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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on Today at 12:29:53 PM »
How do Protestant Churches handle it?  I'd venture to guess that the average Protestant congregation is smaller than the average Catholic parish, so they have fewer members supporting their pastor.

Also,  I doubt there would be a  rule that the priest's spouse couldn't have a career.  It wouldn't be any different than a regular married couple where one has a good job and the other person has a job that doesn't pay much, or is a volunteer position.


I can tell you that in many protestant churches the spouse usually works and often carries the benefits.

But I think many protestant churches are governed differently. Churches are their own entity and not "owned" by the larger church. For instance, in the Evangelical Lutheran church, the church is legally separate entity, governed by a Church Council, and it makes donations to the greater Church. So the central Church doesn't have near the resources that the Catholic Church has. Those churches can (and have) left the church to associate with another Lutheran church body in a manner consistent with its governing documents.

I don't know if that makes a difference but I think its a different model.
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The Superbar / Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Last post by Plaque Lives Matter! on Today at 12:19:13 PM »
Some jokes from the live-streamed (on Netflix) roast of Tom Brady:

Belichick: “People have said it — Tom and I butted heads a lot. And in a way that was true. But it was hard to butt heads with Tom — because he was so far up Alex Guerrero’s ass.”

Julian Edelman: “Alex Guerrero is the snake oil salesman that turned Tom into a complete weirdo.”

Drew Bledsoe: “A lot of people assume I have a lot of animosity toward Tom Brady. So I’m here tonight in front of millions of people to tell you — they’re correct.”

Bledsoe: “There were rumors that coach Belichick was going to be here tonight. Turns out he has some time on his hands. At least when I got fired, somebody else wanted me.”

Edelman said Belichick used to tell the team in meetings that Foxboro High players would've done a better job, leading to ... "Now Foxboro High is the only job offer you have. Do your job? More like need a job, coach."

Randy Moss: “Before I got to the New England Patriots, we heard about Spygate. Then after I left, we heard about Deflategate. So I only got one question for you, Tom: ’Why the f— didn’t we cheat when I was there?! I wanted to cheat, too. My kids always ask me, ‘Daddy, why does everyone have a ring but you?’ You know how hard it is to look your kids in the eyes and say, ‘They just don’t trust me enough to cheat’?”

Gronkowski on the similarities between Brady and Belichick: “You’re both hard asses that hate fun. You both live and breathe football. Neither of you are married anymore. You’re both even divorced from football — and both of you take full credit for the dynasty.”

Comedian Jeff Ross: “Tom was drafted 199th in the NFL draft. He sat there for days waiting and waiting and was finally picked in the sixth round when Bill Belichick’s dog stepped on the keyboard by accident.”

Ross on what Brady told Robert Kraft: "I'm the best decision your organization has ever made. Would you like a massage?" (A perturbed Brady got up from his seat and told Ross: "Don't say that sh!t again.")

Comedian Nikki Glaser: “You have seven rings — well, eight now that Giselle gave hers back.”

Brady said the NFL could've saved the $20M it spent investigating Deflategate because "I would’ve just told you I f—-ing did it.”

Brady on why he wants to buy a piece of the Raiders: “I’m tired of owning just the Colts and the Bills.”

Kraft: "Tom, good luck buying the Raiders. They did your favorite thing for you already — they got rid of Jimmy Garoppolo.”

Brady to Belichick: “I’ve been out of the game for a minute, so I’m curious - how many Super Bowls have you won since I left? … When I go to the Indy 500, I don’t ask, ‘Hey, who gassed up your car.’”


Kinda strange the one thing Brady got visibly mad about was the massage joke.
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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by warriorchick on Today at 12:08:41 PM »
The downside of allowing priests to marry/have families is how do you support them. The Catholic Church itself is extraordinarily wealthy because of what it owns, but parishes by and large are not. Now you're asking congregations not only to support a couple of single male priests living together, but families in individual homes. That's going to be a pretty substantial financial burden that doesn't exist today.

How do Protestant Churches handle it?  I'd venture to guess that the average Protestant congregation is smaller than the average Catholic parish, so they have fewer members supporting their pastor.

