Transfer portal

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Offers and conditions of that offer are two way streets.  Just because he chose to go back to BGSU doesn't mean he had other great options to choose from.  He would have been a grad transfer but I wouldn't be surprised if he heard a lot of you will need to win your spot.  We aren't going to guarantee a starting job for you.  Without getting to visit the school and play with the team, lots of doubts could arise.  Is he much better than Symir?  Being the best player on a bad team doesn't mean you would be able to replace the bench player on a good team.  With BGSU he knew what he was getting.

The fact that he went to none of the final schools on his list and returned tells me he wasn't going to get what he was hoping for at any of them.

Yes.  He is better than Symir.

[marqfan22]

That's simply not going to happen, that ship has pretty much sailed, people need to just accept that unfortunately. It sucks, but here we are.

I’m a little behind, but what was said to make Mane a low probability?

[Aircraftcarrier]

I’m a little behind, but what was said to make Mane a low probability?

Wojo

[Uncle Rico]

I’m a little behind, but what was said to make Mane a low probability?

Wojo

Source?

[Aircraftcarrier]

His coaching.Need any others

[Uncle Rico]

His coaching.Need any others

Yes

[Aircraftcarrier]

Michigan St and Tom Izzo

[MU82]

His coaching.Need any others

So what you're saying is that Garcia, Lewis and Oso were too stoopid to know that Wojo would be career-killers? Nice.

[panda]

So what you're saying is that Garcia, Lewis and Oso were too stoopid to know that Wojo would be career-killers? Nice.

I think it’s a fair assessment. The freshman committed before the season and these transfers are evaluating the state of the program after all of the dust has settled.

It’s a fluid situation.

[dad's couch]

Facts? No. You guys make thinks up or say things as facts. I'll give you a few examples.
1) Saying the NCAA will approve a new transfer rule that will make all transfers able to play next year. The rule will pass but not until the following season
2) Toxic environment around the program. After the Housers left only 3 people have left the program. Two were assistant coaches who got head coaching jobs and Ed who saw his playing time dwindle next to nothing. Meanwhile all the other BE programs except Villanova have had at least 1 player transfer in the same time period.
3) Mane cooled on Wojo because of coaching. The kid is looking at all his options. Show me a credible source that says we are no longer in the running.
4) Carton is going to play next year. Again. Show me a credible source that said that. In fact show me any credible source that has commented on his recruitment over the last 3 weeks. There isn't anything because he's kept everything to himself.

[Aircraftcarrier]

dad's couch.Show me some facts that Wojo can coach.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think people feel that Carton will be granted a waiver because players in similar situations have received waivers in the past.  I think at worst he would have to sit first semester.

[dad's couch]

dad's couch.Show me some facts that Wojo can coach.

He's a D1 head coach that has gotten to the NCAA tournament 3 of the last 4 years. His teams have been ranked inside the top 25 the last 2 seasons. His teams have beaten Villlanova who are coached by the AP's Coach of the Decade. He was contacted by VT in their coaching search last year so other people in the know value him.

I'm not getting is a pissing match because you hate Wojo. Fine. But quit making statements that you guys say are facts when they are opinions.  Or keep doing it and get laughed at.

[Aircraftcarrier]

Well I guess you are happy getting to the NCAA in 3 of 6 years and getting embarrassed in both games.It would have been three if the games would have been played this year.Marquette can do better.Much better.

[Its DJOver]

Well I guess you are happy getting to the NCAA in 3 of 6 years and getting embarrassed in both games.It would have been three if the games would have been played this year.Marquette can do better.Much better.

Another opinion presented as fact.  It's fine to have opinions.  It's fine to have negative opinions about Wojo.  You start to lose credibility when you present them as facts.

[muguru]

I wonder if MU might consider reaching out to Jamal Bienemy.. . Or maybe Jalen Carey. Idk, the pickings are so slim now..I'm just throwing crap against a wall and see if it sticks.

[WarriorPride68]

His teams have beaten Villlanova who are coached by the AP's Coach of the Decade.

are we really flexing that Wojo beat an conference opponent?

[Aircraftcarrier]

Hey DJ. The facts are his results.No denying those.His teams have folded like accordions the last two years.Had an all American guard and no NCAA wins.Lost 2 starters to transfer.How many more years should MU wait?

[Its DJOver]

Hey DJ. The facts are his results.No denying those.His teams have folded like accordions the last two years.Had an all American guard and no NCAA wins.Lost 2 starters to transfer.How many more years should MU wait?

That depends on a couple of variables.  What he does in the future.  What his buyout is.  The University's economic situation.  How he/his players/his staff presents themselves off the court.  To a lesser extent how his recruiting classes are. 

Whether you like it or not, there is more at play here than just the number of games won in the NCAA tournament.  If that doesn't sit well with you, you could pull your donation, not buy tickets (assuming there are even games to attend), write to the BOT with your frustrations, or decide to support another program, but I can guarantee that no number of posts on here will get him fired. 

I understand the frustration (both basketball and otherwise) right now, and I respect the need to vent.  Stay safe and healthy.

[Elonsmusk]

Offers and conditions of that offer are two way streets.  Just because he chose to go back to BGSU doesn't mean he had other great options to choose from.  He would have been a grad transfer but I wouldn't be surprised if he heard a lot of you will need to win your spot.  We aren't going to guarantee a starting job for you.  Without getting to visit the school and play with the team, lots of doubts could arise.  Is he much better than Symir?  Being the best player on a bad team doesn't mean you would be able to replace the bench player on a good team.  With BGSU he knew what he was getting.

The fact that he went to none of the final schools on his list and returned tells me he wasn't going to get what he was hoping for at any of them.

Wow.  I'd expect more from a Gus Macker champ.  Or did you forget to use the teal font color? 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Dad, you make too much sense for this blog. You do realize most of these posters are Democrats, yes?

Dumb.

[WarriorDad]

Well I guess you are happy getting to the NCAA in 3 of 6 years and getting embarrassed in both games.It would have been three if the games would have been played this year.Marquette can do better.Much better.

Why did you change 3 of the last 4 to 3 of the last 6?  Both are accurate, but one version implies you are digging far back for an outcome to justify your position.

[WarriorDad]

Dad, you make too much sense for this blog. You do realize most of these posters are Democrats, yes?

Ridiculous and should be removed

[Aircraftcarrier]

Warrior Dad.Fine 3 of 4.Whoopee do.He has not won an NCAA game in 6 years at a basketball rich tradition school.His record is below .500 in Big East Play and his teams fizzle out at end of year.I am glad you are happy with these results

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I wonder if MU might consider reaching out to Jamal Bienemy.. . Or maybe Jalen Carey. Idk, the pickings are so slim now..I'm just throwing crap against a wall and see if it sticks.

Pretty sure MU was in contact with Jalen Carey early in the process.