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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Herman Cain on December 28, 2022, 08:09:10 AM
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Tiger Woods 2023 Schedule is out
The Big Cat will be the playing 6 events . On a month starting February .
Genesis Open
Players Championship
Masters
PGA
US Open
The Open Championship
Padraig Harrington thinks Tiger still has one more major in him. Tigers body is bad for sure . However , If the Weather is good all 4 days and Tiger has a good putting week it could happen.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/tiger-woods-schedule-2023-more-events-expected-but-competitiveness-questionable-amid-ongoing-recovery/amp/
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Tiger Woods 2023 Schedule is out
The Big Cat will be the playing 6 events . On a month starting February .
Genesis Open
Players Championship
Masters
PGA
US Open
The Open Championship
Padraig Harrington thinks Tiger still has one more major in him. Tigers body is bad for sure . However , If the Weather is good all 4 days and Tiger has a good putting week it could happen.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/tiger-woods-schedule-2023-more-events-expected-but-competitiveness-questionable-amid-ongoing-recovery/amp/
O/U on events played is 2.5
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I watched him walk at the PNC. He still has miles to go before he can string together multiple competitive rounds together while walking the course.
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I think it's time to celebrate him just making the cut.
Such a fun career to watch. Second best player ever in my book. Personal crap aside, he was awesome.
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The 2019 Masters win was magical and we shouldn't diminish it by looking for the next one.
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I think it's time to celebrate him just making the cut.
Such a fun career to watch. Second best player ever in my book. Personal crap aside, he was awesome.
He won’t catch Jack on majors because of his injuries, but in his prime he was the best ever and imo it’t not even close.
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Comparing athletes across generations is a silly exercise but seeing the struggles of Woods to handle daily life activities should bring more people to learn about the ridiculous accomplishments of William Ben Hogan.
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O/U on events played is 2.5
Under.
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Comparing athletes across generations is a silly exercise but seeing the struggles of Woods to handle daily life activities should bring more people to learn about the ridiculous accomplishments of William Ben Hogan.
Agreed.
And Jack, by his own choice, placed more emphasis on his family compared to his golf game than Tiger did.
I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong.
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Agreed.
And Jack, by his own choice, placed more emphasis on his family compared to his golf game than Tiger did.
I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong.
Lol. Jack anything.
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Young Tom Morris would have kicked everyone’s ass.
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Doing the Scotland trip with pops for his 60th this year.
Any recommendations for courses, ideally looking for a good mix of cheaper (£50-£100) courses and the obvious Open Championship caliber places.
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Extremely open ended question. Where are you basing yourself in Scotland?
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Extremely open ended question. Where are you basing yourself in Scotland?
It’s all very preliminary planning. The only thing I know forsure is it’ll be September-ish and we’re going to rent a car.
Happy to fly into Aberdeen, Glasgow, or Edinburgh, whichever gets the most bang for our buck. Obviously would love to play The Old Course but also realize that it’s highly unlikely.
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My recommendation, home base yourself in St. Andrews. Check with hotels for tee times, might be lucky there if you stay there. After that the ballot process, then walk-ups the morning of are possible if you're in town. Even if you're not in town, walk the Old Course on Sunday. Of course Eden/Jubilee is a bit easier to get on as well, if you can't play the Old Course, play next to it.
From St. Andrews, other courses that are easily reachable on my list are Crail, Carnoustie, Elie, Panmure, maybe Kingsbarns.
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Wife setup trip to The Open for my 40th back in 2006 when Tiger won at Royal Liverpool. Audibled and skipped Open but played New Course at St Andrews, walked Old Course on Sunday, ate lunch at Tom Morris Bar and Grill overlooking the Old Course, and hit the Jigger Inn next to the Road hole where you can watch folks play Road Hole. St. Andrews is great but two days is plenty.
Decided to skip Rotunda courses because figured there would be time in future for guys trip. We drove coast counterclockwise and stopped in Carnoustie, Aberdeen, and a few other spots. Golfed at Cruden Bay twice which was great and a couple other courses. Highlight was playing Royal Dornoch up north which is where Donald Ross learned his trade. You can hit the Whiskey trail along the way as well. In the north you can also see the Culloden Battlefields and William Wallace Monument....
Also hit Edinburgh which has a lot of great history as well.
Lots of great choices no matter what routes you take.
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https://www.news9live.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-expects-tense-masters-champions-dinner-amid-liv-golf-feud-218004
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Got an email saying the Lido is open for guests at Sand Valley starting at the end of June
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Got an email saying the Lido is open for guests at Sand Valley starting at the end of June
Guests with 2023 reservations
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Guests with 2023 reservations
That’s me!
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Rico
That is a very nice invite. Like many on here, I have heard fantastic reviews.
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Rico
That is a very nice invite. Like many on here, I have heard fantastic reviews.
Hoping to get on it. Waiting for a call back
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I’ve a good friend mine that thinks he is going to get a firm invite to Jordan’s track. I think he might be victim of wishful thinking, but pulling for him.
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I’ve a good friend mine that thinks he is going to get a firm invite to Jordan’s track. I think he might be victim of wishful thinking, but pulling for him.
I love that he built a course because he wanted more privacy and less slow play
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I love that he built a course because he wanted more privacy and less slow play
I'm just stunned he didn't built it on/near/adjacent to Native American land so he could also include a personal private casino.
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I'm just stunned he didn't built it on/near/adjacent to Native American land so he could also include a personal private casino.
I’m sure the level of gambling taking place their is on the scale of Vegas
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That’s me!
Nice! I’m planning a big 2024 trip to include Sedge.
I did just get an invite to join a group on 7/30, but we will see. After the Chicago Finance Bro incident over the summer, I do not want to get on the Keiser’s bad side and show up as a non-resort guest.
Goose
Awesome on Grove XXIII. 35 MPH carts and food/bev drones has to be an experience. There’s a podcast out there that detailed how the clubhouse was built too low due to a grade bust and Bobby Weed has to redesign a lot of the course to figure out drainage.
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Retire
Unfortunately it is not me hoping for the Grove invite, but hoping my buddy lands the invite. I love everything I have heard about it and I am a long time Jordan groupie which adds to the mystique.
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Big golf trip for me and some MU buddies. Going to Bandon Dunes March 29-April 2nd and then flying straight from Eugene on the 2nd to Augusta for the Monday practice round. Gonna be a hell of a week
Oh, it’s also final four weekend and championship Monday so it could get even sweeter!!
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Big golf trip for me and some MU buddies. Going to Bandon Dunes March 29-April 2nd and then flying straight from Eugene on the 2nd to Augusta for the Monday practice round. Gonna be a hell of a week
Oh, it’s also final four weekend and championship Monday so it could get even sweeter!!
I can’t wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in ‘24
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I can’t wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in ‘24
One of the guys on the trip (Nova grad, my enemy) lived in Portland for 5 years and swears this is the best time to go. We saved major bucks by going March/April rather than peak summer
I’m still a little nervous it’ll be in the 40s with rain and wind but that’s the Midwesterner in me
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One of the guys on the trip (Nova grad, my enemy) lived in Portland for 5 years and swears this is the best time to go. We saved major bucks by going March/April rather than peak summer
I’m still a little nervous it’ll be in the 40s with rain and wind but that’s the Midwesterner in me
I’ve had multiple people tell me early spring, too.
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Gots me a tee time on The Lido
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Anyone do club fittings in the Milwaukee area have any recommendations for fitting services?
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PM Nads. Pretty sure he was fitted at one of them PGA stores like in the MKE airport, hey?
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Orr check out Dicks. Dey karry all sizes, hey?
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PM Nads. Pretty sure he was fitted at one of them PGA stores like in the MKE airport, hey?
Wut?
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Morikawa with a collapse at the Sentry. Kapalua is not a course you expect to see someone cough up a big lead.
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Morikawa with a collapse at the Sentry. Kapalua is not a course you expect to see someone cough up a big lead.
+3 on 14-16 at Kapalua is Mickelson-esque on a Sunday at the US Open. Helps Team Europe’s Ryder Cup cause
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Good for Rahm. Rough for Morikawa.
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Anyone do club fittings in the Milwaukee area have any recommendations for fitting services?
I’ve heard good things about Jeff Kaiser out of Madison, but haven’t heard much in the Milwaukee area. I’ll reach out to a couple guys.
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I can’t wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in ‘24
Sounds like you have to.
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Morikawa 9 shots up with 17 to play, loses by 2 or 3 to Rahm. Epic collapse.
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First round in. 35 degrees, breezy.... glorious.
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https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1613204217656741889?t=z9KrXJdr_d5qPc7UUGToJw&s=19
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LIV golf is paying the CW to show their tournaments. That deal was not done in a Flash. And it is hardly showcasing the Legends of Tomorrow.
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LIV golf is paying the CW to show their tournaments. That deal was not done in a Flash. And it is hardly showcasing the Legends of Tomorrow.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/2023/01/17/liv-golf-david-feherty-teases-potential-tv-deal-with-cw-network/69813369007/
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Golfweek's Eamon Lynch's column on the LIV/CW deal:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/01/20/eamon-lynch-liv-golf-tv-contract-cw-network-desperation/?env=
Given his talent for recasting excruciating humiliations as bold victories, it’s surprising that Greg Norman doesn’t present himself annually at the gate of Augusta National wearing a green jacket and insisting that what happened in 1996 — or ’86, ’87, ’89 and ’99 — was actually a triumph worthy of a place setting at the Champions Dinner.
“A momentous day for LIV Golf,” is how Norman described his league’s just-announced broadcast deal with The CW, the nation’s 25th most-watched network, or 29th if you’re chasing the 18-49 demographic who might be drawn to “golf, but louder.” (To be fair, the CW’s average viewer is 58, so they watch every show louder).
Alert to an opportunity to impress his boss, LIV’s chief media officer, Will Staeger, conjured a version of events that would have even George Santos calling for narrative restraint.
“Following a competitive bidding window with multiple U.S. networks and streaming platforms, the sports story of 2022 has just moved into pole position for the top story of 2023,” he wrote in a social media post.
Staeger’s comment raises two questions for those among us predisposed to cynicism: did autocorrect change “begging” to “bidding,” and how does a competitive process among multiple parties result in giving away the product for free to the worst-case option? ...
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Just another golfer lying about his handicap.
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Golfweek's Eamon Lynch's column on the LIV/CW deal:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/01/20/eamon-lynch-liv-golf-tv-contract-cw-network-desperation/?env=
Given his talent for recasting excruciating humiliations as bold victories, it’s surprising that Greg Norman doesn’t present himself annually at the gate of Augusta National wearing a green jacket and insisting that what happened in 1996 — or ’86, ’87, ’89 and ’99 — was actually a triumph worthy of a place setting at the Champions Dinner.
“A momentous day for LIV Golf,” is how Norman described his league’s just-announced broadcast deal with The CW, the nation’s 25th most-watched network, or 29th if you’re chasing the 18-49 demographic who might be drawn to “golf, but louder.” (To be fair, the CW’s average viewer is 58, so they watch every show louder).
Alert to an opportunity to impress his boss, LIV’s chief media officer, Will Staeger, conjured a version of events that would have even George Santos calling for narrative restraint.
“Following a competitive bidding window with multiple U.S. networks and streaming platforms, the sports story of 2022 has just moved into pole position for the top story of 2023,” he wrote in a social media post.
Staeger’s comment raises two questions for those among us predisposed to cynicism: did autocorrect change “begging” to “bidding,” and how does a competitive process among multiple parties result in giving away the product for free to the worst-case option? ...
Here is another analysis on this media contract. Seems like a deal that helps both CW and LIV. Like a couple of homely people at bar closing time....
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tv-deal-beall-2023
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/liv-golfs-patrick-reed-throws-tee-at-rory-mcilroy-in-disgust-after-being-ignored/
Oh, Karen
https://www.aol.com/rory-mcilroy-defends-not-acknowledging-125440471.html
You can tell Rory is Irish.
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/liv-golfs-patrick-reed-throws-tee-at-rory-mcilroy-in-disgust-after-being-ignored/
Oh, Karen
https://www.aol.com/rory-mcilroy-defends-not-acknowledging-125440471.html
You can tell Rory is Irish.
That’s another lawsuit
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I appreciate Patrick loudly and proudly confirming that he is indeed who he has been telling us he is.
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Just another golfer lying about his handicap.
People who lie about their handicap these days are crazy. If you don’t have the GHIN app or some other handicap tracking app what the hell are you doing? And it’s always people trying to reverse sandbag themselves. Oh yeah I’m an 8, goes out and shoots 95
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People who lie about their handicap these days are crazy. If you don’t have the GHIN app or some other handicap tracking app what the hell are you doing? And it’s always people trying to reverse sandbag themselves. Oh yeah I’m an 8, goes out and shoots 95
Can’t sandbag if you stink anyway
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McIlroy is great for golf (as is a little rancor between players occasionally), and I'll be rooting for him in every major this season.
The only thing in those articles that surprised me was McIlroy saying he was surprised him ignoring Reed was a story. By now, Rory surely knows how all this works.
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McIlroy is great for golf (as is a little rancor between players occasionally), and I'll be rooting for him in every major this season.
The only thing in those articles that surprised me was McIlroy saying he was surprised him ignoring Reed was a story. By now, Rory surely knows how all this works.
Totallly agree. Just came here to say that non-LIV golf is very fortunate to have Rory right now. There would be a huge influence vaccuum without him.
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I doubt that Faldo and Norman will be sitting down over a bottle of wine any time soon. Maybe at the Masters Champions dinner. Oh, wait...
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I doubt that Faldo and Norman will be sitting down over a bottle of wine any time soon. Maybe at the Masters Champions dinner. Oh, wait...
Of all my favorite golf Sundays through the year, Faldo eviscerating Norman on that fateful April Sunday in 1996 remains my favorite
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Of all my favorite golf Sundays through the year, Faldo eviscerating Norman on that fateful April Sunday in 1996 remains my favorite
One of my favorite memories of that Sunday was Faldo on 13. He took a long time to set up and then drilled a beautiful approach shot on the green.
What many forget , in all the hype about Norman collapse , is that Faldo put up a very strong final round 67 , which was the best round of the day . Faldo not backing down contributed in part to Norman blowing up .
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One of my favorite memories of that Sunday was Faldo on 13. He took a long time to set up and then drilled a beautiful approach shot on the green.
What many forget , in all the hype about Norman collapse , is that Faldo put up a very strong final round 67 , which was the best round of the day . Faldo not backing down contributed in part to Norman blowing up .
Yup. He was a machine that day
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aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
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aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
https://www.wbal.com/article/602865/159/rodgers-takes-pro-am-at-pebble-as-rose-grabs-54-hole-lead/amp
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aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
Let’s hope this helps his trade value. Finally performed when it mattered.
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Let’s hope this helps his trade value. Finally performed when it mattered.
Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He’s registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
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Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He’s registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
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Thaw is coming this week. Need to get out in the next couple of weeks to run my streak to 12 straight months in Michigan.
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Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
Please
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Is Denny McCarthy the guy Lenny wanted us to pull for at the open?
nm. Nick Hardy.
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Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He’s registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
Please
Keith Mitchell calling out 12 for sandbagging …..
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/keith-mitchell-aaron-rodgers-crap-handicap-comment
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Add Keith Mitchell to the group of haters that #12 will surely address next time he's on McAfee.
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heading out to wigwam-gold course today, waste management pro-am wednesday, verrado founders and sterling grove booked so far. tough out here as super bowl revelers are crowding up the courses. also they really jacked up the prices...holy mulligans!! courses that would normally go for $60-70 are trying to get $150-175. crazy!! then next week they drop back down to reality
my home is about 10 miles from state farm dome, curious what i could have gotten to rent it out for the week but not enough money letting a bunch of drunk golfing football fans pee and puke in my pool for a week
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heading out to wigwam-gold course today, waste management pro-am wednesday, verrado founders and sterling grove booked so far. tough out here as super bowl revelers are crowding up the courses. also they really jacked up the prices...holy mulligans!! courses that would normally go for $60-70 are trying to get $150-175. crazy!! then next week they drop back down to reality
my home is about 10 miles from state farm dome, curious what i could have gotten to rent it out for the week but not enough money letting a bunch of drunk golfing football fans pee and puke in my pool for a week
Yeah, sorry about last time. I told them peeing was OK (everybody does it), but no puking!
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Let Herman's giddy Tiger predictions commence. Eldrick is teeing it up next week at Riviera.
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Let Herman's giddy Tiger predictions commence. Eldrick is teeing it up next week at Riviera.
Insert post of Tiger Tour Buddy saying he’s striking the ball well.
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Definitely can contend for the Masters this year.
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Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
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Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
Its extremely fun. And not just from a rager party on 16 perspective. Its just a much more laid back and non-uptight take on golf.
