Super Bowl predictions

[tower912]

First of all, congratulations to the Eagles for finishing strong with a journeyman quarterback.   That team played their best game so far on the biggest stage.   Hat tipped. 
Congratulations to the GOATs for yet another double digit fourth quarter comeback.     

New England finishes the job.    Belichick, Brady, and the soon to be departed co-ordinators hold it together for one last ride.    Philadelphia fights, but NE is able to confuse Foles just enough at the right times to get the stops they need.

New England, 35-24

[wadesworld]

Superbar.

Pats win.

[tower912]

Crap.   My bad.   Mods, please correct my error.   

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

The AFC was trash this year. The Eagles have nice balance on offense with big play WR Jeffrey and Smith, a good TE in Ertz, and a good enough running game. Foles is good enough but Philly does have some OL injuries.


The Eagles also have a good front four on D, with depth at DE to rotate fresh pass rushers. The key, as always with Brady, get pressure with the front four and knock him off his spot. Do that and the Eagles win.

Cheese steaks 27
Clam chowder 21

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Cheering like hell for the eagles.

Know it will be the patriots.

[SaveOD238]

Cheering like hell for the eagles.

Know it will be the patriots.

Aren't we all?

[mileskishnish72]

Nope.

[wadesworld]

The AFC was trash this year. The Eagles have nice balance on offense with big play WR Jeffrey and Smith, a good TE in Ertz, and a good enough running game. Foles is good enough but Philly does have some OL injuries.


The Eagles also have a good front four on D, with depth at DE to rotate fresh pass rushers. The key, as always with Brady, get pressure with the front four and knock him off his spot. Do that and the Eagles win.

Cheese steaks 27
Clam chowder 21

I mean, it's not like the NFC was murderer's row.  Did you see the Vikings team that played in the NFC Title game?  Very solid defense.  But a Case freaking Keenum led team finished as the 2 seed and made it to an NFC Title game.

Aren't we all?

No.

[Eldon]

Eagles have chemistry, Patriots do not. 

Final:
Eagles: 28
Patriots: 10

First Half:
Eagles: 21
Patriots: 3

(Belichick can't cheat this year.  Eagles avenge their SB loss)

[wadesworld]

Eagles have chemistry, Patriots do not. 

Final:
Eagles: 28
Patriots: 10

First Half:
Eagles: 21
Patriots: 3

(Belichick can't cheat this year.  Eagles avenge their SB loss)

What did Belichick do to cheat last year?  I also would probably disagree that the biggest dynasty in the history of the NFL doesn't have chemistry...

I would not be all that surprised if the Eagles won, but I don't think it'll be because the Patriots have a bunch of issues in the organization.

[GB Warrior]

Prediction is that this mirrors the Jaguars-Pats game, with the Pats charging late to win. The Vikings couldn't take advantage of the short routes that the Eagles CBs were content to give them; I think over the course of 60 minutes, Brady will.

Now that the Vikings are out, my only hope is that we get a great game.

[Nukem2]

New England got a gift in the first half yesterday when the DB did the helmet hit on Gronikowski.  Without that and the subsequent pass intference, NE could have been down 20-3 in Q4.  This version of Brady/Belicheck (and the AFC) is not as good as many of the previous ones.

[GooooMarquette]

I love some people’s optimism that this will be different - and I hope it is - but I think the Patriots will figure out a way to win.

I also don’t get the logic of using yesterday‘s performances to predict Super Bowl outcomes. If the previous game mattered, the Vikings would’ve been a heck of a lot closer yesterday.

[MU82]

New England got a gift in the first half yesterday when the DB did the helmet hit on Gronikowski.  Without that and the subsequent pass intference, NE could have been down 20-3 in Q4.  This version of Brady/Belicheck (and the AFC) is not as good as many of the previous ones.

Well, the hit did take out perhaps the best tight end in NFL history; that had to be worth something to the Jags.

I never root for injuries, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. The Jags did to Gronk what the NFL should have.

[GooooMarquette]

Superbar.

He said Super Bowl, not Superbar.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

New England got a gift in the first half yesterday when the DB did the helmet hit on Gronikowski.  Without that and the subsequent pass intference, NE could have been down 20-3 in Q4.  This version of Brady/Belicheck (and the AFC) is not as good as many of the previous ones.

Not just one but three unnecessary penalties right before the half were the gifts to the Pats. Jags had a delay of game (out of a timeout!) that erased a third down conversion that would have put them in field goal range. Then the helmet to helmet hit (Gronk had already dropped the ball before the contact) and finally the massive pass interference call. I don't think the receiver was catching up to that ball, no need to interfere.

