[Paint Touches] Playing Hauser was dumb and dangerous

[Goose]

Buzz sure knew message boards and blogs. I had several email exchanges with him over posts on Scoop. He knew what was out there, probably too much so.

[cheese ball chaser]

I enjoy it.    When I have more time, I will listen to the rest.    But that was cool     

'misinformed.......   uninformed....  or has an agenda

'Sam's a warrior'

Everyone gets an opinion.... even if they are dumb and dangerous.   

Wojo is aware of the criticism.

"not sure if I'm allowed to say that"

[MU1980]

Wojo is amazing for this. Love it.

Totally agree.  What Paint touches implied was extremely classless because they were questioning the integrity of many people, not just Wojo, and there was no basis for their attack.  Happy to see his response and paint touches should be embarrassed. 

[Benny B]

I went searching for a GIF capturing the essence of "dumb and dangerous."  In that effort, I was unsuccessful, but in the process, my mad Googling skillz did lead me to something quite educational.


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mootdanga


You're welcome.

[GOO]

I don't blame Wojo for being upset.  It calls his integrity into question along with the medical staff.  That means another thing he has to explain to recruits and those looking for a reasons of doubt.  Wojo cares about his players, doctors take an oath and use ethical reasoning about their patients and they have to deal with an article from someone that isn't in the medical profession, didn't interview Sam Hauser, and wildly speculated on what the decision was.

Yes, Wojo should be upset.   A chance for the publication and author to admit they screwed up.

This is dead on.  For those of us with professional careers, where trust and perception matter, it can be really frustrating having someone question one's integrity based upon bad info or bad speculation.  He probably deals with enough made up stuff by other coach's without other speculation.  If Wojo is upset, he should be, and he should be in order to stand up for his program, his doctors, his staff, his trainers, etc.  Part of his job, even if it isn't a major newspaper article, is to represent and in this case defend the program. 

[Goose]

I do not think it was dumb or dangerous to play Sam, just think an extra month to get ready for next season made more sense.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Wojo not responding would have been dumb and dangerous.

[skianth16]

This is so wrong. Coaches are aware of everything and anything. As well they should be.

There's a difference between being aware of something and responding to it in an interview or on some other platform. No offense to the PT crew here, but they're just amateur bloggers, fans that care enough to spend some time researching and writing about the team. I'm all for a coach or a player giving a friendly nod to these kind of pages, but to call them out is rare for a coach. I mean, he called the guys lazy for crying out loud. There are better ways to handle it than he did. He was super defensive, practically yelling for the full discussion about Sam.

I still think many of the people who think Wojo is the man for sticking it to the PT guys would balk at any other coach criticizing a blog post written by a fan.

[MU82]

There's a difference between being aware of something and responding to it in an interview or on some other platform. No offense to the PT crew here, but they're just amateur bloggers, fans that care enough to spend some time researching and writing about the team. I'm all for a coach or a player giving a friendly nod to these kind of pages, but to call them out is rare for a coach. I mean, he called the guys lazy for crying out loud. There are better ways to handle it than he did. He was super defensive, practically yelling for the full discussion about Sam.

I still think many of the people who think Wojo is the man for sticking it to the PT guys would balk at any other coach criticizing a blog post written by a fan.

I called Wojo out for his response to a perfectly reasonable question by a student reporter during a press conference.

I applaud Wojo for vocally sticking up for the integrity of his coaching staff (including himself), his medical staff and his trainers.

[skianth16]

Wojo not responding would have been dumb and dangerous.

Realistically, do you think any recruits read that story? Do you think any donor read it or was swayed by it? Do you really think that a blog post, written by a fan, ultimately will have any impact on the MU basketball program? We, as fans, eat this stuff up. Anything written about the team makes for a fun read, but this isn't a cover story in the JS. It's a blog post. An opinion piece. This is being blown out of proportion.

[mujivitz06]

There's a difference between being aware of something and responding to it in an interview or on some other platform. No offense to the PT crew here, but they're just amateur bloggers, fans that care enough to spend some time researching and writing about the team. I'm all for a coach or a player giving a friendly nod to these kind of pages, but to call them out is rare for a coach. I mean, he called the guys lazy for crying out loud. There are better ways to handle it than he did. He was super defensive, practically yelling for the full discussion about Sam.