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Delighted to hear Tiger teeing it up at Rivieria . Tough course that requires lots of different golf shots , so Tiger has a chance to do well if he can get around the course with no pain.
Haven’t heard any comments from his fellow tour members yet . Will be sure to post if any of his peers can give some insights as to how he is striking the ball.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/tiger-woods-returning-to-pga-tour-at-genesis-invitational/amp/
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Haven’t heard any comments from his fellow tour members yet . Will be sure to post if any of his peers can give some insights as to how he is striking the ball.
Thanks 9-9-9. I'm sure they'll be accurate, unbiased appraisals like all the ones last year from his buddies predicting he had a great chance to win several majors.
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Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
The mrs and I have gone for the past 5 years. This year we went to wednesday pro am to beat some of the crowd as the Super Bowl is down here as well and it’s crazy. They said this year pro am was the busiest it’s ever been. They will attract upwards of 200,000 or more per day wouldn’t doubt if today they have closer to 300k
We usually get the clubhouse tix- great seats above 18th green. Easy to get to right as you enter the grounds, out of the crowds way, players exit off bridge right past us, your own bathrooms and spreads of food and drink makes it all more than worth the price which can range from $250-$500 or more per ticket run into the greatest people, have a blast every year!
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Tour Players excited for Tiger return. They say “It’s like Jesus is walking around “
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-return-riviera-pros-reaction?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36516&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Scottie returns to #1.
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Scottie returns to #1.
He played well. Looks like he is getting ready to peak at the Majors.
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He played well. Looks like he is getting ready to peak at the Majors.
Interesting day. Struggled a bit off the tee but iron play was flawless and made a couple big putts
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Nobody really made a push. Taylor made a couple little errors he could not afford. So Scottie was more than good enough today.
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Fowler had so many chances starting in round 3. He shot 4 under with 4 penalty shots…who does that? Then round 4 he missed multiple chance to contend with too many bogies(and a double) to counter his ace and 4 birds
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Dustin Johnson tweaked back; Paulina still in good shape though
https://www.golfmagic.com/liv-golf/paulina-gretzky-bares-all-liv-golf-hubby-dustin-johnson-sinks-13-year-low
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Easy ta figure out how he tweaked his back, hey?
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Dustin Johnson tweaked back; Paulina still in good shape though
https://www.golfmagic.com/liv-golf/paulina-gretzky-bares-all-liv-golf-hubby-dustin-johnson-sinks-13-year-low
well...no pics??
doc you dog you-someone tell him to use more legs eyn'a?
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Tiger says Masters Dinner should honor Scheffler
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-masters-champions-dinner-liv-golf-phil-mickelson-fred-couples-rory-mcilroy?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36624&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Yes, that is what usually happens. The champions' dinner honors the previous champion.
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Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
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Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
In good position to be there Sunday afternoon .
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Big Cat did not disappoint. MU last night and a Tiger today, I am a happy guy!!!
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Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
Is der a bad 69, hey?
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Tiger with sense of humor
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/us-sport/tiger-woods-tampon-paige-spiranac-29240036.amp
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I hope Lenny is out watching the comparatively young guys in Naples.
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In good position to be there Sunday afternoon .
Looks like he will be in Jupiter tonight, watching Sunday on the couch.
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Looks like he will be in Jupiter tonight, watching Sunday on the couch.
Well, he’s the host
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Need to tamp down expectations.
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Well, he’s the host
Right, forgot that. Probably wishes he was back in Jupiter.
As of now, he is missing cut. Least he can hand out the trophy on Sunday after few days of rest.
Expectations are way too high, well for some posters. Always like Tiger, but he is just too beat up physically. Wish him well.
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Right, forgot that. Probably wishes he was back in Jupiter.
As of now, he is missing cut. Least he can hand out the trophy on Sunday after few days of rest.
Expectations are way too high, well for some posters. Always like Tiger, but he is just too beat up physically. Wish him well.
I agree. Not surprised he “struggled” today. Actually hit the ball better than I anticipated both days but not playing regularly and the physical limitations of his body simply limit what he can do. Still wild he’ll basically better half the field, though
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Need to tamp down expectations.
I wish I could say I was surprised by the number of people OFFENDED by the gag joke, but I’m not. I’m not a huge Tiger fan and I wasn’t ground breakingly clever, but people need to lighten up.
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I agree. Not surprised he “struggled” today. Actually hit the ball better than I anticipated both days but not playing regularly and the physical limitations of his body simply limit what he can do. Still wild he’ll basically better half the field, though
For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn’t account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can’t root for the guy. Enjoy
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Annika Sorenstam gave a skirt to Fred Funk when she outdrove him during one of those goofy golf events.
It doesn't offend me. I question the timing and the self awareness. Funny in Jupiter when they are having a casual round. There is no way this could have been missed. Ah, well.
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For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn’t account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can’t root for the guy. Enjoy
I think Tiger knows his limitations and that’s why he’s playing here and the majors. I could see him play Jack’s place.
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Tiger still has a chance to make the cut.
Would help his cause if he did.
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Why?
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Why?
Makes the cut, has a chance to a win a tournament at course he never won a professional tournament on .
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He'll be fine.
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He'll be fine.
Of course he is going to be fine.
Tiger is out there competing to win.
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For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn’t account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can’t root for the guy. Enjoy
only half way thru the netflix documentary-it is fantastic!!
saw a side of humility in koepka that he hasn't shown
excellent take on joel dahmen and his quest to be the 70th best golfer- lots of behind the scene info
ian poulter is still a putz but another pov
jordie and justin was just fun
btw, tiger handing a tampon to JT at the genesis was just fun. those who found something to get riled up over?? get a life. we've lost all perspective on people just trying to laugh. if you're offended, look the other way. funny seeing someone "past his prime" showing up a dude still "in his prime" right mr lemon?
and they juxtapose all this with the LIV.
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Is anybody playing with new sticks this year? I am messing around with some 3 woods. Also thinking about getting a 7 wood to replace my 3 hybrid.
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Annika Sorenstam gave a skirt to Fred Funk when she outdrove him during one of those goofy golf events.
It doesn't offend me. I question the timing and the self awareness. Funny in Jupiter when they are having a casual round. There is no way this could have been missed. Ah, well.
Totally agree. Like I said, it wasn’t all that funny, but it was just a lack of self awareness and eye roll at worst. I saw a golf blogger say that it as “more offensive to woman than all of his misdeeds while married” which is just a wild take.
Is anybody playing with new sticks this year? I am messing around with some 3 woods. Also thinking about getting a 7 wood to replace my 3 hybrid.
What type of 3 wood do you prefer? Aesthetically while lining up I like the thinner head, flatter bottom, but I just can’t seem to hit them for anything compared to a beefier one.
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I am gaming a 6 year old Tour Edge Exotic 4 wood. I have been flirting with a Ping G 425. Selling them out because they are last year's model. At the standard 14.5 setting, it launches higher than the 16.5 TEE.
We are always looking for distance. I am equally interested in point-and-shoot ease of use. I have that with my TSi2 driver.
All a long way of saying that I am not monogomous to a brand or a look. I want something that flies the same (good) way 8 times out of 10.
If all things are equal, I would probably choose the lower profile face.
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I'm officially done with fairway woods. Dumped my 4 wood for a used 18 degree TaylorMade hybrid. Getting my putter regripped.. Going with a Traxion Pistol oversize grip. First time for an oversize grip for me.
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Thomas Pieters joins LIV. Was disgruntled he could not get an invite to Tigers Genesis tournament at Rivieria. Won 2012 NCAA tournament at Rivieria
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/thomas-pieters-liv-golf-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021823&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36731&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Herman
My guess is LIV is why he did not get an invite. Likely was passed over with the LIV rumor swirling.
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Tiger -4 today. Looking very good .
He’s back .
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Tiger -4 today. Looking very good .
He’s back .
I’ve come to cherish Herm’s blind consistency. And Tiger is absolutely back…11 shots back of the leaders
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I’ve come to cherish Herm’s blind consistency. And Tiger is absolutely back…11 shots back of the leaders
For now. Tiger’s essence on Sunday will make those guys forget if they are righty or lefty. 12 shots is nothing.
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Herman
I am with you 100%. Tiger is back!! Not as back as MU basketball, but back.
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For now. Tiger’s essence on Sunday will make those guys forget if they are righty or lefty. 12 shots is nothing.
Being top half of the field at the moment is impressive considering he hasn’t played competetively since July.
But Rahm is damn impressive at the moment
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And the number I’d set for Rahm majors is 1.5 in 2023
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Being top half of the field at the moment is impressive considering he hasn’t played competetively since July.
But Rahm is damn impressive at the moment
For sure. The fact he’s having a great third round is encouraging since usually the weekend is when his body can’t keep up.
It’s amazing he’s playing any competitive golf at all. I’m a big Tiger fan and would love to see him win another tournament. 4 high quality rounds seems a little out of reach for him physically.
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Rico
Rahm is playing fantastic golf. While I am an admitted Tiger groupie, if he finishes in Top 20, it will be an incredible accomplishment. I saw when he tee’d it up on Thursday it had been 844 days since he played in a non major.
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Rico
Rahm is playing fantastic golf. While I am an admitted Tiger groupie, if he finishes in Top 20, it will be an incredible accomplishment. I saw when he tee’d it up on Thursday it had been 844 days since he played in a non major.
If he finishes top-20, I wonder where his odds for Augusta go to
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Rico
Trust me, this sucker will be buying Tiger at Augusta.
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Rico
Trust me, this sucker will be buying Tiger at Augusta.
Get him now! 60 to 1
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All that money you'd think Tiger would take care of that bald spot somehow.
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When I was young and watching golf, long before I started playing golf, I remember Arnie. Mid 70's. In his 40's, and he had no real shot at winning, but the broadcasts always showed him even when he was 15 shots back.
I don't know if he will ever have the stamina to walk 4 straight days on a hilly course. But he will always move the needle.
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Tiger had a tough day today shot 73 . Finished -1 for tournament .
Pretty good for his first PGA Tour event in many months
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Tiger had a tough day today shot 73 . Finished -1 for tournament .
Pretty good for his first PGA Tour event in many months
From what we all saw over these four days, it'll be a mild surprise if he can win more than 3 majors this year.
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Excellent post round interview with Tiger. Seems like he is going to try and play all 4 majors if his body will allow it .
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tower
Like you, I have been a golf fan my entire life and I always loved to see Arnie, even in 15 back. What Arnie and Tiger have done for the sport is remarkable. I’ll admit, watching Tiger is still a thrill for me. I get why people do not understand all the coverage he gets, but I still love it.
I guess, when the tour players stop getting a thrill of Tiger playing I’ll follow suit. It seems to me that the young guys still love having a chance to play with Tiger.
Back to Arnie, the last time when he was at St. Andrews and was interviewed about being there still makes me tear up. A lifetime of giving to his profession and he felt like the lucky one. I miss Arnie.
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tower
Like you, I have been a golf fan my entire life and I always loved to see Arnie, even in 15 back. What Arnie and Tiger have done for the sport is remarkable. I’ll admit, watching Tiger is still a thrill for me. I get why people do not understand all the coverage he gets, but I still love it.
I guess, when the tour players stop getting a thrill of Tiger playing I’ll follow suit. It seems to me that the young guys still love having a chance to play with Tiger.
Back to Arnie, the last time when he was at St. Andrews and was interviewed about being there still makes me tear up. A lifetime of giving to his profession and he felt like the lucky one. I miss Arnie.
Golf missed Arnie
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I think Tiger Woods has been great for professional golf. I think he has been a HUGE missed opportunity for the sport of golf. Arnie's popularity brought golf to the people - corresponding with an explosion of interest in the sport at the same time municipalities were opening up courses. My dad used to tell me of the lines he had to deal with at Currie Park on a Saturday morning.
Tiger's emergence caused a lot of courses to be developed, but they were largely private or high-end public courses. Millennial and GenZ participation rates in the sport aren't great. Will they eventually pick it up? Who knows. Tiger should have been the guy to get people to the game - and that didn't really happen.
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Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
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When I was young and watching golf, long before I started playing golf, I remember Arnie. Mid 70's. In his 40's, and he had no real shot at winning, but the broadcasts always showed him even when he was 15 shots back.
I don't know if he will ever have the stamina to walk 4 straight days on a hilly course. But he will always move the needle.
I vividly remember Arnies last major that he was in contention in.
The 74 US Open at Winged Foot was a brutal set up . The Massacre at Winged Foot. The ABC broadcast focused on Arnie to the bitter end, even as the wheels had come off the Wagon many holes before the 18th. I was rooting hard for Arnie, but the course was just too extreme for him at that stage in his career .
The winner, Hale Irwin , shot 7 over par . Which I believe is still the highest over par a winner has shot in The Modern era of The US Open.
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Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
Tiger absolutely brought people to the game. I worked with people who took up golf because of Tiger.
It’s hard to grow the game. It’s not cheap and where it is cheap, pace of play is often a slog on weekends. Covid actually caused a massive boom. Will it sustain? We shall see
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Rico
Covid did create a boom, but I think it slowed down a bit last year. It seemed like getting a tee time was easier and rounds a bit quicker. The quicker rounds made me think there were less newer golfers playing. During Covid, it was a death match on our home track.
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Rico
Covid did create a boom, but I think it slowed down a bit last year. It seemed like getting a tee time was easier and rounds a bit quicker. The quicker rounds made me think there were less newer golfers playing. During Covid, it was a death match on our home track.
State of Wisconsin set a record for rounds played last year. Simulator golf business is booming, too.
I am a proponent of shrinking the game, tbh 😬
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Rico,
Simulators are jumping. I will say, we adjusted our normal tee times a bit last season. We enjoy playing one weekday after work and adjusted to early tee off on Thursday or Friday and got to work by 10:30. Adjusted weekend to mid morning instead of early morning. That might explain our quicker rounds.
Speaking of simulator, they are crazy expensive. I try to give my buddy business, but he is in the process of moving. The top joints are expensive.
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Rico,
Simulators are jumping. I will say, we adjusted our normal tee times a bit last season. We enjoy playing one weekday after work and adjusted to early tee off on Thursday or Friday and got to work by 10:30. Adjusted weekend to mid morning instead of early morning. That might explain our quicker rounds.
Speaking of simulator, they are crazy expensive. I try to give my buddy business, but he is in the process of moving. The top joints are expensive.
Afternoon/work rounds the last three years have been harder to find. I tend to play late on weekends, so my rounds usually moved fairly quick. Still, pace of play has increased quite a bit since covid.
I do a simulator once a week and between the “golf” and drinks, it ain’t a cheap night
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Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
I am one of the few people who used to golf, but dropped it during peak Tiger. I had too much going on as a parent of young kids that I just didn't want to devote the time. Never really had the desire to return.
Tiger definitely brought people to the game. But the people he brought to the game weren't exactly reflective of society at large and didn't really meet the expectations that some had at the beginning of his career. But maybe that's unfair. And Rico is right - it's hard to grow a game like golf.
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I do a simulator once a week and between the “golf” and drinks, it ain’t a cheap night
My experience was that nothing that ended with “and drinks” was.
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Arnie was good for golf. So was Tiger. Know what was better than either? Covid.
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Golf simulators are a big bubble ready to pop
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Arnie was good for golf. So was Tiger. Know what was better than either? Covid.
Not really.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191907/participants-in-golf-in-the-us-since-2006/
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I am one of the few people who used to golf, but dropped it during peak Tiger. I had too much going on as a parent of young kids that I just didn't want to devote the time. Never really had the desire to return.
Tiger definitely brought people to the game. But the people he brought to the game weren't exactly reflective of society at large and didn't really meet the expectations that some had at the beginning of his career. But maybe that's unfair. And Rico is right - it's hard to grow a game like golf.
I think the problem with Tiger was so many people that he brought to the game were Tiger fans, not golf/PGA fans.
That was great in his peak and prime, but didn't do much enduring. Same reason they lose their mind over any little thing he does these days or him in majors, cause they wouldn't be paying attention otherwise.
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Not really.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191907/participants-in-golf-in-the-us-since-2006/
Try getting a membership at any decent country club these days. There are long waiting lists. Wasn't that way before Covid.
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Try getting a membership at any decent country club these days. There are long waiting lists. Wasn't that way before Covid.
Lots of high caliber clubs in Chicagoland looking for members.
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Lots of high caliber clubs in Chicagoland looking for members.
In Florida it is tough. Maybe in Chicago cause every one is leaving.
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In Florida it is tough. Maybe in Chicago cause every one is leaving.
The crime. It’s unsustainable, uncontainable.
Can’t believe the amount of people leaving golf clubs in Illinois that are significantly better then almost everything in Florida.
It’s a true shame, vote Republican to save Chicago.
