. But that is just me.
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I like Greg, and hope he somehow qualifies for the roster exception, but I wouldn't be too sad if he doesn't qualify for the exception and moves on.
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Honest question - if Elliott were to leave, who is going to make threes on this team? I admittedly and not an expert on all of the new guys coming in. But definitely seems to me like Greg has a role on this team.
Ehhh. I think Perez made it pretty clear he is not a high major contributor. He made it clear he can play against low major teams, and I don't doubt he could find some top 150 type team he could contribute to. Maybe its Marquette. But I just don't really see the fit. All this is asterisked by the fact that we may not have ever seen Perez at his best, or even healthy at all. So his SSS may not be fair to judge him on, but that's all I got.
Playing devil's advocate-His freshman year he score 10 against VA, 16 against VCU, and 9 against VA Tech. His sophomore year, he scored 12 against UNC, and 12 against So Carolina. Granted, I have not watched one minute of these games.
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Playing devil's advocate-His freshman year he score 10 against VA,
He actually scored 19 against the National Champions on 7/10 shooting.
I think Perez is better than what he showed. COVID messed him up. That being said, I'm not certain he's a match for what Shaka wants.
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Playing devil's advocate-His freshman year he score 10 against VA, 16 against VCU, and 9 against VA Tech. His sophomore year, he scored 12 against UNC, and 12 against So Carolina. Granted, I have not watched one minute of these games.
Yeah, based on how quickly the ball went in the air everytime it touched his hands, I am not shocked he scored some points against high major opponents as he was probably one of the best 2-3 players on his terrible team. But he definitely lacks the athleticism and size to impact Big East games when his roster is full of high level D1 players. None of this is meant to bad mouth Jose. If he sticks around I will cheer for him like I do all MU guys. But seeing as though we're at 14 guys and sounds like Morsell is likely to come from those that claim to be in the know, that means 2 out of 3 of Dawson, Jose and Greg are not going to on this roster.
It is so refreshing to see a coach actually use his scholarships, btw. I blasted Wojo annually for continually punting scholarships and then got blasted here for that opinion. But that's what they are for, and self imposing scholarships penalties for no reason is precisely why Marquette always seemed to be down to 8-9 active players at some point of each season in Wojo's tenure.
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Yeah, based on how quickly the ball went in the air everytime it touched his hands, I am not shocked he scored some points against high major opponents as he was probably one of the best 2-3 players on his terrible team. But he definitely lacks the athleticism and size to impact Big East games when his roster is full of high level D1 players. None of this is meant to bad mouth Jose. If he sticks around I will cheer for him like I do all MU guys. But seeing as though we're at 14 guys and sounds like Morsell is likely to come from those that claim to be in the know, that means 2 out of 3 of Dawson, Jose and Greg are not going to on this roster.
It is so refreshing to see a coach actually use his scholarships, btw. I blasted Wojo annually for continually punting scholarships and then got blasted here for that opinion. But that's what they are for, and self imposing scholarships penalties for no reason is precisely why Marquette always seemed to be down to 8-9 active players at some point of each season in Wojo's tenure.
And a full roster of players also gives you more opportunities to develop guys and maybe get some unexpected contributions. Sure you’ll see some transfers out and I get that baking a scholarship can provide some flexibility but that’s probably overrated.
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It is so refreshing to see a coach actually use his scholarships, btw. I blasted Wojo annually for continually punting scholarships and then got blasted here for that opinion. But that's what they are for, and self imposing scholarships penalties for no reason is precisely why Marquette always seemed to be down to 8-9 active players at some point of each season in Wojo's tenure.
Just to prepare you, Shaka didn't use all of his scholarships most years at Texas. It's very common for coaches to not use all of their scholarships.
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He actually scored 19 against the National Champions on 7/10 shooting.
I think Perez is better than what he showed. COVID messed him up. That being said, I'm not certain he's a match for what Shaka wants.
Thanks for that, my old fat fingers typed it wrong. I said it before, but I think Jose's game is similar to how Wes plays in the NBA.
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Just to prepare you, Shaka didn't use all of his scholarships most years at Texas. It's very common for coaches to not use all of their scholarships.
Do you have a link that shows his scholarship players each year during his Texas days? Would be curious to see it.
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Do you have a link that shows his scholarship players each year during his Texas days? Would be curious to see it.
You can go to UT official roster and look at past seasons. Most seasons 1 or 2 walk ons ended up with schollies. I think he had one season with 13 scholarship players.
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Thanks for that, my old fat fingers typed it wrong. I said it before, but I think Jose's game is similar to how Wes plays in the NBA.
A 3 and D guy? Yeah, I don't see that in Perez, at all. Not that he is bashful at chucking the 3's.
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You can go to UT official roster and look at past seasons. Most seasons 1 or 2 walk ons ended up with schollies. I think he had one season with 13 scholarship players.
Gotcha - yeah always difficult to determine who are walk ons on university website rosters.
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Well if Dawson doesn't return, it looks like we have our 13 man roster (for now).
There is definitely more coming. Both ways.
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A 3 and D guy? Yeah, I don't see that in Perez, at all. Not that he is bashful at chucking the 3's.
For sure. A lot like Wes, except he can’t shoot or play defense. Perez is 28-107 from 3 the last 2 seasons.
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There's a waiver available for a coaching change.
For second time transfers?
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Honest question - if Elliott were to leave, who is going to make threes on this team? I admittedly and not an expert on all of the new guys coming in. But definitely seems to me like Greg has a role on this team.
Ehhh. I think Perez made it pretty clear he is not a high major contributor. He made it clear he can play against low major teams, and I don't doubt he could find some top 150 type team he could contribute to. Maybe its Marquette. But I just don't really see the fit. All this is asterisked by the fact that we may not have ever seen Perez at his best, or even healthy at all. So his SSS may not be fair to judge him on, but that's all I got.
That asterisk is so large that not one Marquette fan has an accurate handle on what Perez provides.
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That asterisk is so large that not one Marquette fan has an accurate handle on what Perez provides.
How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?
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How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?
Irrelevant to the discussion of what he provided to the Marquette program.
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Irrelevant to the discussion of what he provided to the Marquette program.
Haha, Yah I’m gonna disagree that Perez’s two seasons at Gardner Webb are irrelevant to what he can bring to the table for Marquette. Especially with how he looked in his minimal playing time in 21. We have three seasons of data points - to just ignore them all is an interest take.
But if he’s on the team, I hope he has a monster season! I’ll leave it at that.
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How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?
What have you done for me lately?
There is a lot to be said for small sample size.
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What have you done for me lately?
There is a lot to be said for small sample size.
Two years is a small sample size???
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How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?
His stats as a Freshman were not that bad. PER 20.3, AST%18.7, Usage 26.0. Compare that to Markus' Freshman Year. PER 23.1, AST% 19.9, Usage 26.7. Not too different. Granted, his Soph year was less than stellar.
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Lawdog is correct. Jose's freshman year stats were excellent. If he had come out then, he would have been one of the hottest names in the portal. His sophomore year was not great, high usage, low efficiency. The hope was always that the staff could bring out freshman year Jose. I think a redshirt would've been helpful for him.
Jose's last season has an asterisk by it in my eyes. The kid was sidelined with covid for months during the offseason. It impacted his development and his conditioning. He gave it a go against APB but afterwards he and the coaches agreed that he wasn't physically ready to play and sat him until he got back in fighting shape. Injuries forced their hand and he played at the end of the season and was clearly not good.
It might be that he was never meant to be a high major player. But if Shaka wants to give him a chance, I think he might surprise some next season. An entire offseason to get back in shape and develop could be all he needs to be a solid rotation player in the BEAST.
All that being said, my guess is that Jose ends up elsewhere next season.
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I trust my eyes. He’s not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.
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I trust my eyes. He’s not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.
And you probably only watched him last year. When he had Covid knock him on his ass for several months.
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I trust my eyes. He’s not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.
He's listed as a 6-5, 210 lb guard. Plenty big enough.
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Not that I really care, but there has been more support for Perez over past couple of weeks than he received during '20-'21 basketball season. I do not realize he was a fan favorite to some on here.
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Not that I really care, but there has been more support for Perez over past couple of weeks than he received during '20-'21 basketball season. I do not realize he was a fan favorite to some on here.
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt in terms of:
1. COVID
2. Having a Coach that actually has a structure/plan of action
3. The kid held his own against the high majors when he was at Gardner Webb
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Yeah people are making up Scoop overhyping players just so they can feign outrage here. Just like nobody was claiming Kuath is a potential All American or even All Big East player, nobody is saying Jose is going to be our best player or that they're driving the Jose bandwagon. They're just saying there's a chance he can contribute and last year might not have been representative of what he can be at his best.
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I am giving him the benefit of the doubt in terms of:
1. COVID
2. Having a Coach that actually has a structure/plan of action
3. The kid held his own against the high majors when he was at Gardner Webb
im not. evidence he even had covid?
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im not. evidence he even had covid?
When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.
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I actually liked some of what Perez showed last year. I don’t think he’s a lost cause at all.
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When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.
Dodds is dumb. Jose had covid last summer.
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I actually liked some of what Perez showed last year. I don’t think he’s a lost cause at all.
I did like that he was able to get in the post with his frame and get a decent shot off. The problem is he never or rarely made them.
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I never thought he looked in shape. Of course we can cut him some slack because of the virus but I didn't see enough to be optimistic about.
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Officially official, spelled out with timeline:
https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1387517450648961027?s=21
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When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.
Dodds is a one trick pony. All about keeping the court side seat.
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I was bearish on Perez when Wojo recruited him and my opinion hasn't changed.
I see a low major player that got hot a handful of games against top 50 teams his freshman year.
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So I'm just now coming to terms with the fact that, if Dawson does end up leaving, this team is going to be pretty bad next year.
I know its a rebuild and Shaka is bringing in his guys and it would be nice to honestly just see some growth and development over the course of the season for once, but having another bad year next year would be a bummer. I think having Dawson back is the difference between a bubble team and another year near the bottom of the BE.
Edit - This was posted about 15 minutes before Carton announced he was going pro. So yeah not great.
Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120
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So I'm just now coming to terms with the fact that, if Dawson does end up leaving, this team is going to be pretty bad next year.
I know its a rebuild and Shaka is bringing in his guys and it would be nice to honestly just see some growth and development over the course of the season for once, but having another bad year next year would be a bummer. I think having Dawson back is the difference between a bubble team and another year near the bottom of the BE.
Edit - This was posted about 15 minutes before Carton announced he was going pro. So yeah not great.
Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120
As built now, this team is bad next year without Dawson. Like I said in the DJ thread, a lot can change, however.
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Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120
Yeah, the new guys could certainly surprise to the upside. But having a "proven" guard next year (even with the TOs) was kinda' the anchor of my optimism.
Edit: optimism for next year. Certainly I think Shaka is building well for a couple years from now.
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Well, we’re back to needing a legit transfer guard if next year is going to be anything close to a tourney level team. DJ had his flaws, but I was super optimistic about him running the team next year. Without him, as things currently stand with or without Dawson, this team isn’t very good. Thankfully there is still time, but obviously not many spots to work with.
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Well, we’re back to needing a legit transfer guard if next year is going to be anything close to a tourney level team. DJ had his flaws, but I was super optimistic about him running the team next year. Without him, as things currently stand with or without Dawson, this team isn’t very good. Thankfully there is still time, but obviously not many spots to work with.
Yup. Perez and Elliot are our seasoned point guards.
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what top guard transfers are even out there. maybe morsell?
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what top guard transfers are even out there. maybe morsell?
Morsell can’t really score tho. We need a dude who can get his. Not sure that guy exists in the portal honestly. Man, what a kick to the nuts.