I still think many of the people who think Wojo is the man for sticking it to the PT guys would balk at any other coach criticizing a blog post written by a fan.

You may see PT thay way, but a throng of MU fans look at them as expert sources on the program. So if people start believing something because they write it, and WOJO thinks it's a problem, he has to stick up for his side of the story.

Yes it's rare for them to call out a blog like this. It's also rare for them to blast so caustically a health decision. So this is the rare example.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I called Wojo out for his response to a perfectly reasonable question by a student reporter during a press conference.

I applaud Wojo for vocally sticking up for the integrity of his coaching staff (including himself), his medical staff and his trainers.

+1

[skianth16]

I called Wojo out for his response to a perfectly reasonable question by a student reporter during a press conference.

I applaud Wojo for vocally sticking up for the integrity of his coaching staff (including himself), his medical staff and his trainers.

He should stick up for his staff and the doctors. But it should be done in a better way. I think his talking points were good. I think mentioning that the Hauser family and Sam were at the top of his priority list is important to note. But I think the angry, defensive tone and specifically calling out the PT post is over the top and is beneath a head coach of a major program.

If he would have taken the approach of saying that he knows some people may be concerned that Sam playing could cause further injury but the docs gave the OK, that's much different to me. I think Calipari does a great job of this when it comes to addressing criticism. Acknowledging the intent of the criticism - wanting Sam to be healthy - and then explaining the decision making comes across much better.

[Its DJOver]

Realistically, do you think any recruits read that story? Do you think any donor read it or was swayed by it? Do you really think that a blog post, written by a fan, ultimately will have any impact on the MU basketball program? We, as fans, eat this stuff up. Anything written about the team makes for a fun read, but this isn't a cover story in the JS. It's a blog post. An opinion piece. This is being blown out of proportion.

To be fair, Homer did ask specifically about Sam's hip.  If they had gone the entire hour without talking about Sam's injury and surgery I don't think Wojo brings it up. 

To answer your question, no, I don't think it will have any impact on recruiting, and any impact on the program as a whole would be marginal at best, but Wojo standing up for his staff when they don't really have much of a platform to stand up for themselves is the right thing to do.  This is the off season, mountains are made of mole hills, its what happens.

[Its DJOver]

He should stick up for his staff and the doctors. But it should be done in a better way. I think his talking points were good. I think mentioning that the Hauser family and Sam were at the top of his priority list is important to note. But I think the angry, defensive tone and specifically calling out the PT post is over the top and is beneath a head coach of a major program.

If he would have taken the approach of saying that he knows some people may be concerned that Sam playing could cause further injury but the docs gave the OK, that's much different to me. I think Calipari does a great job of this when it comes to addressing criticism. Acknowledging the intent of the criticism - wanting Sam to be healthy - and then explaining the decision making comes across much better.

He comes off pretty classless when he won't shake the opposing teams hands.  Even Crean would do the blowby

[GGGG]

He should stick up for his staff and the doctors. But it should be done in a better way. I think his talking points were good. I think mentioning that the Hauser family and Sam were at the top of his priority list is important to note. But I think the angry, defensive tone and specifically calling out the PT post is over the top and is beneath a head coach of a major program.

If he would have taken the approach of saying that he knows some people may be concerned that Sam playing could cause further injury but the docs gave the OK, that's much different to me. I think Calipari does a great job of this when it comes to addressing criticism. Acknowledging the intent of the criticism - wanting Sam to be healthy - and then explaining the decision making comes across much better.

You're wrong.  His tone was not defensive in the least.  He laid out what Marquette did in a very straight-forward manner.  And you are also completely wrong about Paint Touches being some sort of fringe site.  A significant portion of the fanbase pays attention to it.

And frankly I am disappointed that PT is now retweeting it and trolling for more page views.  If that's what the site is going to become...f*ck it...I'll find my Marquette news elsewhere.

[GGGG]

To be fair, Homer did ask specifically about Sam's hip.  If they had gone the entire hour without talking about Sam's injury and surgery I don't think Wojo brings it up. 

It was pretty obvious to me that Homer was asked to bring up Sam's hip. 

[Its DJOver]

It was pretty obvious to me that Homer was asked to bring up Sam's hip. 

