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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2019, 03:21:13 AM

Title: Howard’s wrist
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2019, 03:21:13 AM
I get we’re all pissed. However the game is now over and nothing will change the outcome. My big concern is Howard’s wrist. This injury seems to be really bothering him. I think it also explains his slump. Has the team issued any comment on what the injury is?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2019, 08:33:53 AM
No one else is real concerned?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2019, 08:37:14 AM
Team issued a statement last night and said it was a sprain.

And he played the second half.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2019, 08:37:45 AM
It has been discussed extensively in other threads.    Some believe that it, along with his groin injury, are the main reasons for his late season slump.     Some think that his wrist and groin are merely excuses and then expand on everything else they believe to be wrong with him.   
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 16, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
No one else is real concerned?
I am. Just get rest for next week.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2019, 09:17:25 AM
No one here is talking how McKnight’s chop down on his wrist caused Markus to exit. This is a reason a team doesn’t publicize injuries.
Title: Howard's hand/wrist injury?
Post by: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2019, 04:03:45 PM
Do we have any specifics as to what type of injury he has? ligament/cartilage tear? Bone injury?
Title: Re: Howard's hand/wrist injury?
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2019, 04:08:17 PM
I read sprain somewhere in a thread
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Cheeks on March 16, 2019, 04:36:33 PM
I get we’re all pissed. However the game is now over and nothing will change the outcome. My big concern is Howard’s wrist. This injury seems to be really bothering him. I think it also explains his slump. Has the team issued any comment on what the injury is?

Been concerned since the second it happened and stated so, with a lot of responses here that it was no big deal and he would be just fine.   
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
Sprain? very vague response. That could mean anything. Where's the MRI?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2019, 06:00:51 PM
Sprain? very vague response. That could mean anything. Where's the MRI?

I know the school can’t release medical records. Sadly I feel like Markus is like a small running back in the NFL. Has great games, but just isn’t built to withstand all hits he faces through out the season.

With that said I hope we see the 2 PGs they are sitting out this year, bring the ball up the court next year. Hopefully that will help Markus weather the season better than this season.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
The school can release records with Markus's consent and they could easily get that if they wanted it. Heck, Markus has been very open about mental health issues, so he isn't gonna freak out if people see his wrist MRIs.

But MU is being vague because they aren't required to release specifics, and don't want to give future opponents anything more to use for game-planning.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2019, 06:19:45 PM
The school can release records with Markus's consent and they could easily get that if they wanted it. Heck, Markus has been very open about mental health issues, so he isn't gonna freak out if people see his wrist MRIs.

But MU is being vague because they aren't required to release specifics, and don't want to give future opponents anything more to use for game-planning.

And because jobbers like McKnight know where to employ the Hai Karate chop.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: avid1010 on March 16, 2019, 06:24:41 PM
It has been discussed extensively in other threads.    Some believe that it, along with his groin injury, are the main reasons for his late season slump.     Some think that his wrist and groin are merely excuses and then expand on everything else they believe to be wrong with him.   
It's just as likely they are correct as anyone else.  What injury did we blame the slump early in the year on?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2019, 06:27:36 PM
It's just as likely they are correct as anyone else.  What injury did we blame the slump early in the year on?

Greg's thumb.... ;)
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: avid1010 on March 16, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
I also struggle to believe a bad wrist effects a release on a FT...he was just off.  If he could have shot a few less shots...had a solid assist to turnover ratio...we win the game.  Have to have an impact when you arent playing well.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: murara1994 on March 16, 2019, 06:46:50 PM
I would also wonder if the knock on the head early in game affected his performance. Even if not concusses, out of sorts?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2019, 07:03:00 PM
Markus may have a lingering groin injury, and his non-shooting wrist certainly seems to be in bad shape.  That said, I don’t believe either of these maladies would cause him to miss a game even if the stakes weren’t as high as they’ve been down the stretch.  Despite being banged up, since the Nova game he’s scored 33 against Creighton, 30 against the Johnnies, and took 25 shots vs. Georgetown, all while playing max minutes.  If we bow out in the first round of the Tournament, the only people using injuries as an excuse will be here on Scoop.

Markus is a tough kid and he’s been my favorite player to watch since Wade.  Let’s hope his shots fall next weekend, because he’s certainly going to take his share.  As he should.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Nukem2 on March 16, 2019, 07:09:56 PM
Markus may have a lingering groin injury, and his non-shooting wrist certainly seems to be in bad shape.  That said, I don’t believe either of these maladies would cause him to miss a game even if the stakes weren’t as high as they’ve been down the stretch.  Despite being banged up, since the Nova game he’s scored 33 against Creighton, 30 against the Johnnies, and took 25 shots vs. Georgetown, all while playing max minutes.  If we bow out in the first round of the Tournament, the only people using injuries as an excuse will be here on Scoop.