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Bryson "DeCharcuterie" body has been repaired
https://www.livgolf.com/news/after-surgery-solve-his-vertigo-bryson-dechambeau-back-to-2018-self
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Does that solve his gallery rope problem?
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First round in for the year. Shipyard Golf in Hilton Head. 39-46. Wish I could say the beer did me in on the back, but not a beer cart to be seen. Good weather, but pretty brown fairways. Beats the office though!
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Your year is off to a solid start.
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First round in for the year. Shipyard Golf in Hilton Head. 39-46. Wish I could say the beer did me in on the back, but not a beer cart to be seen. Good weather, but pretty brown fairways. Beats the office though!
Solid round . Hilton Head is a great place .
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Haven't been to Hilton Head, but jealous. I'm biding my time with sim golf, which is okay but I can't wait to play outside. Fingers crossed the MU somehow ends up in Orlando....would be good for my fandom and my golf game.
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Is anyone watching Full Swing?
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Just watched episode 1. I will be watching the rest.
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LIV Golf starting season today on Mexico. Friday rounds on CW App. Saturday and Sunday on CW Broadcast
Same production values and announcers as last year . They show a lot of shots .
Seems like the Players are all enjoying themselves .
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A lot of money in hand and not much competition. Plus, they have been told to act like they are enjoying themselves.
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Watching LIV CW Broadcast. They have a few advertisers , mostly local but a few National . Promoting Prime time shows on their network.
Greg Norman riding around course on a Bicycle……
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I am watching professional golf. Admittedly partial to stocky Irish guys. Go Shane!
So, I flip to LIV for 10 seconds. Feherty is clearly telling a hell of a story. No sound. A sign from the universe.
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LIV Golfers aren’t independent contractors
https://twitter.com/jnucci23/status/1629547910047178752?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
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Maybe I couldn't hear the announcers over the crowd noise.
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https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1629584965842407424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1629584965842407424%7Ctwgr%5Edaee33a0207e013cb1166b7003ca9bfb7fff42d8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fsports%2Fgolfer-akshay-bhatia-strips-down-two-shots-mud-honda-classic
for beer money
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LIV Golfers aren’t independent contractors
https://twitter.com/jnucci23/status/1629547910047178752?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
It looks like this is more restrictive than the PGA Tour. I chuckle at the mandatory events because of how many made that a big point when they left.
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https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj/status/1629895774870855680?s=46&t=poCSbnUB6g5YBFCm8GbhqA
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David Feherty is unedited on LIV Broadcast, having a good time.
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Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
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Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
Riveting
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Chris Kirk wins for the first time in 8-years, holding off Eric Cole, a 34 year-old rookie whose mother is Laura Baugh.
If you know the Kirk story, this is a great win. Crowd into it despite the weak field.
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Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late ‘70’s. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
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Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
A showcase of the stars.
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Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late ‘70’s. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
Her story is something else, too.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/myshot_gd0401/amp
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Rico
I never stopped following her, and yes, her story is something else. I have promised myself I would get a golf lesson from her prior to her retiring. She was looking pretty damn good on TV today for being 67y.
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Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late ‘70’s. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
Laura Baugh created a lot of interest in the woman’s tour back in the day. Is still a teaching pro
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sports/pga/2015/12/14/laura-baugh-begins-next-chapter-golf-life-sawgrass-cc/15692272007/
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Chris Kirk wins for the first time in 8-years, holding off Eric Cole, a 34 year-old rookie whose mother is Laura Baugh.
If you know the Kirk story, this is a great win. Crowd into it despite the weak field.
i'm familiar with the chris kirk story and it's a helluva testament to the Big Guy in the sky and the PGA to allow him to get better and return to a great game. the win also gave him a ticket into the masters-double bonus!!
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shoot, just read about laura baugh, her story and eric cole. what an interesting dynamic between him and chris kirk' story. always great to hear good stuff
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Went to the golf expo today in Rosemont. Kinda interesting, actually lots of great deals on clubs, just no place to hit them.
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Went to the golf expo today in Rosemont. Kinda interesting, actually lots of great deals on clubs, just no place to hit them.
A cesspool unlike any other.
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Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
LIV continues to push the idea that fans care how much money these guys are playing for. Sports fans don't care. I continue to be stunned by just how terrible the LIV product is and my expectations for LIV were basement-level to start with.
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RJax
I agree on the size of purse and LIV sucks. I love golf and put it on several times this weekend and turned it off within minutes both times. I do not understand why they believe the purse size will add to the excitement. Not that I care, but the constant money/purse hype could be a turn off for some fans.
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Think I saw that the LIV ratings for the weekend were like 0.1
Not exactly getting eyes…
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Think I saw that the LIV ratings for the weekend were like 0.1
Not exactly getting eyes…
Many of the CW affiliates in major markets - Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Francisco, Tampa, Seattle, Detroit and Pittsburgh included - aren't even showing it.
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RJax
I agree on the size of purse and LIV sucks. I love golf and put it on several times this weekend and turned it off within minutes both times. I do not understand why they believe the purse size will add to the excitement. Not that I care, but the constant money/purse hype could be a turn off for some fans.
If anything, the obscenity of the money turns people off. Guys are getting guaranteed money and playing for whatever the purses are.
The appeal of the “matches” was never Tiger and FIGJAM playing for whatever dollars, but the golf matchup.
They think team golf is a drawing point, too. It simply isn’t and certainly won’t be if the teams keep changing.
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If anything, the obscenity of the money turns people off. Guys are getting guaranteed money and playing for whatever the purses are.
The appeal of the “matches” was never Tiger and FIGJAM playing for whatever dollars, but the golf matchup.
They think team golf is a drawing point, too. It simply isn’t and certainly won’t be if the teams keep changing.
LIV needs to keep emphasizing Paulina….
https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/paulina-gretzky-models-bold-bikini-as-liv-golf-mexico-wraps/
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LIV needs to keep emphasizing Paulina….
https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/paulina-gretzky-models-bold-bikini-as-liv-golf-mexico-wraps/
Why? So old perverts can masterbate?
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Why? So old perverts can masterbate?
Come on, it’s Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
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Come on, it’s Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
He needs to get laid
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Gross. Necrophilia. He's dead.
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Come on, it’s Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
Quite the list.
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i have a feeling both are going to suffer in their own ways-
LIV for lack of ratings because the fans won't feel the competive juice
PGA for lack of ratings/no real star power to relate to, no real magnate to draw people in
conclusion-seth waugh and jay monahan are going to have to hold their noses and maybe a few other appendages and get together with stormin norman and figure something out for the good of the game
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Rocket
I believe that the PGA will bury Liv before they need to come together. I believe Liv will ultimately cave from within when Uber rich stars get tired of the format. At this moment, there really is nothing appealing to me coming from Liv and I will watch any golf on TV.
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Come on, it’s Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
Not to mention he's the guy who said it's a good idea to intentionally get young womren drunk so he can have unprotected sex with them
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i have a feeling both are going to suffer in their own ways-
LIV for lack of ratings because the fans won't feel the competive juice
PGA for lack of ratings/no real star power to relate to, no real magnate to draw people in
conclusion-seth waugh and jay monahan are going to have to hold their noses and maybe a few other appendages and get together with stormin norman and figure something out for the good of the game
The Tour pulled in over two million viewers for a Sunday finish in a tournament that was billed as "second rate" since the big guys were playing at Seminole for a pro-am.
Bizarre thing to write that the Tour lacks ratings and star power.
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The Tour pulled in over two million viewers for a Sunday finish in a tournament that was billed as "second rate" since the big guys were playing at Seminole for a pro-am.
Bizarre thing to write that the Tour lacks ratings and star power.
I also think a player is much more likely to develop into a star on the PGA than LIV.
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I also think a player is much more likely to develop into a star on the PGA than LIV.
Hard to be a star when no one is watching you
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LIV.... where players on the tail end of their relevancy go to play. Surprised Duffner and Fowler haven't joined. Unless the talent pool increases, I wont' watch. Norman is also an insufferable prick so between he and Phil, i'm almost rooting for the LIV downfall
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CW Network pleased with LIV debut . CE Affiliates who elected to carry The Broadcast were able to sell ads . Ratings are roughly equal to an FS1 Big East lower tier game.
https://golf.com/news/how-liv-golf-ratings-fared-network-tv-debut-cw/?amp=1
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CW Network pleased with LIV debut . CE Affiliates who elected to carry The Broadcast were able to sell ads . Ratings are roughly equal to an FS1 Big East lower tier game.
https://golf.com/news/how-liv-golf-ratings-fared-network-tv-debut-cw/?amp=1
Huge win
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Huge win
Yep. When this all started, Greg Norman was dreaming of the day that they could get DePaul v. Butler-like ratings.
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Huge win
Gigantic.....
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3458086/liv-golfs-tv-ratings-last-weekend-fell-85percent-short-of-the-pga-tours-honda-classic-draw-with-more-people-watching-worlds-funniest-animals
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Gigantic.....
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3458086/liv-golfs-tv-ratings-last-weekend-fell-85percent-short-of-the-pga-tours-honda-classic-draw-with-more-people-watching-worlds-funniest-animals
To be fair, Greg Norman and Sundays have always had a complicated relationship
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Rahm is a menace
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LIV had a relegation system this year similar to Soccer .
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-league-promotion-relegation-plans/
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Yup. Building golf.
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LIV had a relegation system this year similar to Soccer .
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-league-promotion-relegation-plans/
Well, it’s relegation if you don’t have a guranteed contract.
Sounds like the Saudi’s aren’t too happy with the returns on investment and lawsuit results.
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Rahm is a menace
Uncle Rico jinx. ;D
I think he will be ok.
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Uncle Rico jinx. ;D
I think he will be ok.
This is a Ludvig Aberg fan account
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this was kind of weird...while LSU player was putting a long putt, the opposing player walked thru her line after the ball had passed, but before it had finished rolling in which it went in. either the opposing player was ignorant of the "unwritten rule" or just downright rude.
you make the call...
https://thecomeback.com/golf/college-golfer-walking-putters-line.html
on another note, it's pretty cool darius rucker has a tournament named after him. he's a great guy and a pretty good golfer too
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No Tiger in The Players. Too bad , we have tickets for The Final round . Was hoping to see a shootout with him and Rory down the stretch.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/03/2023-players-championship-tiger-woods-not-playing/
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No Tiger in The Players. Too bad , we have tickets for The Final round . Was hoping to see a shootout with him and Rory down the stretch.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/03/2023-players-championship-tiger-woods-not-playing/
For what? 57th place?
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For what? 57th place?
It's performance theater by 9-9-9 ... and not bad performance theater, either.
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Loss for the Wisconsin golf community
https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/swing-instructor-david-rasmussen-whose-students-comprised-a-whos-who-of-wisconsin-golf-dies-after/article_416e61f6-b9d6-11ed-8e75-eb541b25d6f0.html
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Dave Rasmussen was a great teacher and ahead of his time in the MKE area. Getting to see him was extremely tough and his fee was well beyond any local pro. I remember having to cancel an "appointment" on short notice and was charged and put on probation for further lessons. Sad to hear of his passing. I have some good memories of spending time with Dave.
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Loss for the Wisconsin golf community
https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/swing-instructor-david-rasmussen-whose-students-comprised-a-whos-who-of-wisconsin-golf-dies-after/article_416e61f6-b9d6-11ed-8e75-eb541b25d6f0.html
I never knew much of Rasmussen when I was younger, but I remember my BIL saying, in one of our first convos, in the golf pro community, when it came to Wisconsin, everyone knew 2 names. Manuel de la Torre and Dave Rasmussen.
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Interesting interview with James Piot , former MSU Golfer who won US Amateur, and why he chose LIV.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/journeys-james-piot-no-sponsors-liv-golf-michigan-state?utm_medium=email&utm_source=030423&utm_campaign=gdplus&utm_content=DM37154&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Interesting interview with James Piot , former MSU Golfer who won US Amateur, and why he chose LIV.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/journeys-james-piot-no-sponsors-liv-golf-michigan-state?utm_medium=email&utm_source=030423&utm_campaign=gdplus&utm_content=DM37154&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Bit of an odd article. A lot of “I thinks” about specifics in the contract. He could have just said, “it’s nice to have a guaranteed paycheck right away.”
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Bay Hill gone wild
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Going to be a good finish. Although everyone seems to be going backwards
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Putting like scoopers.
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Kurt Kitayama has as many titles on American soil as his fellow Chico, CA native Aaron Rodgers. Is he the best athlete to ever come out of Chico? Many people are saying
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Kitayama was All-State in basketball. Pretty impressive for a guy that’s 5’7”. Impressed how he hung in there after a triple bogey on 9 in the face of Spieth, McIlroy, and Schefler.
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Kitayama was All-State in basketball. Pretty impressive for a guy that’s 5’7”. Impressed how he hung in there after a triple bogey on 9 in the face of Spieth, McIlroy, and Schefler.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/2023-arnold-palmer-invitational-leaderboard-kurt-kitayama-outlasts-rory-mcilroy-for-first-pga-tour-win/live/
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Muggy should be excited and inspired.
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Any Scoopers going to The Players Championship this week? weather is looking good so I am thinking about going Sunday. Hopefully rooting Rory on to Victory .
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LIV Golf gets first sponsor .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tournament-sponsor-2023#:~:text=LIV%20Golf%20has%20announced%20its,the%20LIV%20Golf%20Singapore%20event.
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LIV Golf gets first sponsor .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tournament-sponsor-2023#:~:text=LIV%20Golf%20has%20announced%20its,the%20LIV%20Golf%20Singapore%20event.
🤣
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Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
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took spieth, horschel, bradley, hovland, zalatoris, and fowler in my fanduel. would love to see rickie break thru and rise to the top. bradley's been flirting
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Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
She wants out of the NDA.
https://apnews.com/article/tiger-woods-girlfriend-nda-harassment-lawsuit-bd048e8fcc6981e3c67cdb6ae91a0a36?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=March9a_MorningWire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers
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Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
Perhaps there can be a new Page Six thread where these types of posts can be funneled.
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It's in the Superbar. What more do you want?
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It's in the Superbar. What more do you want?
This is the golf thread. I have zero problem with anyone starting a Page Six thread.
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7 rounds in already this year in Michigan. God bless global warming.
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The tours new strategy may have some unintended consequences . Players not making the upper tier may be encouraged to go to LIV
Players had meeting to discuss.
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-players-control-meeting-changes/?amp=1
Comments about potential exodus
https://golf.com/news/theyve-opened-themselves-up-tour-changes-liv-exodus/?amp=1
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The tours new strategy may have some unintended consequences . Players not making the upper tier may be encouraged to go to LIV
Players had meeting to discuss.
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-players-control-meeting-changes/?amp=1
Comments about potential exodus
https://golf.com/news/theyve-opened-themselves-up-tour-changes-liv-exodus/?amp=1
LIV is a good spot for players afraid of getting better
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Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
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Morikowa had an excellent opening round. I enjoy watching him strike the ball.
https://golf.com/news/collin-morikawa-sentence-competition-afraid/?amp=1
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Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
Worse than that, I took Rory in my one and done pool.
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Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
I'll be out there today, i pass along your encouragement.
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Chad Ramey got it to -9 and then dunked 2 on 17. Has Zalatoris old caddie on the bag
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The wind is picking up. Potential carnage this afternoon.
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The wind is picking up. Potential carnage this afternoon.
Damn
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Thunderstorms. Course will be soaked.
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https://golf.com/news/10-golfers-missed-cut-2023-players-championship/?amp=1
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Was that on the CW?
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Was that on the CW?
No
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So....in the event that Marquette makes it to the Final Four in Houston, does anyone want to meet and play a couple rounds of golf down there in between games??
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At The Players . Wind starting to come in. Watched a bit in a box at 17 now heading to the course to follow my guy Morikowa a bit
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Follow Hatton around. The self loathing commentary is wildly entertaining.
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Follow Hatton around. The self loathing commentary is wildly entertaining.
Followed a couple of Scheffler holes. The guy is a machine
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Watched Scheffler step up to the 17th with the wind blowing and put it close . A very talented player who will continue to b a factor in all the majors.
Was a fun day , but the event this year seemed more like a regular tour event than in years past .
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Watched Scheffler step up to the 17th with the wind blowing and put it close . A very talented player who will continue to b a factor in all the majors.
Was a fun day , but the event this year seemed more like a regular tour event than in years past .
Scheffler sucked the air out of the arena
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/fred-couples-calls-phil-mickelson-nutbag-sergio-garcia-clown-speech-for-the-ages/amp
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Phil's team in Second Place in LIV after second round. Should be a fun final day in Tucson.
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Phil's team in Second Place in LIV after second round. Should be a fun final day in Tucson.
Far better golf at Valspar.
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Far better golf at Valspar.
Innisbrook Copperhead Course always one of the tougher layouts on The PGA Tour.