Also,  I doubt there would be a  rule that the priest's spouse couldn't have a career.  It wouldn't be any different than a regular married couple where one has a good job and the other person has a job that doesn't pay much, or is a volunteer position.
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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by Dickthedribbler on Today at 12:08:15 PM »
Over the past several years I have become more involved with my Catholic faith than any time in my lifetime. Born and raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools from K-5 until my last day MU, but never was overly active in my faith. A ton of reasons caused me not to be active and most were good excuses in my mind for not being active. I have few regrets on why I was not involved and chalked up to not being ready to fully commit.

That said, I have worked extremely hard to separate my feelings of the leadership and my belief in God. To be honest, virtually every aspect of the leadership makes me sick and sad. I struggle to understand their behavior and the handling of the mess they have made. Furthermore, I cannot find myself praying for them and supporting them financially. I can live to be 100 years old and will never understand the mess they made and how it happened.

Sadly, while I understand my belief is a personal relationship I have with God, I do struggle not feeling part of an overall community. I go pray everyday, try and go to Mass every week, but feel like it just God and me. I am very happy that I have truly have God in my life, I feel like a bigger part is missing in my life.

I guess to sum it up, I am beyond disgusted with what has happened with the leadership and the lives that been ruined. I cannot understand how someone in a trusted position can be so evil, especially representing God's word. I am proud on my faith and will continue to try and build on it, but the leadership will never be trusted again by me.

GOOSE-------I had to read this post 3 times, because it struck me as something I could have written about myself .

God bless you , man.
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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by Pakuni on Today at 12:03:42 PM »
I'm certainly not trying to create a direct parallel nor classify priests in the same way expressly, but the dynamic has always reminded me of the sexual dynamics of long term prisoners.  Otherwise straight individuals begin engaging in homosexual activity due to a lack of outlet for normal sexual urges and behavior and its replaced with opportunity and power dynamics to create alternative, if not deviant, behavior.  Same could be seen with priests, but with even more shame, confusion, and misplaced urges and outcomes.

Not a rhetorical question, but is there evidence to suggest that a significant number of heterosexual priests are engaging in homosexual activity with consenting adult males? Other priests?
Assuming we're not talking about priest-on-priest action, why would there be an easier outlet for homosexual behavior? And would the ease be so substantially greater that it would lead a straight guy into gay behavior?
 
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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by JWags85 on Today at 11:49:40 AM »
My take on the celibacy issue is that it is not a direct link to pedophilia, but it creates a self-selection problem in the priesthood.  The vow of celibacy creates, from day one, a preoccupation with and unrealistic expectation of spurning one's sexual predilictions.  That makes it a potential solution for all kinds of men who are otherwise sexually isolated, confused, and/or ashamed.  The priesthood throws all of those men together in a culture of secrecy and shame without any psychiatric or practical support and then inserts them into positions of absolute trust in schools and communities.  If I were TRYING to create an environment of sexual abuse and betrayal of trust, I don't know if I could design it better.

I'm certainly not trying to create a direct parallel nor classify priests in the same way expressly, but the dynamic has always reminded me of the sexual dynamics of long term prisoners.  Otherwise straight individuals begin engaging in homosexual activity due to a lack of outlet for normal sexual urges and behavior and its replaced with opportunity and power dynamics to create alternative, if not deviant, behavior.  Same could be seen with priests, but with even more shame, confusion, and misplaced urges and outcomes.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Last post by Uncle Rico on Today at 11:36:46 AM »
At least Baylor's bag dropping is no longer illegal.

Have to believe Drew has moved onto extortion as a tool in his bag.  Wouldn’t put anything past him.
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The Superbar / Re: Archdiocese of New Orleans
« Last post by Jockey on Today at 11:36:27 AM »
I was unaware there's a link between celibacy and pedophilia

I do think there is a ink between celibacy and gay priests, though.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/24
« Last post by wadesworld on Today at 11:36:18 AM »
His shot is certainly unorthodox.  Looks like he works out with Haliburton.
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