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what top guard transfers are even out there. maybe morsell?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30820857/college-basketball-transfer-rankings-2021-22
Carr, Miller, Akinjo, Harmon - Of course, none of which we've been in contact with. Besides Morsell, I dont think we're in on any of the top G's available.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30820857/college-basketball-transfer-rankings-2021-22
Carr, Miller, Akinjo, Harmon - Of course, none of which we've been in contact with. Besides Morsell, I dont think we're in on any of the top G's available.
Didn’t realize Akinjo was available again. Loved that dudes game at Gtown.
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Moresell is thought to be heavily leaning pro. Not likely to get him.
I said two weeks ago I felt DJ may enter draft. This is not surprising news. When he transferred last spring, sentiment was we would only have him one year.
Great opportunity for Ellis and Kolek.
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Yup. Perez and Elliot are our seasoned point guards.
Perez a PG? I don’t think so
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Didn’t realize Akinjo was available again. Loved that dudes game at Gtown.
Scratch that, he's committed to Baylor already. In fact, all those guys have been committed, the link hadn't been updated in a week or so ;D
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what top guard transfers are even out there. maybe morsell?
Isn’t there a dude that was sunbelt conference poy that most consider the top player in the portal still available?
Don’t remember his name but maybe Shaka gonna coppa?
I read something the other day that said MU has shown interest and Juwan was prioritizing and I was confused why Shaka would show interest
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Isn’t there a dude that was sunbelt conference poy that most consider the top player in the portal still available?
Don’t remember his name but maybe Shaka gonna coppa?
I read something the other day that said MU has shown interest and Juwan was prioritizing and I was confused why Shaka would show interest
DeVante Jones from Coastal Carolina but Michigan folks are pretty confident in landing him. He announces this weekend
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Is Dexter Akanno available?
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Is Dexter Akanno available?
Summer 2020 mixtape Akanno?
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DeVante Jones from Coastal Carolina but Michigan folks are pretty confident in landing him. He announces this weekend
Yea DeVante. This would make a crape ton more sense if he was coming on down
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Yea DeVante. This would make a crape ton more sense if he was coming on down
I don't think DJ was making any pro decisions based on a transfer coming in or going. Especially one that is deciding this weekend between 4 schools, none of which are MU.
We're just going to have to accept that we won't be getting a high level replacement for DJ. Best spin is that this will be good to "reboot" so to speak as a program. Let the young kids grow and play for a couple years from now.
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Per ESPN Ticker. Transfer Rule clears last hurdle. Transfers can transfer first time and be immediately eligible for the first transfer is my understanding.
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Per ESPN Ticker. Transfer Rule clears last hurdle. Transfers can transfer first time and be immediately eligible for the first transfer is my understanding.
Is this for every season in the future or just 21-22?
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Moresell is thought to be heavily leaning pro. Not likely to get him.
Wouldn't be so sure.
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Is this for every season in the future or just 21-22?
Believe every season but am not sure
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Associated Press
INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA Division I Board of Directors ratified a rule change Wednesday that will allow all athletes who have not yet transferred the ability to do so one time in a college career and be immediately eligible to play.
The Division I Council adopted the proposed legislation earlier this month. The board took the last step to make the historic rule change official and the NCAA clarified some of the details in a news release.
The one-time exception had been previously available to some athletes, just not those in football, basketball, baseball and men's ice hockey. Now it will be available to all athletes who have not yet transferred, starting with the 2021-22 academic year.
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NCAA 1-time transfer rule clears last step, starts with 2021-22 academic year
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Looks like Shaka is wasting no time:
Per Adam Zagoria, "Schools that have already reached out on former St. Joe's standout Jordan Hall, who averaged 10.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg.
Marquette
Nebraska
Minnesota
Ole Miss
DePaul
Texas A&M"
Only a freshman. Shot 35% from 3 and 76% from the line. 6'8", 210. Would be a heck of a response from losing DJ.
Had 6, 5, and 5 against Kansas in his 2nd career game.
Had 17, 6, and 6 against Villanova in his 4th career game.
Had a game with 12 rebounds, had a game with 11 assists, had a game with 3 steals. Seems like he'd be an absolute home run.
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Looks like Shaka is wasting no time:
Per Adam Zagoria, "Schools that have already reached out on former St. Joe's standout Jordan Hall, who averaged 10.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg.
Marquette
Nebraska
Minnesota
Ole Miss
DePaul
Texas A&M"
Only a freshman. Shot 35% from 3 and 76% from the line. 6'8", 210. Would be a heck of a response from losing DJ.
6 assists per game from a 6'8" freshman? Yes please.
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Looks like Shaka is wasting no time:
Per Adam Zagoria, "Schools that have already reached out on former St. Joe's standout Jordan Hall, who averaged 10.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg.
Marquette
Nebraska
Minnesota
Ole Miss
DePaul
Texas A&M"
Only a freshman. Shot 35% from 3 and 76% from the line. 6'8", 210. Would be a heck of a response from losing DJ.
6'7" PG with a sky-high assist rate? sign me up!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTV0N7pIrEA
Here are his freshman year highlights. I love this guy's game. Definitely not the most athletic, but he can use his size to get around smaller defenders at PG. And his vision is incredible, would be the best passer Marquette has had in a loooonnngggg time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTV0N7pIrEA
Here are his freshman year highlights. I love this guy's game. Definitely not the most athletic, but he can use his size to get around smaller defenders at PG. And his vision is incredible, would be the best passer Marquette has had in a loooonnngggg time.
A very intriguing prospect, with size and passing skills.
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Looks like Shaka is wasting no time:
Per Adam Zagoria, "Schools that have already reached out on former St. Joe's standout Jordan Hall, who averaged 10.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg.
Marquette
Nebraska
Minnesota
Ole Miss
DePaul
Texas A&M"
Only a freshman. Shot 35% from 3 and 76% from the line. 6'8", 210. Would be a heck of a response from losing DJ.
Had 6, 5, and 5 against Kansas in his 2nd career game.
Had 17, 6, and 6 against Villanova in his 4th career game.
Had a game with 12 rebounds, had a game with 11 assists, had a game with 3 steals. Seems like he'd be an absolute home run.
Maybe there are other interested schools but if that's the list I'd feel like we have a really good shot. At that size and with those numbers I'm surprised there aren't some other "name" programs recruiting him.
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Give me Hall, Oquendo and Moresell and move forward with that roster.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTV0N7pIrEA
Here are his freshman year highlights. I love this guy's game. Definitely not the most athletic, but he can use his size to get around smaller defenders at PG. And his vision is incredible, would be the best passer Marquette has had in a loooonnngggg time.
Yes a 6'7 scoring FR PG who very well could have been A10 rookie of the year? Could there be a better fit for Shaka and MU one day after DJ leaves? Makes you wonder about the timing of things (teal? maybe not?)
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Interesting Quinnipiac player story that involves Buzz Williams and maybe the only player in the COVID extra year portal to transfer back to his previous team.
Buzz is legendary?
https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/nhregister/article/Jeff-Jacobs-From-Hamden-to-Texas-and-back-16137279.php?_ga=2.261241540.875382935.1619717046-812962984.1594303534
Quinnipiac’s Marfo is on the rebound
JEFF JACOBS
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Peter Hvizdak / Hearst Connecticut Media
Quinnipiac’s Kevin Marfo hauls down a rebound during the first half against Fairfield in 2020.
When he left Quinnipiac last spring for Texas A&M, bachelor’s degree in hand, the nation’s leading rebounder figured he’d never pull on a Bobcats uniform again.
Who knew?
There are 1,400 stories in the world of the 2021 NCAA men’s basketball transfer portal. Kevin Marfo is one of the more compelling. Yes, #OneBadMarfo is back in town.
“I never expected myself to be back in Hamden, because I thought I only had one year left of college basketball,” Marfo said. “It’s going to be one of those weird, twilight things, where it’s like ‘Wow!’ I have to find a way to adjust back to find success on the court.”
It may be a little cheesy and more than a little cliché, but it’s true. Quinnipiac got Kevin Marfo on the rebound.
“This was an easy one for me,” Quinnipiac coach Baker Dunleavy said. “Kevin loves basketball. He loves to work. He loves to compete. That’s what makes him special. Those haven’t changed. I think he has a better appreciation that this place is pretty good, was pretty good to me, I have a better perspective on things.
“We do, too, especially me as coach, a better perspective on how much we appreciate what Kevin brought to the table. We can come back together on those terms, it’s a resounding positive.”
After pounding the glass harder than anyone in the nation, 13.3 rebounds a game in 2019-2020, Marfo wanted the challenge of a major conference. He picked Buzz Williams’ Aggies of the SEC. As a graduate transfer, Marfo didn’t perform as well as he wanted. In a COVID season, he missed the month of February with COVID.
“I was sick,” Marfo said. “A lot of body aches.”
With the NCAA giving everyone an extra year of eligibility, COVID also would give Marfo one more chance. He decided to return to Quinnipiac, where he scored 441 points and pulled in 586 rebounds in two seasons, including 17 double-doubles in 2019-2020.
“It was more of a situation of how crazy this year was, especially with COVID, and not really having a chance at a full season at A&M,” Marfo said. “It wasn’t a great year for me personally. A lot of things took its toll, obviously just the journey itself.
“I’ve done this recruiting thing way too often. I kind of got to the point where I’m going to go back to something familiar and just go from there. I don’t want to take a risk of going to a new place. I was kind of over that idea.”
Raised in New Jersey, the son of Ghanaian immigrants developed his game at Worcester Academy. It was Donovan Mitchell, now with the NBA’s Utah Jazz, an AAU teammate, who encouraged him to go the prep route. Boston College, Rhode Island and Providence recruited him. He picked George Washington, which had won the 2016 NIT. Only Mike Lonergan was fired as coach before Marfo played a game and he sought a transfer after his freshman season. Dunleavy, who had met Marfo at Worcester Academy when he was an assistant at Villa-nova, landed him.
Marfo had to sit out a transfer season in 2017-2018 … GW, sit, Quinnipiac, Texas A&M, Quinnipiac, yeah, Kevin Marfo’s over this recruiting thing.
“Given the environment of what’s going on, there’s going to be a learning curve anytime there’s a drastic change,” Dunleavy said. “Whether it’s any business or environment. This year’s there’s going to be a huge reaction and a lot of people going into that portal. Lessons will be learned by coaches, players, administrators on how to handle these situations the best. Learn from people’s experiences.
“Kevin played incredible basketball for us. He had a lot of opportunity out there. I said it last year when we lost him: We support our guys being able to explore their options. It’s not the same as it used to be. The traditionalists that long for the days of kids staying at the same place for 4-5 years — their motivation through thick and thin — it’s different now. The mindset is different.”
Marfo took advantage of his chance to complete his degree at Quinnipiac and become immediately eligible.
“The opportunity to play at a high level, an opportunity to get coached by a legendary coach like Buzz Williams, to become a better player and hopefully propel my career — that was the goal,” Marfo said. “I learned a lot more. It was a great experience. Anyone who has played for Buzz Williams knows that Buzz grinds you out. He really tests your mental on another level, more than any coach I’ve ever played for.
“It gave me a different perspective. It taught me a lot of things I’m going to be able to use at Quinnipiac. It helped propel my career in a good direction, just not in a direction that people who don’t know would understand.”
Marfo started eight of 17 games, averaging 12.8 minutes, 2.6 points and 3.7 rebounds. Modest numbers. Texas A&M, which lost all of February because of COVID, finished 8-10, including 2-8 in the SEC, and saw nine players enter the transfer portal.
“I didn’t play great,” said Marfo, who got on the floor 11 minutes in the two games after Jan. 31. “It was a lot of different things that didn’t go my way. I’m just going to take responsibility. I could have been better in some areas. At that level, you’ve got to win, and we weren’t winning a lot of games.”