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Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can’t wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
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My BIL is good friends with and de-facto swing coach for Cody Gribble. Gribble was on the UT team with Spieth that won the NCAA in 2012, but not much since then. Very much a journeyman, won a tourney in 2017 but hasn’t had a card since 2017-2018. Had some major shoulder injuries and surgeries so he missed most of 2019-2021. He’s back playing Korn Ferry and PGA events here and there. He finished top 10 in a weak Puerto Rico Open two weeks ago but now he’s sitting 2 back at the Valspar and shouted out my BIL by name in his interview after his round on Friday for helping him with his swing.
He also owes my BIL a bunch of deferred money from services rendered so my sister has been updating us nearly hole by hole ;D ;D
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Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can’t wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
Here is a good list. I like to try the courses the Pros play on tour just to see what they are up against.
https://www.golfdigest.com/places-to-play/collections/best-public-golf-courses-palm-springs
If you have some golfing connections, try to play Thunderbird Country Club. Club and Course has a lot of history. Ford named The Thunderbird after the Club.
https://www.thunderbirdcc.org/
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I have played many beautiful golf courses in this country over the years and took a trip to Palm Springs some years ago.
I can honestly say that besides Oakmont (history/difficulty), the most beautiful course was the Mountain Course at LaQuinta. It runs through the mountains and everything was perfection.
Stayed at LaQuinta Resort onsite and that was also first class. Played all the courses at PGA West and they were great also. PGA West course was a beast.
Enjoy your trip, myself and friends had wonderful time there.
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I have played many beautiful golf courses in this country over the years and took a trip to Palm Springs some years ago.
I can honestly say that besides Oakmont (history/difficulty), the most beautiful course was the Mountain Course at LaQuinta. It runs through the mountains and everything was perfection.
Stayed at LaQuinta Resort onsite and that was also first class. Played all the courses at PGA West and they were great also. PGA West course was a beast.
Enjoy your trip, myself and friends had wonderful time there.
Based on pictures the mountain course looks like it needs to be at the top of my list. Staying at an Airbnb in la Quinta just south of the resort. Only question is how many mornings the wife lets me golf but I have at least 2 mornings. She might ride along on the mountain course to take in the views.
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Based on pictures the mountain course looks like it needs to be at the top of my list. Staying at an Airbnb in la Quinta just south of the resort. Only question is how many mornings the wife lets me golf but I have at least 2 mornings. She might ride along on the mountain course to take in the views.
Can’t go wrong with Mountain or Nicklaus at PGA West.
Only two days, then mandatory PGA West Stadium Course. That’s the famous one and a beast. PGA West is huge complex and clubhouse.
On side note, if interested, at LaQuinta Resort is a fantastic Mexican restaurant called Adobe Grill, has indoor as well as outdoor balcony seating, overlooking the courtyard. Terrific food and Resort is nice and quaint.
Enjoy
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Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can’t wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
Looking forward to your report. I play a set of JPX 825s which I like very much. I was poking around at the golf store while getting my putter regripped and saw the 923s. Good looking irons. Definitely looked like something I could move up to some day. Since I'm 2 degrees upright it's kind of a pain to buy new irons.
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Danny Lee wins LIV Golf event , putted in from off the green to win Playoff
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637595517298556928
Sergio Garcia's Fireballs GC team won the Team Event
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637602173252169728?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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I was waiting for Tower's report! :)
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I would rather watch a season package of Wisconsin basketball highlights than LIV golf.
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I hope Herm is collecting a check from Norman to pimp LIV golf here. Something for the effort.
CH III and Danny Lee. My gosh, these are exactly the exciting winners that LIV promised us. The stars are shining.
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I hope Herm is collecting a check from Norman to pimp LIV golf here. Something for the effort.
CH III and Danny Lee. My gosh, these are exactly the exciting winners that LIV promised us. The stars are shining.
Guys that couldn’t buy wins on the tour. Huh
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Danny Lee wins LIV Golf event , putted in from off the green to win Playoff
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637595517298556928
Sergio Garcia's Fireballs GC team won the Team Event
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637602173252169728?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
It's a huge hit with the people.
According to a report from Kevin Van Valkenburg of the golf site No Laying Up, LIV posted a dismal 0.14 rating for second round coverage of its event in Tucson on Saturday across 33 metered markets on the CW network. That’s down even from the 0.2 LIV reportedly notched for its season-opening event in Mexico three weeks ago.
https://www.mediaite.com/sports/saudi-backed-liv-golf-reportedly-tanks-in-the-nielsens-again-notching-abysmal-14-rating/
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Just wait. LIV heads overseas in April for events in Australia and Singapore. The ratings for those events will be something.
LIV really needs their stars to perform well at the Masters.
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It feels like Hermie is financially invested in LIV's success.
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It feels like Hermie is financially invested in LIV's success.
I have a flamethrower if he wants to waste it faster
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Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
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Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
Doesn’t sound like Sergio. He’s a world class gentleman on the golf course
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Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
Fred has not been holding back.
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Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
They say All PR is good PR even if it pisses some people off........
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I would rather watch a season package of Wisconsin basketball highlights than LIV golf.
No big sacrifice on your part. The highlights only take up about 2 minutes. Or in Pitino's case...a New York minute, aina?
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Pure filth
https://twitter.com/actiongolfhq/status/1639052448261353472?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Pure filth
https://twitter.com/actiongolfhq/status/1639052448261353472?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It is drives like this that prompted,Tiger t0 train his son Charlie to replicate Rory’s swing.
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Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
must be another one of those "perks" of LIV come on man! who hasn't done this ;)
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Brooks Koepka wins LIV event in Orlando. Second LIV win. Seems healthy and in good form heading into Masters.
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Cantlay with an 82-esque chip on 14 at Harbour Town.
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Heck of a finish in Sea Pines.
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Rory not missed.
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Cantlay needs to sign with LIV so I don’t have to watch him
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Cantlay needs to sign with LIV so I don’t have to watch him
LOL. He isn't exactly Speedy Gonzales. At some point it gets annoying for sure.
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LOL. He isn't exactly Speedy Gonzales. At some point it gets annoying for sure.
Billy Foster thinks so
https://twitter.com/pemulroe/status/1647714706591735809?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Clutch shot by Fitz on 17.
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Not a clutch putt by Spieth.
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Not a clutch putt by Fitzmagic
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Spieth gacked in the save.
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Overtime.
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Can't keep missing putts. Happy for Matt. If nothing else, to silence the clowns.
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Can't keep missing putts. Happy for Matt. If nothing else, to silence the clowns.
Big Ten legend
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Great win for Fitzpatrick. I thought there were a few fans that behaved like morons frankly.
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We agree.
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We agree.
I love the club head speed Fitz generates. He's also fast in his overall play which is refreshing. He seemed a bit annoyed with Cantlay's molasses pace.
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He wasn't impressed with Spieth's existential angst, either.
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He wasn't impressed with Spieth's existential angst, either.
Good point.
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Happy to see Fitzpatrick win . Seems like a solid young guy.
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Cantlay with an 82-esque chip on 14 at Harbour Town.
Um … memorable?
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Happy to see Fitzpatrick win . Seems like a solid young guy.
he was featured in episode 5 netflix full swing-seemed younger than his age, although only 28, but seemed younger-seems like a fine bloke
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former MU golfer standout, hunter eichhorn made the cut in his first korn ferry tour event T60 and shot a 5 under par 66-69-74-70 at veritex bank championship at texas rangers golf club in arlington, texas
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-announces-ankle-fusion-surgery-likely-to-miss-rest-of-2023-majors/amp
Tiger has yet another surgery, this one almost certainly ending any likelihood of playing again in 2023. We may have reached the end game on his career
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-announces-ankle-fusion-surgery-likely-to-miss-rest-of-2023-majors/amp
Tiger has yet another surgery, this one almost certainly ending any likelihood of playing again in 2023. We may have reached the end game on his career
I am thinking it may revive his greatness. Just like the back fusion did. Although maybe all it does is make day to day living easier .
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I'm thinking Tiger beats Jack's record for majors by the end of the 2024 season, and then goes on to put it out of reach.
30 is a nice, round number.
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I am thinking it may revive his greatness. Just like the back fusion did. Although maybe all it does is make day to day living easier .
I mean, he won’t be able to bend or twist his right ankle, but sure, it’ll revive his greatness
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Is part of the LIV allure guys going low? Seeing a guy like Talor Gooch go 20 under in 2 rounds for a 10 shot lead doesn’t seem super entertaining to me.
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Is part of the LIV allure guys going low? Seeing a guy like Talor Gooch go 20 under in 2 rounds for a 10 shot lead doesn’t seem super entertaining to me.
The LIV Courses have generally been set up like a regular PGA Tour event . I haven’t watched any of this weeks event in Australia, where wind , or lack thereof,is usually a big element . I think Gooch is just having a very good tournament .
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The LIV Courses have generally been set up like a regular PGA Tour event . I haven’t watched any of this weeks event in Australia, where wind , or lack thereof,is usually a big element . I think Gooch is just having a very good tournament .
They’re playing garbage courses. Like Greg Norman, the tour is a joke. It’s a place for Trumpers to watch golf
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Gooch cooled off shot one over today, won by 3 .
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And nobody watched or cared.
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And nobody watched or cared.
Big crowds in Australia
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/liv-golf-adelaide-insane-queue-29777714.amp
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Lenny should be pleased.
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Lenny should be pleased.
I couldn’t care less. Did it make you angry?
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I assumed Nick Hardy getting a win would please you. But you do you. Thanks for the laugh.
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I assumed Nick Hardy getting a win would please you. But you do you. Thanks for the laugh.
My apologies, Tower. I thought you were implying I was a pro LIV guy.
Very excited for Nick. Thanks for the shout out!
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All good. I did not specifically include a reference to your guy in my post. I assumed it was a given due to timing and circumstance. Oops. Moving on.
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Crazy Scene , at the watering hole,after Hole in one at LIV golf in Australia
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfUpdates/status/1649981131469488128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1649981131469488128%7Ctwgr%5E4c0173fdf5433d0c064ab328ca9e532c2350efca%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-34326701541786741892.ampproject.net%2F2304062309000%2Fframe.html
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So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
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So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
Pat Perez in shambles. Literally. He’s like 71% plastic
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So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
https://sports.yahoo.com/founder-bob-parsons-says-pxg-151514300.html
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https://sports.yahoo.com/founder-bob-parsons-says-pxg-151514300.html
creates a vacuum for anheuser-busch eyn'a?
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Gooch and Garcia lead packed LIV leaderboard in Singapore . Tape delay action on CWNetwork between 1 and 6 pm eastern
https://sports.yahoo.com/leaderboard-liv-golf-singapore-remains-112427237.html
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I have toenail lint to alphabetize.
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I have toenail lint to alphabetize.
Taped delay on the CW. No world ranking points. Not eligible for majors. Washed up fields with guys that are never was and never will bes and players who would be limping to the senior tour. Greg Norman lied to all these players. The league is playing second rate dumps or places where the Saudi’s have business relationships
You could watch that or watch the ladies play Wilshire. Easy choice.
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Yeah, it’s not great that the Saudis helped pay for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But at least they didn’t do something REALLY horrible and anti-American like use a trans person in an ad.
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Yeah, it’s not great that the Saudis helped pay for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But at least they didn’t do something REALLY horrible and anti-American like use a trans person in an ad.
No, the Saudi’s just kill them
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So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
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Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
Their drivers are notoriously bad.
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Talor Gooch wins second straight LIV event. Birdies playoff hole to beat Sergio Garcia. Gooch has earned a little over $9 million the last two weeks. Good work if you can get it
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-singapore-gooch-goes-back-to-back-rangegoats-win-team-title
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Can't believe most of the golf-watching world is missing the rise of The Great Taylor Gooch.
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The Great Taylor Gooch.
The Great Talor Gooch
It’s Tah-lore.
He was making a name for himself prior to LIV, won RSM, T5 at the Players, top 20s at the Masters and PGA.
Too bad.
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The Great Talor Gooch
It’s Tah-lore.
He was making a name for himself prior to LIV, won RSM, T5 at the Players, top 20s at the Masters and PGA.
Too bad.
He’s also one of the dumbest golfers in the world. He believed the lies peddled by Norman and has on more than one occasion been surprised his choice has had negative consequences.
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So Gooch really tainted his legacy?
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Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
I bought one last year when they were having a fire sale. Think I paid something like $229. Figured even if I didn’t like it I’d give it to my nephew. Also bought a driving iron.
The driver is super light. Makes a very weird sound on contact. Almost tinny. So far I’ve been pleased. Keep in mind I hadn’t bought a new driver for probably 5/6 years so I’m not sure how it would compare to the other drivers. The driving iron is great. The only con is that it is quite heavy so unless your swing speed is pretty significant it could be problematic. There was definitely a learning curve with it.
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He’s also one of the dumbest golfers in the world. He believed the lies peddled by Norman and has on more than one occasion been surprised his choice has had negative consequences.
“Yeah absolutely I haven't played a Ryder Cup or Presidents Cup, but I can't imagine there's a whole hell of a lot of difference.' - Talor Gooch
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I bought one last year when they were having a fire sale. Think I paid something like $229. Figured even if I didn’t like it I’d give it to my nephew. Also bought a driving iron.
The driver is super light. Makes a very weird sound on contact. Almost tinny. So far I’ve been pleased. Keep in mind I hadn’t bought a new driver for probably 5/6 years so I’m not sure how it would compare to the other drivers. The driving iron is great. The only con is that it is quite heavy so unless your swing speed is pretty significant it could be problematic. There was definitely a learning curve with it.
Awesome thanks
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My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
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My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Is the golf on CW?
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My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Been a big fan of driving irons lately. Have a 2 and 4. Hitting them well indoors… on course not so much.
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love the rogue hybrids. swung the ping and rogue together out on the range and the rogue just felt more balanced to me
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My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Let me know when that 7 wood gets ya down ta 22 putts/rd, hey?
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Never been that low. And the point of 7 wood is to hit greens from 200-210 (2 putts) instead of missing greens but getting up and down. (1putt) So, hopefully 1-2 more putts.
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heheh
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love the rogue hybrids. swung the ping and rogue together out on the range and the rogue just felt more balanced to me
My rogue 4 hybrid is my favorite club.
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LPGA at Harding Park with a team event. Great match play course. Played it in 2019. Interesting history for the course
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LPGA at Harding Park with a team event. Great match play course. Played it in 2019. Interesting history for the course
Ladies playing some historic courses the last few weeks. That's a good thing.
Tiger beat Daly in a playoff at Harding many years ago when both were bombing the ball. Was fun watching them down the stretch.
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Ladies playing some historic courses the last few weeks. That's a good thing.
Tiger beat Daly in a playoff at Harding many years ago when both were bombing the ball. Was fun watching them down the stretch.
Was that at Harding Park? Didn’t realize that.
Can’t wait to see them at Baltusrol, Pebble and Walton Heath this year. They’re coming to Erin Hills in 2025. Looking forward to that
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5th year illinois golfer, tommy kuhl, after shooting a 62 at local us open qualifier, disqualified himself for fixing aerated marks on the green.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-golf-star-disqualifies-himself-us-open-qualifier-felt-sick-my-stomach?dicbo=v2-oaPR0VL
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5th year illinois golfer, tommy kuhl, after shooting a 62 at local us open qualifier, disqualified himself for fixing aerated marks on the green.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-golf-star-disqualifies-himself-us-open-qualifier-felt-sick-my-stomach?dicbo=v2-oaPR0VL
That honor system is the beauty of high level golf.
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That honor system is the beauty of high level golf.
Brooks Koepka could learn something from this kid
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Brooks Koepka could learn something from this kid
Psh.
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Patrick Reed shakes his head and counts his money.
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14,000 at LIV in Tulsa today. More expected on Weekend.
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfNation/status/1657145514557579264/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1657145514557579264¤tTweetUser=LIVGolfNation
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14,000 at LIV in Tulsa today. More expected on Weekend.
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfNation/status/1657145514557579264/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1657145514557579264¤tTweetUser=LIVGolfNation
Congrats 9-9-9. You sure do love your Blood Money Tour!
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this is just nasty-el campeon golf course in florida-div III tournament had to cancel due to difficulty of hole-almost like a sick joke-
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa-cancels-third-round-division-iii-womens-golf-championship-over-unplayable-hole
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Pins were set by the NCAA, not the club. Poor thought process.
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Congrats 9-9-9. You sure do love your Blood Money Tour!
Also, those numbers aren’t real
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Jason Day ends drought and wins ATT Byron Nelson. Fantastic win for Jason.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/jason-day-att-byron-nelson-win-ends-five-year-winless-streak/amp
Dustin Johnson wins LIV Tulsa in playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/14/dustin-johnson-wins-2023-liv-golf-tulsa-in-playoff-cameron-smith/
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LIV Oops CW switched the show right in middle of playoff….
