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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MU82 on November 13, 2023, 07:50:46 AM
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Given that Marquette has multiple NBA prospects and that this will be a much-discussed topic all season, I thought it could have its own thread.
The Athletic's Sam Vecenie is out with a new mock today, and he has Oso going 35th overall, three picks ahead of Zach Edey.
Vecenie has Kolek going with the last pick in the draft - #58 (two teams had to forfeit their second-round picks).
Other Big East players in Vecenie's mock:
5. Donovan Clingan ... 6. Stephon Castle ... 10. Garwey Dual ... 14. Trey Alexander ... 46. Bryce Hopkins ... 48. Alex Karaban ... 51. Baylor Scheierman ... 52. Ryan Kalkbrenner.
https://theathletic.com/5009208/2023/11/13/nba-mock-draft-2024-alexandre-sarr/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
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Given that Marquette has multiple NBA prospects and that this will be a much-discussed topic all season, I thought it could have its own thread.
The Athletic's Sam Vecenie is out with a new mock today, and he has Oso going 35th overall, three picks ahead of Zach Edey.
Vecenie has Kolek going with the last pick in the draft - #58 (two teams had to forfeit their second-round picks).
Other Big East players in Vecenie's mock:
5. Donovan Clingan ... 6. Stephon Castle ... 10. Garwey Dual ... 14. Trey Alexander ... 46. Bryce Hopkins ... 48. Alex Karaban ... 51. Baylor Scheierman ... 52. Ryan Kalkbrenner.
https://theathletic.com/5009208/2023/11/13/nba-mock-draft-2024-alexandre-sarr/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
They gowne. Next man up, aina?
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Heard Sam has knocked Tyler to #98 after the injury
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Take this with a grain of salt because I am wrong roughly 100% of the time at these things, but I think Kam Jones and Chase Ross are the only two players on our roster that have a chance to have any kind of career in the NBA. Oso and Tyler have floor vision that cannot be taught, but lack the necessary physical attributes, IMO.
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Tyler being paid very well at MU, better then the G League, would not be surprised if he comes back
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Take this with a grain of salt because I am wrong roughly 100% of the time at these things, but I think Kam Jones and Chase Ross are the only two players on our roster that have a chance to have any kind of career in the NBA. Oso and Tyler have floor vision that cannot be taught, but lack the necessary physical attributes, IMO.
Oso can do everything but shoot.
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I have never followed him that closely. Why is Zach Edey so low?
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I have never followed him that closely. Why is Zach Edey so low?
One dimensional, plays very traditional big man style that's been out of the nba for awhile now, not seen as having a huge athletic upside.
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I have never followed him that closely. Why is Zach Edey so low?
Can't guard in space.
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Can't guard in space.
Not that great a defender on Earth, either.
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Not that great a defender on Earth, either.
Finally something actually funny posted on here.
Well done
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Your drunk posts are usually good for a laugh.
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Been a few good ones :o
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Oso can do everything but shoot.
Shooting is a big thing to be missing. He lacks strength, too. I just don't see it for him at the next level. Like I said, I'm usually wrong about things like this.
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I am not an NBA watcher, but I have heard a couple of draft "experts" say that this year's draft is fairly thin compared to the last couple of years - perhaps creating opportunity for players that would not have been drafted last year, for instance.
While Oso is a wonderful college player, I too have a hard time envisioning him in the NBA, though a career in Europe is certainly a possibility for him. Same for Tyler, though I think he actually has a little better shot at making an NBA roster. I do agree that Chase Ross and Kam Jones seem to be logical NBA candidates.
I think I have read somewhere that Oso has already indicated that he will not be back next year, and it is hard to imagine Tyler returning. So, depending on how things play out this year, MU could be looking at losing four of its top six players. But, that's part of what makes college ball so enjoyable - the landscape is always changing.