Marfo, who is still hammering out his academic path for next year, said he wanted to finish his college career the right way. He hit reset.
Said Dunleavy, “If I only get one more year in this, where do I know I’ll be comfortable, happy, productive and fit? That was the mindset he took when we talked. The answer from Kevin is a resounding yes. Because that’s his motivation that has me excited, too.”
These days, coaches essentially are recruiting high school players, off other college rosters and their own players for the following season. It doesn’t pay for either side to burn bridges.
“There was never any animosity with Kevin,” Dunleavy said. “He was very professional and very respectful with the way he handled everything. There was never anything intended to be negative toward Quinnipiac. It was more exploring what was best for him. That’s how I chose to look at it. I understand every coach looks at it differently. I try to make a point to try not to take things personally in life. Sometimes it is personal. This was not. If it was this wouldn’t be happening.”
“There’s up and downs with any coach, but it was left in a respectful manner,” Marfo said. “It made the transition back easier. And I think it was a smooth process with the guys because of the relationship I had with all of them. I was in contact with almost every player on the team when I was at A&M. They all want the best for me. There’s a lot of hungry guys. They want to compete.”
Although Dunleavy has no committed freshmen for next year, he has added guard Dezi Jones from Moberly (Mo.) Area Community College. He returns all his major contributors, and everyone had the option to return. There are two open scholarships. It looks good that senior Jacob Rigoni, who led the Bobcats at 11.8 points and 6.3 rebounds, will return. Suddenly, there’s a lot of stability and promise on a team that finished 9-13.
Then again, when Marfo transferred to A&M and Rich Kelly to BC last spring, who would have guessed Kelly would now be at UMass and Marfo back at Quinnipiac. It’s a crazy college basketball world.
“My gosh, how much falls under that category?” Dunleavy said. “The pandemic, the pauses in the season, everybody getting another year. It’s a whirlwind. It’s testing everybody’s, players and coaches, ability to adapt.”
jeff.jacobs @hearstmediact.com; @jeffjacobs123
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6 assists per game from a 6'8" freshman? Yes please.
Last 5 games had 3, 2, 6, 3 and 4 TOs. And came agains UMass, LaSalle, Richmond, Dayton and LaSalle. Richmond was the only decent team and he had 6. Just saying.
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Give me Hall, Oquendo and Moresell and move forward with that roster.
Getting all 3 would require someone other than Greg, Jose, and Dawson to leave. Ill take any 2/3 though.
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Getting all 3 would require someone other than Greg, Jose, and Dawson to leave. Ill take any 2/3 though.
No, if Dawson, Jose and Greg all left, there would be 3 openings. We're currently full at 13 including Dawson.
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Is Morsell really still in play? Looks like Turgeon's putting out that he'll be a pro.
If not so, he's be my prime suspect.
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Is Morsell really still in play? Looks like Turgeon's putting out that he'll be a pro.
If not so, he's be my prime suspect.
Without question. He dominated us in Orlando scoring 17 points and 10 rebounds all while completely neutralizing the MU goat Howard (1/12 shooting, 4 TOs). Proven high major talent.
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Is Morsell really still in play? Looks like Turgeon's putting out that he'll be a pro.
If not so, he's be my prime suspect.
Turgeon seems to think Morsell is leaving Maryland to go pro. I think he's half right.
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Is Morsell really still in play? Looks like Turgeon's putting out that he'll be a pro.
If not so, he's be my prime suspect.
I think the rumors of him going pro are greatly exaggerated.
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I think the rumors of him going pro are greatly exaggerated.
He should spend a year here working on his jumper ;D
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He should spend a year here working on his jumper ;D
And his PG skills....
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https://twitter.com/336edits/status/1388183385684811778
336 Edits
@336edits
Louisiana transfer Mylik Wilson has told 336edits he’s heard from Georgia, Vanderbilt, Witchita St, Marquette, Creighton, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Wyoming, UAB, Mississippi State and SFA. Wilson averaged 12.9 points and 5.5 rebounds this past season for the Ragin' Cajuns.
@mylikw13
This one wouldn't excite me much. Put up good but not great numbers for a meh Rajin Cajuns squad....that being said....the one thing he's really good at is stealing the ball. Was top 50 in steal rate as a FR and top 70 as a SO. Shaka looking to put a premium on creating turnovers. Havocs back baby!
I also like that he averaged a block a game as 6'3 2G.
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Luke Fizulich to transfer portal.
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DeVante' Jones to Michigan, per Tipton Edits' Instagram.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
Who knows when we reached out. If it is recent, that may indicate some pessimism regarding Garcia.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
A 6'7" guard who "led the Orange in rebounds last season and finished second in scoring, field goal percentage and blocked shots"? I'd be ok with that
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Would be a nice trade for Symir.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
Interesting name to the portal. Would be a nice addition for sure. Sounds like he needs work on the jumper, but is improving.
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Who knows when we reached out. If it is recent, that may indicate some pessimism regarding Garcia.
I don't think you need a reason to reach out to a guy who was All-ACC last season
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Who knows when we reached out. If it is recent, that may indicate some pessimism regarding Garcia.
I am assuming Garcia is gone. If he happens to return, I will consider it a wonderful surprise.
But this:
I don't think you need a reason to reach out to a guy who was All-ACC last season
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So I'm just now coming to terms with the fact that, if Dawson does end up leaving, this team is going to be pretty bad next year.
I know its a rebuild and Shaka is bringing in his guys and it would be nice to honestly just see some growth and development over the course of the season for once, but having another bad year next year would be a bummer. I think having Dawson back is the difference between a bubble team and another year near the bottom of the BE.
Edit - This was posted about 15 minutes before Carton announced he was going pro. So yeah not great.
Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120
Do you really think we're done making moves?
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Who knows when we reached out. If it is recent, that may indicate some pessimism regarding Garcia.
Him and Dawson had basically identical seasons last year. Would be pretty negligent to not reach out, regardless of where Dawson is leaning.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
Very good player. Montreal native, like O-Max. Maybe they know each other.
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Do you really think we're done making moves?
Please read my post again, maybe a little more closely, and tell me where I said that.
Do you really think we will bring in guys impactful enough to replace both Dawson and Carton?
Only player with some smoke is Morsell, who is a fine player but not nearly enough of a needle mover. The others are just good young players to whom we've "reached out" (aka odds against us bringing in). Good young players are great, and would be very happy for someone like Hall, but lets be honest we can't count on guys like him to be immediate big time players.
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I don't think you need a reason to reach out to a guy who was All-ACC last season
Exactly.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
Last name is French for warrior. Done deal.
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Do you really think we will bring in guys impactful enough to replace both Dawson and Carton?
Yeh, it’s going to be tonight to find player better than the ones that lead us to an 8th place conference finish (in weak big East)
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Do you really think we will bring in guys impactful enough to replace both Dawson and Carton?
Yeh, it’s going to be tonight to find player better than the ones that lead us to an 8th place conference finish (in weak big East)
Garcia isn’t leaving. Not sure why this board is so pessimistic about him.
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Garcia isn’t leaving. Not sure why this board is so pessimistic about him.
Can you please provide a link or other information supporting your opinion? Thanks!
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Garcia isn’t leaving. Not sure why this board is so pessimistic about him.
Dawson Garcia left campus shortly after the season and still remains at home in Minnesota. He hasn't been participated in team workouts and he hasn't withdrawn his name yet from the draft pool.
Why are you certain that Dawson Garcia will be back?
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Dawson Garcia left campus shortly after the season and still remains at home in Minnesota. He hasn't been participated in team workouts and he hasn't withdrawn his name yet from the draft pool.
Why are you certain that Dawson Garcia will be back?
I honestly have no idea what's going to happen so I just assume it's a coin flip. Although I am a bit curious why he hasn't put his name in the portal if he was sure he's not returning, regardless of what happens with the draft.
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Can you please provide a link or other information supporting your opinion? Thanks!
Sure, but you first. Thanks!
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I honestly have no idea what's going to happen so I just assume it's a coin flip. Although I am a bit curious why he hasn't put his name in the portal if he was sure he's not returning, regardless of what happens with the draft.
I'm starting to suspect he doesn't think he'll have any problem transferring whenever it is he decides to.
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Do you really think we will bring in guys impactful enough to replace both Dawson and Carton?
Yeh, it’s going to be tonight to find player better than the ones that lead us to an 8th place conference finish (in weak big East)
Laughably terrible take, but that's to be expected I guess
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I'm starting to suspect he doesn't think he'll have any problem transferring whenever it is he decides to.
Right. Step 1: Focus on the Draft. Step 2: Profit! Or figure out the next college year.
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Laughably terrible take, but that's to be expected I guess
If we use that logic, that means bringing Tyler Kolek in is a mark against the new regime
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Do you really think we will bring in guys impactful enough to replace both Dawson and Carton?
Yeh, it’s going to be tonight to find player better than the ones that lead us to an 8th place conference finish (in weak big East)
Actually, ninth. I had been thinking we were 10th, but the uneven schedule got us to 9th.
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Actually, ninth. I had been thinking we were 10th, but the uneven schedule got us to 9th.
Ha—I was thinking 8th? Maybe we were better than I remember!
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Well, We R, we were both wrong, or had forgotten. But it was a forgettable season.
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Darryl Morsell is ranked 6th in cbssports.com ranking college basketball uncommitted transfers.
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Garcia isn’t leaving. Not sure why this board is so pessimistic about him.
Why are you certain that Dawson Garcia will be back at Marquette next season?
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Everyone, next year is irrelevant, aside from Shaka building the culture he wants.
Results will come. Be patient.
By year three we should know what this group has. And I expect this group will have a lot.
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Everyone, next year is irrelevant, aside from Shaka building the culture he wants.
Results will come. Be patient.
By year three we should know what this group has. And I expect this group will have a lot.
Next year is most certainly relevant.
It may not be a banner year...but it will be relevant.
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Well, We R, we were both wrong, or had forgotten. But it was a forgettable season.
Indeed!
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They are selling tickets to the games? I think it’s relevant.
Everyone, next year is irrelevant, aside from Shaka building the culture he wants.
Results will come. Be patient.
By year three we should know what this group has. And I expect this group will have a lot.
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Sure, but you first. Thanks!
I haven’t made a definitive statement either way, because I admit don’t know.
You say you do know, which is great. Please provide something to back up your statement. Thanks!
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I haven’t made a definitive statement either way, because I admit don’t know.
You say you do know, which is great. Please provide something to back up your statement. Thanks!
Sometimes I try to wrap my head around what it would be like to be the kind of person who trolls a low-volume college basketball message board. Any details you could share?
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Everyone, next year is irrelevant, aside from Shaka building the culture he wants.
Results will come. Be patient.
By year three we should know what this group has. And I expect this group will have a lot.
Ohh joy. We have to wait three years again? I’m sick of waiting.
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Sometimes I try to wrap my head around what it would be like to be the kind of person who trolls a low-volume college basketball message board. Any details you could share?
Looks like you arrived at a conclusion about that while shaving yesterday.
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Texas AandM for Jordan Hall
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Sometimes I try to wrap my head around what it would be like to be the kind of person who trolls a low-volume college basketball message board. Any details you could share?
In one of your first Scoop posts in a decade, you say you are certain that "Garcia isn't leaving." You are asked how you know. You refuse to say, and you respond by accusing others of trolling.
Thanks for sharing not just details but a blueprint on how to be an interwebs troll.
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In one of your first Scoop posts in a decade, you say you are certain that "Garcia isn't leaving." You are asked how you know. You refuse to say, and you respond by accusing others of trolling.
Thanks for sharing not just details but a blueprint on how to be an interwebs troll.
