Transfer portal

[MUDPT]

Jeff Borzello

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Purdue junior Nojel Eastern has entered the transfer portal, sources told ESPN. Started 62 games the past two seasons, averaged 4.9 points and 2.7 assists last season.

Would have been the perfect piece next to Markus the last two years. Not sure about going forward.

[muguru]

Jeff Borzello

@jeffborzello


Stony Brook's Elijah Olaniyi is now in the transfer portal, sources told ESPN -- but not as a graduate transfer. Averaged 18.0 points and 6.5 rebounds last season, earned first-team All-America East honors.

[Tha Hound]

Jeff Borzello

@jeffborzello
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Purdue junior Nojel Eastern has entered the transfer portal, sources told ESPN. Started 62 games the past two seasons, averaged 4.9 points and 2.7 assists last season.

Would take him in a heartbeat and if I recall correctly we were in on him at some point

[Tha Hound]

Jeff Borzello

@jeffborzello


Stony Brook's Elijah Olaniyi is now in the transfer portal, sources told ESPN -- but not as a graduate transfer. Averaged 18.0 points and 6.5 rebounds last season, earned first-team All-America East honors.

Would take him in a heartbeat as well

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Talk about a guy who's never lived up to his potential...

Yup. His game was never going to translate well to college. Said three years ago he was going to be a mediocre college player.

Curious as to where he ends up. Maybe a lower tier major conference team like DePaul or a high mid major?

[Jockey]

Talk about a guy who's never lived up to his potential...

Agree. Just a poor man’s Koby McEwen 

Just a bench guy - I’d rather see Elliot with any minutes he might get.

[muguru]

Jeff Borzello
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Stony Brook guard Makale Foreman will graduate and transfer. Averaged 15.6 points and made 104 3-pointers last season.

[Tha Hound]

Agree. Just a poor man’s Koby McEwen 

Just a bench guy - I’d rather see Elliot with any minutes he might get.

Uhh what? Their game is nothing alike. Not to mention Eastern's advanced numbers are better, and lets not get started on their defense.

[Uncle Rico]

Agree. Just a poor man’s Koby McEwen 

Just a bench guy - I’d rather see Elliot with any minutes he might get.

Yikes.  He really regressed last year.  What happened to him?  Woof.  Curious what happened in general in West Lafayette that both him and Haarms bolted

[MUfan12]

I'd be more interested had Perez not committed.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Would take him in a heartbeat and if I recall correctly we were in on him at some point

And play him where? Kids big strong athlete with almost no skill

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Uhh what? Their game is nothing alike. Not to mention Eastern's advanced numbers are better, and lets not get started on their defense.

We are comparing people to Koby now? How about derrick wilson or jake thomas, wtf!?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Yikes.  He really regressed last year.  What happened to him?  Woof.  Curious what happened in general in West Lafayette that both him and Haarms bolted

Wouldn’t be surprised if Eastern’s mom had some influence. She’s kinda psychotic and has unrealistic expectations.

[MUDPT]

Eastern was one of the best defenders in the Big Ten. Good PG Skills, not much else on offense. Like I said, would have matched up perfectly with Markus (see Carsen Edwards, last year). Don’t see it now.

[Jockey]

Uhh what? Their game is nothing alike. Not to mention Eastern's advanced numbers are better, and lets not get started on their defense.

I agree Hound. I should have clearly stated that I was referring in terms of how much they would contribute to the team rather than comparing their styles.

The one thing I like about his game is his toughness.

[moomoo]

Jeff Borzello
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Stony Brook guard Makale Foreman will graduate and transfer. Averaged 15.6 points and made 104 3-pointers last season.

This guy can score in bunches, fearless, tough.  He would open up some lanes for Garcia. 

Check him out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1gMBJqi8Hw

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'd be surprised if MU contacted any more transfers. I think that scholarship is Mane's until he says he's not coming.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I'd be surprised if MU contacted any more transfers. I think that scholarship is Mane's until he says he's not coming.

At some point you gotta move on.  I don't think saving it for Mane is a bad play, but at some point you stop holding a spot for a guy that seems awfully committed to be playing professionally. 

I think you also have to game plan for the real possibility that Carton doesn't get a waiver, or worse never plays for Marquette without a waiver. 

[muguru]

At some point you gotta move on.  I don't think saving it for Mane is a bad play, but at some point you stop holding a spot for a guy that seems awfully committed to be playing professionally. 

I think you also have to game plan for the real possibility that Carton doesn't get a waiver, or worse never plays for Marquette without a waiver.

