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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mu_hilltopper on October 28, 2016, 10:33:49 AM
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Whoa ..
(http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/seasonal-dome.jpg)
http://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/marquette-to-construct-seasonal-dome-over-portion-of-valley-fields-facility/
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I have seen this done at other schools. It is actually pretty cool.
http://athletics.augsburg.edu/sports/2009/11/4/auggiedome.aspx/
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Tom Crean's donation check finally came through?
That is not the most aesthetically pleasing thing in the world, but should be put to good use.
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Here .. much more aesthetically pleasing!
(http://i.imgur.com/HS8rxoG.jpg)
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Here .. much more aesthetically pleasing!
(http://i.imgur.com/HS8rxoG.jpg)
Damn that looks good!
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Love this. Any guesses on the sponsor/donor name?
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Love this. Any guesses on the sponsor/donor name?
Depends?
Stay Puft?
Charmin?
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Depends?
Stay Puft?
Charmin?
No no no. It can't *absorb* water. It has to *repel* water.
The "Rust Oleum Dome"
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http://www.gomarquette.com/genrel/102816aaa.html
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Love this. Any guesses on the sponsor/donor name?
The much awaited, highly anticipated Benny B Thunderdome!!!
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That puffy pillow dome looks totally outdated to me. Think the Hubert H. Humphrey Metronome (built in 1982, demolished in 2014).
Granted, soccer teams don't get near the resources as football or basketball. And I'm no structural engineer. But I would think you could still use modern materials like the EFTE roof in Minnesota's new U.S. Bank Stadium (also planned for upgrading the roof of the Carrier Dome). EFTE not only looks better, it's also stronger and lasts longer.
Is this really the impression we want to make in the valley?
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/index.ssf/2016/05/syracuses_skyline_will_get_modern_look_thanks_to_carrier_dome_renovation.html
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Is this really the impression we want to make in the valley?
I think you're overestimating what it takes to make a positive improvement to the Valley.
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That puffy pillow dome looks totally outdated to me. Think the Hubert H. Humphrey Metronome (built in 1982, demolished in 2014).
Granted, soccer teams don't get near the resources as football or basketball. And I'm no structural engineer. But I would think you could still use modern materials like the EFTE roof in Minnesota's new U.S. Bank Stadium (also planned for upgrading the roof of the Carrier Dome). EFTE not only looks better, it's also stronger and lasts longer.
Is this really the impression we want to make in the valley?
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/index.ssf/2016/05/syracuses_skyline_will_get_modern_look_thanks_to_carrier_dome_renovation.html
You realize this is only "seasonal"and will only be inflated over the winter months right?
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Here .. much more aesthetically pleasing!
(http://i.imgur.com/HS8rxoG.jpg)
Hmm...is it offensive and/or racist?
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Hmm...is it offensive and/or racist?
Depends on if we point it toward the casino or school
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This had been outlined in the campus master plan previously released. Good idea.
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You realize this is only "seasonal"and will only be inflated over the winter months right?
I still think it's quite ugly.
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I still think it's quite ugly.
Okay, but it's being built for functionality during the winter on a budget. No different than similar structures.
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Okay, but it's being built for functionality during the winter on a budget. No different than similar structures.
I get that. I just don't see Marquette applying that same standard — it's cheap, functional and temporary, who cares how it looks — to any other highly visible campus facilities.
Maybe instead of an expensive new student dormitory that fits in with the campus architectural style, we should just line up a bunch of temporary trailers along Wisconsin Avenue during the fall and spring semesters. We don't need them in the summer when students aren't in session, right?
Marquette has clearly made architecture an important part of its brand — a balance of functionality and aesthetics. In that regard, this "solution" for the soccer field is a failure. Just my opinion.
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It's a temporary blow up dome for the cold months down in the Valley. Somehow apply that to student housing is relevant how???
I'm sure building a permanent dome down there would be nice. However that would mean a lot more than $3.2 million.
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It's a temporary blow up dome for the cold months down in the Valley. Somehow apply that to student housing is relevant how???
This is the key...temporary...
Bill Scholl, vice president and director of athletics. “As we continue to plan for our athletic performance research center, it was important that we take a more immediate step in meeting the demand of our increasingly active student body.”
I mean, I can't prove that they'll stop using it after the APRC is completed, but I read it to say they didn't want to wait that long.
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Hopefully it doesn't pull a Metrodome.
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It's a temporary blow up dome for the cold months down in the Valley. Somehow apply that to student housing is relevant how???