Good one! No more posting from you please. Thanks!
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In one of your first Scoop posts in a decade, you say you are certain that "Garcia isn't leaving." You are asked how you know. You refuse to say, and you respond by accusing others of trolling.
Thanks for sharing not just details but a blueprint on how to be an interwebs troll.
Good one! No more posting from you please. Thanks!
Why are you advocating the silencing of a fellow poster?
Isn't it better to debate someone rather than to silence someone?
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Nope, cause he doesn't have anything to back up what he says. Doesn't have dick-all to say. So let's respond tough like a tough guy to defend his baseless original post. Just dumb.
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There are opposing views as to whether Dawson Garcia is definitely turning pro now, or whether he is returning to MU for at least one more year. Another question is would at least another year at MU better serve Dawson's overall career? Put another way, would a year operating under Shaka better highlight his capabilities to the extent that he is seen as a legitimate prospect to stick around the NBA a few years rather than just another good player who will make money somewhere in the world.
Perhaps posters who have seen Dawson play through high school and AAU can better project, but just going on DG's play under WOJO in a very limited season it would seem he could put forward better play before deeming himself ready to audition for the NBA. Like most freshmen DG seemed overwhelmed and not even ready for the Big East in the beginning, but he was definitely improving as the season went on. WOJO's idea as to how to use him may have been attractive to DG, but perhaps it simply played into the prevalent mindset that just because a player is 6' 11" does not mean he has to be a back to the basket low post player in college. A taller player who shows he can also shoot from outside probably has a better chance at the pros, but defense, rebounding and overall footspeed would seem to figure in to whether a 6' 11" player will a chance to have more than a cup of coffee in the NBA.
Selfishly it would probably serve MU better to have DG next year. But is Dawson fast enough, or rebound and defend well enough to thrive in a quicker style of play that Shaka would seem to favor? Not to doubt Dawson's talents, but would his talents lend themselves to a constantly hustling style rather than the walk it up and exhaust the shot clock style we saw him in? Even on defense the entire MU team seemed to be jogging back even if the opposition was racing up the court. There were times when MU players had their backs turned as an opposing player streaked to the basket.
Would another MU year showcase DG's talents, or would it only confirm that while he would be a very good multi-year NCAA player, his professional ceiling is somewhat limited?
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Nope, cause he doesn't have anything to back up what he says. Doesn't have dick-all to say. So let's respond tough like a tough guy to defend his baseless original post. Just dumb.
Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven’t you asked them for a source? His departure has become an assumption based on nothing but hiveminding scoopers.
I heard that Garcia is expected to return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I’d tell you I was Shaka’s brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?
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Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven’t you asked them for a source?
But since everyone asked so nicely — I heard about the expectation of Garcia’s return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I’d tell you I was Shaka’s brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?
Well I think that because Dawson is currently in the draft and hadn't posted anything related to Shaka's hire (not that that matters after DJ left despite all positive posting) is why people say he's gone.
If you have a close source to the program that's awesome, I think people just don't want to be broken hearted. DJ burned us, and nobody wants to get their hopes up again. But yes if you post a fishing photo of you two (ideally with a text from Dawson!) i think we'd all appreciate that.
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Well I think that because Dawson is currently in the portal and hadn't posted anything related to Shaka's hire (not that that matters after DJ left despite all positive posting) is why people say he's gone.
I don't think Dawson is in the portal.
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Well I think that because Dawson is currently in the portal and hadn't posted anything related to Shaka's hire (not that that matters after DJ left despite all positive posting) is why people say he's gone.
If you have a close source to the program that's awesome, I think people just don't want to be broken hearted. DJ burned us, and nobody wants to get their hopes up again. But yes if you post a fishing photo of you two (ideally with a text from Dawson!) i think we'd all appreciate that.
Garcia hasn’t entered the portal, he’s declared for the NBA draft without hiring an agent. He could still enter the portal at any time, but that he hasn’t is good news for MU.
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I don't think Dawson is in the portal.
Sorry I meant draft. Damn decaf coffee has me all over the place
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Garcia hasn’t entered the portal, he’s declared for the NBA draft without hiring an agent. He could still enter the portal at any time, but that he hasn’t is good news for MU.
Sorry I meant draft. Damn decaf coffee has me all over the place
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Sorry I meant draft. Damn decaf coffee has me all over the place
What's the point?
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But is Dawson fast enough, or rebound and defend well enough to thrive in a quicker style of play that Shaka would seem to favor? Not to doubt Dawson's talents, but would his talents lend themselves to a constantly hustling style rather than the walk it up and exhaust the shot clock style we saw him in?
These are great questions. Shaka clearly thought so when he initially offered Garcia out of high school, but I do question if he has the lateral quickness to be anything other than a shot blocker. I don't think he has the fast twitch and court running you see in someone like Kur Kuath. While I'm not sure he's NBA ready, I'm also not sure this system would be best suited, at least initially, to showcase him for the next level.
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What's the point?
As I wash down my lunch of a faux meat burger and carrot fries with a non alcoholic beer I ask myself that same question.
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These are great questions. Shaka clearly thought so when he initially offered Garcia out of high school, but I do question if he has the lateral quickness to be anything other than a shot blocker. I don't think he has the fast twitch and court running you see in someone like Kur Kuath. While I'm not sure he's NBA ready, I'm also not sure this system would be best suited, at least initially, to showcase him for the next level.
I think the positive for Dawson would be he'd have to play the 5 and be a rim protector on defense for Shaka. And if he can show improvement there, that would be huge for his nba future as he'd likely be forced into a lot of 5 minutes at the next level due to being 6'11 and not being anywhere close to quick enough to guard nba wings.
Now whether he views himself as a wing instead of a 5 is a different story I guess.
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Well I think that because Dawson is currently in the draft and hadn't posted anything related to Shaka's hire (not that that matters after DJ left despite all positive posting) is why people say he's gone.
If you have a close source to the program that's awesome, I think people just don't want to be broken hearted. DJ burned us, and nobody wants to get their hopes up again. But yes if you post a fishing photo of you two (ideally with a text from Dawson!) i think we'd all appreciate that.
A better picture would include those two fishing with Dawson cracking brewskies from the boat's amply stocked cooler
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1389959122943045639
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Milwaukee transfer Te'Jon Lucas (
@too_smoove23
) has heard from the following schools, i'm told: BYU, Arkansas, Georgia, DePaul, St John's, Marquette, Pacific, College of Charleston, +.
Averaged 14.9 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 5.8 RPG this season.
Tweet has a typo in it, he averaged 5.8 apg, not rpg. I could dig it. Was top 25 in assist rate last season despite terrible weapons around him. Did that while keeping the turnovers at a reasonable level. Don't see him being a big scoring threat at the BEast level but his distribution and defense would be welcome.
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1389959122943045639
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Milwaukee transfer Te'Jon Lucas (
@too_smoove23
) has heard from the following schools, i'm told: BYU, Arkansas, Georgia, DePaul, St John's, Marquette, Pacific, College of Charleston, +.
Averaged 14.9 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 5.8 RPG this season.
Tweet has a typo in it, he averaged 5.8 apg, not rpg. I could dig it. Was top 25 in assist rate last season despite terrible weapons around him. Did that while keeping the turnovers at a reasonable level. Don't see him being a big scoring threat at the BEast level but his distribution and defense would be welcome.
Agree. His outside shooting is not very good. But, he would be a nice pickup for the one year. An, would be nice to have a local guy.
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1389959122943045639
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Milwaukee transfer Te'Jon Lucas (
@too_smoove23
) has heard from the following schools, i'm told: BYU, Arkansas, Georgia, DePaul, St John's, Marquette, Pacific, College of Charleston, +.
Averaged 14.9 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 5.8 RPG this season.
Tweet has a typo in it, he averaged 5.8 apg, not rpg. I could dig it. Was top 25 in assist rate last season despite terrible weapons around him. Did that while keeping the turnovers at a reasonable level. Don't see him being a big scoring threat at the BEast level but his distribution and defense would be welcome.
Nah were way too far from his friends and family and current teammates...
Seriously though would be a decent get, played two years at Illinois with decent enough role player numbers.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1389235443808546821?s=20
Schools that have reached out to
@Cuse_MBB
transfer Quincy Guerrier, who averaged 13.7 ppg and 8.4 rpg as a sophomore:
Alabama
Creighton
Marquette
Western Kentucky
Arizona State
Texas Tech
UGA
Florida and Illinois have reached out. He is in the NBA Draft without an agent.
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https://watchstadium.com/stadiums-2021-nba-draft-entry-tracker-05-03-2021/
Not sure if this has been posted yet but from Goodman Yesterday.
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1389959122943045639
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Milwaukee transfer Te'Jon Lucas (
@too_smoove23
) has heard from the following schools, i'm told: BYU, Arkansas, Georgia, DePaul, St John's, Marquette, Pacific, College of Charleston, +.
Averaged 14.9 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 5.8 RPG this season.
Tweet has a typo in it, he averaged 5.8 apg, not rpg. I could dig it. Was top 25 in assist rate last season despite terrible weapons around him. Did that while keeping the turnovers at a reasonable level. Don't see him being a big scoring threat at the BEast level but his distribution and defense would be welcome.
Hard pass
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Do we get to bring Patrick Baldwin, Jr. along if we take on Te'Jon and Patrick's dad? I'd take the trade.
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Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven’t you asked them for a source? His departure has become an assumption based on nothing but hiveminding scoopers.
I heard that Garcia is expected to return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I’d tell you I was Shaka’s brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?
Aside from the fact that I wasn't one of the Scoopers who "spouted off with certainty that Garcia is gone," and the fact that you were the one who trolled, I can see why you went on a rant. But you be you.
As for Garcia, I hope your friend is right. I think that under Shaka and with more good players around him, Dawson could improve significantly.
Have a lovely day.
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https://watchstadium.com/stadiums-2021-nba-draft-entry-tracker-05-03-2021/
Not sure if this has been posted yet but from Goodman Yesterday.
That is a lot of kids hoping to get drafted. Going to be some disappointment come draft night.
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Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven’t you asked them for a source? His departure has become an assumption based on nothing but hiveminding scoopers.
I heard that Garcia is expected to return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I’d tell you I was Shaka’s brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?
I also heard Dawson is coming back.
But also maybe not.
We’ll see.
No need for a troll like 2werds to call other people who actually post here trolls.
#playingbothsides.
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TwoWords?
@sshole is only one word...
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That is a lot of kids hoping to get drafted. Going to be some disappointment come draft night.
Oooff. That's a long list - if DJ left because he want to collect a paycheck overseas more power to him.
If he's going because he thinks the G-league is going to raise his stock more than another year - IDK. A few guys make it out of the G-league (of course some MU examples), but I think it's real easy to get lost in there. Anyway, good luck to him - I'll be pulling for his name to be called on draft night.
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Oooff. That's a long list - if DJ left because he want to collect a paycheck overseas more power to him.
If he's going because he thinks the G-league is going to raise his stock more than another year - IDK. A few guys make it out of the G-league (of course some MU examples), but I think it's real easy to get lost in there. Anyway, good luck to him - I'll be pulling for his name to be called on draft night.
Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.
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Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.
A lot of guys get drafted and sent down. 2nd rounders are always flyers.
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Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.
https://gleague.nba.com/news/alumni-in-nba-2020-21/ (https://gleague.nba.com/news/alumni-in-nba-2020-21/)
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Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.
While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?
I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.
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While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?
I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.
For example, look at this from the G-League FAQ:
https://gleague.nba.com/faq/#:~:text=Who%20are%20some%20of%20the,and%20Rockets%20center%20Clint%20Capela.
"10. Who are some of the best NBA players who have played in the NBA G League?
