Science still not settled on Natural Immunity vs Vaccines

[Lighthouse 84]

It’s a no brainer when it’s approved.

But it’s not approved.  So how is it a no brainer?

[Pakuni]

https://mobile.twitter.com/rfsquared/status/1492951410597584899

Cause current dosage still isn’t working.

No, but you're getting warmer.
Keep trying.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

But it’s not approved.  So how is it a no brainer?

When it is approved, it’s a no brainer. Why is this so hard?

[🏀]

When it is approved, it’s a no brainer. Why is this so hard?

Disruptor.

[MU82]

COVID-19: We need to vaccinate more young people and kids, doctor urges

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccinate-kids-172307779.html

Only about 20% of children between the ages of 5-11 in the U.S. are fully vaccinated despite COVID-19 vaccines being approved for this age group three months ago.

For kids between the ages of 12-17, roughly half are vaccinated while just 20% are boosted. In other words, there are still millions of children vulnerable to COVID-19.

“I think more of us need to be really frank with the American people … that [vaccines] are safe, they are effective, that COVID is massively affecting kids, especially during this Omicron surge,” Dr. Anand Swaminathan, a New Jersey-based emergency medicine physician, said on Yahoo Finance Live (video above). “And these [cases] are preventable. These are preventable hospitalizations. They are preventable deaths in kids.”

COVID cases among children have risen steadily over the last several months, largely due to the virulence of the Omicron variant. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), there have been nearly 4.2 million cases reported since the beginning of January and nearly 632,000 cases for the week ending Feb. 3. That more than doubles the Delta variant peak in 2021.

“The American Academy of Pediatrics and really every pediatrician that I’ve had the good fortune to meet has been very strong on the side of vaccinating children,” Fairbrother said. “It is true that COVID is not a huge risk to children. There are very few children who got super sick with COVID, and an even smaller percentage of them who died of COVID.”

Since COVID first hit the U.S., over 12 million children have tested positive for the virus, according to AAP. Less than 1% of the COVID cases among children have resulted in death.

“It’s not a huge number but still, seven died in January from COVID,” Swaminathan said. “Those are preventable deaths. We don’t need to have any kids dying of this. Vaccines can help to protect the group where they’re approved.”

At the same time, children infected with the coronavirus are at risk for developing multi-system inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), which the CDC defines as "a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs." There have been more than 6,800 cases of MIS-C in the U.S. and 59 deaths tied to the issue.

“Their lives are being affected by their long-term symptoms,” Dr. Hilary Fairbrother, a Houston-based emergency medicine physician, said recently on Yahoo Finance Live. “And that’s 10-15% of children who get COVID. All of these things are mitigated by the vaccine. MIS-C is essentially gone. 95% reduction of MIS-C. The long-term COVID symptoms, essentially gone, and essentially zero ability to have COVID kill a child who is vaccinated."

[Pakuni]

COVID-19: We need to vaccinate more young people and kids, doctor urges

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccinate-kids-172307779.html

Meh ... I'm going to wait and see what my dentist thinks.

[4everwarriors]

When it is approved, it’s a no brainer. Why is this so hard?

Wrong. The virus and its consequences to young children is minimal and insignificant to make a blanket statement like this, hey?

[Lighthouse 84]

When it is approved, it’s a no brainer. Why is this so hard?

Is it a no brainer only when it’s approved?  You said before it was a no brainer. Period. There wasn’t any qualification about it needing to be approved first.  You said there were no issues. 

Why don’t you admit you jumped the gun and it’s not so cut and dried for small children yet?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Is it a no brainer only when it’s approved?  You said before it was a no brainer. Period. There wasn’t any qualification about it needing to be approved first.  You said there were no issues. 

Why don’t you admit you jumped the gun and it’s not so cut and dried for small children yet?

🙄🙄🙄

I would have volunteered my kids to participate in trials. I’m not anti-science.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wrong. The virus and its consequences to young children is minimal and insignificant to make a blanket statement like this, hey?

You’ve been wrong so consistently for two years now. You’d think you’d have the self awareness to sit this out and stop making Covid statements. But I guess not.

[4everwarriors]

Sometimes the absurdity and stupidity of others on this board is too great to ignore, hey?

