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Title: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 17, 2023, 05:34:35 AM
If you are going to the BET you might not get in.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2023/01/16/facial-recognition-mom-kicked-out-rcmh-n2618277
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 17, 2023, 07:10:42 AM
If you are going to the BET you might not get in.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2023/01/16/facial-recognition-mom-kicked-out-rcmh-n2618277

I'd read your article but it's behind a pay wall that says "we need your support to fight the left and the liberal media".

Just a tip since I know you've posted your concerns about media bias in the past... if a source isn't openly saying that they are there to"fight" one side of the political spectrum, it's probably a biased source
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 17, 2023, 07:19:26 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/madison-square-garden-face-scan-1234650989/amp/

Here's an article not behind a paywall. Sounds like a private company doing something legal but incredibly petty. Thought the mom comparing it to Elon Musks behavior on Twitter to be apt.  I hope those kicked out were at least refunded.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 17, 2023, 07:19:56 AM
Here is a better source. It's ridiculous, but not surprising, what Dolan is doing.

https://www.amny.com/news/pols-activists-james-dolan-msg-facial-recognition/
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2023, 08:02:51 AM
Look at the bright side. Hurley and Miller will be denied entry during the BET. And probably most UCONN fans as well.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: tower912 on January 17, 2023, 08:04:19 AM
Need to calibrate it to keep out the dentists.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 17, 2023, 08:07:26 AM
I'd read your article but it's behind a pay wall that says "we need your support to fight the left and the liberal media".

Just a tip since I know you've posted your concerns about media bias in the past... if a source isn't openly saying that they are there to"fight" one side of the political spectrum, it's probably a biased source

Ah yes, apologize for it behind a paywall. I just thought the policy of using facial recognition at least for me is rather creepy whether by the government or a private enterprise. There is no denying that Townhall is a conservative source and not take everything they report as gospel. In fact there are virtually no news sources that are completely neutral. Thanks for the other links.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2023, 08:22:11 AM
Anybody have photos of nolonger and willie that we can send to MSG?
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 17, 2023, 10:24:34 AM
They've talked about this for several months on WFAN.  Apparently Dolan is pretty petty and wants to keep people out of MSG who heavily criticize him. 
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: JWags85 on January 17, 2023, 10:58:50 AM
They've talked about this for several months on WFAN.  Apparently Dolan is pretty petty and wants to keep people out of MSG who heavily criticize him.

Shout out Charles Oakley
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: dgies9156 on January 17, 2023, 11:05:44 AM
Gang, facial recognition software is a blessing. Clear uses it at airports to identify travelers. On average, I get through MCO security in about six minutes because of it. Even EWR, most of the time, is about 10 minutes.

If it is used properly, it should save time and energy getting into a stadium.

Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Jockey on January 17, 2023, 11:47:20 AM


If it is used properly, it should save time and energy getting into a stadium.

That is the key statement. "If".

We know there are people that will abuse any technology for their own benefit.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 17, 2023, 12:10:59 PM
Gang, facial recognition software is a blessing. Clear uses it at airports to identify travelers. On average, I get through MCO security in about six minutes because of it. Even EWR, most of the time, is about 10 minutes.

If it is used properly, it should save time and energy getting into a stadium.

Clear is available in many stadiums/arenas now, including MSG.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: MU82 on January 17, 2023, 12:24:59 PM
Clear is available in many stadiums/arenas now, including MSG.

The place the Kraken play has it. Only time I've used it so far.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2023, 06:05:36 PM
Guess MSG wasn't using facial recognition in March of '21.

Ewing kept getting stopped by the staff and asked for ID.

Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Herman Cain on January 17, 2023, 06:27:45 PM
 This concept is nothing new in New York . For decades many Co-Op boards have banned attorneys from living in their properties.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: jesmu84 on January 17, 2023, 06:33:41 PM
If you've got nothing to hide, why does it matter
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: tower912 on January 17, 2023, 06:43:54 PM
Like pleading the fifth.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 17, 2023, 07:01:22 PM
Guess MSG wasn't using facial recognition in March of '21.

Ewing kept getting stopped by the staff and asked for ID.