Top players who have been assigned to the NBA G League include Bucks guard Eric Bledsoe, Jazz center Rudy Gobert, Pistons guard Reggie Jackson and Rockets center Clint Capela."
Bledsoe played 2 G-League games, Gobert played 8, and Jackson 4. Capela played 38. So while accurate, it's a little misleading.
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Yesterday Georgia Basketball Justin Kier (@Jkiiiiii__) Announces on his Instagram he is entering the Transfer Portal for his Final Year of Eligibility. And Georgia did lose 5 players to the Transfer Portal Total.
But Georgia did just land Oquendo.
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For example, look at this from the G-League FAQ:
https://gleague.nba.com/faq/#:~:text=Who%20are%20some%20of%20the,and%20Rockets%20center%20Clint%20Capela.
"10. Who are some of the best NBA players who have played in the NBA G League?
Top players who have been assigned to the NBA G League include Bucks guard Eric Bledsoe, Jazz center Rudy Gobert, Pistons guard Reggie Jackson and Rockets center Clint Capela."
Bledsoe played 2 G-League games, Gobert played 8, and Jackson 4. Capela played 38. So while accurate, it's a little misleading.
Many of the players, like those you mentioned, are guys that the team knows are going to be on their roster before long. They want the players to get minutes and experience that they can't get if they were on the NBA roster.
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While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?
I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.
Like 2 players on nearly every are currently on two way G league contracts. Thats 13 of the 50%. I don't think this is particularly impressive.
Plus for the G league guys who flame out in 1-2 years, never making it to the league, would be better off being a role play for Fenerbache and making 500k per year.
G league average is still 45k.
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Many of the players, like those you mentioned, are guys that the team knows are going to be on their roster before long. They want the players to get minutes and experience that they can't get if they were on the NBA roster.
Sure, but it still speaks to the G League’s ascension into a true developmental league. A lot of people here talk about it like it’s still the D League filled with a rag tag group of journeymen and scrubs. Playing daily with and against NBA draft picks and guys sent down for experience is valuable and gets real eyes on you. The point is, even if a good chunk of those 50% are 2nd round picks or roster guys sent down, it’s no longer just a random guy or two a season coming up. It’s like true AAA ball whereas the old D League was like playing for the Milwaukee Milkmen
Plus for the G league guys who flame out in 1-2 years, never making it to the league, would be better off being a role play for Fenerbache and making 500k per year.
G league average is still 45k.
First off, the G League flameouts aren’t choosing the G League over the top Euroleague teams. Look at Vander or Rowsey. Their choices weren’t G League or Real Madrid or CSKA Moscow.
Second, you can undoubtedly make very good money in Europe, more than the G League for sure, but no role player is making $500K. Stars on those teams are making $1.5-2MM. A bench level role player, like a G League guy would be is gonna be like half that at best. I think Greg Monroe got $1MM a year when he went to Europe after leaving the NBA.
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no role player is making $500K.
Stars on those teams are making $1.5-2MM.
A bench level role player, like a G League guy would be is gonna be like half that at best.
So a bench level role player's making > than $500k? Because half 1.5-2m is 750k-1m...
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So a bench level role player's making > than $500k? Because half 1.5-2m is 750k-1m...
Sorry, I meant half of his $500K estimate
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Sorry, I meant half of his $500K estimate
Oh got it. To be fair even half the 500k is still more than any lawyer, doctor, or engineer made I know of made after school for quite some time. I'd gladly be an average player on a team for that money
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Oh got it. To be fair even half the 500k is still more than any lawyer, doctor, or engineer made I know of made after school for quite some time. I'd gladly be an average player on a team for that money
If that is for a 10 day contract, even better! I have no idea how these things work.
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Sure, but it still speaks to the G League’s ascension into a true developmental league. A lot of people here talk about it like it’s still the D League filled with a rag tag group of journeymen and scrubs. Playing daily with and against NBA draft picks and guys sent down for experience is valuable and gets real eyes on you. The point is, even if a good chunk of those 50% are 2nd round picks or roster guys sent down, it’s no longer just a random guy or two a season coming up. It’s like true AAA ball whereas the old D League was like playing for the Milwaukee Milkmen
I wasn’t trying to be argumentative as I agree with all you say here. I was simply referencing a small subset of players from another post.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1391217491704258560
Jake
@jakeweingarten
Since entering the transfer portal, UGA transfer Justin Kier tells
@Stockrisers
he’s heard from Cincinnati, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Marquette, Penn State, BYU, Nevada, Coastal Carolina, JMU, FGCU, and others.
Averaged 9.5 points and 3.7 rebounds per game this past season.
9:24 PM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Wouldn't be a bad pickup but not one I'd be over the moon about either. Decent 3P shooter and like all of Shaka's reach outs, has a high steal %. Definitely seems like Shaka is going to value forcing turnovers.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1391217491704258560
Jake
@jakeweingarten
Since entering the transfer portal, UGA transfer Justin Kier tells
@Stockrisers
he’s heard from Cincinnati, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Marquette, Penn State, BYU, Nevada, Coastal Carolina, JMU, FGCU, and others.
Averaged 9.5 points and 3.7 rebounds per game this past season.
9:24 PM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Wouldn't be a bad pickup but not one I'd be over the moon about either. Decent 3P shooter and like all of Shaka's reach outs, has a high steal %. Definitely seems like Shaka is going to value forcing turnovers.
Justin Kier played at George Mason in 2020 the year previous to Tyler Kolek.
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Dex Akanno is announcing his decision today.
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Dex Akanno is announcing his decision today.
What are his choices?
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https://watchstadium.com/stadiums-2021-nba-draft-entry-tracker-05-03-2021/
Not sure if this has been posted yet but from Goodman Yesterday.
Lots of very good players trying to test waters .
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What are his choices?
Is he going to Loyola Marymount?
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1391584482054983681
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Louisiana transfer Mylik Wilson (
@mylikw13
) tells me that he will be announcing his college destination very soon. Georgia, Vanderbilt, Wichita St, Marquette, Creighton, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, + who reached out.
Averaged 12.9 PPG and 5.5 RPG at this year.
9:42 PM · May 9, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Anytime a Marquette player starts to show a little interest in leaving to go pro, before we all start dismissing such talk because “he’s not ready” ... all folks have to do is take a look at the list of players who have committed to leave their schools.
For many, being “ready” has nothing to do with it.
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Anytime a Marquette player starts to show a little interest in leaving to go pro, before we all start dismissing such talk because “he’s not ready” ... all folks have to do is take a look at the list of players who have committed to leave their schools.
For many, being “ready” has nothing to do with it.
Quite true.
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1391584482054983681
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Louisiana transfer Mylik Wilson (
@mylikw13
) tells me that he will be announcing his college destination very soon. Georgia, Vanderbilt, Wichita St, Marquette, Creighton, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, + who reached out.
Averaged 12.9 PPG and 5.5 RPG at this year.
9:42 PM · May 9, 2021·Twitter Web App
Not sure I can read Twitter but it looks like he committed to Texas Tech 35 minutes ago unfortunately if that is his Twitter again am not sure.
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Tweet
MW@mylikw13
https://twitter.com/mylikw13/status/1391814937429909506?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1391589388144943105?s=21
Dexter Akanno to announce soon
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1391584482054983681
jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Louisiana transfer Mylik Wilson (
@mylikw13
) tells me that he will be announcing his college destination very soon. Georgia, Vanderbilt, Wichita St, Marquette, Creighton, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, + who reached out.
Averaged 12.9 PPG and 5.5 RPG at this year.
9:42 PM · May 9, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1391804975139803139?s=21
Thank You Correct Texas Tech
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Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
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19m
.@Cuse_MBB
transfer @quincyguerrier
has a Zoom now with @MarquetteMBB
after having one Sunday with @IlliniMBB
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Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
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19m
.@Cuse_MBB
transfer @quincyguerrier
has a Zoom now with @MarquetteMBB
after having one Sunday with @IlliniMBB
Very positive development. Would be a huge get
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Very positive development. Would be a huge get
He and OMP were AAU teammates.
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He and OMP were AAU teammates.
Guru glad your posting again .
OMP and Quincy would be a powerful front court combo.
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Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
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19m
.@Cuse_MBB
transfer @quincyguerrier
has a Zoom now with @MarquetteMBB
after having one Sunday with @IlliniMBB
Bam??
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You down with OMP?
He and OMP were AAU teammates.
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Did Dexter announce where he is going?
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Did Dexter announce where he is going?
So much for an announcement yesterday.
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Did Dexter announce where he is going?
Hope Dex goes to a low major . Someplace
He could be a big fish in a smaller pond.
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Dex should go right to the NBA, given the way he schooled pros last summer!
jk ... I hope Dex finds his basketball happiness wherever he chooses.
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So much for an announcement yesterday.
That tweet was posted at kind of a weird time. I thought it possible the tomorrow could refer to Tuesday (today).
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That tweet was posted at kind of a weird time. I thought it possible the tomorrow could refer to Tuesday (today).
Eh, the tweet was made on Sunday night at 10pm, saying he would be making his announcement (then) tomorrow.
I guess we shouldn't be trusting high schoolers for recruiting news.
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Eh, the tweet was made on Sunday night at 10pm, saying he would be making his announcement (then) tomorrow.
I guess we shouldn't be trusting high schoolers for recruiting news.
Gotcha. For some reason I thought it was past midnight.
Hopefully he finds a good spot for himself.
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Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)
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Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)
Now thatd be a get that'd make us forget about Carton real real quick.
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Now thatd be a get that'd make us forget about Carton real real quick.
There are chuckers and then there’s Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there’s no D in his name or game either.
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Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)
VSOP baby!
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There are chuckers and then there’s Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there’s no D in his name or game either.
Darn.
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Darn.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s an exciting player. But more fun to watch as a neutral. He’d be maddening to watch for an entire season.
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I'd take Remy Martin over Courvoisier (McCauley).
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Now thatd be a get that'd make us forget about Carton real real quick.
Martin shows up and plays hard every play. Would be a very good get.
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I would absolutely take Martin. Very good player. High scoring PG with a TO rate south of 14%.
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There are chuckers and then there’s Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there’s no D in his name or game either.
Yeah agreed. I doubt there's mutual interest from either side, but I would take a pass. He wouldn't tip the scales here early, but would be the exact opposite of the style I'm hoping Shaka is trying to build and would only serve to take time away from the long-term development of the young guards that will hopefully become program staples.
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Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)
Sticking with my predilection for players with great names (it's my number one recruiting criteria), I say sign him immediately.
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I would absolutely take Martin. Very good player. High scoring PG with a TO rate south of 14%.
There are some players where you look at their stats and they look like all world players. But then you watch them play live and you’re like, “no wonder this team is trash.” I call it the Ricky Davis syndrome. Exciting player, good to have on your fantasy team, but not a guy to elevate a team over the course of the season. Remy Martin is that guy.
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Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)
Hope Marquette lands Remy Martin or Darryl Morsell
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There are some players where you look at their stats and they look like all world players. But then you watch them play live and you’re like, “no wonder this team is trash.” I call it the Ricky Davis syndrome. Exciting player, good to have on your fantasy team, but not a guy to elevate a team over the course of the season. Remy Martin is that guy.
I'll take your word for it. I didn't watch a second of Arizona State basketball last season. I caught a few games the proceeding years and thought Remy was a good player with poor teammates. My guess is Remy ends up transferring to a contender and that team is happy to have his services.
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I'll take your word for it. I didn't watch a second of Arizona State basketball last season. I caught a few games the proceeding years and thought Remy was a good player with poor teammates. My guess is Remy ends up transferring to a contender and that team is happy to have his services.
He could be a good fit given the right situation - Mcclung at Texas Tech comes to mind.