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Oso has some crazy passing ability for his size. If a shooting coach believes they can build him into a competent shooter they'll take a flyer on him in the second round imo. I don't see a situation where he's a first rounder given his height and what we've seen his skill set to be. Good college center but in the NBA he's a PF and that requires the ability to shoot the 3
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Oso has some crazy passing ability for his size. If a shooting coach believes they can build him into a competent shooter they'll take a flyer on him in the second round imo. I don't see a situation where he's a first rounder given his height and what we've seen his skill set to be. Good college center but in the NBA he's a PF and that requires the ability to shoot the 3
Huge fan of Oso, but was very surprised to see he did not make significant changes to his shooting form over the offseason. Even his free throws have a very low release point. Seems he is far too good of an athlete to have an awkward and inconsistent release. Old habits die hard I guess. Still, love his game overall and think he will have a great season.
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Huge fan of Oso, but was very surprised to see he did not make significant changes to his shooting form over the offseason. Even his free throws have a very low release point. Seems he is far too good of an athlete to have an awkward and inconsistent release. Old habits die hard I guess. Still, love his game overall and think he will have a great season.
Yeah I dont really care about him taking 3s much if at all. But so far through 2 games his free throws look not improved. That I was hoping he would work at.
Especially considering he lacks a consistent ability to finish through contact so most of the times his trips to the line are shooting 2 and not a plus 1.
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I am not an NBA watcher, but I have heard a couple of draft "experts" say that this year's draft is fairly thin compared to the last couple of years - perhaps creating opportunity for players that would not have been drafted last year, for instance.
While Oso is a wonderful college player, I too have a hard time envisioning him in the NBA, though a career in Europe is certainly a possibility for him. Same for Tyler, though I think he actually has a little better shot at making an NBA roster. I do agree that Chase Ross and Kam Jones seem to be logical NBA candidates.
I think I have read somewhere that Oso has already indicated that he will not be back next year, and it is hard to imagine Tyler returning. So, depending on how things play out this year, MU could be looking at losing four of its top six players. But, that's part of what makes college ball so enjoyable - the landscape is always changing.
High chance of NBA, guaranteed European talent. At the highest level.
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Latest ESPN Mock:
18. Oso
33. Kolek
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Latest ESPN Mock:
18. Oso
33. Kolek
Oso needs to come back and work on his game
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Oso needs to come back and work on his game
Haven’t seen the treys yet.
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I know not a lot of people have tracked him since he left the program, but Jose Perez has tremendous NBA talent and potential. His ball handling abilities, court vision, multi dimensional defending (on and off the court), and a knack for finding a bucket will earn him a lot of money in the league. NBA scouts have been watching him, but imo not close enough. With Zach LaVine currently sitting at 2 points on the year for the bulls, they would be stupid to pass up Jose. Culturally and team wise you can not find a better player. He is a blood in/blood out type of guy in the locker room. Just my two cents. Ring out!
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I know not a lot of people have tracked him since he left the program, but Jose Perez has tremendous NBA talent and potential. His ball handling abilities, court vision, multi dimensional defending (on and off the court), and a knack for finding a bucket will earn him a lot of money in the league. NBA scouts have been watching him, but imo not close enough. With Zach LaVine currently sitting at 2 points on the year for the bulls, they would be stupid to pass up Jose. Culturally and team wise you can not find a better player. He is a blood in/blood out type of guy in the locker room. Just my two cents. Ring out!
Jose Perez is 25 years old and playing in his sixth year of college basketball at his fifth institution. He isn't going to have a significant NBA career. I doubt he even logs a minute.
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Jose Perez is 25 years old and playing in his sixth year of college basketball at his fifth institution. He isn't going to have a significant NBA career. I doubt he even logs a minute.
That was one of those posts where for the sake of the board I instantly assumed he just avoided teal for a response like yours
The Lavine stuff to the end sold it.
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That was one of those posts where for the sake of the board I instantly assumed he just avoided teal for a response like yours
The Lavine stuff to the end sold it.