My point was that Wojo didn't just bring it up out of the blue just so he could blast PT. If for whatever reason Homer wasn't asked to ask about it and they spend the entire hour talking about what AR means to the program and the growth of the Freshman and other stuff that you could talk about in a end of season review Wojo probably wouldn't have mentioned Sam's hip at all.

[mu_hilltopper]

You're wrong.  His tone was not defensive in the least.  He laid out what Marquette did in a very straight-forward manner.  And you are also completely wrong about Paint Touches being some sort of fringe site.  A significant portion of the fanbase pays attention to it.

And frankly I am disappointed that PT is now retweeting it and trolling for more page views.  If that's what the site is going to become...f*ck it...I'll find my Marquette news elsewhere.

+1 .. although I do think Wojo was (properly) being defensive.

Paint Touches should either remove their post, or add an addendum:  OOPS, NEVER MIND, we were talking out of our asses.

[mujivitz06]

He should stick up for his staff and the doctors. But it should be done in a better way. I think his talking points were good. I think mentioning that the Hauser family and Sam were at the top of his priority list is important to note. But I think the angry, defensive tone and specifically calling out the PT post is over the top and is beneath a head coach of a major program.

If he would have taken the approach of saying that he knows some people may be concerned that Sam playing could cause further injury but the docs gave the OK, that's much different to me. I think Calipari does a great job of this when it comes to addressing criticism. Acknowledging the intent of the criticism - wanting Sam to be healthy - and then explaining the decision making comes across much better.

I think his indignant tone is much better. I can relate to it and empathize.

[GGGG]

My point was that Wojo didn't just bring it up out of the blue just so he could blast PT. If for whatever reason Homer wasn't asked to ask about it and they spend the entire hour talking about what AR means to the program and the growth of the Freshman and other stuff that you could talk about in a end of season review Wojo probably wouldn't have mentioned Sam's hip at all.

My point is that Wojo wanted that question asked just so he could blast the PT article.  So Homer set it up for him.

And so I actually don't agree with you.  Had Homer for whatever reason, not asked the question, Wojo would have brought it up.

[skianth16]

You're wrong.  His tone was not defensive in the least.  He laid out what Marquette did in a very straight-forward manner.  And you are also completely wrong about Paint Touches being some sort of fringe site.  A significant portion of the fanbase pays attention to it.

And frankly I am disappointed that PT is now retweeting it and trolling for more page views.  If that's what the site is going to become...f*ck it...I'll find my Marquette news elsewhere.

You may be tone deaf. He was basically yelling. You could tell he was mad.

As far as the reach of PT, the tweet with the story in it has 2 retweets, 10 likes, and 7 comments. Not exactly breaking the internet. If the fanbase consisted of 12 people, maybe this could be considered significant. Since the fanbase is a tad bigger than 12, I think it's fair to say that this will have no impact whatsoever.

[skianth16]

My point is that Wojo wanted that question asked just so he could blast the PT article.  So Homer set it up for him.

And so I actually don't agree with you.  Had Homer for whatever reason, not asked the question, Wojo would have brought it up.

I really, really, really, hope this isn't the case. If Wojo set this up to go off on a fan who wrote a blog post, he's even more thin skinned than I thought. Addressing Sam's health is one thing, attacking a fan is another thing entirely.

[GGGG]

You may be tone deaf. He was basically yelling. You could tell he was mad. 

I didn't say he wasn't mad.  I said he wasn't defensive.

As far as the reach of PT, the tweet with the story in it has 2 retweets, 10 likes, and 7 comments. Not exactly breaking the internet. If the fanbase consisted of 12 people, maybe this could be considered significant. Since the fanbase is a tad bigger than 12, I think it's fair to say that this will have no impact whatsoever.

Again, you don't realize the impact.  PT has a pretty significant following among the fanbase.

But keep being wrong.  You're wrong a lot.  You should be used to it.

[Its DJOver]

My point is that Wojo wanted that question asked just so he could blast the PT article.  So Homer set it up for him.

And so I actually don't agree with you.  Had Homer for whatever reason, not asked the question, Wojo would have brought it up.

Wojo probably knew the question was going to be asked so we'll never know, but I don't think that the second that Wojo read the article he immediately was thinking of ways to blast PT.  If Wojo doesn't have a weekly interview with Homer I don't think he takes to twitter or some other medium just to blast PT, he wouldn't have had that kind of agenda.