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I'd take Remy at Marquette in a heartbeat. Especially because we're going to be a team with a lot of length and athleticism defensively, so we can hide him on their worst perimeter player, and because we're going to be a team that struggles to score, and he can score very well.
My guess is he'll have plenty of interest from programs as good and better than Marquette.
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I'd take Remy at Marquette in a heartbeat. Especially because we're going to be a team with a lot of length and athleticism defensively, so we can hide him on their worst perimeter player, and because we're going to be a team that struggles to score, and he can score very well.
My guess is he'll have plenty of interest from programs as good and better than Marquette.
Got to agree. He's a proven, high volume scoring PG. Gee I wonder what we're missing on this years team?
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Got to agree. He's a proven, high volume scoring PG. Gee I wonder what we're missing on this years team?
Yeah, there's no way I'd pass him up if he wanted to play for Marquette. He's a lot like Markus (although a much less accurate 3 pt shooter and with fewer TOs). He'll have a lot of suitors.
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Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.
Exciting player but it’s not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand…….
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Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.
Exciting player but it’s not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand…….
How would Morsell be any different? He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.
Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did. Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had. Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.
Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer. Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.
Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero. Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.
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Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.
Exciting player but it’s not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand…….
100% agreed
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How would Morsell be any different? He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.
Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did. Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had. Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.
Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer. Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.
Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero. Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.
Morsell is a well rounded, big, strong team oriented guard who can influence the game on multiple levels.
Martin is a small guard who is indifferent to all aspects of the game except getting as many shots up as possible.
He would be a bad fit for a one year guy with a young team whereas Morsell is the opposite.
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How would Morsell be any different? He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.
Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did. Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had. Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.
Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer. Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.
Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero. Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.
Morsell is a 6'5" defensive stud who would probably come in to play a pass-first PG or point forward type role, whereas Martin is a 6' chucker that doesn't play D... do you see a difference now?
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Morsell is a 6'5" defensive stud who would probably come in to play a pass-first PG or point forward type role, whereas Martin is a 6' chucker that doesn't play D... do you see a difference now?
Yes. And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here.. At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.
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Yes. And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here.. At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.
You didn't ask if Morsell could score as well as Martin, you asked how the two would be any different.
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Yes. And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here.. At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.
You watch him play much last season or did you just take a quick peak at his kenpom page when you saw he was transferring?
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You watch him play much last season or did you just take a quick peak at his kenpom page when you saw he was transferring?
I have watched him play many times over the last 4 seasons. I’d take him in a heartbeat. His strengths are what this roster is missing and his weaknesses are what this roster could hide. Plus defensively he gets steals which is what Shaka values and he doesn’t turn the ball over that much.
There’s a reason he’ll be an incredibly sought after player. Maybe you know better than a majority of high major coaches though.
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LOL at this thread.
I have watched Martin many times. And would be thrilled to have him here next year. He would be a huge 1 year asset.
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LOL at this thread.
I have watched Martin many times. And would be thrilled to have him here next year. He would be a huge 1 year asset.
As have I. He's a Wojo-style guard. I'd like the program to move past that style, otherwise, what was the point?
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I wonder how many people here lusting after Martin complained about Markus being selfish or a chucked. Martin shot 33% a game from 3 the last 2 season and still put up 6 of them a game. If Markus ever annoyed you, Martin would make you lose your mind.
Nobody is saying Martin isn’t a good scorer, cause he is, but he is “one of the best Sun Devils ever” according to articles about him leaving, but ASU did nothing with him there, and he was far less accomplished than Markus.
Mac McClung at TTU is probably a pretty good comp
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I wonder how many people here lusting after Martin complained about Markus being selfish or a chucked. Martin shot 33% a game from 3 the last 2 season and still put up 6 of them a game. If Markus ever annoyed you, Martin would make you lose your mind.
Nobody is saying Martin isn’t a good scorer, cause he is, but he is “one of the best Sun Devils ever” according to articles about him leaving, but ASU did nothing with him there, and he was far less accomplished than Markus.
Mac McClung at TTU is probably a pretty good comp
I would’ve loved Markus on MU last year. Would love him on MU next year.
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I would’ve loved Markus on MU last year. Would love him on MU next year.
Yeah, not for me. That sort of usage isn't healthy for a team, seldom results in a winning team, and for me at least isn't fun to watch. Markus as an individual shooter was something amazing, Markus as an incredibly high usage guy not so much IMO.
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Martin shows up and plays hard every play. Would be a very good get.
Bill Walton, shill for the Conference of Champions, loves RM. Shoot to get hot, shoot to stay hot.
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I have watched him play many times over the last 4 seasons. I’d take him in a heartbeat. His strengths are what this roster is missing and his weaknesses are what this roster could hide. Plus defensively he gets steals which is what Shaka values and he doesn’t turn the ball over that much.
There’s a reason he’ll be an incredibly sought after player. Maybe you know better than a majority of high major coaches though.
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I have watched him play many times over the last 4 seasons. I’d take him in a heartbeat. His strengths are what this roster is missing and his weaknesses are what this roster could hide. Plus defensively he gets steals which is what Shaka values and he doesn’t turn the ball over that much.
There’s a reason he’ll be an incredibly sought after player. Maybe you know better than a majority of high major coaches though.
I know he won’t be a lead player on a high quality HM team. Four years of evidence supports my opinion.
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Yeah, not for me. That sort of usage isn't healthy for a team, seldom results in a winning team, and for me at least isn't fun to watch. Markus as an individual shooter was something amazing, Markus as an incredibly high usage guy not so much IMO.
Yeah Markus really wasn’t the problem. He was a two time All American for a reason. He shot as much as he did because he needed to for MU to have any chance to win basketball games. We saw the quality of players we had around him last year when the 3 best players left were not on the roster when Markus was and the team stunk. He single handedly carried us to what would have been an NCAA berth. Even his junior year Sam proved to be a very good high major player, but beyond that the third best player on the team was a guy who, after two more years of being coached up by a Hall of Fame coach, rode the bench for a team that lost in the play in game. Having Ed Morrow and Theo John shoot the ball more and Markus Howard shoot the ball less would have made Marquette much, much worse.
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I would say our two biggest gaps right now are experience and scoring. Also, Shaka’s offenses have been up and down.
At this point of the year, you aren’t getting an ideal fit. Kind of like Carlino in Wojo’s first year.
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I would say our two biggest gaps right now are experience and scoring. Also, Shaka’s offenses have been up and down.
At this point of the year, you aren’t getting an ideal fit. Kind of like Carlino in Wojo’s first year.
Exactly. Pass on a Carlino-type
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Exactly. Pass on a Carlino-type
That’s fair. I don’t necessarily think bringing in Carlino set us back any or the development of anyone. But, that’s just a matter of opinion.
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Why would we pass on a "Carlino type?" The current roster lacks for some outside shooting. Someone to stretch the floor would be quite valuable.
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Exactly. Pass on a Carlino-type
Sigh. The myth that Carlino was a chucker is a poor one. His usage was 24.2% well within normal for the best player on a team. In fact, he didn't even have the highest usage for the team, Duane Wilson did, he was more of a "chucker" at 24.5% usage. Jajuan Johnson wasn't far behind Carlino at 23.4%.
Not only was Carlino's usage normal, his efficiency was extremely good. He shot 42% from 3 (top 120 in the country) and had an eFG% of 53.3% (top 350 in the country). So he wasn't taking that many shots and he was converting them at a high clip, opposite of a chucker.
There seems to be a misconception in this thread that if player takes a lot of shots, he is selfish, doesn't play well with teams, and somehow makes the team worse. There are situations where that happens, but I believe more commonly the "blame" rests with the coach for not surrounding the player with better teammates and for choosing to run everything through a specific player.
If Shaka wants him, I'd love to have Remy Martin or a "Carlino-type" (they are actually very different players). I think if you put Martin on a team with better teammates, you would see his usage go down and his already high assist rate go up. Just because you were used one way at one school doesn't mean you will be used in the same way at the next school.
All that being said, I'm not certain we have a good enough roster to have Martin and not run everything through him.
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UCF transfer Brandon Mahan tells me that he's receiving interest from the following programs:
Kansas
Georgia
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Marquette
Arizona State
Memphis
This guy is a baller. Some stiff competition for sure
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Quincy Guerrier has cut his list to Illinois, Arizona State, Memphis, and Oregon. Oh well.
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Quincy Gurrier looks like hes going to Oregon. MU is focusing on a guard for the last spot expected to open.
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Sigh. The myth that Carlino was a chucker is a poor one. His usage was 24.2% well within normal for the best player on a team. In fact, he didn't even have the highest usage for the team, Duane Wilson did, he was more of a "chucker" at 24.5% usage. Jajuan Johnson wasn't far behind Carlino at 23.4%.
Not only was Carlino's usage normal, his efficiency was extremely good. He shot 42% from 3 (top 120 in the country) and had an eFG% of 53.3% (top 350 in the country). So he wasn't taking that many shots and he was converting them at a high clip, opposite of a chucker.
There seems to be a misconception in this thread that if player takes a lot of shots, he is selfish, doesn't play well with teams, and somehow makes the team worse. There are situations where that happens, but I believe more commonly the "blame" rests with the coach for not surrounding the player with better teammates and for choosing to run everything through a specific player.
If Shaka wants him, I'd love to have Remy Martin or a "Carlino-type" (they are actually very different players). I think if you put Martin on a team with better teammates, you would see his usage go down and his already high assist rate go up. Just because you were used one way at one school doesn't mean you will be used in the same way at the next school.
All that being said, I'm not certain we have a good enough roster to have Martin and not run everything through him.
In furtherance of your analysis of Matt Carlino, he was voted second team All Big East. He was well liked by his MU teammates.
As for what happened to Carlino, he had a brief stint in G League . Had four nice years in Europe and for the past two years has been a graduate assistant at TCU
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UCF transfer Brandon Mahan tells me that he's receiving interest from the following programs:
Kansas
Georgia
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Marquette
Arizona State
Memphis
This guy is a baller. Some stiff competition for sure
Ugh, I hope we pass.
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Ugh, I hope we pass.
I know nothing about the prospect--but curious as to your concerns?
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Quincy Guerrier has cut his list to Illinois, Arizona State, Memphis, and Oregon. Oh well.
Green weenie, aina?
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I know nothing about the prospect--but curious as to your concerns?
Assuming he's being sarcastic after the people here stuck up their nose at Remy Martin, a similarly heralded available transfer.
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Quincy Guerrier has cut his list to Illinois, Arizona State, Memphis, and Oregon. Oh well.
dang. hope garcia is back
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UCF transfer Brandon Mahan tells me that he's receiving interest from the following programs:
Kansas
Georgia
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Marquette
Arizona State
Memphis
This guy is a baller. Some stiff competition for sure
Averaged 12.3 points, 5 Rebs, 1.9 AST. Shot 45% and Shot 43.8 % from 3 making 1.9 of 4.2 3’s a game
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dang. hope garcia is back
Hope Or Wish List.
1. Garcia is back
2. Land Darryl Morsell
3. Land Brandon Mahan or Remy Martin.
Subject to change. What is your hope or wish list
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Dexter Akanno to Oregon State
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Dexter Akanno to Oregon State
Good for him. Honestly, that’s a higher level than I was anticipating for him.
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One of the all-time names Meekness Payne, transferring to UC-Pueblo. Wonder if he will be inheriting a starting position at Pueblo.
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Jose Perez to enter the portal as well
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Jose Perez to enter the portal as well
Just saw that per Verbal Commits.
Very interesting, and could signal a new commit (Morsell?) soon.
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Just saw that per Verbal Commits.
Very interesting, and could signal a new commit (Morsell?) soon.
I don’t think it signals anything other than Perez was no longer a fit for the program and if it was in his best interest to find a place where he can get more playing time. They’re involved with so many other transfers, I think this was probably known for awhile
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Just saw that per Verbal Commits.