Markus is a tough kid and he’s been my favorite player to watch since Wade.  Let’s hope his shots fall next weekend, because he’s certainly going to take his share.  As he should.
Won’t have BE refs.  All that bumping will be called in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2019, 07:30:33 PM
Won’t have BE refs.  All that bumping will be called in the NCAAs.

It was called in the last five minutes last night.  Markus got to the line pretty much every time he drove.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Markusquette on March 16, 2019, 07:43:39 PM
Markus is so banged up. He's tough. The guy takes a beating every game and still came out of the tunnel. I completely believe he'd be more effective even a bit closer to 90-100%.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: We R Final Four on March 16, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
Markus may have a lingering groin injury, and his non-shooting wrist certainly seems to be in bad shape.  That said, I don’t believe either of these maladies would cause him to miss a game even if the stakes weren’t as high as they’ve been down the stretch.  Despite being banged up, since the Nova game he’s scored 33 against Creighton, 30 against the Johnnies, and took 25 shots vs. Georgetown, all while playing max minutes.  If we bow out in the first round of the Tournament, the only people using injuries as an excuse will be here on Scoop.

Markus is a tough kid and he’s been my favorite player to watch since Wade.  Let’s hope his shots fall next weekend, because he’s certainly going to take his share.  As he should.
This guy gets it.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 16, 2019, 10:55:56 PM
the footage on FS1 when he was heading back to the locker room almost looked like he was pushing on the back of his hand above the wrist and on the pinky side.  An outer hand sprain?  Maybe DPT can clarify what I'm tryin' to say.  Or it could be more in the wrist with pain shooting down his hand.  (Holiday Inn Express, and stuff).
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2019, 11:13:47 PM
the footage on FS1 when he was heading back to the locker room almost looked like he was pushing on the back of his hand above the wrist and on the pinky side.  An outer hand sprain?  Maybe DPT can clarify what I'm tryin' to say.  Or it could be more in the wrist with pain shooting down his hand.  (Holiday Inn Express, and stuff).

Now that you mention it, I thought Fox’s decision to show that was a little much.  That was a private moment between the athlete and the trainer.  There’s such a thing as too much access.  I don’t think dramatizing a person’s anguish, especially an amateur athlete’s, makes for particularly good television.  Physical anguish, that is.  Showing a kid crying in the stands because their favorite team is losing?  That’s incredibly mean, but always hilarious.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: pbiflyer on March 17, 2019, 12:20:24 AM
Now that you mention it, I thought Fox’s decision to show that was a little much.  That was a private moment between the athlete and the trainer.  There’s such a thing as too much access.  I don’t think dramatizing a person’s anguish, especially an amateur athlete’s, makes for particularly good television.  Physical anguish, that is.  Showing a kid crying in the stands because their favorite team is losing?  That’s incredibly mean, but always hilarious.

This. As stunned they showed it.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 17, 2019, 12:22:18 AM
Now that you mention it, I thought Fox’s decision to show that was a little much.  That was a private moment between the athlete and the trainer.  There’s such a thing as too much access.  I don’t think dramatizing a person’s anguish, especially an amateur athlete’s, makes for particularly good television.  Physical anguish, that is.  Showing a kid crying in the standstotal d-bag crying on the bench because their favorite team is losinghe thought his punk ass action got him ejected?  That’s incredibly mean, but always hilarious.

FIFY.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 17, 2019, 09:13:33 AM
I think he was just off on his free throw shooting, and shooting in general.  If his wrist was affecting his free throws, Wojo could have easily had Sam shoot the technicals.  And with Markus missing as many shots and free throws as he did, I was surprised Sammy didn’t get the call to shoot some of the later tech shots.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2019, 01:48:07 PM
Marquette's Howard: Wrist 'all good' for tourney https://es.pn/2Y9M7me
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Cheeks on March 20, 2019, 01:49:15 PM
Marquette's Howard: Wrist 'all good' for tourney https://es.pn/2Y9M7me

He has to say that, I will bet dollars to donuts when this thing is over we are going to find out how truly hurt he has been, but not until the season is over.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: TheGym on March 20, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
Did anyone go to the open practice today?  If so, how did Marcus look?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Bocephys on March 20, 2019, 01:58:46 PM
He has to say that, I will bet dollars to donuts when this thing is over we are going to find out how truly hurt he has been, but not until the season is over.

