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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #975 on: April 01, 2021, 11:50:40 AM »
Damn, it's a shame Scholl didn't know about the UNC opening a couple of weeks ago.  He coulda saved the buyout.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #976 on: April 01, 2021, 11:54:43 AM »
Brutal for TTU.  Back to middling mediocrity

Wojo to the rescue?  Tough day for TTU.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #977 on: April 01, 2021, 11:57:10 AM »
You think UNC will only hire one of their own?

They've been doing it that way for 60 years.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #978 on: April 01, 2021, 11:59:47 AM »
The problem for UNC right now is that there is no clear successor to name that is an alum with successful high-major experience.  Hubert Davis hasn't been a head coach.  Jerry Stackhouse has had two losing seasons at Vanderbilt (while also attacking fans on social media).  Wes Miller comes from a mid-major in UNC-Greensboro.  Jerod Haase has not done nearly enough at UAB or Stanford to warrant consideration.  Guys like George Karl and Larry Brown are not exactly young, nor are they likely able to put up with the demands of recruiting. 

Jordan and Kupchak will likely be advisors in the search, considering the Jordan Brand connection. 

Will be interesting who their identify as a top target.  I don't think anyone really thought this job would open this cycle.

which begs the question as to whether UNC will feel the need to stay inside the family. It obviously backfired once with Doherty and they were lucky someone the caliber of Roy was out there to get. Will they look back at that experience and be willing to look outside? Their AD was hired from the outside, having no connection to UNC.

I absolutely do not see Few going. The man is king in Spokane. He can kill a nun and the public would want to know what the nun did to deserve it. He also turned down Oregon, his alma mater, twice, and his parents live just south of Eugene. Jay Wright, however, I can see that happening.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #979 on: April 01, 2021, 12:04:27 PM »
The problem for UNC right now is that there is no clear successor to name that is an alum with successful high-major experience.  Hubert Davis hasn't been a head coach.  Jerry Stackhouse has had two losing seasons at Vanderbilt (while also attacking fans on social media).  Wes Miller comes from a mid-major in UNC-Greensboro.  Jerod Haase has not done nearly enough at UAB or Stanford to warrant consideration.  Guys like George Karl and Larry Brown are not exactly young, nor are they likely able to put up with the demands of recruiting. 

Jordan and Kupchak will likely be advisors in the search, considering the Jordan Brand connection. 

Will be interesting who their identify as a top target.  I don't think anyone really thought this job would open this cycle.

I think it's likely both Davis and Miller have had other opportunities but turned them down in hopes of landing the Carolina gig.
Carolina has always placed being a "Carolina Man" ahead of head coaching experience. Dean Smith was never a head coach before he got the job. Neither was Bill Guthridge. Doherty had one season at ND under his belt. Ole Roy was the exception but, again, Carolina man.
They obviously could go another direction, but there's going to be strong pressure to hire from within the family. Miller and Davis both check off a lot of boxes for them.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #980 on: April 01, 2021, 12:07:56 PM »
Early odds:

Hubert Davis Even
Wes Miller +200
Jerry Stackhouse +700
Tony Bennett +900
Jay Wright +1200
Nate Oats +1400
Scott Drew +1500
Steve Robinson +1800
Bill Self +2500
Brad Stevens +3000

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #982 on: April 01, 2021, 12:16:23 PM »
which begs the question as to whether UNC will feel the need to stay inside the family. It obviously backfired once with Doherty and they were lucky someone the caliber of Roy was out there to get. Will they look back at that experience and be willing to look outside? Their AD was hired from the outside, having no connection to UNC.

I absolutely do not see Few going. The man is king in Spokane. He can kill a nun and the public would want to know what the nun did to deserve it. He also turned down Oregon, his alma mater, twice, and his parents live just south of Eugene. Jay Wright, however, I can see that happening.

Really? He can win more titles at UNC that at NOVA? He can get better recruits than he is getting now?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #983 on: April 01, 2021, 12:25:44 PM »
Either DePaul has a reason for liking this guy more than anyone could assume from a resume....or....they are such a mess that all they can get is someone willing to take the job for additional income prior to retirement knowing they don't plan to use DePaul as a stepping stone because it's nearly impossible to win there.
Will DePaul get involved in the bidding for Nimari Burnett now?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #985 on: April 01, 2021, 12:37:56 PM »
Really? He can win more titles at UNC that at NOVA? He can get better recruits than he is getting now?

