Morrow to Marquette

[We R Final Four]

Talent always wins.  The Cavs never win the championship without LJ.  The Pack never wins a SB without ARodg.  You don't give that up ever.

Unless, of course, the Pack has Favre.....or Starr.

[muguru]

Absolutely talent wins out...you don't not take Morrow because of worries about roster issues. He isn't some end of the bench guy..probably at least in my opinion one of the top 5 available players this offseason.

[rocket surgeon]

Absolutely talent wins out...you don't not take Morrow because of worries about roster issues. He isn't some end of the bench guy..probably at least in my opinion one of the top 5 available players this offseason.

and if all goes according to plan, he fills one of our needs very very well

[cheese ball chaser]

My point is that if Howard goes down, we are going to be in trouble no matter what.....it's not a position thing, it's a talent thing. By your logic we should (potentially) not have a more talented front court player so we can have a back-up PG in case Howard goes down. Roster balance is important but not at the cost of talent acquisition. I'd rather maximize the talent on the roster and assume whoever the back-up is plus the rest of the roster talent is sufficient to minimize the impact of Howard's loss...because the loss is his talent not that he's a PG per se.

Thought experiment. Let's assume Howard is going to be injured. Do we want to trade say, Theo John, for a back-up that is better than Elliot/Haanif but far less talented than Howard? If fictional back-up is better talent than Theo John, maybe otherwise what's the point?

I actually agree with you. I'm of the opinion that you should stack the roster with as much talent as possible. Positioning will work itself out- Wojo will figure it out

[Dr. Blackheart]

I agree.  I specifically said the CPS scene for a reason.

I know. This has been a burr on my side about Chicago. Perception is that CPS is Chicago but there is much more. Buzz was on these Catholic kids. Ulis was begging to come here. Pryor was at Evanston before ND but Buzz was on him but the SLU admin decided no as they didn't like the grades or JUCO. Losing Matthews may have been the last straw for Buzz.  I think Buzz looked hard at O'Mara but passed. Benford was making inroads in the CPS.

MU needs Chicago to win. Wojo has been hesitant.

[Dr. Blackheart]

What ever do you mean?  People talk in cryptic language so is it wrong of me to jump to conclusions?

Why can't people just be clear about what they are talking about?

Conversely, why do people jump to <wrong> conclusions when posters are being cryptic?

[Dr. Blackheart]

I know. This has been a burr on my side about Chicago. Perception is that CPS is Chicago but there is much more. Buzz was on these Catholic kids. Ulis was begging to come here. Pryor was at Evanston before ND but Buzz was on him but the SLU admin decided no as they didn't like the grades or JUCO. Losing Matthews may have been the last straw for Buzz.  I think Buzz looked hard at O'Mara but passed. Benford was making inroads in the CPS.

MU needs Chicago to win. Wojo has been hesitant.

I will just add Brunson. Saw that kid in 6th grade and he was a stud. I think Buzz always thought he was a Philly lean (good guess with Daddy) but MU should have played. Too much demurring.

[muguru]

I know. This has been a burr on my side about Chicago. Perception is that CPS is Chicago but there is much more. Buzz was on these Catholic kids. Ulis was begging to come here. Pryor was at Evanston before ND but Buzz was on him but the SLU admin decided no as they didn't like the grades or JUCO. Losing Matthews may have been the last straw for Buzz.  I think Buzz looked hard at O'Mara but passed. Benford was making inroads in the CPS.

MU needs Chicago to win. Wojo has been hesitant.

Thing is..Wojo went into Chicago with Duke..so he should have connections there. I'm with you..Chicago hasnt seemed to be as big of a priority for MU ever since Crean left and I'm not sure why..

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Absolutely talent wins out...you don't not take Morrow because of worries about roster issues. He isn't some end of the bench guy..probably at least in my opinion one of the top 5 available players this offseason.

Eh....maybe top 10 traditional transfer. Top 20-25 including grad transfers. But it was pretty good transfer class this year.

[muguru]

Eh....maybe top 10 traditional transfer. Top 20-25 including grad transfers. But it was pretty good transfer class this year.

Sorry..but you're wrong on this one TAMU..maybe you look at it from a "fit" perspective..and if you're in the "MU needs another PG" camp..then you dont see the need with Morrow. The ONLY two grad transfers i thought were clearly better than Morrow are Egor and Cam Johnson. Thats it. I'd have to look at the trad transfer list again to make a judgment on that one..but no one seems to understand how good Morrow is.