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-cw-switched-off-liv-golf-big-sunday-finish-incredible-list-tv-programs-seen-instead?utm_medium=email&utm_source=051523&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM39805&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Local channels wanted to boost their ratings.
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Heidi revisited!
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Heidi revisited!
AFL was the LIV of its day…..
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A rival that ultimately that ultimately folded after a short run.
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A rival that ultimately that ultimately folded after a short run.
AFL merged with NFL. Owners of those franchises made out very well.
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AFL merged with NFL. Owners of those franchises made out very well.
The NFL won. Al Davis spent the rest of his life fighting the NFL after his fellow owners negotiated behind his back.
Huh
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AFL was the LIV of its day…..
More like the USFL (except that the USFL had games televised on a real network).
Maybe LIV will sue successfully and get treble damages -- 3 whole dollars! -- just like the USFL did before it goes under.
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More like the USFL.
Maybe LIV will sue successfully and get treble damages -- 3 whole dollars! -- just like the USFL did before it goes under.
I think calling it the USFL is giving LIV too much credit. Maybe the World Football League is more apt.
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I think calling it the USFL is giving LIV too much credit. Maybe the World Football League is more apt.
Is Pat Perez the Toronto Northmen Memphis Southmen?
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Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
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Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
Bad news for the greenskeeper at LACC
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Hopefully he has finally outgrown hocking loogies into the cups.
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Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
Some commentary from Sergio on his round and vocabulary.
https://golf.com/news/sergio-garcia-qualifies-us-open/?amp=1
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It'll be inspiring to watch Sergio finish tied for 48th (if he makes the cut).
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It'll be inspiring to watch Sergio finish tied for 48th (if he makes the cut).
He’s a loser
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Excellent interview with Claude Harmon III
Gives his perspective on LIV , PGA Tour and the Media
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-brooks-koepka-coach-blasts-media/
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Excellent interview with Claude Harmon III
Gives his perspective on LIV , PGA Tour and the Media
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-brooks-koepka-coach-blasts-media/
He’s an idiot and proved it in this interview
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That’s enough Michael Block airtime
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Harrington attributes Double Bogey to pee break
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/Padraig-harrington-costly-bathroom-break-senior-pga-championship?utm_medium=email&utm_source=051423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM39703&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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They can't just find a tree. Particularly on a course with few trees.
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That hole is bad luck for Padraig. Brained a spectator today.
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The commercial for Harbor Shores golf course (is that a network commercial or a local commercial? Anyway...) has an egregious error in it. It says Harbor Shores is on the southWEST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the SouthEAST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the southwest shore of Michigan.
Beautiful course. Amazing back story.
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Harrington screwed up the playoff, although made a nice attempt on the fourth shot
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The commercial for Harbor Shores golf course (is that a network commercial or a local commercial? Anyway...) has an egregious error in it. It says Harbor Shores is on the southWEST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the SouthEAST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the southwest shore of Michigan.
Beautiful course. Amazing back story.
Routing always looks questionable, what’s the story?
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Routing always looks questionable, what’s the story?
https://www.harborshoresresort.com/golf/our-story
This is a flowery version. Short version is that there is massive brownfield reclamation on the site of a huge old factory. Part 2 is doing it in an economically depressed town in the height of the great recession.
The routing is not convenient. Carts are mandatory, even when the PGA Champions is played there. A few spots where there is a half mile gap from a green to the next tee that involves going under a major thoroughfare. Also not a fan of the two different greens on 6. The green on 10 is as difficult as any green anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPPnVo0CII
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Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
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Grillo earned that win through karma. To treat those kids that well while waiting to see about the playoff..... man. Well done.
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https://www.harborshoresresort.com/golf/our-story
This is a flowery version. Short version is that there is massive brownfield reclamation on the site of a huge old factory. Part 2 is doing it in an economically depressed town in the height of the great recession.
The routing is not convenient. Carts are mandatory, even when the PGA Champions is played there. A few spots where there is a half mile gap from a green to the next tee that involves going under a major thoroughfare. Also not a fan of the two different greens on 6. The green on 10 is as difficult as any green anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPPnVo0CII
Usually turn my nose up at mandatory carts, but the back story is worth it. Thanks tower.
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Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
love harry! pga tour is missing a great guy. got to meet him at wastemanagment along with darius rucker. what a pair they made. just sat back and listened. went out their way to sign and talk to the fans. i picked harry on my fanduel contests 9/10 times. sneaky good
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90 holes in 3 days. I need a break.
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love harry! pga tour is missing a great guy. got to meet him at wastemanagment along with darius rucker. what a pair they made. just sat back and listened. went out their way to sign and talk to the fans. i picked harry on my fanduel contests 9/10 times. sneaky good
How will the PGA Tour survive without Harold Varner III? Can they send Darius Rucker to Saudi Golf, too?
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How will the PGA Tour survive without Harold Varner III? Can they send Darius Rucker to Saudi Golf prison, too?
FIFY
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Rose Zhang, arguably the most successful amateur women’s golfer ever, with a very solid 70 in her LPGA debut.
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90 holes in 3 days. I need a break.
Is that golf or sexual exploits, hey?
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Is that golf or sexual exploits, hey?
yeah, might depend on which ones, hey??
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Rose Zhang enters the third round of her professional debut two strokes off the lead. She needs to win a tournament to make the Solheim Cup team since she can’t technically be a LPGA member until next year.
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Rose Zhang enters the third round of her professional debut two strokes off the lead. She needs to win a tournament to make the Solheim Cup team since she can’t technically be a LPGA member until next year.
The real #teamrose
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The real #teamrose
Rose having a great 3rd round. Would love to see her win this weekend. Cheyenne Knight has also been playing a lot of good golf
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Moving backward day at the Memorial.
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Rose shoots a 6-under that could have been easily 8 or 9 under. Currently in the lead
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Tom McKibbin wins the Porsche Open on the DP World Tour
https://twitter.com/dpworldtour/status/1665376356308336644?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Only 20 years-old and from the same hometown and club as Rory McIlroy. Could be a fun day for golf with Rose Zhang chasing history and a packed leaderboard at Jack’s place
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Go, Keegan. Go, Ricky.
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Go, Keegan. Go, Ricky.
Need Rickie on the Ryder Cup team to help Team Europe
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Hah.
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Hovland was overdue for a win this season.
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Hovland was overdue for a win this season.
Yeah, it was just a matter of time the way he has been playing.
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Impressive how mentally strong Zhang is. Great lag putts and gutsy 3-4 footers to hold onto a 1-stroke lead. Rooting for her!
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Played Pinehurst #4 today
Tough course kicked my butt
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Always rooting for history.
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Nice! Nerves of freakin' steel!!
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Darn … time for a playoff.
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Pace of play is appalling. So is the course.
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Pace of play is appalling. So is the course.
Awesome view of the city, though.
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The course looks like fun. Slow play saps the joy from the game.
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Two impressive putts. Back to the 18th tee!
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So cool.
That approach was the stuff of legends, and Rose Zhang is now part of history!
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So cool.
That approach was the stuff of legends, and Rose Zhang is now part of history!
Incredible stuff. What a shot. Too bad her first win is on a landfill but that will get her on the Solheim Cup team. First of many
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Why the issue with reclaimed brownfield?
They did a parallel thing in Chicago.
Harbor Shores, too.
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Why the issue with reclaimed brownfield?
They did a parallel thing in Chicago.
Harbor Shores, too.
The course gets roasted by those that know. The views save it
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Roasted how?
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Roasted how?
The layout is bad, the design is bad and boring
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We are reading different reviews.
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We are reading different reviews.
They spend their money wisely
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Watching the replay of The Memorial. Major set up and conditions on the course . Unfortunate that Rory could not close . Big win for Hovland.
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It’s that time of year again — time to apply for (and not get) Masters tickets. My oldest daughter has developed an interest in golf (thanks, Netflix) and also wants to apply for tickets. She got a response saying someone else at her address — an apartment building — already applied. Well, of course they did. It’s an apartment building. Hundreds of people live there. I can understand the “one application per household” rule, but do they really apply that to apartment buildings? Does anyone know if she can call and get a workaround?
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It’s that time of year again — time to apply for (and not get) Masters tickets. My oldest daughter has developed an interest in golf (thanks, Netflix) and also wants to apply for tickets. She got a response saying someone else at her address — an apartment building — already applied. Well, of course they did. It’s an apartment building. Hundreds of people live there. I can understand the “one application per household” rule, but do they really apply that to apartment buildings? Does anyone know if she can call and get a workaround?
That's strange. There's a space for an apartment number to be entered on the address form.
From the site, maybe someone can help- For additional information regarding ticketing please contact the Masters Tournament Ticket Office at (706) 667-6700.
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That's strange. There's a space for an apartment number to be entered on the address form.
From the site, maybe someone can help- For additional information regarding ticketing please contact the Masters Tournament Ticket Office at (706) 667-6700.
Thank you. She did include her apartment number. Actually the response that she received gave her that number to call and I suggested she call them. I don't think she called yet (she just tried to apply yesterday evening). Hopefully they will do something that will allow her to apply so she can be disappointed when she does not get tickets.
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Here's a cool story ...
Just hours after winning the Memorial, Hovland is caddying for college buddy Zach Bauchou at a U.S. Open qualifier in Columbus. Hovland will be carrying Bauchou's bag for 36 holes.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/06/05/viktor-hovland-caddies-college-teammate-us-open-final-qualifying/
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Played Pinehurst Number 2 today. Green complexes are brutal. Can hit what looks like an excellent approach and the shot doesn't hold the ball will roll off the green and go 30 yards down a slope .
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Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
He's gonna be REALLY well-rested for the next LIV event because he won't have to play in that pesky U.S. Open after failing to qualify.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article276122731.html?ac_cid=DM807869&ac_bid=-1187699606
Harold Varner III was unambiguous about his financial reasons for jumping to the LIV Tour, but having to qualify for the U.S. Open after top-30 finishes at the Masters and PGA was one of the consequences.
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LOL...what?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/pga-tour-agrees-to-merge-with-saudi-backed-rival-liv-golf.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar
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Wow, that's a stunner -- not necessarily that it happened, but that it happened so soon.
Need a lot more details to form any opinion and to know who "won." Just from the little bit I've read about it so far, though, the golfers have won for sure in the form of more $$$.
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LOL...what?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/pga-tour-agrees-to-merge-with-saudi-backed-rival-liv-golf.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar
Wow
Did the Saudis just buy-out the PGA? Love to get the financial details here
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Players finding out via Twitter is something.
Golf is entirely run by the PIF, very cool.
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Being absolutely ripped on Twitter
https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/1666090435033595910
https://twitter.com/JoeMcCann3/status/1666091602341928960
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Imaging not taking a crap-ton of money to not play for the Saudis to only wake up one morning to find out you're playing for the Saudis.
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Being absolutely ripped on Twitter
https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/1666090435033595910
https://twitter.com/JoeMcCann3/status/1666091602341928960
I love following Joe, but I wouldn’t exactly use a tweet from him for the pulse of the sports media world. Although, it seems in line with many.
I’m pretty shocked by this. For it being For Profit and Yasir as the top person, this means that LIV is taking on the PGA? I thought for sure LIV would be more desperate for a deal with the lack of TV deal.
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A lesson in he who talks most ends up the biggest ass. No one has been honest in all of this, but I’m not sure anyone really cares.
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https://twitter.com/BKoepka/status/1666087935190663170?t=kxYZc7z2VWhS-eHaFY3jZg&s=19
https://twitter.com/MacHughesGolf/status/1666094467903012866?t=EUc2qDhcNWa2rGLS7-it4w&s=19
https://twitter.com/collin_morikawa/status/1666085967105773574?t=EpNCs8BIMn0tEb-0QJicEw&s=19
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I just hope the PGA can maintain their tax exempt status
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Ugh. I don't want to be hyperbolic pending details, but I may have just had a lot of my summer sports following time open up. The PGA must have been pretty confident it was going to lose the antitrust suit.
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I just hope the PGA can maintain their tax exempt status
They've already announced the merger is for-profit.
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i believe i mentioned something along these lines during conversations regarding LIV & PGA. i will look for it but coming to some kind of agreement makes too much sense. no, i haven't read the specifics yet and will, but i had to puff out my chest a little bit first ;D
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makes one wonder if any of the PGA guys who were on the fence, but turned down BIG money to join LIV and now...they're SOL on that deal
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makes one wonder if any of the PGA guys who were on the fence, but turned down BIG money to join LIV and now...they're SOL on that deal
"the PGA sportocrats who ran their organizing game convincing pro golfers to turn down literally hundreds of millions of dollars to stick with the Association and then stabbed them all the back, took the money and ran
honestly incredible stuff, hall of fame crapbags"
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I want Rory's real-time reaction to finding out
I thought the PGA was supposedly a player run organization?
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Excellent deal for all parties
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https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1666098829421314048?t=18GTYuqnQXx-zCrqYvGd_w&s=19
https://twitter.com/notthefakeSVP/status/1666100382160879617
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They've already announced the merger is for-profit.
From the CNBC article:
"Separately, PGA TOUR Inc. will remain in place as a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization"
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MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
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MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
I'm stunned Goose. This is a sad day for me as well.
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I want Rory's real-time reaction to finding out
I thought the PGA was supposedly a player run organization?
That was exactly my first thought.
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MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
I will be boycotting, which is a sad state of affairs over a game I love so much.
I wonder how long it will take before a Wall of Fame featuring the 9/11 terrorists and the bone saw murderers starts popping up at PGA events.
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I will be boycotting, which is a sad state of affairs over a game I love so much.
I wonder how long it will take before a Wall of Fame featuring the 9/11 terrorists and the bone saw murderers starts popping up at PGA events.
i'm assuming you have boycotted anything Chinese too? even the underbritches you wear are made in china. unless torturing and butchering muslims are ok in your world
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rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
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Michael Scott Paper Company and LIV golf have much more in common than first glance.
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rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
Goose,
Whose to say this won't have a major impact on other sports? Even college sports? I think this is beyond terrible and I'm a bit dumbfounded some people cannot see it.
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rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
Rocket has made it clear he doesn’t believe golf is gentlemanly
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Terrible day for the sport.
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Excellent deal for all parties
The details haven’t been released yet
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Nothin's official 'til 29 putts chimes in, aina?
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https://twitter.com/jameshesky/status/1666112128703406081?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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https://twitter.com/jameshesky/status/1666112128703406081?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
This is the one, shut it down. All other analysis need not apply.
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This is the one, shut it down. All other analysis need not apply.
Today is the 79yr anniversary of D-Day. All of this stinks to high heaven imo.
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Today is the 79yr anniversary of D-Day. All of this stinks to high heaven imo.
Muggs-
The PGA represents the wealthy of America and they’ll always sellout anyone and country
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The real clown in this equation is Monaghan. He shouldn’t earn a penny from this starting with his 9/11 comments to selling out.
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rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
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The real clown in this equation is Monaghan. He shouldn’t earn a penny from this starting with his 9/11 comments to selling out.
I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11? I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general.
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Monaghan's comments were always about protecting his own turf against a threat rather than any moral issues over 9/11. That's why it looks so silly now.
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...but it looks good on you....
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I'm as surprised as anyone and waiting for the details. Don't want to rush to judgment. (If there's anything I've learned from Scoop it's 5 years to judge.) I did see some blurb about the team concept being part of this deal. That's a head scratcher.
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I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11? I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general.
https://twitter.com/joshacarpenter/status/1666130243931844624?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Selling out is easy when you’re rich
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I am generally optimistic, glass half full, etc. I feel somewhere between Joey Hauser setting a screen against Brad Davison and Joey playing help defense against Ja Morant.
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I rarely watch "regular" PGA Tour events, so this won't change anything for me in that regard. But I love the majors, especially on the Sunday of a closely contested one. It's too early for me to figure out what this all means as far as whether I'll continue watching those; need more details.
I really enjoyed watching this past Sunday's LPGA finish, with Rose Zhang winning her debut event. She could be golf's next Tiger Woods, and that's pretty exciting.
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i'm assuming you have boycotted anything Chinese too? even the underbritches you wear are made in china. unless torturing and butchering muslims are ok in your world
Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades
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Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades
Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that’s different
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Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that’s different
Or Chik-fil-A now, apparently.
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New logo
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The Shark was blinsided, too. OK, that makes me laugh.
How will this affect the CW?
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The Shark was blinsided, too. OK, that makes me laugh.
I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.
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I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.
LIV is dead. Saudi’s don’t need it anymore. They’re in the game
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Rocket has made it clear he doesn’t believe golf is gentlemanly
you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf
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you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf
No, you’ve made it abundantly clear
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This sucks on so many levels. Monaghan is such a hypocrite, Sauidis can continue their global sports washing.