I wonder if playing him is dumb and/or dangerous?
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Cheeks on March 20, 2019, 02:06:53 PM
I wonder if playing him is dumb and/or dangerous?

I don't think we would be doing that nor would he accept that.  If you mean risking further injury.  Timing has everything to do with it.  A few weeks ago, interesting question.   :-X
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Its DJOver on March 20, 2019, 02:10:46 PM
Marquette's Howard: Wrist 'all good' for tourney https://es.pn/2Y9M7me

Full news conference.  Markus and Ja know each other from the CPIII camp.  Other than that, pretty boilerplate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoxVMRb8gMM
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: vogue65 on March 20, 2019, 02:12:12 PM
Won’t have BE refs.  All that bumping will be called in the NCAAs.

Big East play has never been helpful in the NCAA tournament.  However, the exception proves the rule, Villanova has found a way.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: NickelDimer on March 20, 2019, 02:34:46 PM
Full news conference.  Markus and Ja know each other from the CPIII camp.  Other than that, pretty boilerplate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoxVMRb8gMM
Awesome thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 20, 2019, 03:09:49 PM
He has to say that, I will bet dollars to donuts when this thing is over we are going to find out how truly hurt he has been, but not until the season is over.

No offense, but your record on "other shoes dropping later" is abysmal.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 20, 2019, 03:30:09 PM
Big East play has never been helpful in the NCAA tournament.  However, the exception proves the rule, Villanova has found a way.

2011, UConn, Kemba Walker.   BOOM!!
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 20, 2019, 03:31:29 PM
Marquette's Howard: Wrist 'all good' for tourney https://es.pn/2Y9M7me

So why would he take precautions with an uninjured wrist? Just wondering.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 20, 2019, 03:32:38 PM
He has to say that, I will bet dollars to donuts when this thing is over we are going to find out how truly hurt he has been, but not until the season is over.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out it is hurt worse.  From the taping the last number of games to the tunnel shot at MSG.  To his shooting %. 
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: warriorchick on March 20, 2019, 03:41:42 PM
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out it is hurt worse.  From the taping the last number of games to the tunnel shot at MSG.  To his shooting %.


FWIW, it wasn't wrapped on Sunday during the selection show.  I would think that if it was hurt really bad, they would keep something on it even when he wasn't playing.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2019, 03:48:14 PM
Marquette's Howard: Wrist 'all good' for tourney https://es.pn/2Y9M7me

Any true Warrior would say exactly this, even if it's still bothering him some. Hoping that it's mostly true!

As for the couple posters talking about this being why it's best to keep these things secret ... I get what you're saying but Markus was grabbing his wrist and shaking his hand constantly, and the wrist was pretty heavily taped. A person would have to be blind not to see his wrist was hurt.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 20, 2019, 03:53:18 PM
So why would he take precautions with an uninjured wrist? Just wondering.

He said it was " all good" not uninjured. Months after a slipped disc I took precautions with everything still.

Related to wrists, wife sprained her wrist in a bike crash at about 20 mph and was pretty functional by day 8. So who knows.

I just hope he is like 80-90%.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 20, 2019, 03:54:54 PM
As for the couple posters talking about this being why it's best to keep these things secret ... I get what you're saying but Markus was grabbing his wrist and shaking his hand constantly, and the wrist was pretty heavily taped. A person would have to be blind not to see his wrist was hurt.

True at this point.  I did hear some blow back on Fox for showing him during his examination in the tunnel. 

That said, SH (McKnight) did chop down on it.
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 20, 2019, 04:06:36 PM
True at this point.  I did hear some blow back on Fox for showing him during his examination in the tunnel. 

That said, SH (McKnight) did chop down on it.

Of course he did, the team is full of scumbags, a reflection of the coach
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 20, 2019, 04:08:44 PM

FWIW, it wasn't wrapped on Sunday during the selection show.  I would think that if it was hurt really bad, they would keep something on it even when he wasn't playing.

He didn’t look taped up in the photos from practice today either
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Cheeks on March 20, 2019, 04:27:00 PM
No offense, but your record on "other shoes dropping later" is abysmal.

LOL.  It's been pretty good actually, just because you didn't get the one thing you desperately want doesn't change the overall.  By the way, he gone...those shoes dropped long ago. 

Don't confuse me with #donedeal. 
Title: Re: Howard’s wrist
Post by: Ardmore Mug on March 20, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
Ya'll  sound like he was back here in Milw just sitting around....  No, he was back here getting the proper Physical Therapy and treatments he needed, daily, hourly, as needed.  Not like us regular people not having the resources or the funds to get the same treatment...  RELAX ! ! !   8-)