I'm sure building a permanent dome down there would be nice. However that would mean a lot more than $3.2 million.
I couldn't care much less about winning this argument: A) it sounds like a done deal — so my opinion means pretty much zero; 2) I pay almost no attention to Marquette sports outside of men's basketball; And D) it's in a part of Milwaukee that I rarely visit, so it's not like I'll have to see that eyesore every day or anything.
But think about the hundreds of millions of dollars that Marquette has spent upgrading its campus facilities over the past 25 years — including a new student union, library, law school, engineering hall, student services building, Al McGuire Center and a beautiful soccer stadium (recently renovated) at Valley Fields.
None of these facilities were designed or built as inexpensive, temporary solutions. This winter dome seems like a cheap fix. And that's not usually Marquette's style.
Again, you may disagree on any or all of the above. Fine by me.
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I got a pillow dat looks like dat. Them athletes don't need no dome. Let' em brave da elements. No wonder we got a nation full of poosays, ai na?
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I would add — beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
From the opinions I've heard and read, I'm among a minority who appreciate The Calling (the big orange I-beam sculpture at the east end of Wisconsin Avenue) as a work of art. To me, its bright color and form suggest an abstract sunrise — which, along with its dynamic angles and rugged construction, serves as an optimistic symbol for Milwaukee.
Others think it's just plain ugly. Or a giant waste of money. Or both.
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What alternatives do you have if you want a structure that you can completely take down once the weather is nice? Are there any practical ones?
This is a great recruiting tool for soccer and lacrosse. I am sure that have lost some great prospects who loved everything about Marquette, but they didn't want to freeze their a$$es off during practice and games.
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I couldn't care much less about winning this argument: A) it sounds like a done deal — so my opinion means pretty much zero; 2) I pay almost no attention to Marquette sports outside of men's basketball; And D) it's in a part of Milwaukee that I rarely visit, so it's not like I'll have to see that eyesore every day or anything.
But think about the hundreds of millions of dollars that Marquette has spent upgrading its campus facilities over the past 25 years — including a new student union, library, law school, engineering hall, student services building, Al McGuire Center and a beautiful soccer stadium (recently renovated) at Valley Fields.
None of these facilities were designed or built as inexpensive, temporary solutions. This winter dome seems like a cheap fix. And that's not usually Marquette's style.
Again, you may disagree on any or all of the above. Fine by me.
thank goodness that it's a done deal... because with all your involvement with Marquette's athletics, i'm sure they would have pulled the whole plug on the project because you don't like the look.
You basically say in your post that you don't care about the valley or MU sports outside of basketball, but then rain all over a temporary dome to improve the life of many Marquette student athletes. sounds like you just complain for the sake of complaining.
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I would add — beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
From the opinions I've heard and read, I'm among a minority who appreciate The Calling (the big orange I-beam sculpture at the east end of Wisconsin Avenue) as a work of art. To me, its bright color and form suggest an abstract sunrise — which, along with its dynamic angles and rugged construction, serves as an optimistic symbol for Milwaukee.
Others think it's just plain ugly. Or a giant waste of money. Or both.
I like it too.
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This is the key...temporary...
Bill Scholl, vice president and director of athletics. “As we continue to plan for our athletic performance research center, it was important that we take a more immediate step in meeting the demand of our increasingly active student body.”
I mean, I can't prove that they'll stop using it after the APRC is completed, but I read it to say they didn't want to wait that long.
Soccer and lacrosse have been severely handicapped because of Wisconsin winter weather and have still been able to compete at the highest level. I'll bet each and every one of those kids is pumped.
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What alternatives do you have if you want a structure that you can completely take down once the weather is nice? Are there any practical ones?
This is a great recruiting tool for soccer and lacrosse. I am sure that have lost some great prospects who loved everything about Marquette, but they didn't want to freeze their a$$es off during practice and games.
I know next to nothing about Marquette's soccer and lacrosse programs. But this sure sounds like poor planning to me.
The soccer stadium goes back to 1993, and recently completed a multi-million dollar renovation. So after 20 years and perhaps $20+ million invested, MU just now realized the need for a year-round facility? There's something called a needs assessment that's supposed to help identify current and future priorities before you start a building project.
But hey — if the soccer and lacrosse teams are happy, more power to them. They won't be concerned in the least what I think about their dome.
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thank goodness that it's a done deal... because with all your involvement with Marquette's athletics, i'm sure they would have pulled the whole plug on the project because you don't like the look.