Very interesting, and could signal a new commit (Morsell?) soon.
Dawson's return from the draft.
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Dawson's return from the draft.
I would like this.
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Dawson's return from the draft.
We were still fine with Jose from a scholarship perspective if Dawson decided he was coming back.
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Good luck, Dexter. Sorry it did not work out at MU for you.
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One of the all-time names Meekness Payne, transferring to UC-Pueblo. Wonder if he will be inheriting a starting position at Pueblo.
Good one, Lawdog. But, he'll need to toughen up first.
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Te'Jon Lucas down to a top 5. No MU.
https://twitter.com/too_smoove23/status/1392166042219200514
4 western schools...and DePaul
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Te'Jon Lucas down to a top 5. No MU.
https://twitter.com/too_smoove23/status/1392166042219200514
4 western schools...and DePaul
I don't get why Lucas wouldn't finish things out at UWM.
Hometown kid. He would get decent exposure with Baldwin Jr. now in the fold.
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Perfect reason, to enjoy a new adventure on somebodies nickel, one reason kids transfer.
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Perfect reason, to enjoy a new adventure on somebodies nickel, one reason kids transfer.
But no one is really travelling and no, that's not really a reason students transfer.
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I don't get why Lucas wouldn't finish things out at UWM.
Hometown kid. He would get decent exposure with Baldwin Jr. now in the fold.
I heard he wrote a letter
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But no one is really travelling and no, that's not really a reason students transfer.
Are you serious, let see, at Oklahoma, transfer to MU and go all over the eastern part of the country, play at Madison Square Garden, fly charter, stay at nice hotels, I will do it next year!
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I don't get why Lucas wouldn't finish things out at UWM.
Hometown kid. He would get decent exposure with Baldwin Jr. now in the fold.
Because he wants to do something else?
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Are you serious, let see, at Oklahoma, transfer to MU and go all over the eastern part of the country, play at Madison Square Garden, fly charter, stay at nice hotels, I will do it next year!
I thought you meant traveling to schools when deciding where to transfer.
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Because he wants to do something else?
He still has the option to stay though.
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Jose Perez to enter the portal as well
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1392934887028625409?s=21
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Dexter Akanno to Oregon State
Good luck to Dexter. From this article seems like he is heading into a crowded backcourt at Oregon State.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2021/05/oregon-state-mens-basketball-roster-appears-set-for-21-22-as-marquette-transfer-dexter-akanno-commits-to-beavers.html
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ESPN ranks Remy Martin the top transfer in the country. I guess I’d be okay with him if he was interested in MU. Think he’ll have better options to win in his one year remaining, though.
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Last season’s transfers by the numbers per Jon Rothstein
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1393257123757314051?s=21
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Jamari Sibley (Nicolet / GTown) in portal
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Jamari Sibley (Nicolet / GTown) in portal
Maybe he's dying to play for UWM now that they're the biggest show in town!
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Maybe he's dying to play for UWM now that they're the biggest show in town!
He was AAU teammates with Baldwin, so it could very well happen.
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He was AAU teammates with Baldwin, so it could very well happen.
If I had to put money down, it would be Iowa State. They were on his list the first time and with TJO there, it seems pretty natural.
Unless he really wants to play close to home or with Baldwin, I’d think he’d need to sit out a year if he’d transfer a second time.
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If I had to put money down, it would be Iowa State. They were on his list the first time and with TJO there, it seems pretty natural.
Unless he really wants to play close to home or with Baldwin, I’d think he’d need to sit out a year if he’d transfer a second time.
Are you saying that if he went to UWM, he'd inevitably end up transferring again next year after Baldwin leaves for the NBA? I wouldn't be so sure about that - there seems to be an acceptance now that playing for a P5 school isn't the only route to getting noticed and playing professionally. And if he can team up with old buddy (who just so happens to be one of the best players in the country), and do so in his hometown, I could certainly see the allure. Despite what we like to think, seeing significant playing time at UWM would probably be a more enjoyable college bball experience than riding the pine at any P5 school.
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Are you saying that if he went to UWM, he'd inevitably end up transferring again next year after Baldwin leaves for the NBA? I wouldn't be so sure about that - there seems to be an acceptance now that playing for a P5 school isn't the only route to getting noticed and playing professionally. And if he can team up with old buddy (who just so happens to be one of the best players in the country), and do so in his hometown, I could certainly see the allure. Despite what we like to think, seeing significant playing time at UWM would probably be a more enjoyable college bball experience than riding the pine at any P5 school.
My thought would be he would get playing time at ISU and UWM won’t be that attractive after Baldwin Jr goes pro. Could be totally wrong, but just my opinion.
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Remy Martin is Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk
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Remy Martin is Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk
Not surprised he went to an inferior program. He's just not fit to win at the highest level
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Remy Martin is Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk
Good thing we didn’t want him.
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https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1394796999472553986?s=21
Made Justin Kier’s Final 6
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https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1394796999472553986?s=21
Made Justin Kier’s Final 6
Georgia transfer Justin Kier has cut his list down to 6 schools:
Utah
Arizona
James Madison
Marquette
Penn State
Oklahoma
Averaged 9.5 ppg, 3.7 rebounds, and 2.4 assists for the Bulldogs this past season.
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Georgia transfer Justin Kier has cut his list down to 6 schools:
Utah
Arizona
James Madison
Marquette
Penn State
Oklahoma
Averaged 9.5 ppg, 3.7 rebounds, and 2.4 assists for the Bulldogs this past season.
Look at all those coaches getting ready to start their first season at their new posts. Maybe it will come down to Shaka vs. Moser.
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Jalen Coleman Lands To Kansas
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Jalen Coleman Lands To Kansas
Seven years of college and his fourth school.
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Jalen Coleman Lands To Kansas
Wait, how is this guy eligible? He's already played games in 5 different seasons.
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Wait, how is this guy eligible? He's already played games in 5 different seasons.
Plus a sit-out transfer season, geez
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Wait, how is this guy eligible? He's already played games in 5 different seasons.
I thought that meant he was only eligible at Wisconsin.
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Or Otule.
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Seven years of college and his fourth school.
I guess he finally wants to get paid for playing basketball.
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I guess he finally wants to get paid for playing basketball.
Hell get more at Kansas than the GLeague
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Hell get more at Kansas than the GLeague
No teal necessary.
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He'll have the same run as Wojo.
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Wait, how is this guy eligible? He's already played games in 5 different seasons.
He had two injury waivers
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@Andrew__Slater
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31s
Marquette
St.John’s
College of Charleston
Georgia
Tulsa
& St. Joe’s
have already reached out
for PG Jordan Walker @jellyfam_j
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@Andrew__Slater
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31s
Marquette
St.John’s
College of Charleston
Georgia
Tulsa
& St. Joe’s
have already reached out
for PG Jordan Walker @jellyfam_j
He was atSeton Hall as a frosh. No go under BE rules.
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He was atSeton Hall as a frosh. No go under BE rules.
Restricting the pool of talent available to Big East schools is imbecilic and should be changed immediately.
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Restricting the pool of talent available to Big East schools is imbecilic and should be changed immediately.
This rule hurts our league
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He was atSeton Hall as a frosh. No go under BE rules.
I think that's only direct BE->BE transfers. Since he's coming from Tulane, and Marquette has reached out, I'd assume that's not an issue.
Nonetheless, I'd be surprised if Shaka takes him. But Shaka has surprised me.
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Must be. If it's "no go" why have MU and St Johns reached out? To offer moral support?
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I think that's only direct BE->BE transfers. Since he's coming from Tulane, and Marquette has reached out, I'd assume that's not an issue.
Nonetheless, I'd be surprised if Shaka takes him. But Shaka has surprised me.
It isn’t an issue in this case.
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Te'Jon Lucas down to a top 5. No MU.
https://twitter.com/too_smoove23/status/1392166042219200514
4 western schools...and DePaul
https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1395093126914748418?s=21 To BYU
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There was definitely a rule that would have forbidden this transfer a few years ago. We weren't allowed to recruit a transfer from New Mexico because he had started at Butler...even though Butler wasn't in the Big East when he signed his LOI. We were listed as reaching out even though we technically weren't allowed to sign him. Could be this is the same thing or could be the rule changed.
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Must be. If it's "no go" why have MU and St Johns reached out? To offer moral support?
Maybe they weren’t fully aware of his background. And “reaching out” could be an assistant sending him a tweet.
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Not sure if this was posted somewhere, but Greg Elliott confirmed he's staying.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPLwczChHOH/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Penciling him in as the starting shooting guard.
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Good news. Greg can shoot the ball and we'll need that. Great kid, too.
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Not sure if this was posted somewhere, but Greg Elliott confirmed he's staying.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPLwczChHOH/?utm_medium=copy_link
Happy GE has elected to stay with the program. He's capable of draining the 3-Ball.
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https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1395093126914748418?s=21 To BYU
East side of MKE to BYU will be an adjustment to say the least
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https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1396311390734925824?s=21
Tulane Transfer Guard Jordan Jelly Walker has heard from Marquette and many other schools.
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Jerome Hunter from Indiana to Xavier. Xavier is loaded next year.
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Jerome Hunter from Indiana to Xavier. Xavier is loaded next year.
And Chris Mack is flailing away firing assistants. Hate to see it.
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Luke Fizulich following Dwayne Killings to Albany.
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Jerome Hunter from Indiana to Xavier. Xavier is loaded next year.
Good. It will make it all the more satisfying to beat them!
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Luke Fizulich following Dwayne Killings to Albany.
Smart move for Luke. In state tuition now and maybe a chance for some minutes.
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Smart move for Luke. In state tuition now and maybe a chance for some minutes.
Looks to be a walk-on there. Would have to establish NY residency for a tuition break since he lives in NJ. Good landing spot for him.
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And Chris Mack is flailing away firing assistants. Hate to see it.
And one of those assistants (Gaudio) just got federally charged with extortion - apparently after he was fired, he threatened to release a bunch of evidence of recruiting violations if UL didn't pay him until his planned retirement date.
So, in short, not much has changed at UL since Pitino.
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Looks to be a walk-on there. Would have to establish NY residency for a tuition break since he lives in NJ. Good landing spot for him.
Yes, he is a walk-on at Albany. As per the Albany website.
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Looks to be a walk-on there. Would have to establish NY residency for a tuition break since he lives in NJ. Good landing spot for him.
I forgot he was from New Jersey , I just remember he went to Archbishop Stepinac in White Plains senior year. In any event a good move for Him and Coach Killings .
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Georgia transfer Justin Kier has cut his list down to 6 schools:
Utah
Arizona
James Madison
Marquette
Penn State
Oklahoma
Averaged 9.5 ppg, 3.7 rebounds, and 2.4 assists for the Bulldogs this past season.
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1396866799623446528?s=21
Justin Kier Looks To Announce On Thursday
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1397237998517895168?s=21
Justin Kier to announce today at 3
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Do we want this?
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Do we want this?
He's a senior/grad transfer who is a big guard that can fill a need. I'd be happy to have him suit up.
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He's a senior/grad transfer who is a big guard that can fill a need. I'd be happy to have him suit up.
Plus we all saw how Matthews played after being unleashed from Crean
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He's a senior/grad transfer who is a big guard that can fill a need. I'd be happy to have him suit up.
If I'm not mistaken, this will be his 6th season of college ball (4 seasons at George Mason, 1 at Georgia). That's some Otule-level experience.
For a young team, an experienced guard would be nice. I'd prefer Morsell, but he certainly wouldn't be a bad get.