Those three penalties were a 10-14 point swing.

I will say, the penalty on Gronk was absolutely the right call. But in that situation, I'm not sure that it was actually a cheap hit. I think it is much more dangerous if Church goes low and takes out Gronk's legs.  Again, gotta make that call but just goes to show how difficult it has become for defenders to properly defend the pass.

[VegasWarrior77]

Philly! Philly!

[nyg]

Not just one but three unnecessary penalties right before the half were the gifts to the Pats. Jags had a delay of game (out of a timeout!) that erased a third down conversion that would have put them in field goal range. Then the helmet to helmet hit (Gronk had already dropped the ball before the contact) and finally the massive pass interference call. I don't think the receiver was catching up to that ball, no need to interfere.

Those three penalties were a 10-14 point swing.

I will say, the penalty on Gronk was absolutely the right call. But in that situation, I'm not sure that it was actually a cheap hit. I think it is much more dangerous if Church goes low and takes out Gronk's legs.  Again, gotta make that call but just goes to show how difficult it has become for defenders to properly defend the pass.

Delay of game was biggest swing of game, just killed them and went downhill after that.

Pats 24, Philly 13

[Eldon]

What did Belichick do to cheat last year?  I also would probably disagree that the biggest dynasty in the history of the NFL doesn't have chemistry...

I would not be all that surprised if the Eagles won, but I don't think it'll be because the Patriots have a bunch of issues in the organization.

Not sure.  But time will tell.

[Eldon]

Philly! Philly!

That's a great graphic, but it could have done without the blotch on DC.  The rivalry with the Skins (and the Giants for that matter) pales in comparison to the rivalry with the Cowboys.

The Redskins are to Eagles fans what the Lions are to Packers fans.

[brewcity77]

Philly fans are quite possibly the worst sports fans in the world. I probably won't watch the game, but screw Philly, I hope the Patriots beat them 647-0.

http://dailysnark.com/eagles-fans-parade-around-city-yelling-fck-millie-99-year-old-grandma-vikings-fan/

[Goose]

GOAT and Pats get number six. Their ability to win under pressure is truly amazing. Like Jordan and the Bulls, they are much watch TV because I likely will never see a player/team in the NFL match their success. When Jordan was with the Bulls, I made my young boys watch Jordan every chance they could and they are watching Brady now on their own.

Last night my youngest son (24 years old) said, "I am going to try and model my business career in a manner that matches Brady/Belichick drive for winning." I love the fact my kids have learned how greatness happens and it does not come by accident.

[Hards Alumni]

GOAT and Pats get number six. Their ability to win under pressure is truly amazing. Like Jordan and the Bulls, they are much watch TV because I likely will never see a player/team in the NFL match their success. When Jordan was with the Bulls, I made my young boys watch Jordan every chance they could and they are watching Brady now on their own.

Last night my youngest son (24 years old) said, "I am going to try and model my business career in a manner that matches Brady/Belichick drive for winning." I love the fact my kids have learned how greatness happens and it does not come by accident.

So they plan to cheat.  Got it.

[Babybluejeans]

Philly fans are quite possibly the worst sports fans in the world. I probably won't watch the game, but screw Philly, I hope the Patriots beat them 647-0.

http://dailysnark.com/eagles-fans-parade-around-city-yelling-fck-millie-99-year-old-grandma-vikings-fan/

Hear hear. Having grown up in the mid-Atlantic, I can confirm that every stereotype about Eagles fans are true. They're vicious and violent when the team sucks, and they're horribly arrogant (they truly think they'll win 10 Super Bowls in a row) when they're even half-decent. I hope the Eagles get annihilated.

[Goose]

Hards

No, I think they will stick with working harder than everyone else, preparing harder than everyone else and place the bar at level higher than everyone else. Sounds like a plan built for success to me.

[Hards Alumni]

Hards

No, I think they will stick with working harder than everyone else, preparing harder than everyone else and place the bar at level higher than everyone else. Sounds like a plan built for success to me.

Okay, but I'm not sure Brady/Belechek are the duo you want them to emulate.  They're both very off putting men, and have been caught cheating in their profession.

[MerrittsMustache]

Hards

No, I think they will stick with working harder than everyone else, preparing harder than everyone else and place the bar at level higher than everyone else. Sounds like a plan built for success to me.

Yes, they do work hard, prepare hard and place the bar higher than others, but they've also cheated repeatedly in order to reach their peak. The reason that they don't get called out more often is because every other NFL team is also trying to cheat the system. Quite frankly, Belichick's Patriots are better at cheating than everyone else.