He's mentioned Perez multiple times in similar fashion. I have no idea if its a bit or what. If so, it's an oddly specific one.,
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Jose Perez is 25 years old and playing in his sixth year of college basketball at his fifth institution. He isn't going to have a significant NBA career. I doubt he even logs a minute.
I'm pretty sure Jose Perez is now 42 years old.
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It’s not a bit. Once upon a time the loyalist thought Dan Fitzgerald was going to be a star in the league.
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Having a decent season with ASU.
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Latest ESPN Mock:
18. Oso
33. Kolek
ESPN take with a grain of salt
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He's mentioned Perez multiple times in similar fashion. I have no idea if its a bit or what. If so, it's an oddly specific one.,
Lots of odd, repetitive bits on Scoop.
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Tyler being paid very well at MU, better then the G League, would not be surprised if he comes back
Also, he doesn't want to get drafted by the Jazz and have his development stunted in the G League.
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Jose Perez is 25 years old and playing in his sixth year of college basketball at his fifth institution. He isn't going to have a significant NBA career. I doubt he even logs a minute.
Never doubt a winner. Someone who has survived for as long as Jose has in high level D1 basketball programs is enormously successful. Someone who is 25 is in the prime of their life. Someone who has 6 years of basketball experience in power conferences knows how to play. Jose is a man with high basketball IQ. He also has managed to avoid getting a real job. Which not a lot of people on board can say. Please stand down Sultan.
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He's mentioned Perez multiple times in similar fashion. I have no idea if its a bit or what. If so, it's an oddly specific one.,
I assumed it was a bot, but maybe a bit? A bot doing a bit?
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It’s not a bit. Once upon a time the loyalist thought Dan Fitzgerald was going to be a star in the league.
Dan Fitzgerald is a fine man who played his role the best he could. Sometimes you call the league and the league doesnt answer. Its about what happens when you get up off the mat.
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Never doubt a winner. Someone who has survived for as long as Jose has in high level D1 basketball programs is enormously successful. Someone who is 25 is in the prime of their life. Someone who has 6 years of basketball experience in power conferences knows how to play. Jose is a man with high basketball IQ. He also has managed to avoid getting a real job. Which not a lot of people on board can say. Please stand down Sultan.
This is awesome.
He certainly doesn’t have 6 years of experience in power conferences, though. Unless the Big South and MAAC are power conferences.
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Anyhoo ...
That's pretty cool about Oso and Kolek. Wouldn't be surprised to see Kam's name start popping up, too, if he continues to perform as he has.
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Jose Perez is 25 years old and playing in his sixth year of college basketball at his fifth institution. He isn't going to have a significant NBA career. I doubt he even logs a minute.
In some fairness to Jose, the school changed coaches at 3 of his 5 stops. (Wojo, Maisello, Huggins)
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Jose Perez, Serial Coach Killer
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Latest ESPN Mock:
18. Oso
33. Kolek
Hilarious to see previous commentary and bearishness and then have Oso pop up as a near lottery pick.
People who watch A LOT of basketball for a living have been raving about Oso. He can't shoot from deep yet, but he's super athletic, an incredible passer for his size, and runs the floor very very well. He reminds me of Javale McGee, minus the bonehead streak. Or more recently, look at Evan Mobley. Same general size and build and he's not popping off from deep with any consistency or danger.
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Hilarious to see previous commentary and bearishness and then have Oso pop up as a near lottery pick.
People who watch A LOT of basketball for a living have been raving about Oso. He can't shoot from deep yet, but he's super athletic, an incredible passer for his size, and runs the floor very very well. He reminds me of Javale McGee, minus the bonehead streak. Or more recently, look at Evan Mobley. Same general size and build and he's not popping off from deep with any consistency or danger.
NBA scouts don't know ball
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Hilarious to see previous commentary and bearishness and then have Oso pop up as a near lottery pick.