[Lighthouse 84]

🙄🙄🙄

I would have volunteered my kids to participate in trials. I’m not anti-science.

. Sultan. Often wrong.  Never in doubt.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

. Sultan. Often wrong.  Never in doubt.

So what exactly was I wrong about.

[Lighthouse 84]

So what exactly was I wrong about.

9 days ago, you said it was a no brainer to get very young children vaxxed and to stop implying there were issues when there aren't any.   You called anyone who would hesitate to vax a small child an "anti-science moron."  Now, they've pulled approval on the vax for very young children.  Sounds like an issue to me. 

If you would want your kids to be part of a science trial, you be you.  But it's not an unreasonable position, and doesn't make someone an "anti-science moron", if they chose to wait until the vaccine has received approval. 

Today, you say it's a no brainer once approved.  But 9 days ago, it was a no brainer.  Period.  That's what you were wrong about. It'd be nice to see you own it for once and admit when you're wrong, but I don't think anyone's going to hold their breath on that one.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

9 days ago, you said it was a no brainer to get very young children vaxxed and to stop implying there were issues when there aren't any.   You called anyone who would hesitate to vax a small child an "anti-science moron."  Now, they've pulled approval on the vax for very young children.  Sounds like an issue to me. 

If you would want your kids to be part of a science trial, you be you.  But it's not an unreasonable position, and doesn't make someone an "anti-science moron", if they chose to wait until the vaccine has received approval. 

Today, you say it's a no brainer once approved.  But 9 days ago, it was a no brainer.  Period.  That's what you were wrong about. It'd be nice to see you own it for once and admit when you're wrong, but I don't think anyone's going to hold their breath on that one.

You’re right…cause nothing I said was wrong. Nice try though.

[Lighthouse 84]

You’re right…cause nothing I said was wrong. Nice try though.

To borrow from someone else, but it's entirely a correct use of it,

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

To borrow from someone else, but it's entirely a correct use of it,

You are trying really hard.

[Lighthouse 84]

You are trying really hard.

And you’re being extremely obtuse. 

[Lennys Tap]

And you’re being extremely obtuse.

It’s the closest he comes to having a gift.

[Lennys Tap]

🙄🙄🙄

I would have volunteered my kids to participate in trials. I’m not anti-science.

What does not wanting your children being used as lab rats have to do with being anti-science, FFS?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

What does not wanting your children being used as lab rats have to do with being anti-science, FFS?

Calling children who have been volunteered by their parents to take a vaccine that has been safe and effective in all other populations “lab rats” is something an anti-science moron would say.

[4everwarriors]

Check back in 20 years and see how it all turned out before judgin'. That's the way science experiments work, aina?

[tower912]

Pre-COVID, every so often, there would be a story about a family, generally but not always extremely religious, that would have a sick child that they would choose to not treat.   Either their faith and God would save them, or they didn't want to put anything artificial into them.   
   These stories would come out and most people would shake their heads and tsk, windering what kind of parent wouldn't do everything in their power to save their child.
   Those days are gone.   People like that are being held up as heroes.

[Lennys Tap]

Pre-COVID, every so often, there would be a story about a family, generally but not always extremely religious, that would have a sick child that they would choose to not treat.   Either their faith and God would save them, or they didn't want to put anything artificial into them.   
   These stories would come out and most people would shake their heads and tsk, windering what kind of parent wouldn't do everything in their power to save their child.
   Those days are gone.   People like that are being held up as heroes.

Because waiting to see if a vaccine is proven safe for small children (who are at very low risk of getting very sick anyway) rather than “volunteering” them and hoping they’ll be safe is the same as watching your child suffer and die untreated.

Your post is despicable, disgusting  and total BS.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Because waiting to see if a vaccine is proven safe for small children (who are at very low risk of getting very sick anyway) rather than “volunteering” them and hoping they’ll be safe is the same as watching your child suffer and die untreated.

Your post is despicable, disgusting  and total BS.

Why are you putting volunteering in quotes?  Do you feel that parents are putting their children at risk?  Cause that’s “despicable, disgusting and total BS.”

Oh and something that an anti-science moron would say.