Exactly, and this is why I have wanted all along one more really good player that's eligible this year. Obviously none are going to be the quality of DJ, but if you can get a guy like Foreman, you take him A. Because it's somewhat of a "hedge" on Carton not getting a waiver and B. Even if Carton does get a waiver, I still think they need one more good player this year to be a legit NCAA tournament team.

My stance on Mane is that he's likely to stay in the draft regardless. Furthermore, he has had plenty of time to commit to MU if that's really what he wanted to do. I'm pretty sure the Coaches know whether he's worth waiting for or not, and we may just get our answer if we see them mentioned with other transfers, particularly Foreman from Stony Brook, as he is a grad transfer.

[Uncle Rico]

Exactly, and this is why I have wanted all along one more really good player that's eligible this year. Obviously none are going to be the quality of DJ, but if you can get a guy like Foreman, you take him A. Because it's somewhat of a "hedge" on Carton not getting a waiver and B. Even if Carton does get a waiver, I still think they need one more good player this year to be a legit NCAA tournament team.

My stance on Mane is that he's likely to stay in the draft regardless. Furthermore, he has had plenty of time to commit to MU if that's really what he wanted to do. I'm pretty sure the Coaches know whether he's worth waiting for or not, and we may just get our answer if we see them mentioned with other transfers, particularly Foreman from Stony Brook, as he is a grad transfer.

I agree with this

[brewcity77]

At some point you gotta move on.  I don't think saving it for Mane is a bad play, but at some point you stop holding a spot for a guy that seems awfully committed to be playing professionally.

To do what with the scholarship though? Do you call Mane and say “we’re tired of your NBA pursuit, if you want to play in college do it elsewhere.”

There’s no one worth spending the scholarship on and potentially a five-star guard on the other end if they hold it open. If the alternative is giving it to someone we don’t need or saving it for Mane or just banking if he doesn’t come, I’d save it.

If a Mac Etienne type reclassified then maybe you have a reason to move on, otherwise moving on only hurts you.

[muguru]

To do what with the scholarship though? Do you call Mane and say “we’re tired of your NBA pursuit, if you want to play in college do it elsewhere.”

There’s no one worth spending the scholarship on and potentially a five-star guard on the other end if they hold it open. If the alternative is giving it to someone we don’t need or saving it for Mane or just banking if he doesn’t come, I’d save it.

If a Mac Etienne type reclassified then maybe you have a reason to move on, otherwise moving on only hurts you.

You can always make room for Mane if he wants to come and you don't have a scholarship available, and I suspect MU would do just that if that scenario played out. You have to get as much talent as you possibly can. Plus though it's doubtful, there is possibly a chance Bailey goes pro overseas or wherever. You can always find scholarships for talented players.

[brewcity77]

You can always make room for Mane if he wants to come and you don't have a scholarship available, and I suspect MU would do just that if that scenario played out. You have to get as much talent as you possibly can. Plus though it's doubtful, there is possibly a chance Bailey goes pro overseas or wherever. You can always find scholarships for talented players.

If someone of Mane’s ability comes along, then sure. I don’t anticipate anyone like that suddenly popping up on the radar. You don’t fill a scholarship just to fill it.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

You can always make room for Mane if he wants to come and you don't have a scholarship available, and I suspect MU would do just that if that scenario played out. You have to get as much talent as you possibly can. Plus though it's doubtful, there is possibly a chance Bailey goes pro overseas or wherever. You can always find scholarships for talented players.

Agree

[Its DJOver]

I know this is a hot button issue, and I'm not really trying to take a side here. 

Regarding the "free market" I feel bad for players when their coaches leave without warning and think that when that occurs the players should be able to transfer without sitting.  At the same time, you can't not feel bad for someone in Geno Ford's position.  He's staying loyal to his employer, he's not testing the free market, and yet his team just got gutted because of the free market. 

Now maybe there were forces in play that he could have controlled better (i.e. a hausergate situation), and I also realize that he gets paid more than most posters here, but when your job security depends on the actions of 18-22 year olds, and they have the option to do this, you can certainly find faults going both ways with the system. 

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1260295389737082881

Would this become a more common occurrence once the new transfer rules kick in?  Probably.  Would it occur frequently enough for there to be a legitimate push to re-instate the year in residency rule? IDK.  Since it would most likely only negatively effect mid-majors, would any movement every gain enough support to actually cause a change?  Probably not.
 
Again, not trying to take an official position here, I don't think there is "one" right answer to this problem, just pointing out the other side of the coin to all the "coaches can test the free market and leave whenever they want, leaving the student high and dry" argument.