Can he win more titles?  Not sure.  Can he get better recruits?  Id argue it would be much easier.  I love Jay Wright and hope he stays at Nova forever, but IMO, I think UNC is the top CBB job in the country, at least among the "blue bloods".  Factoring location, facilities, reputation, history, and having the best player in history with the most impactful basketball brand as your alum and supporter.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #986 on: April 01, 2021, 12:40:29 PM »
I’m thinking Goodman is getting a cut of Moser’s next contract. Whether at Loyola or elsewhere. He’s pumped him up for every job.

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1377670943812673539?s=21

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #987 on: April 01, 2021, 12:45:29 PM »
I get a coach, especially a younger coach, having some success and wanting to move to a place where you have more resources to recruit 5-stars and compete for a championship. Wright and Few already have that. Would going to a blue blood make it any easier? Maybe. But remember that you're trading in your built-up goodwill at home for a fanbase with even higher expectations and scrutiny. 
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #988 on: April 01, 2021, 12:45:35 PM »
Fairly confident Moser is going to stay at Loyola for another year and take over Northwestern when Collins inevitably gets fired next season.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #989 on: April 01, 2021, 12:49:52 PM »
Fairly confident Moser is going to stay at Loyola for another year and take over Northwestern when Collins inevitably gets fired next season.

If Creighton and McDermott part ways, I could see him going to his alma mater. Another Creighton transfer and some Zegarowski rumors might make this non-salvageable.

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« Reply #990 on: April 01, 2021, 12:55:58 PM »
If Creighton and McDermott part ways, I could see him going to his alma mater. Another Creighton transfer and some Zegarowski rumors might make this non-salvageable.

Moser isn't coaching too far from the 94 corridor.

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« Reply #991 on: April 01, 2021, 01:04:23 PM »
If Creighton and McDermott part ways, I could see him going to his alma mater. Another Creighton transfer and some Zegarowski rumors might make this non-salvageable.

TIL Zegarowski is related to Michael Carter-Williams.

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« Reply #992 on: April 01, 2021, 01:29:21 PM »
Not only would most Scoopers have lost their shyte if we had hired a coach with Beard's resume, but even more Scoopers would have lost their shyte if he left Marquette after 5 years to go to Texas.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #993 on: April 01, 2021, 01:47:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1377670943812673539?s=20
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Loyola Chicago’s Porter Moser and North Texas’ Grant McCasland are both among the candidates for the Oklahoma opening, sources told @Stadium.


And, do you think this is a fair critique?

https://twitter.com/ExtraInnings10/status/1377676892308959232?s=20
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Without Krutwig: 89-105.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #994 on: April 01, 2021, 02:11:26 PM »
Fairly confident Moser is going to stay at Loyola for another year and take over Northwestern when Collins inevitably gets fired next season.

While I could absolutely see this, boy would that be underwhelming for Porter Moser given his stock being at an all-time high.  He was probably stunned he didn't get Marquette.

Creighton makes more sense given McDermott is hanging on by a thread and he's an alum.

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« Reply #995 on: April 01, 2021, 02:20:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1377670943812673539?s=20
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Loyola Chicago’s Porter Moser and North Texas’ Grant McCasland are both among the candidates for the Oklahoma opening, sources told @Stadium.


And, do you think this is a fair critique?

https://twitter.com/ExtraInnings10/status/1377676892308959232?s=20
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@GoodmanHoops @JoshOn1400 @Stadium Porter Moser-
Fired at Illinois State  (51-65). At Loyola: with Cameron Krutwig: 99-35.
Without Krutwig: 89-105.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #996 on: April 01, 2021, 03:50:43 PM »
Moser isn't coaching too far from the 94 corridor.

My prediction is he convinces all his current seniors to run it back next year, they make another deep run, then he takes ND when it opens up

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #997 on: April 01, 2021, 04:43:37 PM »
Anytime you can hire a 50 something nomadic assistant who spent the vast majority of his career in the West/Southwest to coach a Big East program in Chicago, you gotta do it.  2-12 as interim for Lou Henson at NMSU is glowing as well.

From my DePaul buddy: "Surprised. But probably as much star power as he could get being unable to spend $2 million."

He thinks they should have gone with Tom Kleinschmidt.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #998 on: April 01, 2021, 05:08:47 PM »
A few observations on some of the above posts
Doubt if McDermott is hanging by a thread. If he is, he can walk away and find a better gig. He is a damn good coach.

Likely UNC will stay within. After all, we heard from MU and Shaka it is all about family.  Having said that if Wright wanted that job he would get it. Likely he is happy at Villanova. He can compete for championships just as well at Villanova.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #999 on: April 01, 2021, 05:39:58 PM »
Any Wardle updates?

 

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