People who watch A LOT of basketball for a living have been raving about Oso. He can't shoot from deep yet, but he's super athletic, an incredible passer for his size, and runs the floor very very well. He reminds me of Javale McGee, minus the bonehead streak. Or more recently, look at Evan Mobley. Same general size and build and he's not popping off from deep with any consistency or danger.
McGee & Mobley? Wat
Usages, dr%, blk% (!!!) all tell us there’s quite a diff
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Hilarious to see previous commentary and bearishness and then have Oso pop up as a near lottery pick.
People who watch A LOT of basketball for a living have been raving about Oso. He can't shoot from deep yet, but he's super athletic, an incredible passer for his size, and runs the floor very very well. He reminds me of Javale McGee, minus the bonehead streak. Or more recently, look at Evan Mobley. Same general size and build and he's not popping off from deep with any consistency or danger.
If only somebody on scoop had been saying since spring that Oso would be drafted.
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If only somebody on scoop had been saying since spring that Oso would be drafted.
Yep there were plenty of scoopers on the Oso train.
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Jose Perez, Serial Coach Killer
Bucket burglar
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McGee & Mobley? Wat
Usages, dr%, blk% (!!!) all tell us there’s quite a diff
Apparently NBA scouts feel the same way about blk% (at least for Marquette prospects) as you do about FT%. Nuttin' mattas!
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Apparently NBA scouts feel the same way about blk% (at least for Marquette prospects) as you do about FT%. Nuttin' mattas!
Jolps 0.7% blk percentage compared to Omax at 0.5% has caused our defensive efficiency to go from 43rd to 14th
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Hilarious to see previous commentary and bearishness and then have Oso pop up as a near lottery pick.
I see what you did there
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Jose Perez, Serial Coach Killer
Wow seriously! Didn't realize he was at ASU this year. Hurley has never made it out of the round of 64, I realize they were just in the tournament last year but how much longer does he get? They're going nowhere fast this season and it's been 9 years. Gotta think unless they're the most apathetic fan base around his seat would at least be modestly warm (token contract extension he signed this year notwithstanding). A 4/5 coaches-fired record would be amazing!
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In the past 40 years, ASU has 8 NCAA appearances. Hurley is responsible for half of those. There's a chance he could be their second winningest coach this year and will certainly be that if he gets another year. He's not great, but as a program, they are pretty bad. I'd argue he's their second most successful coach of all time.
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Not exactly a “mock draft” but Vecenie today put Oso at No. 12 on his big board and Tyler at 26: https://theathletic.com/5107064/2023/12/06/nba-draft-2024-big-board-isiah-collier-reed-sheppard/?source=user_shared_article
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Not exactly a “mock draft” but Vecenie today put Oso at No. 12 on his big board and Tyler at 26: https://theathletic.com/5107064/2023/12/06/nba-draft-2024-big-board-isiah-collier-reed-sheppard/?source=user_shared_article
Scoop is going to be shocked by this revelation
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Rico
Many on here were shocked last year when every announcer mentioned the scouts at the game to see Omax. Oso, Kolek and Ben Gold get the most love from the announcers and analysts in regard to the big picture. I cannot remember the former UConn player that I heard interviewed last year about MU, and he said multiple times that Oso will play in the NBA for a decade+.
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:P
Rico
Many on here were shocked last year when every announcer mentioned the scouts at the game to see Omax. Oso, Kolek and Ben Gold get the most love from the announcers and analysts in regard to the big picture. I cannot remember the former UConn player that I heard interviewed last year about MU, and he said multiple times that Oso will play in the NBA for a decade+.
I wasn’t on the OMax doubters list. Givony had him top 60 like in April of ‘22 and he was one of the better evaluators and had access to what scouts and other evaluators were saying.
When Vencie puts those guys in the top 30, he isn’t doing so blindly. As Marquette fans, the desire is for them to comeback cuz that’s what we want. Truth is, these guys and the staff know their worth outside the program and won’t hold them back
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Oso is one of the most versatile bigs in the country. He has shown he can hang with and defend any college big. He can handle the ball and initiate offense. The NBA loves unicorns like him. They all assume that they can help him develop a jumper.
