Scholarship table
So what I'm reading hear is that standards have changed over time and students now have to do different things in order to get admittance. That's the point that I was making. Marquette may not have gotten more elite, but nationwide the requirements for getting into college have gone up.
Notice any trending with Buzz’s scores.........
Yup yup
I notice that that Crean has the lowest two seasons and the lowest average.
I think we agree then that, accounting for the times, MU is in about the same place. What they are not is elite and I think MU likes to overly espouse this, which irritates many alums.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
All true, but have courses and loads also become more difficult? I am amazed at what is required of high school students now. They have way more tools then I did, but nevertheless the demands of productivity from them is high
Tell that to the PT students. Yes MU as a whole is not elite but there are aspects that are elite
Top 100-200 out of 4500ish 4 year institutions. We can squabble on definitions but I don't think ellie is too much of a stretch. And while some alum get irritated about being elite, there are just as many (I would guess more) that want MU to be more elite.
Btw, to become elite, MU needs a medical school and all the research funds and endowment that go with it. But, we all have rehashed that here a million times. Not gonna happen.
Alums aren't frustrated with the "pursuit of elite", it's the sense that MU feels they have achieved it (which strays from its historical mission, IMO) that bothers many. That's the rub and the low alumni donation contribution rate is a sign of this, perhaps?Btw, to become elite, MU needs a medical school and all the research funds and endowment that go with it. But, we all have rehashed that here a million times. Not gonna happen.Any way, interesting digression. Congrats to Jae and Lazar! Their journeys have inspired many.
Giving up the medical school was one of the three great mistakes in Marquette history.
Not joining the original BE, and giving up Warriors?
Projecting (if you may) on Crean's trends to pre-Final 4, what I see in all three coaches is that the APRs were lower when the NCAA success was higher. Mike Deane would have had great APRs.
Not recruiting Kostas and Jeenathan
Not signing Kostas and letting Brett Nelson get away.
Davidson gagged hard for one of our runs when the APR was sliding...our APR didn’t make them throw the ball away, shoot terrible free throws, etc....etc, etc
Repeating the "Davidson gagged" lie for the 10th (20th, 30th, 40th?) time doesn't make it less a lie. One turnover, one missed free throw down the stretch, their points per possession during our miraculous comeback was actually BETTER than their season average. Does repeating lies over and over and over again work for you in "real life"?
Marquette shooting out of their backside for the final :40 was what made the difference, not Davidson gagging.
Notice that they're vastly superior to Crean's and better than Wojo's....BTW, here are Buzz's scores at VPI:2014-15 9522015-16 9632016-17 9702017-18 970avg 963.8So, also higher than Crean's or Wojo's at MU