You basically say in your post that you don't care about the valley or MU sports outside of basketball, but then rain all over a temporary dome to improve the life of many Marquette student athletes. sounds like you just complain for the sake of complaining.
Actually, I hate to complain. I'm an optimist at heart. And I'm a big fan of all the improvements that Marquette has made since I graduated. I drive through the campus of my alma mater every night on my commute home and enjoy it tremendously. And while I don't follow MU soccer or lacrosse, I'm glad that we have a strong, diverse athletic program.
I just happen to think this particular dome is ugly. That's all. The same as I thought the Astrodome, Metrodome and Kingdome were all ugly. Just my opinion.
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3.5 million is about the right price for a facility that dramatically improves playing/practice conditions for non-revenue sports. MU is not a state school that can tap into public money for infrastructure upgrades.
MU has indeed been successful in funding significant improvements on campus, those improvements, with the exception of the Al, have been oriented towards core functions of the university (who am I kidding, hoops is a core function of MU ;) ). The proposed sports bubble seems like a solid and economical upgrade for a university that has fewer than 15K students.
Not everything needs or should be a Taj Mahal.
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Well said Badger.
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It's a practice field...in the Valley. The form matters little to the function in this case. It is a highly functional tool that will greatly enhance the options for outdoor sports. Perhaps with some exterior lighting they can make it look a little nicer, but ultimately, it is a versatile indoor practice space.
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I would add — beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
From the opinions I've heard and read, I'm among a minority who appreciate The Calling (the big orange I-beam sculpture at the east end of Wisconsin Avenue) as a work of art. To me, its bright color and form suggest an abstract sunrise — which, along with its dynamic angles and rugged construction, serves as an optimistic symbol for Milwaukee.
Others think it's just plain ugly. Or a giant waste of money. Or both.
That thing is a piece of chit sittin' in da way of da world class Calatrava and should be blow torched. Nothing more than 6 I beams stuck together and an embarrassment with no artistic significance, hey?
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I get that. I just don't see Marquette applying that same standard — it's cheap, functional and temporary, who cares how it looks — to any other highly visible campus facilities.
Maybe instead of an expensive new student dormitory that fits in with the campus architectural style, we should just line up a bunch of temporary trailers along Wisconsin Avenue during the fall and spring semesters. We don't need them in the summer when students aren't in session, right?
Marquette has clearly made architecture an important part of its brand — a balance of functionality and aesthetics. In that regard, this "solution" for the soccer field is a failure. Just my opinion.
"Other highly visible" since when has valley fields been highly visible? I barely noticed it in college and completely forget it exists now. If this means more students can use it I am all for it.
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Heard the earlier renditions looked lumpier.
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Wonder if club sports can use it as well. I only played club lax for freshman and sophomore year before focusing on my boxing but I remember the nightmare of shoveling the field
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I know next to nothing about Marquette's soccer and lacrosse programs. But this sure sounds like poor planning to me.
The soccer stadium goes back to 1993, and recently completed a multi-million dollar renovation. So after 20 years and perhaps $20+ million invested, MU just now realized the need for a year-round facility? There's something called a needs assessment that's supposed to help identify current and future priorities before you start a building project.
But hey — if the soccer and lacrosse teams are happy, more power to them. They won't be concerned in the least what I think about their dome.
I think its because Lacrosse and soccer have both been getting bigger and bigger in the last couple years at Marquette (The former much more) and they are now looking at ways to improve it and maybe make it profitable?
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I know next to nothing about Marquette's soccer and lacrosse programs. But this sure sounds like poor planning to me.
The soccer stadium goes back to 1993, and recently completed a multi-million dollar renovation. So after 20 years and perhaps $20+ million invested, MU just now realized the need for a year-round facility? There's something called a needs assessment that's supposed to help identify current and future priorities before you start a building project.
But hey — if the soccer and lacrosse teams are happy, more power to them. They won't be concerned in the least what I think about their dome.
We came close to losing our well respected and successful lacrosse coach to Princeton. This is one of the facilities we needed to put in place to sign him to an extension. It is only a temporary thing and soccer, lacrosse and track will be able to benefit from it as well as club sports and the general student population.
All the Power 5 schools have facilities like this, so I think it is a big plus for us overall. It is going to take some time to get the money raised for the permanent field house.
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Wonder if club sports can use it as well. I only played club lax for freshman and sophomore year before focusing on my boxing but I remember the nightmare of shoveling the field
Sounds like it.