[Pakuni]

Yes, they do work hard, prepare hard and place the bar higher than others, but they've also cheated repeatedly in order to reach their peak. The reason that they don't get called out more often is because every other NFL team is also trying to cheat the system. Quite frankly, Belichick's Patriots are better at cheating than everyone else.

So, if everybody cheats (or tries to cheat) why are we slagging the Patriots for being better at it?

IMO, the Pats get called out for cheating more than anyone else not because they do it more than anyone else, but because they've strung together an unprecedented era of dominance in the modern NFL and thus are 1) constantly under the microscope and 2) constantly targets for those resentful of their success.

Case in point ...  a certain NFC North quarterback admits he adjusts balls' air pressure beyond league rules, and the NFL doesn't even investigate, much less punish, him or his team.
Brady is accused of it, repeatedly denies it, and yet on the basis of some sketchy evidence ends up with a four-game suspension, and his team loses a first-round pick and $1 million.
And people think the league favors the Patriots?

For the record, I am not a Patriots fan and will be cheering hard for the Iggles. But it's ridiculous the lengths some will go to discredit the success of Brady and Belichick.

[MUBBau]

Case in point ...  a certain NFC North quarterback admits he adjusts balls' air pressure beyond league rules, and the NFL doesn't even investigate, much less punish, him or his team.

I'm pretty sure he does this prior to them being inspected by officials, not after.

[MerrittsMustache]

So, if everybody cheats (or tries to cheat) why are we slagging the Patriots for being better at it?

IMO, the Pats get called out for cheating more than anyone else not because they do it more than anyone else, but because they've strung together an unprecedented era of dominance in the modern NFL and thus are 1) constantly under the microscope and 2) constantly targets for those resentful of their success.

Case in point ...  a certain NFC North quarterback admits he adjusts balls' air pressure beyond league rules, and the NFL doesn't even investigate, much less punish, him or his team.
Brady is accused of it, repeatedly denies it, and yet on the basis of some sketchy evidence ends up with a four-game suspension, and his team loses a first-round pick and $1 million.
And people think the league favors the Patriots?

For the record, I am not a Patriots fan and will be cheering hard for the Iggles. But it's ridiculous the lengths some will go to discredit the success of Brady and Belichick.

They also get called out for cheating more because, you know, they've been caught cheating multiple times. I'd be willing to bet that "Spygate" was just the tip of the iceberg.

I look at Belichick and the Patriots in the same way that I look at someone like Barry Bonds. The ability was there to be among the all-time greats and cheating brought it all to the next level.

[Goose]

FYI---I am not a NE Patriots fan, not was I a Jordan era Chicago Bulls fan. Simply put, there are times in life that someone/team does something that makes history, and I happen to respect the greatness a great deal. In addition, I am sure I take pleasure that the masses try hard to find fault with this greatness.

To me, whether it was Jordan, Tiger, Brady/Belickick, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett or any other individual/team that achieves historic greatness, I try to study and learn from their success. I fully understand that many are flawed individuals, but find their stories very fascinating.

[4everwarriors]

That's a great graphic, but it could have done without the blotch on DC.  The rivalry with the Skins (and the Giants for that matter) pales in comparison to the rivalry with the Cowboys.

The Redskins are to Eagles fans what the Lions are to Packers fans.

Kinda looks like da map of POTUS' ass kickin' of dodo bird, aina?

[Pakuni]

They also get called out for cheating more because, you know, they've been caught cheating multiple times. I'd be willing to bet that "Spygate" was just the tip of the iceberg.

Lots of teams have been caught cheating multiple times. You just hear about it less.
The Broncos were caught circumventing the cap on multiple occasions during their Super Bowl seasons in the late 90s. Nobody, to my knowledge, runs around saying "Yeah, John Elway was great, but some of his success is a result of cheating. He's the Barry Bonds of football."
The Colts have been caught multiple times pumping noise through the stadium speakers when their opponents are on offense. Nobody says Tony Dungy's record is blemished by his cheating ways.
Heck, Jerry Rice admits he illegally wore stickum on his gloves. Does anyone not consider him the GOAT receiver because of it?

Everybody cheats if they can. But nobody cares when the Browns do, because they're the Browns. Everybody cares when it's the Patriots, because they win.
Again, I'm no Patriots fan, but chalking up any of their success to cheating is silly.

[Pakuni]

I'm pretty sure he does this prior to them being inspected by officials, not after.