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Monahan being trashed by players and media.
On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour. How much $ do the defectors have to return?
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Monahan being trashed by players and media.
Will the LIV guys even come back? One of the reasons they left was so they could have more family time. Cam Smith was pretty adamant about how great it was to spend more time with his mates in Australia. Can’t imagine he’ll want to grind on tour again
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Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.
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Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.
Off the top of my head, so? Sergio, I guess? Casey?
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Yeah, not a huge loss. Long term, captaincies?
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Yeah, not a huge loss. Long term, captaincies?
They’ll get them now. Ryder Cup in Jeddha will be amazing
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Monahan being trashed by players and media.
On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour. How much $ do the defectors have to return?
I'd guess they will return about $0.
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Could PGA membership dismiss Monaghan?
I heard about a minute snippet of the guy and was not remotely impressed by anything he said.
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I think so. But to what end? Could a new commissioner undo the deal? Then what?
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Could PGA membership dismiss Monaghan?
I heard about a minute snippet of the guy and was not remotely impressed by anything he said.
Maybe the Saudis bought up all of his debts too?
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Maybe the Saudis bought up all of his debts too?
I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
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Shocked that an organization run by wealthy elitists to benefit wealtty elitists wasn't sincere in its stance on human rights.
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I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
It’s ok. You buy sneakers from China
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I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass. These guys have had a highly compensated personal fiefdom with no accountability for many years . Excellent work if you can get it.This was always about the money from all sides .
PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman’s gluteus . They are all better off.
DP World Tour also getting a big upgrade.
Just finished several days at Pinehurst and everyone there is pumped that this is settled before 2024 US Open
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It’s ok. You buy sneakers from China
That's not the same thing.
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That's not the same thing.
Of course it isn’t.
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I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass. These guys have had a highly compensated personal fiefdom with no accountability for many years . Excellent work if you can get it.This was always about the money from all sides .
PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman’s gluteus . They are all better off.
DP World Tour also getting a big upgrade.
Just finished several days at Pinehurst and everyone there is pumped that this is settled before 2024 US Open
What are the upgrades for the DP World Tour? What are the specific upgrades? Please share the details.
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It will be interesting to see now many gazillionaire CEOs continue to have their companies sponsor tournaments.
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I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass.
Of course you do.
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Bob Parsons is in a fix.
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I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
I totally respect you position and it is completely understandable, as long as you have not been a fan or supporter of the PGA or NBA who have relationships with China. And I assume you have spoke out about the Democrats and Republicans who have supported the relationship, including selling arms, with Saudi Arabia.
If you are that consistent in your ethical standards, great for you. I know someone else who is and he is no fan of the NBA and PGA. He likes the sports but dislikes the professional organizations due to their tolerance of the China government and its practice of 'sportswashing'.
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I totally respect you position and it is completely understandable, as long as you have not been a fan or supporter of the PGA or NBA who have relationships with China. And I assume you have spoke out about the Democrats and Republicans who have supported the relationship, including selling arms, with Saudi Arabia.
If you are that consistent in your ethical standards, great for you. I know someone else who is and he is no fan of the NBA and PGA. He likes the sports but dislikes the professional organizations due to their tolerance of the China government and its practice of 'sportswashing'.
I love basketball and watch the NBA. I understand their hypocrisy as well and am no fan of their leadership. But in this particular situation with golf I think it's more nuanced when individuals and the entire sport are being funded by the House of Saud.
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PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman’s gluteus . They are all better off.
This is only true if you assume they are all craven whores. Every significant PGA tour player that did not jump to LIV made that decision at personal, financial expense. I think it is fair to assume that they made that decision at least in part for moral reasons - LIV was willing to pay whoever would jump. To now call them "better off" because they're getting more money from the Saudis, despite their previous decision to forego that, is pretty demeaning.
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This is only true if you assume they are all craven whores. Every significant PGA tour player that did not jump to LIV made that decision at personal, financial expense. I think it is fair to assume that they made that decision at least in part for moral reasons - LIV was willing to pay whoever would jump. To now call them "better off" because they're getting more money from the Saudis, despite their previous decision to forego that, is pretty demeaning.
Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There’s no place left for him.
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Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There’s no place left for him.
He also destroyed the PGA tour.
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I love basketball and watch the NBA. I understand their hypocrisy as well and am no fan of their leadership. . But in this particular situation with golf I think it's more nuanced when individuals and the entire sport are being funded by the House of Saud.
I get it. IMHO, there were enough reasons to dislike LIV without painting ourselves into a corner on the ethical issues.
Personally, I was enjoying watching LIV wither on the vine and looking forward to its failure. I don't like Monaghan for doing this deal and mismanaging the PGA for years. I have a gut feeling it will come to light the Monaghan and the PGA brass are pocketing huge money.
To be fully honest, I give the LIV credit for forcing some changes and giving PGA players a more equitable share of the pie, but that's the only silver lining I see.
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Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There’s no place left for him.
The guy is a putz........... a putz with $300 million. >:(
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That written statement by Monahan specifically about his hypocrisy is literally the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
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Shocked that an organization run by wealthy elitists to benefit wealtty elitists wasn't sincere in its stance on human rights.
I am amazed that so many are surprised, honestly.
Everyone has a price. Literally, everyone.
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Welp
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Making SMU proud
https://twitter.com/troncarternlu/status/1666405114490286080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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What are the upgrades for the DP World Tour? What are the specific upgrades? Please share the details.
DP was losing lots of its high profile talent to LIV, had become a feeder tour to PGA Tour. Their Ryder Cup team , which is a big deal on their tour, was withering. The DP had almost had become a Korn Ferry Tour 2.0. All that reduces value to Sponsors.
Now they will regain access to their talent, with coordinated schedules will have an equal footing with PGA Tour and LIV and as result will most likely gain sponsors.
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Making SMU proud
https://twitter.com/troncarternlu/status/1666405114490286080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Oof...
But how does "the game of golf" win here? How does it "grow the game?" (I don't think he knows the answers to these question either BTW.)
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DP was losing lots of its high profile talent to LIV, had become a feeder tour to PGA Tour. Their Ryder Cup team , which is a big deal on their tour, was withering. The DP had almost had become a Korn Ferry Tour 2.0. All that reduces value to Sponsors.
Now they will regain access to their talent, with coordinated schedules will have an equal footing with PGA Tour and LIV and as result will most likely gain sponsors.
None of that has been reported as to happening. The only hinted scheduling is there will no longer be LIV events going up against either.
What young players did they lose to LIV hurt the Ryder Cup? Horsfeld? The rest were aging out.
The top players had long ago left the DP World Tour to play in the US. How is that going to change? Where are the specifics that even hint at this changing?
Also, LIV is dead, so it probably doesn’t want to have equal footing.
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Oof...
But how does "the game of golf" win here? How does it "grow the game?" (I don't think he knows the answers to these question either BTW.)
He’s an idiot.
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Welp
Yep.
This is why comparisons to the NBA/China fail.
This isn't hosting an exhibition tournament in Riyadh. It isn't broadcasting tournaments in the kingdom. It's not even entering commercial relationships with Saudi entities.
This is closer to selling the NBA to the CCP.
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The Saudi government and their PIF will essentially own the sport of golf. Keep in mind they offered Matsuyama 300m, Rickie Fowler turned down 75m, and Rory and Tiger probably could have gotten what close to 2B? They have unlimited funds. They could set up tournaments with prize money and their stupid 54 hole set-up with purses will make the Masters look like a skins payout among recreational golfers. Will there even be cuts anymore? What exactly happens to the non-stars and those trying to make tbe Tour? And how about this partnership between the PGA and LPGA? I'm sure that's going to be fine and dandy.
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He’s an idiot.
It's this.
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The Saudi government and their PIF will essentially own the sport of golf. Keep in mind they offered Matsuyama 300m, Rickie Fowler turned down 75m, and Rory and Tiger probably could have gotten what close to 2B? They have unlimited funds. They could set up tournaments with prize money and their stupid 54 hole set-up with purses will make the Masters look like a skins payout among recreational golfers. Will there even be cuts anymore? What exactly happens to the non-stars and those trying to make tbe Tour? And how about this partnership between the PGA and LPGA? I'm sure that's going to be fine and dandy.
That's the whole point of this. The dream of a top players series that works within the framework of the PGA and DP World Tours.
My guess is that there will be a series of 8-10 events worldwide for the top 50 players. Perhaps it will still be branded LIV or it could have a new name. I think it will look like the old WGC events, 72 holes, but no cut. The money will be huge and funded from PIF. The old sponsor worries that the Tour had with old WGC events is now gone.
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I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
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I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
See: Andy Gardiner and the PGL
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I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
Would be a bad bet, Goose. With the Saudi's funds, the Tour basically now has unlimited capital to pour into their top players. Sure, some players are pissed today, but I doubt that lasts. And, even if it does, it only matters what the top guys that stayed loyal to the Tour think. The McKenzie Hughes of the world can be as mad as they want, but they don't matter. Just see Rory's positive reaction today to the news.
The only way an alternative league would have a chance is if the Tour's long-time sponsors and media partners were to now back away after this Saudi deal. That could provide an opening. However, I don't see that happening.
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RJax55
I do not completely disagree with you, but the world has changed a great deal over the past few years. Ask BudLight, Target and others about pissing people off. IMO, one of the biggest mistakes made by the clown at the PGA was taking the 9/11 path as a selling point for the PGA. As I mentioned, the Saudi money was not my issue with Liv because blood money is everywhere in all of our lives. But using the 9/11 families and then taking the money is beyond a very bad look.
I think as fans digest the news, we are going to see more pissed off fans and potentially sponsors. Add that with the complete money grab and they might face more heat in the media and from fans. IMO, this is going to turn into a media nightmare for the PGA as more is learned about the deal. One other point going against them, there are people that feel badly that very wealthy guys turned down billions of dollars to be loyal and then were sold out. It is not often you will see average people feeling badly someone turned down $300m or $75m or $20m for the sake of being loyal.
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None of that has been reported as to happening. The only hinted scheduling is there will no longer be LIV events going up against either.
What young players did they lose to LIV hurt the Ryder Cup? Horsfeld? The rest were aging out.
The top players had long ago left the DP World Tour to play in the US. How is that going to change? Where are the specifics that even hint at this changing?
Also, LIV is dead, so it probably doesn’t want to have equal footing.
Scheduling is the heart of the deal. New entity will optimize all brands PGA Tour, DP World Tour and whatever they call the Team Brand. Better logistically to maximize ad dollars
My guess is bottom half of PGA Tour players will be moved onto DP Tour and DP Tour will have events in US .
The aging Europe Ryder Cup players contributed the majority of their points at Whistling Straights . The PR value of a future Ryder Cup with America captained by Tiger versus Euro Villain Sergio is incalculable . Poulter will also be a great captain for them. Euros have a whole system of Captains and Vice Captains and they need the Westwoods and Caseys of the world for that
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Scheduling is the heart of the deal. New entity will optimize all brands PGA Tour, DP World Tour and whatever they call the Team Brand. Better logistically to maximize ad dollars
My guess is bottom half of PGA Tour players will be moved onto DP Tour and DP Tour will have events in US .
The aging Europe Ryder Cup players contributed the majority of their points at Whistling Straights . The PR value of a future Ryder Cup with America captained by Tiger versus Euro Villain Sergio is incalculable . Poulter will also be a great captain for them. Euros have a whole system of Captains and Vice Captains and they need the Westwoods and Caseys of the world for that
So, you’re guessing is what you’re saying and have no facts about the sponsors or schedule. Current sponsors may not re-up, other sponsors may not want the negative publicity of a Saudi-backed league. Again, there are ZERO details of a schedule either.
Secondly, the DOJ may very well not let this “merger” happen.
Sergio and Poults ain’t gonna be captains as long as Rory is on the team. That ship sailed a long time ago. And if you think Tiger is going to be captain and glad hand with Sergio as his opponent, you haven’t been paying attention at all. None of the Saudi boys will be on the 2023 Team Europe Ryder Cup team.
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If this is allowable, where's the line for foreign entities owning an entire US industry? Is it based on the industry type? Or which foreign entity?
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If this is allowable, where's the line for foreign entities owning an entire US industry? Is it based on the industry type? Or which foreign entity?
Technically, the PIF is independent of the Saudi Government
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So, you’re guessing is what you’re saying and have no facts about the sponsors or schedule. Current sponsors may not re-up, other sponsors may not want the negative publicity of a Saudi-backed league. Again, there are ZERO details of a schedule either.
Secondly, the DOJ may very well not let this “merger” happen.
Sergio and Poults ain’t gonna be captains as long as Rory is on the team. That ship sailed a long time ago. And if you think Tiger is going to be captain and glad hand with Sergio as his opponent, you haven’t been paying attention at all. None of the Saudi boys will be on the 2023 Team Europe Ryder Cup team.
Of course I am guessing. However DP World which is a big sponsor clearly does not care about Saudi Arabia , neither does others like Emirates Air or Rolex who sells a lot of watches to Saudi Royals
I am also saying the opposite about Tiger and Sergio in that it will be nasty and that is great reality TV.
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Of course I am guessing. However DP World which is a big sponsor clearly does not care about Saudi Arabia , neither does others like Emirates Air or Rolex who sells a lot of watches to Saudi Royals
I am also saying the opposite about Tiger and Sergio in that it will be nasty and that is great reality TV.
So you don’t know if the deal is good. Got it.
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So you don’t know if the deal is good. Got it.
I think this deal is based on the concept of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I think this is an excellent deal for all parties involved . All the Tours , The Players , The Majors, The Charities and The Public.
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I think this deal is based on the concept of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I think this is an excellent deal for all parties involved . All the Tours , The Players , The Majors, The Charities and The Public.
No details, no schedule, no idea where guys can play, no idea what events will be kept, no idea who still has jobs, no idea about who is really in charge. But excellent for everyone.
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To me, it looks like Monahan and the rest of the PGA pooh-bahs thought they might get crushed in court. Not only could they have lost some expensive -- and perhaps catastrophic -- litigation, but the tour's private communications and financials would have gotten a public airing.
As for McIlroy, in the interview I saw, he used the word "resigned." He sounded way more beaten down than angry, felt he was used and duped. I'm wondering if he was tipped off in advance that something was going down. Maybe he wasn't given all the info, but some. Because his reaction sure seemed muted for a guy who spent most of the last year angry as hell about all things LIV.
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No details, no schedule, no idea where guys can play, no idea what events will be kept, no idea who still has jobs, no idea about who is really in charge. But excellent for everyone.
The guys who put this deal together for The PGA Tour are as bright as they come. The details don't matter at this point . The litigation is over , The PGA Tour got a lot of new capital and that will solve any temporarily bruised feelings . Saudi guys get to own a whole league which is all they care about. They are more than happy to let PGA Tour run it.
The average sports fan only follows The Majors and they will all be fine . Players Championship ,which is a big money maker for PGA Tour ,will be able to get back to a full field. All the over the hill LIV guys over 50 will be able to go back to Champions Tour.
My guess is Greg Norman will be thrown under the bus , but will be compensated well for his efforts .
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The guys who put this deal together for The PGA Tour are as bright as they come. The details don't matter at this point . The litigation is over , The PGA Tour got a lot of new capital and that will solve any temporarily bruised feelings . Saudi guys get to own a whole league which is all they care about. They are more than happy to let PGA Tour run it.
The average sports fan only follows The Majors and they will all be fine . Players Championship ,which is a big money maker for PGA Tour ,will be able to get back to a full field. All the over the hill LIV guys over 50 will be able to go back to Champions Tour.
My guess is Greg Norman will be thrown under the bus , but will be compensated well for his efforts .
Details matter to the DOJ
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You should ask your neighbors and give us the details.
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You should ask your neighbors and give us the details.
When I hear something you will be first to know.
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i can't believe so many people had so much faith in monahan! the pga had a HUGE cash flow. i guess because many of the players have been able to swing their own "NIL" type deals, they didn't seem to pay much attention.
the pga is a 1.5 billion dollar business whose non profit status has been questioned as it has been reported that they donate less than 20% to charity
it will be interesting to see who takes over monahan's position but they will need a new bed as he completely chit all over his.
jack nicklaus, who is widely respected says this PGA-LIV relationship is "good for the game of golf". he is obviously a jay monahan slurper trying to salvage what respect he can. brave man as he is putting his entire golf career on the line.
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i can't believe so many people had so much faith in monahan! the pga had a HUGE cash flow. i guess because many of the players have been able to swing their own "NIL" type deals, they didn't seem to pay much attention.
the pga is a 1.5 billion dollar business whose non profit status has been questioned as it has been reported that they donate less than 20% to charity
it will be interesting to see who takes over monahan's position but they will need a new bed as he completely chit all over his.
jack nicklaus, who is widely respected says this PGA-LIV relationship is "good for the game of golf". he is obviously a jay monahan slurper trying to salvage what respect he can. brave man as he is putting his entire golf career on the line.
Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you’ve typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
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Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you’ve typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63934.msg1555383#msg1555383
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Interesting read about Saudi finances. A lot to digest but a different perspective
https://chiefexecutive.net/the-rest-of-the-story-the-overlooked-saudi-sand-trap-behind-the-golf-treaty/
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Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you’ve typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
keep forgetting, reeko is the bellwether of the board. pass everything thru him and is it Good lord or good Lord or Good Lord? regardless, you ain't all you think you is dude
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keep forgetting, reeko is the bellwether of the board. pass everything thru him and is it Good lord or good Lord or Good Lord? regardless, you ain't all you think you is dude
Actually, I am
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I'm a little jealous.
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rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
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rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
If Arnie were still here…
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Rico
If Arnie was still here and said what Jack said I probably would be closer to buyer of the idea. I'll take Arnie the businessman over Jack seven days week. Plus, every time I saw Arnie tear up talking about what golf meant to him was a big influence in my golfing life.
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Rico
If Arnie was still here and said what Jack said I probably would be closer to buyer of the idea. I'll take Arnie the businessman over Jack seven days week. Plus, every time I saw Arnie tear up talking about what golf meant to him was a big influence in my golfing life.
A big reason this started gathering steam a few years back was the lack of Arnie. Arnie had warts but I believed him being a steward of the game. His voice carried a lot of weight.
I think that could have been Tom Watson or Ben Crenshaw’s role to inherit had they chosen to. Crenshaw and his role at Augusta and golf course design have a lot of respect and ears. Watson was done after FIGJAM drove the bus over him in 2014.
Jack has always been about Jack and that’s part of what made him great but he’s always chased the dollar bills. He’d have taken an active role in LIV had he not been talked out of it. His place in golf is secure and will always be admired as a player. His charitable work is second to none as well, but I think most inside the game realize Jack was no Arnie
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Rico
No doubt Arnie had plenty of warts, but it sure seemed he tried his best to give back to the game until the day he died. there has been a big void on top since Arnie went off the air and this is why Liv came to life.
I miss Arnie. I just watched the other day the last time he was interviewed at St. Andrews and I always love seeing that video. I also drove, and flew, many times to see Arnie in person and loved every minute of it. Shook his hands maybe ten times and remember him kissing my Mom at the airport in Palm Springs. He was one cool dude.
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More interesting reading
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-saudi-pga-golf-deal-isnt-going?utm_medium=email
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More interesting reading
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-saudi-pga-golf-deal-isnt-going?utm_medium=email
Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
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Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
Given the past two years and the haphazard way golf has been run professionally, asking how well thought out this is, is a fair question.
Given how the rollout has gone, yes, I have my doubts
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Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
Given the ridiculous amount of lobbying the Saudis have done in the last decade? I'm gonna go ahead and say the DOJ will let this one slide
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Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
This deal is unwinding the present restraint of trade that the PGA Tour has fully imposed on its players . So now players can play on any tour they qualify for .
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Jack’s a respected golf authority?
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This deal is unwinding the present restraint of trade that the PGA Tour has fully imposed on its players . So now players can play on any tour they qualify for .
Lol
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Greg Norman apparently stated: "LIV isn't going anywhere." LOL. Was this quote a year ago or today? Norman was played like a violin. He reminds me of Carlo in the Godfather. He's probably checking to see if Clemenza is in the back seat of his car.
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3470167/hell-of-a-break-producer-of-full-swing-confirms-cameras-were-rolling-in-players-cars-and-houses-when-the-liv-merger-was-announced
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rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
great stuff goose! let's go hit the mashie and have a slab of meat!
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Raucous crowd at the RBC Canadian Open. Rory having a good round . Rory trying for a Canadian three peat
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Monahan saying that the lawsuits were bleeding the tour dry.
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Monahan saying that the lawsuits were bleeding the tour dry.
Sort of believe that. Think that’s an excuse to a certain degree.
Also know Saudi’s didn’t want to have to go under oath. Know Kushner family didn’t want a look at the books.
Lot of parties terrified
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After some research, my early analysis is that PIF realized LIV had no chance of ever making a profit. This deal is a way to stop the bleeding after this season. PIF saves face by getting Chairmanship of a Board controlled by PGA Tour
No actual money is changing hands . PGA Tour is valued and what ever properties PIF has are valued . LIV probably worth nothing and their Asian Tour events worth very little . Monahan and non defecting players get equity in new venture. LIV is eliminated . LIV golfers come back with tail between legs paying fines and being treated like Germans after World War I. Norman becomes Persona Non Grata
PIF may or may not put new capital in the venture.
DOJ will investigate . PGA Tour Charity beneficiaries will lobby heavily for the deal. PIF may have to put capital in LPGA Tour as a political fig leaf
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After some research, my early analysis is that PIF realized LIV had no chance of ever making a profit. This deal is a way to stop the bleeding after this season. PIF saves face by getting Chairmanship of a Board controlled by PGA Tour
No actual money is changing hands . PGA Tour is valued and what ever properties PIF has are valued . LIV probably worth nothing and their Asian Tour events worth very little . Monahan and non defecting players get equity in new venture. LIV is eliminated . LIV golfers come back with tail between legs paying fines and being treated like Germans after World War I. Norman becomes Persona Non Grata
PIF may or may not put new capital in the venture.
DOJ will investigate . PGA Tour Charity beneficiaries will lobby heavily for the deal. PIF may have to put capital in LPGA Tour as a political fig leaf
I think you should keep researching, or maybe do less, the answer is glaring.
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Canadian Nick Taylor leading Canadian Open by 2. If Nick wins he would be the first Canadian to win their National Open since 1954.
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to make the putt taylor just did takes some stones and a little bit of talent ;D
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Fairway Jesus and Taylor heading to second playoff hole . Incredible birdies on the first.
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Heading to fourth playoff hole. Love how the Canadian and Euro teammates ate supporting their respective guys
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Wow
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72 feet of HELLO-good night
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Sergio crawling back to PGA Tour/DP World Tour.....
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/golf/12901334/sergio-garcia-eyes-pga-tour-return-if-theres-no-liv-golf-i-have-to-go-somewhere
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Jay Monahan medical situation
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/jay-monahan-medical-situation
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/phil-mickelson-accused-showing-pat-perezs-wife-offensive-picture-dinner
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/phil-mickelson-accused-showing-pat-perezs-wife-offensive-picture-dinner
Phil and Amy are swingers. The People’s Champ and famous family man loves getting young pros to join the fun
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Pat Perez ain't young.
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Phil and Amy are swingers. The People’s Champ and famous family man loves getting young pros to join the fun
Since Phil and Perz are on the same tour this should be their theme song
LIVing Loving…..
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-8MCijoQpfA&feature=share9
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Pat Perez ain't young.
Nope, but Phil needs some loving, too. Amy gets most of the action while he watches
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Any of you going to the US Senior Open in Point the last week of June? Had planned to go but got stuck having to stay in Seattle. Will be cool to see a course (and likely many locals in the crowd) I know pretty well on TV.
Have to admit is was weird seeing advertisements for the US Senior open with Stevens Point / Sentryworld superimposed on the screen next to the LA skyline during the US open telecast.
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Damn. Forgot to sign up.
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Rose Zhang just hit a missile into 18 at Baltusrol (terrible Championship course), setting up an eagle putt to try and get to -2 at the KPMG Ladies PGA
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Rose Zhang just hit a missile into 18 at Baltusrol (terrible Championship course), setting up an eagle putt to try and get to -2 at the KPMG Ladies PGA
They restored Baltusrol lower for this Championship
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https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Can’t wait to see her on the Solheim Cup Team 🤢
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https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Way to hit the cut-off man.......
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https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Can’t wait to see her on the Solheim Cup Team 🤢
Ughhhhhhh....
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She has been putting like that all year.
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She has been putting like that all year.
No lead for her will ever be safe
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She has been putting like that all year.
Unfortunate for someone so talented.
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Lexi made the cur with a rally
https://www.si.com/golf/news/lexi-thompson-kpmg-womens-pga-championship-2023-birdie-train
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Zhang appears to be the real deal.
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Sergio and Rory Bromance back together
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/-i-have-that-friend-back---sergio-garcia-and-rory-mcilroy-s-feud/amp
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Sergio and Rory Bromance back together
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/-i-have-that-friend-back---sergio-garcia-and-rory-mcilroy-s-feud/amp
Given Sergio’s history, give it a week
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Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
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Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
Quite different than the usual Champions Tour hit and giggle.
Langer in the lead. Incredible at 65.
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Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn’t capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I’m a golf nut but I’m not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
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Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn’t capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I’m a golf nut but I’m not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
pretty short sighted here reeko. the state of wisconsin has become a golf destination. when sand valley started to take shape, my biggest complaint was infrastructure. now look at it. they are building infrastructure around a complex of world class golf courses. not to mention the other courses they already have in the vicinity-lake arrowhead, northern bay, among others. this is all on the way from blackwolf run and whistling straights. then there are the courses at wisconsin dells-wild rock, trappers turn and cold water canyon.
for golf crazies going to the senior open can very easily be planned around trips to any number of the courses mentioned
having the event during summerfest (yes ,i know that's 2 hours away) is another draw.
sentry world is a great/unique course. i have to agree however, it may not be set up very well for spectator events.
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Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn’t capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I’m a golf nut but I’m not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
Yeah it’s weird because when Sentry first opened it was probably the course that people thought would host the next major in Wisconsin. But that was 35 years ago.
Having been exposed to some of the leadership at Sentry Insurance over the years, I wouldn’t doubt that they threw a real good deal in front of the USGA to land it though.
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Yeah it’s weird because when Sentry first opened it was probably the course that people thought would host the next major in Wisconsin. But that was 35 years ago.
Having been exposed to some of the leadership at Sentry Insurance over the years, I wouldn’t doubt that they threw a real good deal in front of the USGA to land it though.
They’re very involved in golf and will only continue to be more aggressive in trying to land more events at SentryWorld.
Hard to work with the current leadership at the USGA who are anchoring their premium events at designated sites, though.
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pretty short sighted here reeko. the state of wisconsin has become a golf destination. when sand valley started to take shape, my biggest complaint was infrastructure. now look at it. they are building infrastructure around a complex of world class golf courses. not to mention the other courses they already have in the vicinity-lake arrowhead, northern bay, among others. this is all on the way from blackwolf run and whistling straights. then there are the courses at wisconsin dells-wild rock, trappers turn and cold water canyon.
for golf crazies going to the senior open can very easily be planned around trips to any number of the courses mentioned
having the event during summerfest (yes ,i know that's 2 hours away) is another draw.
sentry world is a great/unique course. i have to agree however, it may not be set up very well for spectator events.
I’m well aware Wisconsin is now a golf destination. That includes SentryWorld, though I’d put it well behind Sand Valley, Destination Kohler, Erin Hills and Lawsonia.
SentryWorld has a very unique setup with regards to pricing and tee times. They’re not overbooking the course and really catering to the crowd looking for a full experience. It’s just not a course people see as a destination to watch golf or see the course, even for the junkies. The geriatric tour isn’t moving the needle with its current lineup.
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Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
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I’m well aware Wisconsin is now a golf destination. That includes SentryWorld, though I’d put it well behind Sand Valley, Destination Kohler, Erin Hills and Lawsonia.
SentryWorld has a very unique setup with regards to pricing and tee times. They’re not overbooking the course and really catering to the crowd looking for a full experience. It’s just not a course people see as a destination to watch golf or see the course, even for the junkies. The geriatric tour isn’t moving the needle with its current lineup.
just saying with you p!ssing all over the fact that they are holding the senior us open at sentry world...like it ain't worthy and who's going to go?
golf destination! taking in the seniors, preempted or followed by a few rounds at any of our other esteemed courses making a guys week out of it
oh, and btw, rickie is playing pretty well AGAIN. he's on a mission!
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just saying with you p!ssing all over the fact that they are holding the senior us open at sentry world...like it ain't worthy and who's going to go?
golf destination! taking in the seniors, preempted or followed by a few rounds at any of our other esteemed courses making a guys week out of it
oh, and btw, rickie is playing pretty well AGAIN. he's on a mission!
Great afternoon for Team Europe
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Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
LIV is dead
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Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
I’m not sure a dominant Taylor Gooch is the excitement LIV is going for.
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Langer apparently decoded to go medieval against the local Wisco boys.
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Ricky Fowler with a much needed win
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Langer apparently decoded to go medieval against the local Wisco boys.
Looks like Bernhard is going to break Hale Irwins Champions tour record for most wins
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Looks like Bernhard is going to break Hale Irwins Champions tour record for most wins
Any Hauser sightings in the crowd?
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Not sure Langer’s place in golf history but his achievements after 50 are incredible.
The good news is, Jerry Kelly didn’t win.
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Not sure Langer’s place in golf history but his achievements after 50 are incredible.
The good news is, Jerry Kelly didn’t win.
Langer is still 2nd all time in wins on the Euro Tour. Only Seve has more. He had a great career even pre-50.
In my mind, he's pro golf's ironman.
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Langer is still 2nd all time in wins on the Euro Tour. Only Seve has more. He had a great career even pre-50.
In my mind, he's pro golf's ironman.
First pro win was in 1980. Remarkable to win a Senior US Open 43 years later
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Women play the US Open at Pebble this week. Ought to be a fascinating and fun watch
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Rooting for Amy Olson. If you love great stories..... winning a US Open 7 months pregnant would be just about the best.
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That is a great story, tower. I'll also be real interested to see how Rose Zhang does; she'll be playing on a special exemption.
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Rooting for Amy Olson. If you love great stories..... winning a US Open 7 months pregnant would be just about the best.
No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
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No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
Only because this guy never took up golf.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/511Y8S1HXTL.jpg)
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Only because this guy never took up golf.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/511Y8S1HXTL.jpg)
The proper reference was Arnold in Junior.
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No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
Which makes it a great story.
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After bogeying 17 and 18 to end up at even, I am proud that my 16 year old mocked the sh!t out of me for getting grumpy. I raised him right.
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So Fahrenheit, 31 putts, hey?
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Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
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Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
I'm going tomorrow! Very excited!! :)
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I'm going tomorrow! Very excited!! :)
Awesome! It’s a great venue
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Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
I played it yesterday with Annika. It’s in good shape. Rough is up
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Pebble looks fantastic as always. Cool, overcast and great crowds
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The tee shot Lydia Ko hit on 5 was one of the worst tee shots in major championship history
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I played it yesterday with Annika. It’s in good shape. Rough is up
Which simulator did you go to, hey?
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Rose needs to close strong 15-18.
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Sweet Jesus. Focus!
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Zhang channeling Gary Woodland.
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Zhang channeling Gary Woodland.
She should at minimum birdie 18 with that aggressive drive.
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Muggsy, watch course management, tempo, and how they almost always hit the ball in the center of the club face.
Enjoy your trip to Pebble.
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Muggsy, watch course management, tempo, and how they almost always hit the ball in the center of the club face.
Enjoy your trip to Pebble.
Ty. There's barely any wind in tbe forecast. Surprised Zhang and Ko were both way off on their approach there.
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Both have been a little off today. Ko has been off for months.
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Both have been a little off today. Ko has been off for months.
How have the greens been speed wise?
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Lexi and Danielle Kang no-show Pebble. Nelly not in contention. Big guns for Team USA disappoint.
Rose Zhang hanging in there at +1. Two Americans on top. Not sure Bailey Tardy holds up over the weekend but she can wallop the golf ball and has eagled 6 the first two rounds.
Kind of like Leona Maguire or Nasa Hataoka
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Michelle Wie West ends her career at Pebble on Friday
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/uswomensopen2023-michelle-wie-west-last-tournament-retirement-annika-sorenstam-pebble-beach
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Michelle Wie West ends her career at Pebble on Friday
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/uswomensopen2023-michelle-wie-west-last-tournament-retirement-annika-sorenstam-pebble-beach
she is definitely going to be missed in more ways than one, eyn'a eyn'a?
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she is definitely going to be missed in more ways than one, eyn'a eyn'a?
Why? Do you masterbate when thinking about her? That’s a sin. Lusting after your neighbors wife is a big no-no.
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Leona Maguire is always a solid bet. If the wind really is howling this evening, her experience playing Irish links land courses will be helpful.
Corpuz was in the Friday group with Maguire that I followed three weeks ago. That day she was super solid but did not have the closing run that Maguire had. Shot 67ish, but nobody noticed.
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Leona Maguire is always a solid bet. If the wind really is howling this evening, her experience playing Irish links land courses will be helpful.
Corpuz was in the Friday group with Maguire that I followed three weeks ago. That day she was super solid but did not have the closing run that Maguire had. Shot 67ish, but nobody noticed.
