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The Superbar / Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Last post by DegenerateDish on Today at 09:01:13 AM »
As their stadium plan is blowing up in their face, I’m sure it’s just a pure coincidence (after years of adamantly saying “no way”) that the Bears agreed to be on Hard Knocks.

Bears can’t get political favors in Illinois, so they’re looking for favors from the league and their fellow owners.

I wish I could bet money on the forthcoming Kevin Warren puff piece feature on Hard Knocks.
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I was triggered by the word "stubborn" in Papi's post in describing Shaka. In its context, I read it as a criticism of Shaka, and I believe there have been others here who used the same word to describe their frustration with Shaka's refusal to go to the portal. In fairness to Papi, he had valid points regarding the team overall, but that does not mean that I am in full agreement with him.

So, why did "stubborn" trigger me? Because there is little, if any, acknowledgement by many "portal fans" that we had no transfers out, that a high-level portal player would be a starter-leaving a player who thought his time to shine had come sitting on the bench- and leaving the rest of the team nervous about being "portalled over" in the future, and also leaving prospects like Miletic having serious doubts about Shaka's words vs. his actions.

Although there would be no way to prove it undisputedly at season's end, I think a high-level transfer would have made the team stronger, but only for this coming season. The consequences of adding the transfer are stated in the above paragraph. Accepting the possibility (or likelihood if you please) of a step down (hopefully only a slight one) this season is inherent] in Shaka's long-term strategy and MO. Shaka is planning for the upcoming and future seasons with his system. Perhaps it is time to revive the "five years to judge" mantra.

I will shortly be heading out of town for the day, but will leave by stirring the pot on the portal question:

Do you think Shaka would have gone to the portal if Kam left, or would he stay with his no-portal strategy?

I agree with all of this, and don't know the answer to the last question. But I do think the loyalty we are seeing from players is not in small part due to the loyalty reciprocated. But if we had some transfer levels that were normal, say that three players departed and we were adding the equivalent of Joplin, Gold, and Lowery in the portal, the people who think we don't take enough transfers would be over the moon.

Do I see guys like Pop Isaacs going to Creighton, Tarris Reid going to UConn, and John Hugley going to Xavier and think "boy, those would be nice on our roster"? Sure. But I'm not at all convinced that 1-2 years of any of them is going to be better than the 3-4 years we're getting out of guys like Tre Norman, Al Amadou, or Damarius Owens who might decide to go elsewhere had we taken those transfers, or the potential long-term culture damage that would do to the recruitment of a Ian Miletic or Adrian Stevens who are being recruited in large part based on relationships and culture.
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I was triggered by the word "stubborn" in Papi's post in describing Shaka. In its context, I read it as a criticism of Shaka, and I believe there have been others here who used the same word to describe their frustration with Shaka's refusal to go to the portal. In fairness to Papi, he had valid points regarding the team overall, but that does not mean that I am in full agreement with him.

So, why did "stubborn" trigger me? Because there is little, if any, acknowledgement by many "portal fans" that we had no transfers out, that a high-level portal player would be a starter-leaving a player who thought his time to shine had come sitting on the bench- and leaving the rest of the team nervous about being "portalled over" in the future, and also leaving prospects like Miletic having serious doubts about Shaka's words vs. his actions.

Although there would be no way to prove it undisputedly at season's end, I think a high-level transfer would have made the team stronger, but only for this coming season. The consequences of adding the transfer are stated in the above paragraph. Accepting the possibility (or likelihood if you please) of a step down (hopefully only a slight one) this season is inherent] in Shaka's long-term strategy and MO. Shaka is planning for the upcoming and future seasons with his system. Perhaps it is time to revive the "five years to judge" mantra.

I will shortly be heading out of town for the day, but will leave by stirring the pot on the portal question:

Do you think Shaka would have gone to the portal if Kam left, or would he stay with his no-portal strategy? 

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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Tyler Kolek and Oso Ighodaro NBA Combine
« Last post by Uncle Rico on Today at 08:03:11 AM »
50% of NBA players spend time in the G league.   I suspect, regardless of where they are drafted, TKo and Oso will spend time there.

They should have come back
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Tyler Kolek and Oso Ighodaro NBA Combine
« Last post by tower912 on Today at 05:50:24 AM »
50% of NBA players spend time in the G league.   I suspect, regardless of where they are drafted, TKo and Oso will spend time there. 
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The Superbar / Re: 2023-24 NBA Thread
« Last post by tower912 on Today at 05:45:24 AM »
Dallas v Boston.   OMax v Sam
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The Superbar / Re: 2023-24 NBA Thread
« Last post by forgetful on May 30, 2024, 09:53:19 PM »
The worst stripe shirts in history couldn’t save the Wolves.

Doncic largely single handedly put it out of reach in the 1st quarter. Then Kyrie sealed it all up with an amazing 2nd quarter.
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Y'all are 95% agreeing, 5% disagreeing.

Lies!!  It’s 96%, 4%!!!!
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The Superbar / Re: 2023-24 NBA Thread
« Last post by MU82 on May 30, 2024, 09:48:09 PM »
I have to admit that I was skeptical of Dallas being able to win with Luka and Kyrie in the lineup together.

Good for the Mavs. They definitely have a shot against Boston.
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