Oso planning to go pro
I like data driven facts. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebrons-finals-record-isnt-really-a-disappointment/He has under delivered in two, the fact that they even got to the Finals in three others is staggering and they also managed to beat the only 73 win team in history. He gets points deducted for losing ones he shouldn't have, he earns bonus points for bringing teams to the Finals that had no business being there even if they ended up losing. That's the one disappointment I had in Michael. the 6-0 is amazing, but he was not able in my opinion to ever get a team that wasn't supposed to make it to the Finals, thus never having the ability to risk ultimately losing in a final. Lebron suffers from a bit of Buffalo Bills complex where they lost 4 straight SB's but had no business being in one of them and was gifted an appearance in another, yet they got there anyway which is a great accomplishment to begin with.
I’m fine not sharing the opinion that LBJ does absolutely nothing wrong. I’m sure his 5 turnovers per game and his attempt to be hidden on Javale McGhee and Jordan Bell leading to their ability to get wide open rim attacks.I’m glad some Scoopers are great with LBJ’s defense. My guess is the Warriors share that opinion.
Ah hyperbole. The defense of the weak.
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/06/04/monday-hot-clicks-nba-finals-warriors-cavaliers-lebron-james-jr-smith-bench-videoSeems like a super fun guy to have leading the locker room.
My question is where was the coach during all that?
Looks like a guy realizing he should've taken the shot instead of passing.
It’s pretty common for coaches to meet off to the side first and then address the team. The problem is the only words Coach LeBron had to say was yelling at Coach Lue after freezing out the two players who obviously feel worse than any of the other players before burying his head in his tissue the rest of the “huddle” before walkinThen yell at yourself not at your coach.
It’s pretty common for coaches to meet off to the side first and then address the team. The problem is the only words Coach LeBron had to say was yelling at Coach Lue after freezing out the two players who obviously feel worse than any of the other players before burying his head in his tissue the rest of the “huddle” before walking back to the court.Then yell at yourself not at your coach.
Yep. MJ wouldn't have passed.
The problem is the only words Coach LeBron had to say was yelling at Coach Lue after freezing out the two players who obviously feel worse than any of the other players before burying his head in his tissue the rest of the “huddle” before walking back to the court.Then yell at yourself not at your coach.
I like LeBron a lot and think he's firmly in place as the second-best player ever but that was far from being his finest moment and it's more ammo for LeBron haters.
LeBron asked Lue if Cleveland had any timeouts left and was sickened to learn that they did. Let's be real though. That's something he should have known. I like LeBron a lot and think he's firmly in place as the second-best player ever but that was far from being his finest moment and it's more ammo for LeBron haters.
Where were ANY of the Cavs during all that? They might as well have gone home before OT. Someone, I don't care if it's the 14th man in street clothes, someone needed to tell JR Smith and George Hill that the team has their back and there's still ball to be played. Korver clapped a few times and may have said something but literally any coach or player needed to sit next to those guys and show some leadership. I honestly think they were all waiting for LeBron to do it but when it became clear that he wasn't going to, someone else needed to step up. LeBron asked Lue if Cleveland had any timeouts left and was sickened to learn that they did. Let's be real though. That's something he should have known. I like LeBron a lot and think he's firmly in place as the second-best player ever but that was far from being his finest moment and it's more ammo for LeBron haters.
I agree; absolutely not his finest moment. Pretty bad, actually. A very unfortunate reaction to to what was one of the worst moments of his career.Also, unless people are a lot better lip readers than me, I'm not going to assume that LeBron didn't know they had a time out. Clearly, he's asking about time outs, but I certainly can't distinguish between "did we have a time out?" and "didn't we have a time out?" Of course, that doesn't answer why he didn't call it himself.
According to the article that you linked to in this post, Jordan's Bulls won 2 titles that they weren't "supposed" to win. Additionally, LeBron had the huge upset of GS in the Finals but also lost to Dallas when his team had a 63% chance of winning. Jordan didn't pull off a significant upset in the Finals but his team never lost as heavy favorites either. It's interesting that we've reached the point of nit-picking that we're now holding it against great players for being on great teams
Curious. Do you think the Cavs win that series if Curry was healthy. He was probably at 80%. Scored 5 ppg less in the playoffs while shooting 7 percentage points lower in his eFG%. Far less mobility that limited his ability to attack/get open, or guard Kyrie.
It's a pointless question. Do you think the Warriors would have won in '15 if the Cavs had Kyrie and Love?I mean, the Cavs' starting lineup in the series featured Delly, Mozgov and Shumpert. Blecch.
Who knows? Probably not...but the Warriors with Curry at 80% were still favored by 8 points in Game 5 and by 5 points in Game 7.
No idea. They did have Kyrie for 1 game (they still lost). But people often talk about how James would have had another championship ('15) if not for injuries. Why is it not ok to ponder about a healthy Curry? It isn't a massive upset with an injured Curry.Honestly, it is why I don't look as much at championships (or upsets), as a barometer of greatness for a player. Too many variables playing a role, besides the player. Valid point. In retrospect, I wonder how much of that was influenced still by their regular season, when Curry was healthy.
No idea. They did have Kyrie for 1 game (they still lost). But people often talk about how James would have had another championship ('15) if not for injuries. Why is it not ok to ponder about a healthy Curry? It isn't a massive upset with an injured Curry.
The weird part was he did try to call a timeout. I have to think he only does that if he knows for sure they have one. Otherwise, why risk losing the game on a technical?
Curry wasn't all full strength but he still played all 7 games and averaged 35 minutes per. His shooting percentages were down in the series but they were still better than Kobe's in the 2010 Finals and he was named MVP. It wasn't like Curry was a complete non-factor or sitting in street clothes on the bench.
Ponder away, but when you're willing to toss aside the Cavs' '16 title because Curry was possibly "80 percent" healthy, then it's only fair to toss aside the Warriors' '15 title because Love and Kyrie were 0 percent healthy. Seems inconsistent to imply that the Cavs won in 2016 because Curry wasn't perfectly healthy, but argue that you have "no idea" whether the absence of Love and Irving impacted the 2015 result. You'd have to be basketball stupid to believe the absence of two all-stars didn't significantly hurt the Cavs' chances."Massive" is a relative term, but clearly Vegas viewed the Cavs' win in 2016 as an upset.And no, Vegas was absolutely not setting lines in the last three games of the Finals based on what happened a couple of months prior in the regular season.