So, no surprise. Watch the NBA. Watch how the good teams run their offenses. Watch how they switch on defense. It is easy to project Oso into that. They love long, athletic, versatile bigs.
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Rico
My goal is that Oso and Kolek provide MU fans a ton more excitement over the upcoming months and create a legacy that will be remembered for many years to come. The value of them being first round picks is extremely important for the program. Their job at MU hopefully ends in April and then on to playing for real money.
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Never doubt a winner. Someone who has survived for as long as Jose has in high level D1 basketball programs is enormously successful. Someone who is 25 is in the prime of their life. Someone who has 6 years of basketball experience in power conferences knows how to play. Jose is a man with high basketball IQ. He also has managed to avoid getting a real job. Which not a lot of people on board can say. Please stand down Sultan.
Bump.
Jose Perez is now a professional basketball player. Don't care what anyone says, the sky is the limit for this kid. Very few people can call themselves pro basketball players and play at the high level environments he has. Stay up Jose! Proud of this young man.
https://arizonasports.com/story/3544292/jose-perez-makes-professional-debut-after-leaving-arizona-state/?show=comments
https://arizonasports.com/story/3544316/jose-perez-bobby-hurley-leaving-arizona-state/
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New mock from The Athletic has TK going #29 to Denver and Oso at #34 to Portland.
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New mock from The Athletic has TK going #29 to Denver and Oso at #34 to Portland.
Hope we get to see 3 more weeks from these guys. Hope everyone has been enjoying them the last few months.
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Hope we get to see 3 more weeks from these guys. Hope everyone has been enjoying them the last few months.
The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.
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The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.
No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.
Of course all they all need to be healthy.
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No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.
Of course all they all need to be healthy.
I mean, Duke and Kentucky have that many draft picks every single year. And usually high firsts, not boarder line firsts and down the road maybe NBA players.
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No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.
Of course all they all need to be healthy.
Happens every year, usually to multiple teams.
Last year, it was Arkansas and UCLA.
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I mean, Duke and Kentucky have that many draft picks every single year. And usually high firsts, not boarder line firsts and down the road maybe NBA players.
In the same mock draft, Kentucky has four projected draft choices and two projected lottery picks. I'd be surprised if they could hang with UConn. Projecting the NCAA results based on NBA draft projections will not lead to very accurate results.
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No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.
Of course all they all need to be healthy.
So what happens if we play Colorado?
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Oso and Tyler aren’t ready.
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So what happens if we play Colorado?
They concern me. Two high first round picks? I'm still scarred from Ja Morant, so I'd rather not see them.
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Oso and Tyler aren’t ready.
They will be after 2 more year’s at Marquette - 3 tops!
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Colorado was a bubble team for a reason. Having a great team goes well beyond having a lottery pick.
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Colorado was a bubble team for a reason. Having a great team goes well beyond having a lottery pick.
Have won 8 of 9. 26 in KenPom, more like a 7-seed which is what you get in round 2! 5th in the nation in 3-point shooting.
Nonetheless, you’re correct. Marquette will/would be favored against them and should beat them
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I think that for the good of their alma mater, TyKo, Oso, and Kam should play rock paper scissors. The winner declares for the draft. The other two stay at Marquette for another year.
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The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.
Been saying for some time now that Kam can have an NBA career. Selfishly, it would be great for Marquette to get one more season out of him, but we'll see what kind of advice he gets.
Anyhoo ... Kam, TK and Oso can worry about all that after these next 6 wins.
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5th in the nation in 3-point shooting.
5th in the nation in 3P%
323rd in 3PA/FGA (rate at which they shoot 3Ps)
They are very accurate but only shoot a handful of threes a game. Most of their damage is done inside, they only take wide open catch and shoot threes.