How would anyone know? The league chose not to investigate an admitted rules violation.

[forgetful]

How would anyone know? The league chose not to investigate an admitted rules violation.

It's not an admitted rules violation.  It is the NFL's job to inspect ball-pressure.  If they are over inflated, they adjust them.  If they miss it, its the NFLs fault. 

If they inspect them all and certify them, and then someone illegally sneaks in afterward and adjusts them, it is a blatant rules violation and cheating. 

There was nothing to investigate; there was no evidence.  For that matter, maybe they did investigate, and followed up on it only to be told that they inflate them as much as possible prior to inspection. 

The Patriots get caught for cheating, because they cheat constantly.  One of the dirtiest teams in sports.

[Pakuni]

It's not an admitted rules violation.  It is the NFL's job to inspect ball-pressure.  If they are over inflated, they adjust them.  If they miss it, its the NFLs fault. 

Wait ... what?
If you cheat by overinflating the balls and don't get caught, then you didn't really cheat?
And no, the league is on record as saying they didn't investigate Rodgers.

I've reached the conclusion that some people really don't want to give the Patriots credit for their success.

[wadesworld]

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/955219874644717568/video/1

Belichick is so awesome.

[forgetful]

Wait ... what?
If you cheat by overinflating the balls and don't get caught, then you didn't really cheat?
And no, the league is on record as saying they didn't investigate Rodgers.

I've reached the conclusion that some people really don't want to give the Patriots credit for their success.

Pretty simple.  It is not the teams job to measure the ball pressure.  They inflate the game balls; the NFL confirms that they are within specification. 

Calling it cheating if any balls are found to be outside of specification is frankly, idiotic.  Now, if you intentionally go in and secretly inflate the balls outside of specifications after they have been inspected...then you intentionally violated the rules and you are a cheater. 

The Patriots have had some of the most egregious examples of cheating in modern sports.  To get caught that many times in blatant and deliberate rules violations, says a lot. 

[mu_hilltopper]

Prediction:  Vikings will not win the superbowl.

(ever)

[wadesworld]

Prediction:  Vikings will not win the superbowl.

(ever)

Hey, at least their stadium made it to the Super Bowl!

[🏀]

Hey, at least their stadium made it to the Super Bowl!

It does look to be a pretty amazing stadium. Build a nice glass shell like that over Lambeau, put in more real seats...mmmmhmm.

[NorthernDancerColt]

It does look to be a pretty amazing stadium. Build a nice glass shell like that over Lambeau, put in more real seats...mmmmhmm.

Sacrilege. The Firmament is the only glass dome over the tundra.

[🏀]

Sacrilege. The Firmament is the only glass dome over the tundra.

Right up there with Bear Weather.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Right up there with Bear Weather.

Boers and Bernstein dedicated an entire delicious week to the lunacy that is "Bear Weather."

[MerrittsMustache]

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/955219874644717568/video/1

Belichick is so awesome.

I'm not a big Belichick fan, but that was pretty badass.

[Pakuni]

The Patriots have had some of the most egregious examples of cheating in modern sports.  To get caught that many times in blatant and deliberate rules violations, says a lot.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on the egregiousness of their cheating. Spygate, IMO, is not nearly as bad as repeatedly circumvating the cap. Deflating the ball is not any more egregious than wearing stickum, overinflating the ball or greasing your jersey. You're free to disagree, but I would hope for consistency's sake you feel the same about the tarnished legacies of Tony Dungy, John Elway, Jerry Rice and Bill Cowher.

[MU82]

FYI---I am not a NE Patriots fan, not was I a Jordan era Chicago Bulls fan. Simply put, there are times in life that someone/team does something that makes history, and I happen to respect the greatness a great deal. In addition, I am sure I take pleasure that the masses try hard to find fault with this greatness.

To me, whether it was Jordan, Tiger, Brady/Belickick, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett or any other individual/team that achieves historic greatness, I try to study and learn from their success. I fully understand that many are flawed individuals, but find their stories very fascinating.

I agree with this, Goose. Nicely said.

I also agree that the Patriots have cheated, but everything is relative. Their "crimes" seem rather meh to me. Just my opinion, nothing else.

And yes, although I really dislike Belichick and all of the others from the Parcells-Knight-LaRussa d-bag tree, I love the way he tossed that meaningless piece of metal aside as if it were a used Kleenex.

Finally, whether the Pats win or lose, it will be fascinating to see what becomes of the Kraft-Belichick-Brady troika during the offseason. It will be the biggest story in the NFL ... unless it isn't!