The seasonal dome, which will provide practice and training facilities for intercollegiate athletes as well as club and intramural participants
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That thing is a piece of chit sittin' in da way of da world class Calatrava and should be blow torched. Nothing more than 6 I beams stuck together and an embarrassment with no artistic significance, hey?
Wrong.
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I have seen this done at other schools. It is actually pretty cool.
http://athletics.augsburg.edu/sports/2009/11/4/auggiedome.aspx/
I agree with this analysis.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111245128/4898974-7891394323-stayp.jpg)
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Here .. much more aesthetically pleasing!
(http://i.imgur.com/HS8rxoG.jpg)
that looks much better, just hope it doesn't offend anyone ;) think poto is good with that?
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this would be a bummer though, EyN'a?
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Wrong.
'Spose ya dug the blue denim shirt dat used ta be displayed at Mitchell too, hey?
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'Spose ya dug the blue denim shirt dat used ta be displayed at Mitchell too, hey?
I did.
The lack of public art in Milwaukee is appalling for a city of its size. But when people are more concerned about cost than worth, that's what you get.
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I did.
The lack of public art in Milwaukee is appalling for a city of its size. But when people are more concerned about cost than worth, that's what you get.
Apparently you've never been to Art's.
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'Spose ya dug the blue denim shirt dat used ta be displayed at Mitchell too, hey?
"dug" it? He11, yes, blue denim is a staple in my wardrobe.
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Here .. much more aesthetically pleasing!
(http://i.imgur.com/HS8rxoG.jpg)
+1
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Anybody else hate seeing MU and dome in the same sentence.
Other than MU crushes Dome(rs)
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Apparently you've never been to Art's.
Classy establishment that. Granted, nothing compares to Rickys on State.
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Classy establishment that. Granted, nothing compares to Rickys on State.
Hey, hey.
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Hey, hey.
i'm sure you only heard this was/is the popular call out when ricky rings the bell...at least that's i've heard anyway ;) something about doubling your bubble?
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IIRC, while I was in school, it was advertised as 'Hey, hey Rickie's on State'. I was unaware of the back story.
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Does this mean the sports complex being planned dead?
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Does this mean the sports complex being planned dead?
Absolutely not.
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Does this mean the sports complex being planned dead?
The article specifically says this is going to be used while we complete planning/fundraising for the new athletic research/performance complex.
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The article specifically says this is going to be used while we complete planning/fundraising for the new athletic research/performance complex.
Which is going to take longer than expected, heard from a vertical construction GC that's taken quite the hit lately.
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The much awaited, highly anticipated Benny B Thunderdome!!!
Well... you'll definitely hear the thunder outside in that thing. Looks more like a thunder bubble. A great big soft bubble.
Anyone else see this thing and start thinking how much you'd like a SuperChexx for Christmas?
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Well... you'll definitely hear the thunder outside in that thing. Looks more like a thunder bubble. A great big soft bubble.
Anyone else see this thing and start thinking how much you'd like a SuperChexx for Christmas?
USSR v. USA?
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USSR v. USA?
Damn straight.
I think the original had "USSR" on the cabinet and scoreboard, but I think the figures had CCCP on their jerseys. That's the one I want... the full commie version.
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Cool! Finally getting a football team and joining the B1G hey!
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Y'all complaining about what it looks like......
You know that the picture in the original post isn't even a picture of Valley Fields with the bubble mocked up into it, right?
It's literally a "kinda like this" picture of a bubble somewhere else with a MU added to it.
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I would add — beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
From the opinions I've heard and read, I'm among a minority who appreciate The Calling (the big orange I-beam sculpture at the east end of Wisconsin Avenue) as a work of art. To me, its bright color and form suggest an abstract sunrise — which, along with its dynamic angles and rugged construction, serves as an optimistic symbol for Milwaukee.
Others think it's just plain ugly. Or a giant waste of money. Or both.
the orange sun is probably the dumbest piece of outdoor art i have ever seen. not to mention it blocks the calatrava, which is among the best.
and your arguments about the dome are similarly misguided.
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the orange sun is probably the dumbest piece of outdoor art i have ever seen. not to mention it blocks the calatrava, which is among the best.
and your arguments about the dome are similarly misguided.
Look at that nice, juicy piece of bait. So tempting. It's just sitting there, almost irresistible, waiting to be taken...
Sorry, not this time.
I prefer to focus and comment on things I care about like Marquette basketball (which is what this forum is intended for IIRC).
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at first glance, it looks like the old roof-topper from the now extinct I94 in the Kenosha area business. a'ina.