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Saw a Kolek comp on Twitter that I think is probably the best yet - Goran Dragic. About the same size and build, with similar scoring and passing abilities once they get downhill. Tyler will need to improve his outside shooting, but IMO that will come. Not sure if he will get to that level, but the game is similar.
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Oso has some crazy passing ability for his size. If a shooting coach believes they can build him into a competent shooter they'll take a flyer on him in the second round imo. I don't see a situation where he's a first rounder given his height and what we've seen his skill set to be. Good college center but in the NBA he's a PF and that requires the ability to shoot the 3
Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.
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Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.
Nope.
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New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted
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New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted
Not surprised by either.
This is very strange to say, but I hope Oso has been dealing with an issue. Something that is being or has been addressed and that NBA scouts can wrap their heads around to explain the level of play the past 3-4 weeks.
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New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted
Yeah, Oso more or less disappearing in the BET and NCAA crushed his draft stock.
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Oso had 20 points against Providence, when his arm was practically yanked out of its socket by Oduro. He then was too passive against Clingan before he went to the bench early with some kind of leg injury. He did not have his usual bounce in the NCAAs, and I can't help but think it's related to those injuries.
But yes, performing poorly on the big stage had to have hurt him. Hopefully he'll be 100% and will get wow the scouts again at the Combine and in individual workouts for teams.
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Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.
I think he's more likely to play in Europe than come back to MU. He seems ready to be done with college.
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I have seen Oso in early second round in the ringer and NBA draft.net boards yet. But yes, he fell off the ESPN board.
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Oso didn't help his stock, but I also don't think that he hurt it all that much. NBA drafts on potential, if an NBA team thought they could develop him three weeks ago, I don't know why they wouldn't still.
Also, outside of the very obvious top of draft decisions, I feel like mock drafts are really all over the place.
The Ringer, updated last week still had Oso as a first rounder, and TKO as a second rounder. Both behind Devin Carter who hasn't even played the last few weeks and Reed Sheppard who ended his season with a grand total of 3 points in Kentucky's loss to Oakland. Think fans tend to dive too deep into box scores and don't look at what a player has the potential to be in 3-5 years.
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft
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He should come back to get his doctorate so that he can continue to entertain fans, some of whom will crap on him if he doesn't meet their expectations.
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He should come back to get his doctorate so that he can continue to entertain fans, some of whom will crap on him if he doesn't meet their expectations.
No different than the NBA
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No different than the NBA
All pro sports are entertainment. MU, Bucks, Brewers, all are here for our entertainment.
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Let’s see where Oso’s mocked after he tests. There are some NBA teams that will love him and not care too much about his tourney performance
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Let’s see where Oso’s mocked after he tests. There are some NBA teams that will love him and not care too much about his tourney performance
This is what it is about. It all comes down to individual workouts for teams. I, too, think he was injured, so I think after the workouts, he will be somewhere in the 30-40 range.
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I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.
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I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.
I agree, except I think Oso had more than a handful of really good games.
Until the last couple weeks, he was one of the very best bigs in the country. He was consistently outstanding, his unique skill set at both ends of the court bedeviled opponents, and he outplayed the likes of Dickinson and Kalkbrenner, and even Clingan the second time.
We'll see soon enough how good scouts' memories of him are, but I'm not gonna let a couple bad weeks - when I'm pretty sure he was battling injuries - change my perception of him.
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If you read anyone posting something along the lines of Oso needs to come back and work on his game in college as a 22 year-old, go ahead and ignore them. They don’t know ball.
What about his lack of a jump shot? You’re right, he should definitely comeback to a program that specializes on jump shots and work on that there.
Well, he had a bad March. Great point. Looking back at the last handful of drafts, you see a litany of players whose careers ended because of a bad month, erasing all the hours of film and scouting done on them prior.
Going to be a long off-season
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I agree Oso had more than a handful, but I thought he had 4-5 exceptional games and looked like one of the best big in the country those nights. IMO, he did not help himself the last two weeks and did not hurt himself either. That said, he probably hurt his chances of climbing the board in the NCAA, but likely did not cost himself much.