He'd have been the second leading rebounder in the BE last year. If no one wants that..they're crazy.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Eh....maybe top 10 traditional transfer. Top 20-25 including grad transfers. But it was pretty good transfer class this year.

I find this highly unlikely as he was ranked around 50 in his class out of high school and almost averaged a double double last season.

[GGGG]

I know. This has been a burr on my side about Chicago. Perception is that CPS is Chicago but there is much more. Buzz was on these Catholic kids. Ulis was begging to come here. Pryor was at Evanston before ND but Buzz was on him but the SLU admin decided no as they didn't like the grades or JUCO. Losing Matthews may have been the last straw for Buzz.  I think Buzz looked hard at O'Mara but passed. Benford was making inroads in the CPS.

MU needs Chicago to win. Wojo has been hesitant.

Marrquette does not "need" Chicago to win. It would be helpful, but Buzz's run of three S16s included one bit player from Chicago. Not a necessity. 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I find this highly unlikely as he was ranked around 50 in his class out of high school and almost averaged a double double last season.

Wrong. ESPN had Morrow at 62, Rivals 105, and Scout was an unranked 3 star. So one service, which in my opinion is the worst of the three, had him maybe kinda somewhat close to 50. The rest, not even close.

[The Lens]

Just bc I want a PG doesn't mean I don't want Morrow or Joey.  I want them all.  What I'm saying is we still need a PG.  For all I care you can slap Sacar with a kielbasa sausage and send him back to Scandanavia; I really don't care how it happens, I just think this team needs PG. 

[real chili 83]

So why did Morrow go to Aksarben to begin with?

[Boozemon Barro]

So why did Morrow go to Aksarben to begin with?

His parents are Nebraska alums and Nebraska was coming off a NCAA tournament appearance.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Wrong. ESPN had Morrow at 62, Rivals 105, and Scout was an unranked 3 star. So one service, which in my opinion is the worst of the three, had him maybe kinda somewhat close to 50. The rest, not even close.

Lol you're a peach. 

[WarriorPride68]

Lol you're a peach.

Additionally 247 had Morrow at 116.

Morrow can play though. Be interesting to see how his game develops to play some wing on occasion

[Nukem2]

Additionally 247 had Morrow at 116.

Morrow can play though. Be interesting to see how his game develops to play some wing on occasion

The RSCI composite ranking had him at 85.

[bilsu]

So why did Morrow go to Aksarben to begin with?

Maybe, he thought it was in Michigan.

[WarriorPride68]

The RSCI composite ranking had him at 85.

Nukem, I am unaware of the RSCI, can you explain?

I was just going off this from 247: http://247sports.com/Player/Ed-Morrow-33911?Institution=10187

112 national comp & 116 by 247

[GGGG]

Nukem, I am unaware of the RSCI, can you explain?

"Recruiting Services Consensus Index"  It is a composite ranking based on several of the services that rank prospects. 

[Dawson Rental]

Additionally 247 had Morrow at 116.

Morrow can play though. Be interesting to see how his game develops to play some wing on occasion

Most on this board feel that MU has finally found the answer to the lack of an effective inside presence who can defend and rebound and you want to move him to the wing?

#hausersonthebench

[Dr. Blackheart]

Marrquette does not "need" Chicago to win. It would be helpful, but Buzz's run of three S16s included one bit player from Chicago. Not a necessity.

Eight* out of the last 10 NCAA champions had Chicago players. Bo made his run with Chicago players (Frank and Brust). Al's championship teams were made with Chicago (and NYC) talent. Crean's run was driven by Chicago talent. So, when you say it is not a "need" or "necessity", I simply do not agree, whether back in the day or today. And this excuse (not yours but one I keep hearing) about the CPS swamp for not recruiting Chicago is just that, an excuse. Glad to have Morrow.

*Sherron Collins, Frasor, Scheyer, Anthony Davis, Blackshear, Boatright, Parker/Okafor, Brunson.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Sorry..but you're wrong on this one TAMU..maybe you look at it from a "fit" perspective..and if you're in the "MU needs another PG" camp..then you dont see the need with Morrow. The ONLY two grad transfers i thought were clearly better than Morrow are Egor and Cam Johnson. Thats it. I'd have to look at the trad transfer list again to make a judgment on that one..but no one seems to understand how good Morrow is.

He'd have been the second leading rebounder in the BE last year. If no one wants that..they're crazy.

I agree with you here. Seems people here don't know how good Morrow can be if healthy. Unfortunately, he hasn't been healthy very much in his college career. The year off should help.

This guy is much better than his numbers would indicate. We got a good one.