Case of CWB?
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 17, 2023, 07:22:21 PM
There was a story a about a law firm representing a client suing MSG for some reason.  One of the attorneys had Knicks season tickets for like the last 45 years.  He showed up for a game and wasn't allowed in and was told facial recognition flagged him. Apparently all the attorneys involved with the same lawsuit were also banned.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2023, 07:39:38 PM
Gang, facial recognition software is a blessing. Clear uses it at airports to identify travelers. On average, I get through MCO security in about six minutes because of it. Even EWR, most of the time, is about 10 minutes.

If it is used properly, it should save time and energy getting into a stadium.

Good lord.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2023, 07:40:26 PM
If you've got nothing to hide, why does it matter

Now that is some unusual bait.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 17, 2023, 08:30:44 PM
If you've got nothing to hide, why does it matter

That’s the rationale used by repressive governments/police states everywhere.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 17, 2023, 08:34:01 PM
Now that is some unusual bait.

Unusual but apparently effective

That’s the rationale used by repressive governments/police states everywhere.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2023, 08:39:45 PM
Unusual but apparently effective

Yep, gottem
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: JWags85 on January 18, 2023, 08:47:16 AM
Clear is available in many stadiums/arenas now, including MSG.

That was actually where I finished my registration/got my picture taken.  Amusing that every time I go through at an airport, a picture of me with a queue of people behind me outside shows up
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 18, 2023, 10:30:08 AM
That was actually where I finished my registration/got my picture taken.  Amusing that every time I go through at an airport, a picture of me with a queue of people behind me outside shows up

Just be glad that they do not use driver's license photos. The DMV people who take those get a kick out of making everyone look awful.

The only worse photos would be those taken by morticians to show off their work. 
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: Jockey on January 18, 2023, 02:47:40 PM
If you've got nothing to hide, why does it matter

The mantra of repressors everywhere.  :-\

(Yes, I do know your comment was sarcasm.)
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: warriorchick on January 18, 2023, 02:52:45 PM
Gang, facial recognition software is a blessing. Clear uses it at airports to identify travelers. On average, I get through MCO security in about six minutes because of it. Even EWR, most of the time, is about 10 minutes.

If it is used properly, it should save time and energy getting into a stadium.

INS uses it as well. It's a little weird being able to get back into the country without showing my physical passport.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: JWags85 on January 18, 2023, 03:27:15 PM
INS uses it as well. It's a little weird being able to get back into the country without showing my physical passport.

Yea being able to just take a picture at the kiosk and be done is amazing from a speed and efficiency standpoint, but a bit unnerving from a "wow they really do have so much info on us" perspective.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 18, 2023, 03:58:51 PM
Yea being able to just take a picture at the kiosk and be done is amazing from a speed and efficiency standpoint, but a bit unnerving from a "wow they really do have so much info on us" perspective.

wHaT dO yOu HaVe To WoRrY aBoUT, wAGS?
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 18, 2023, 04:41:04 PM
INS uses it as well. It's a little weird being able to get back into the country without showing my physical passport.

No wonder our southern border is secure.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 19, 2023, 07:50:52 AM
https://nypost.com/2023/01/18/judge-blasts-james-dolans-facial-recognition-bans-from-msg-stupidest-thing-ever/
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2023, 07:53:01 AM
That doesn't make my list of stupidest things I have heard this week, let alone 'ever'.
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: warriorchick on January 19, 2023, 09:29:41 AM
Yea being able to just take a picture at the kiosk and be done is amazing from a speed and efficiency standpoint, but a bit unnerving from a "wow they really do have so much info on us" perspective.

Why is this any different than scanning the code on your passport?
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: JWags85 on January 19, 2023, 01:38:07 PM
Why is this any different than scanning the code on your passport?

Because with the passport code you are physically presenting the passport for scanning.  If they can link you from a photo like that at a kiosk, they can easily pull up and track/identify you from any number of cameras you pass daily.  Thats the difference.

I'm not some paranoid "Big Brother is watching, be afraid" sort of person, but from time to time certain things make you pause and go "huh"
Title: Re: Madison Square Garden Using Facial Recognition
Post by: warriorchick on January 19, 2023, 04:52:14 PM
Because with the passport code you are physically presenting the passport for scanning.  If they can link you from a photo like that at a kiosk, they can easily pull up and track/identify you from any number of cameras you pass daily.  Thats the difference.

I'm not some paranoid "Big Brother is watching, be afraid" sort of person, but from time to time certain things make you pause and go "huh"

If they already have your passport photo, they can do that anyway