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I agree Oso had more than a handful, but I thought he had 4-5 exceptional games and looked like one of the best big in the country those nights. IMO, he did not help himself the last two weeks and did not hurt himself either. That said, he probably hurt his chances of climbing the board in the NCAA, but likely did not cost himself much.
Fair enough, Goose.
We sure were lucky to get to watch Oso and TK, especially these last 2 years.
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I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.
Maybe, but I’m somewhat skeptical. Oso had a great career at MU both on and off the court - a special person and player. His one drawback (aside from shooting) was that he went through periods when he was passive. Those periods lasted much longer in the BE tournament and the NCAAs - the biggest stages, the brightest lights. I think he hurt himself in the draft but I hope I’m wrong.
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Kolek up to #20 on The Athletic's 2024 NBA Draft "big board." One ahead of Edey.
Oso at #42.
A few others of note ...
Two UConn players in the top 5 - Castle at #3 and Clingan at #5. Also, Karaban at #33, Spencer at #43, Newton at #50.
Devin Carter at #15, with commentary that he'll be an immediate contributor because of his defensive ability.
Two Colorado players in top 20 - Williams at #9 and de Silva at #19. Plus Simpson at #51. That was a good team MU beat.
Scheierman at #27 and Alexander at #37.
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Kolek up to #20 on The Athletic's 2024 NBA Draft "big board." One ahead of Edey.
Oso at #42.
A few others of note ...
Two UConn players in the top 5 - Castle at #3 and Clingan at #5. Also, Karaban at #33, Spencer at #43, Newton at #50.
Devin Carter at #15, with commentary that he'll be an immediate contributor because of his defensive ability.
Two Colorado players in top 20 - Williams at #9 and de Silva at #19. Plus Simpson at #51. That was a good team MU beat.
Scheierman at #27 and Alexander at #37.
Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the first round.
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Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the first round.
He’s way better than Sam Hauser who has played a lot this year. He’ll be a scorer off the bench - maybe even as a rookie.
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Hauser shot 44% from 3 at Marquette and Virginia.
In 2 seasons of high-major hoops, Scheierman shot 37%.
Hauser was considered an elite shooter. We'll see if Scheierman gets similar consideration. Scheierman was a better rebounder FWIW. Neither won any defensive awards.
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I’m hearing this is like a historically terrible draft class
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He’s way better than Sam Hauser who has played a lot this year. He’ll be a scorer off the bench - maybe even as a rookie.
Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the 1st round.
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He’s way better than Sam Hauser who has played a lot this year. He’ll be a scorer off the bench - maybe even as a rookie.
Not only is he not "way better," he isn't even "better."
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Not only is he not "way better," he isn't even "better."
He’s a better teammate
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Not only is he not "way better," he isn't even "better."
I shouldn't have used the word 'way', but I have no doubt he is better.
13.8/7.8/3.9 to 13.3/6.1/2.1 Plus Baylor is a better athlete - certainly not elite, but better. Baylor is also able to create his own shot, which Sam was never good at.
But, we'll see.
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Tyler in the top 30, huh.
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CBS Sports, updated mock yesterday, has Kolek going #27.
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CBS Sports, updated mock yesterday, has Kolek going #27.
He’ll never play in the NBA and needs to come back
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He’ll never play in the NBA and needs to come back
He will play in NBA.
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He will play in NBA.
You’re new here?
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You’re new here?
Meh, sometimes I miss the posts authors name...
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Meh, sometimes I miss the posts authors name...
Some of Scoop’s top basketball minds said Tyler wont play in the NBA or isn’t ready
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Some of Scoop’s top basketball minds said Tyler wont play in the NBA or isn’t ready
Oso needs to come back for another year.
So does OMax.
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Oso needs to come back for another year.
So does OMax.
Looking forward to Tyler, Oso, O-Max, and Justin using their covid years next season.