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Geno weighs inhttps://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31515016/mess (https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31515016/mess)
I'd be curious at the end of the process, how many kids:
Transfer from P-6 to P-6
Transfer up to a P-6
Transfer from P-6 to a lower level
Transfer from lower, to lower
Are not back in college basketball because of no scholarship
Are not back in basketball because playing professionally
I am too lazy to put this together.
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Geno weighs inhttps://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31515016/mess (https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31515016/mess)
I'd be curious at the end of the process, how many kids:
Transfer from P-6 to P-6
Transfer up to a P-6
Transfer from P-6 to a lower level
Transfer from lower, to lower
Are not back in college basketball because of no scholarship
Are not back in basketball because playing professionally
I am too lazy to put this together.
I did this a couple of years back, when the number of transfers was a bit more manageable. As I recall, the large majority were either P6 to lower, or lower to lower. There were many fewer lower to P6 or P6 to P6.
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Kier to AZ
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Green weenie.
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Kier to AZ
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1397629600449040394?s=21
Arizona. Want or Hope for Morsell more anyway.
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Green weenie.
Yeah ... celebrating missed recruits and transfers is so 2014-20.
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Kofi to go pro.
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1397910660856565761?s=21
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Kofi to go pro.
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1397910660856565761?s=21
Probably hurt his stock staying another year. Can't see it going higher, so may as well go now.
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Kofi to go pro.
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1397910660856565761?s=21
Should earn a good living as a backup or in Europe.
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Has Ma chimed in on this all-star name, hey?
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Has Ma chimed in on this all-star name, hey?
Should be on the Illini cool names list
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Sounds like an STD symptom, aina?
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Sounds like an STD symptom, aina?
Can you imagine if He played for South Carolina. Radio play by play would be fun.
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Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
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Maryland guard Darryl Morsell is leaning towards returning to college next season, he told @stadium
. He’s considering coming back to College Park, and also has drawn interest from Marquette, Providence, Arkansas and Duke, among others.
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Jamari Sibley went to UTEP. I thought he might have been the first Big East to Big East transfer, but he steps down a level.
https://www.ktsm.com/sports/college-sports/utep/utep-mens-basketball-picks-up-georgetown-transfer-jamari-sibley/
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ESPN has Darryl ranked as the #42nd Ranked Transfer in the country today. Tyler is ranked as the #91st ranked Transfer in the country.
Theo John #99.
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https://twitter.com/hoopscoopmedia/status/1405627388411760640?s=21
Butler freshman forward JaKobe Coles has entered the transfer portal. Averaged 6PPG and 3RPG this past season in 6 games before suffering a season-ending injury.
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https://twitter.com/hoopscoopmedia/status/1405627388411760640?s=21
Butler freshman forward JaKobe Coles has entered the transfer portal. Averaged 6PPG and 3RPG this past season in 6 games before suffering a season-ending injury.
Butler freshman JaKobe Coles is transferring to TCU. The 6’7” forward averaged 6.3 ppg, and 3.3 rebounds for the Bulldogs.
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1408951158106906624
With bad news. Comes good news.
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Marcus Carr leaving Minnesota.
Longshot, but he'd be a damn near perfect fit.
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Marcus Carr leaving Minnesota.
Longshot, but he'd be a damn near perfect fit.
Haha yeah, not gonna happen but...maybe...? Nah
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Looks like Buzz let Jordan Hall get away. Pulls his commitment from A&M and is returning to St Joes. Ouch.
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Looks like Buzz let Jordan Hall get away. Pulls his commitment from A&M and is returning to St Joes. Ouch.
Where did you see this?
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Where did you see this?
https://twitter.com/damichaelc/status/1410345108906577924?s=21
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Mannn.... Buzz's TAMU tenure has had a bit of a failure to launch. Interested to see how they do this year.
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Kofi Cockburn entered the transfer portal. If we have to lose Garcia, I'd take Cockburn immediately.
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Kofi Cockburn entered the transfer portal. If we have to lose Garcia, I'd take Cockburn immediately.
You and every team in the country.
Just for fun, looked up the T rank impact of Cockburn joining our roster next year. We'd jump from 84th in the country to 38th ;D
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Kofi Cockburn entered the transfer portal. If we have to lose Garcia, I'd take Cockburn immediately.
Wow. What is happening at Illinois? Lost all 3 assistant coaches, and a number of transfers.
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Illinois fans loved the transfer portal the other day when Garcia was on campus. Today it looks like they hate it. Fans on Twitter are livid.
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Kofi Cockburn entered the transfer portal. If we have to lose Garcia, I'd take Cockburn immediately.
MU might have to throw in a draft pick or two but totally worth it.
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Kofi Cockburn entered the transfer portal. If we have to lose Garcia, I'd take Cockburn immediately.
Another guy worth signing on name alone.
Cockburn would get everyone over the heartburn of Garcia
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MU might have to throw in a draft pick or two but totally worth it.
Maybe we will have to throw in a David Gruber commercial opportunity or two to balance salaries.
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Another guy worth signing on name alone.
Cockburn would get everyone over the heartburn of Garcia
Uhh....yes. I would think Shaka is on this
Herman.
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Do players like Cockburn use the NIL like home buying these days? I will be accepting offers through Thursday, I will decide on Sunday, make sure to make your offer accelerators clear….
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Do players like Cockburn use the NIL like home buying these days? I will be accepting offers through Thursday, I will decide on Sunday, make sure to make your offer accelerators clear….
Just think of the endorsement possibilities for Cockburn.
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Just think of the endorsement possibilities for Cockburn.
Multiple condom and antibiotic companies should be contacting him.
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Lotrimin Ultra mae bea negotiatin' a deel as wee type, aina?
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Lotrimin Ultra mae bea negotiatin' a deel as wee type, aina?
Touche
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I'd be down with adding Kevin Obanor.
Wojo never went after these late additions to the transfer portal. Curious if Smart will or if he wants to focus on building the team he has.
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I'd be down with adding Kevin Obanor.
Wojo never went after these late additions to the transfer portal. Curious if Smart will or if he wants to focus on building the team he has.
Likewise but that seems wildly unlikely
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I'd be down with adding Kevin Obanor.
Wojo never went after these late additions to the transfer portal. Curious if Smart will or if he wants to focus on building the team he has.
My guess is he would pursue . Big men who shoot 46.3 % are worth the effort.
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Do players like Cockburn use the NIL like home buying these days? I will be accepting offers through Thursday, I will decide on Sunday, make sure to make your offer accelerators clear….
Yes they do. I’ve been involved in multiple recruiting calls with transfers where NIL is asked about by both players and parents. Schools are making NIL promises.
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Multiple condom and antibiotic companies should be contacting him.
Is it coincidence as soon as Cockburn entered the portal a Player from Oral entered the portal
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Obanor should be pursued relentlessly.
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My guess is he would pursue . Big men who shoot 46.3 % are worth the effort.
What's not to like about this guy? Realistically, his 3 point percentage probably takes a bit of a hit in major conferences with tougher defenders than he has been facing - maybe 5% - but still, this guy would be a great addition.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1411339094555344897?s=21
Louisiana transfer Cedric Russell has heard from Marquette, Texas Tech, Arkansas, St. John’s, Oklahoma and Western Kentucky. Averaged 17.2 points and shot 40% from 3. First-team All-Sun Belt.
Looks like Shaka is still active on the transfer market. This guy actually hurts our t rank when added to our roster haha.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1411339094555344897?s=21
Louisiana transfer Cedric Russell has heard from Marquette, Texas Tech, Arkansas, St. John’s, Oklahoma and Western Kentucky. Averaged 17.2 points and shot 40% from 3. First-team All-Sun Belt.
Looks like Shaka is still active on the transfer market. This guy actually hurts our t rank when added to our roster haha.
Which means Garcia is gone and Shaka knows it.
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Which means Garcia is gone and Shaka knows it.
Thought the exact same thing.
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Dis wuz defacto 3 months ago. Y'all kneed ta reed da tee leaves bedder, hey?
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1411339094555344897?s=21
Louisiana transfer Cedric Russell has heard from Marquette, Texas Tech, Arkansas, St. John’s, Oklahoma and Western Kentucky. Averaged 17.2 points and shot 40% from 3. First-team All-Sun Belt.
Looks like Shaka is still active on the transfer market. This guy actually hurts our t rank when added to our roster haha.
I’d rather the minutes go to the younger guys than this guy next year. If next year is a “culture establishment” year, they have the dudes in place for that.
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Wonder how many times Shaka has even went to visit Garcia. Think Shaka knew from day one that Garcia wasn’t coming back, but most likely felt he was gone to other professional opportunities so he didn’t bother trying to recruit him back. The NBA ship seems to have really sailed.
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Obanor should be pursued relentlessly.
I think Obanor has two years of eligibility left.
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Which means Garcia is gone and Shaka knows it.
Yep. I was expecting Garcia to announce UNC yesterday. I think Shaka has known for quite a while, maybe even from the beginning.
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Yep. I was expecting Garcia to announce UNC yesterday. I think Shaka has known for quite a while, maybe even from the beginning.
He's visiting Arizona today.
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My guess is he would pursue . Big men who shoot 46.3 % are worth the effort.
Agree
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Obanor should be pursued relentlessly.
Agree
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He's visiting Arizona today.
Thanks for the info. I thought he was down to UNC and UI. Arizona visit= all the more reason for me to abandon my slim hopes that he would surprise us and come back.
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Thanks for the info. I thought he was down to UNC and UI. Arizona visit= all the more reason for me to abandon my slim hopes that he would surprise us and come back.
Obandor being recruited by Arizona , UNC et al as well.
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball/2021/7/2/22561206/kevin-obanor-transfer-oral-roberts-arizona-wildcats-basketball-recruiting-scholarships-depth-chart
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Is it coincidence as soon as Cockburn entered the portal a Player from Oral entered the portal
shaka hopefully is going after this cock. We need a big cock that rocks. Not a Walter Downing, mind you. But come on.
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Ohio-State-Oklahoma-Texas-Tech-Marquette-St-Johns-Cedric-Russell-167544850/
In Cedric Russell's top 5. Deciding this week.
Marquette: “Our relationship is pretty good but it's kind of the same with Oklahoma because they’re new over there so it can go one of two ways. Our relationship is good though, coach Haynes is a good guy and obviously coach Smart is a cool guy as well. We had a nice little talk. They told me how they play and what they're looking for.”
Most lukewarm summary I've ever read, lol
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Ohio-State-Oklahoma-Texas-Tech-Marquette-St-Johns-Cedric-Russell-167544850/
In Cedric Russell's top 5. Deciding this week.
Most lukewarm summary I've ever read, lol
Yeah, if his descriptions are any indication, he's heading to tOSU.
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Ohio-State-Oklahoma-Texas-Tech-Marquette-St-Johns-Cedric-Russell-167544850/
In Cedric Russell's top 5. Deciding this week.
Most lukewarm summary I've ever read, lol
Agree. The part about "it could go one of two ways" ? Oh really?
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Russell just committed to tOSU.
https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1413558214797545476?s=21
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Another green weenie
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Another green weenie
Remember when some were arguing that any recruit or transfer who expressed interest in Marquette but ended up going elsewhere was considered the MU coach "losing" that recruit/transfer?
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Remember when some were arguing that any recruit or transfer who expressed interest in Marquette but ended up going elsewhere was considered the MU coach "losing" that recruit/transfer?
Edit for correct thread
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Looks like Illinois or Florida State for Kofi Cockburn.
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Looks like Illinois or Florida State for Kofi Cockburn.
Been hearing some chatter about Kofi and St. John's.
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Been hearing some chatter about Kofi and St. John's.
Well Kofi himself is publicly lying about his finalists then
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https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1416050532779712514?s=21
Kevin Obanor To Texas Tech
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Kofi Cockburn returning to Illinois