Furue has been playing well this year, too. Wonder what the leader is at after today?
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Having fun in LIV London
https://twitter.com/thegolfeditor/status/1677307925025501184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1677307925025501184¤tTweetUser=thegolfeditor
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Having fun in LIV London
https://twitter.com/thegolfeditor/status/1677307925025501184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1677307925025501184¤tTweetUser=thegolfeditor
This got absolutely roasted across social media showing how out of touch they are with the general public. Flash mobs? What is this? 2013?
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What a fun day watching these women at Pebble! Zhang is absolutely amazing but I must say Farue was my favorite player to watch. She's really little but pops the ball with tremendous consistency! The way she shallows the club is phenomenal and her balance is perfect.
This is the first time I've watched the LPGA in person, they're incredibly impressive .Min-Jee-Lee's swing is an absolute thing of beauty. Technically I think they're better than the men from an overall standpoint. I'll be rooting for Ayaka....I think she like 4'11. :)
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What a fun day watching these women at Pebble! Zhang is absolutely amazing but I must say Farue was my favorite player to watch. She's really little but pops the ball with tremendous consistency! The way she shallows the club is phenomenal and her balance is perfect.
This is the first time I've watched the LPGA in person, they're incredibly impressive .Min-Jee-Lee's swing is an absolute thing of beauty. Technically I think they're better than the men from an overall standpoint. I'll be rooting for Ayaka....I think she like 4'11. :)
Glad you enjoyed it! The ladies are fun to watch.
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Nasa Hataoka is 5'2. She really gets the most out of her lack of leverage, too.
Glad you had fun, Muggsy.
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Nasa Hataoka is 5'2. She really gets the most out of her lack of leverage, too.
Glad you had fun, Muggsy.
Yes!! Nasa was awesome as well. These women have beautiful tempo and transition. I also really enjoyed watching Brooke Henderson. She holds the club so loose and has that wicked hinge. Zhang is going to be a huge, huge, star imo. The total package.
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Because you and I cannot hit it 350 yards, in many ways we can learn more about the golf swing watching the women professionals.
They are almost never out of balance. They can't just fire at pins and put tour juice on it, so they play for the bounce and roll out. More realistic short games.
Don't get me wrong. I admire Rory and Rahm and Finau and Sceffler. But I cannot generate that much club speed. So I learn more watching the ladies or Langer.
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Because you and I cannot hit it 350 yards, in many ways we can learn more about the golf swing watching the women professionals.
They are almost never out of balance. They can't just fire at pins and put tour juice on it, so they play for the bounce and roll out. More realistic short games.
Don't get me wrong. I admire Rory and Rahm and Finau and Sceffler. But I cannot generate that much club speed. So I learn more watching the ladies or Langer.
I completely agree Tower. Farue doesn't look she's going full throttle at all and was still popping drives and long irons. I was most impressed with their balance . They rarely try to muscle the ball. And let's be real, they can still hit it pretty damn far and would wipe the floor vs very good male golfers.
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Playing the Lido on Thursday
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Enjoy setting the course record.
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Tardy would be a pretty cool story. I literally never heard of her until yesterday.
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Tardy would be a pretty cool story. I literally never heard of her until yesterday.
What you're saying is that you're late hearing about Tardy?
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What you're saying is that you're late hearing about Tardy?
Touche.
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Nasa!! Let's go now!!
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Nasa!! Let's go now!!
What a round of golf.
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What a round of golf.
Superb round of golf.
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Superb round of golf.
She was 8.7 strokes better than the field. Shooting a 66 today is incredible golf and one of the best rounds of golf you’ll ever see. She has to finish for it to matter
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She was 8.7 strokes better than the field. Shooting a 66 today is incredible golf and one of the best rounds of golf you’ll ever see. She has to finish for it to matter
Absolutely. She must slam the door tomorrow.
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Hull with a 32 on the Front 9. It's time for Nasa to focus and play with pinpoint precision. :)
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Hull is officially on 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!!
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Cam Smith wins LIV London , has a couple weeks to prep for his Open defense. Says his game is peaking
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/cam-smith-wins-liv-golf-london-2023-sets-sights-open-championship-title-defense/amp
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Yikes! Nasa is a bit too amped. :(
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Corpuz earned it.
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Corpuz earned it.
No doubt.
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It turns out she was warned about slow play. Was one more warning away from a penalty. She is very deliberate. I would hate to play with or behind her.
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It turns out she was warned about slow play. Was one more warning away from a penalty. She is very deliberate. I would hate to play with or behind her.
It’s something that plagues the woman’s game
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And the men's game. She is noticeably deliberate.
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And the men's game. She is noticeably deliberate.
It’s bad in general with the younger generations getting worse and worse
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Poor parenting and mentoring.
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Poor parenting and mentoring.
I blame the teachers union
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It’s bad in general with the younger generations getting worse and worse
Slow play is an abomination in the college game. It really starts there and carries on.
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Golf teachers. Though, to be fair, she Claud her way to the top so what is the Harmon slow play?
Not quitting the dad jokes.
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Men’s professional golf is a colossal embarrassment
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/takeaways-congressional-hearing-pga-tour-saudi-liv-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM41939&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/takeaways-congressional-hearing-pga-tour-saudi-liv-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM41939&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Congrats to the LIV Golfers who sold the game to the devil
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the AJGA is currently holding big event at merrill hills, waukesha all week. great to see kids from all over the world coming here to learn and to compete on a challenging course.
https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/2022/future-legends-junior-championship/schedule-of-events
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the AJGA is currently holding big event at merrill hills, waukesha all week. great to see kids from all over the world coming here to learn and to compete on a challenging course.
https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/2022/future-legends-junior-championship/schedule-of-events
Too bad they’re playing a dump
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Too bad they’re playing a dump
you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
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you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
Yeah, it’s a dump. I can’t imagine paying membership fees to those places. But when you can’t afford the good places, that’s where you dumpster dive
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-liv-golf-pif-abandoning-provision-prohibiting-recruiting-players-new-york-times-report?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071323&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM42028&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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From The Athletic:
There was a tantalizing proposition hidden inside the PGA Tour’s 276-page dossier submitted to the Senate: As part of golf’s mega-merger, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods would own LIV teams and play in a number of LIV events each year. It honestly sounded amazing, right? Asked about the idea yesterday, McIlroy said plainly: “If LIV Golf was the last place on Earth to play golf, I would retire."
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From The Athletic:
There was a tantalizing proposition hidden inside the PGA Tour’s 276-page dossier submitted to the Senate: As part of golf’s mega-merger, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods would own LIV teams and play in a number of LIV events each year. It honestly sounded amazing, right? Asked about the idea yesterday, McIlroy said plainly: “If LIV Golf was the last place on Earth to play golf, I would retire."
The whole thing is a colossal mess.
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The Lido.
Incredible.
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The Lido.
Incredible.
Is that Sand Valley?
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Is that Sand Valley?
Yes. Needs some time to grow in. Caddies still learning the place. Look forward to playing it in a year or two again after the caddies have some experience and it’s grown in. Still, the layout and play is incredible.
They can’t recreate the ocean presence but the holes themselves are still amazing
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Get up early tomorrow. Gusts to 50 forecast for the final round of the Scottish Open.
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you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
Rico is a member at Augusta.
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Rico is a member at Augusta.
He was invited but turned it down. Dump, a’ina?
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Hellofva golf course, hey?
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He had his pick between Augusta and Pine Valley. He chose Pine Valley because too many people played Augusta.
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Clutch putt for the win by Rory. Great to see.
I was worried that Tom Kim playing #18 like a 15 capper was going to ice him.
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He had his pick between Augusta and Pine Valley. He chose Pine Valley because too many people played Augusta.
I rescinded my Augusta membership after they went woke
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-owgr-delay/amp
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LIV is doomed.
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PGA Tour does not want to roll back ball distance
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-jay-monahan-memo-july-2023
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https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/holy-you-know-what-purdue-golfer-plays-final-15-holes-in-14-under-to-shoot/article_941c7464-2caf-11ee-96cd-b35ba669b0ae.html
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Please put JT on the Ryder Cup team, Zach
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-owgr-delay/amp
cue in steve miller...go on, take the money and run
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Anybody playing any golf this year? Besides Rico at Augusta, Pine Valley, the Lido, Crystal Downs, etc. How are the games coming along? Any tips working for you? Any new sticks paying off?
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got a new titleist tsr-2 and i'm hitting some of the longest drives of my life-seriously! most in the 240-260 range, a few 270-280 but unleashed a 319 bomb in a match play 2 weeks ago- took a pic of the gps to prove to my son the old man still has it...goodbye king cobra. tried the paradym, but it just didn't feel right and i love callaway. fav club in the bag is a rogue 3 hybrid with a pured shaft
remember the equipment we grew up with-woods were real woods.
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got a new titleist tsr-2 and i'm hitting some of the longest drives of my life-seriously! most in the 240-260 range, a few 270-280 but unleashed a 319 bomb in a match play 2 weeks ago- took a pic of the gps to prove to my son the old man still has it...goodbye king cobra. tried the paradym, but it just didn't feel right and i love callaway. fav club in the bag is a rogue 3 hybrid with a pured shaft
remember the equipment we grew up with-woods were real woods.
I only play with hickory shafts and persimmon woods. Still dominate the competition. Pity the men that need to use frying pan drivers and hybrids. Some are men, some are boys, I guess but that’s America going soft
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Anybody playing any golf this year? Besides Rico at Augusta, Pine Valley, the Lido, Crystal Downs, etc. How are the games coming along? Any tips working for you? Any new sticks paying off?
I play 2/3 times a week and practice my short game about 40 mins 2/3 times a week. Usually I alternate between Stanford, Baylands, Shotlreline, and Sharon Heights but recently I've hit Cinnabar which is a fantastic course closer to San Jose. I also try to go to Half Moon Bay about once a month.
The one club I have picked up recently ithat has completely replaced my 3-Wood is an old 2-Hybrid Taylor Made (18 d). I cannot consistently hit the 3 Wood from the deck. It frustrated me on end. I can hammer my 4 hy but thought I'd give the 2 hy a whirl. The results have really helped me on long par 4's and par 5's. I'm hitting a nice little stinging low draw with it and it's giving me some extra umph. I've still kinda plateaued and am about a +7 but I do think I can shed a stroke in due time. I'm extremely confident and consistent around the greens. If I could just find a little more pop and carry with my long i's look the f out. :)
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I am enjoying the carnage at the Senior Open in Wales.
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Considering there were 88's and 89's out there, I doubt any scoopers (other than Rico) break 110.
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Considering there were 88's and 89's out there, I doubt any scoopers (other than Rico) break 110.
Love real links golf. Best part of the year on the golf calendar. Purist form of golf where players have to be creative and disciplined when the weather bucks unlike most of the cookie cutter trash we get on tour like TPC Sod Farm this week. Women are at Walton Heath in two weeks ought to be lots of fun.
It’s too bad they won’t host Ryder Cups because of the lack of infrastructure. Would be awesome
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One of the best times I ever had on a golf course was at the Gailes Course at Lakewood Shores in Oscoda, Michigan. A links style course about a mile inland from Lake Huron. 2006.
On the morning of the last day of the golf trip, we woke up to 30 mph winds and rain. Everybody else left and went home. I asked the pro shop if I was dumb enough to play, were they dumb enough to let me? They said the course drained really well, have at it. I put on all my rain gear, went out and had a blast. 4-5 club winds. Inventing shots I had never tried. 100 yard 8 irons. Punch 3 woods. I had the course to myself. The rain let up after 16 holes and I saw the next group coming out #1 as I was going in #18. 17 years later and I can still picture a few of the most fun shots I have ever hit in my life from that day.
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tower
I have played halfway decent this year. Scoring a bit lower than last year and have enjoyed some fun days. Had a very nice time playing with a couple of scoopers and almost every family member over the past month. I have Erin Hills coming up in a few weeks and looking forward to it.
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I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
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I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
Tower, you must eliminate the abominable snowman. That simply cannot happen for a player at your level. It's analogous to Rowsey missing 4 consecutive free throws.
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That is the goal. Right now, it is the goal for JT, too. In my case, sometimes a hack hacks.
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I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
Been dealing with this same thing all summer, though at 8-10 strokes/round more than you.
Need to decide if I really wanna get good at this or not. With all the family activities it's hard to carve out the time to practice enough to make regular lessons worth the investment.
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I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
Dude, ya know why they call it golf?
All the other 4 letter words are taken, hey?
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I only play with hickory shafts and persimmon woods. Still dominate the competition. Pity the men that need to use frying pan drivers and hybrids. Some are men, some are boys, I guess but that’s America going soft
that's because you are just such an amazing guy making the most interesting man in the world wear shirts with your picture on them
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America’s best golf property is getting better in 2024. This beaut is expected to be the toughest 18 on the property
https://twitter.com/the_fried_egg/status/1686475890715394049?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Sorry, no waterfalls or water fountains to be found
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America’s best golf property is getting better in 2024. This beaut is expected to be the toughest 18 on the property
https://twitter.com/the_fried_egg/status/1686475890715394049?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Sorry, no waterfalls or water fountains to be found
Do you know if Sand Valley and Cabot are the same people? If you haven't been to Cabot Cliffs and NS I'd highly recommend it. I thought there was some connection.
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They are owned by the same group. They also own Bandon Dunes are opening a property in Colorado in the next year or two
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They are owned by the same group. They also own Bandon Dunes are opening a property in Colorado in the next year or two
And they own something in Oregon I think.
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And they own something in Oregon I think.
That’s Bandon Dunes. That’s on the 2024 agenda
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That’s Bandon Dunes. That’s on the 2024 agenda
Me too.
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I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I’ll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he’s been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I’m currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn’t add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron’s old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
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I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I’ll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he’s been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I’m currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn’t add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron’s old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
How far in advance did you book?
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How far in advance did you book?
We put our deposits down in October 2021 so roughly 18 months
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Played Harbortown last week. Beautiful course, but wouldn't put it as worth the price of admission. I'd rather jump on Heron Point if I really wanted to play a Pete Dye while on Hilton Head Island.
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I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I’ll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he’s been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I’m currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn’t add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron’s old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
Swoop
I just signed up for the same “event” at Bandon in ‘24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
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Swoop
I just signed up for the same “event” at Bandon in ‘24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
The shuttle services are supposed to be top notch for Bandon. I thought of going to the US AM in ‘20 and read a lot of positive things about the services
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Swoop
I just signed up for the same “event” at Bandon in ‘24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would’ve liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
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Any course recommendations in the la Quinta, CA area?
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Golf is getting too dangerous.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9871471/bear-video-golf-bag-course/
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bear-ripping-golf-bag-off-cart-and-taking-it-into-the-woods-wildest-horror-movie-of-summer-video
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Played Harbortown last week. Beautiful course, but wouldn't put it as worth the price of admission. I'd rather jump on Heron Point if I really wanted to play a Pete Dye while on Hilton Head Island.
The Trent Jones Ocean Course at Palmetto Dunes is a great track as well.
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Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would’ve liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
Thanks, Swoop - very helpful.
Thanks to Rico also.
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Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would’ve liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
One more question - did you use a caddy on all of the courses? How helpful/necessary was it?
Thanks in advance.
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Muggys favorite golfer, DeCharcuterie, shoots a 58 to win LIV
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38145490/bryson-dechambeau-shoots-liv-golf-first-58-take-victory
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Muggys favorite golfer, DeCharcuterie, shoots a 58 to win LIV
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38145490/bryson-dechambeau-shoots-liv-golf-first-58-take-victory
Do we count this Herman? I'm not sure we can.
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Do we count this Herman? I'm not sure we can.
How does it not count? He shot a 58 in a professional tournament at a course that used to host PGA events and at a club that hosted a Ryder Cup. Not like he played some joke course with special rules. A 58 in a tournament is insane and taking anything away from it cause you don’t like the guy and its on the LIV tour is silly.
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How does it not count? He shot a 58 in a professional tournament at a course that used to host PGA events and at a club that hosted a Ryder Cup. Not like he played some joke course with special rules. A 58 in a tournament is insane and taking anything away from it cause you don’t like the guy and its on the LIV tour is silly.
Does this mean he's on the Ryder Cup team?
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No.
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No.
I noticed the scores were on the low, low, low side for the LIV people.
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Tower,
Who would you choose for the RC if you were the Cpt?
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One more question - did you use a caddy on all of the courses? How helpful/necessary was it?
Thanks in advance.
I took a caddy 2 out of the 5 rounds but there was always a caddy in the group because some of the guys took one every round. They were helpful, especially with the wind and them knowing the yardage to play with the wind. They also have free push carts which I used the other 3 rounds so I wasn’t carrying my bag.
Overall I’d recommend taking one or at least making sure there’s one in the group
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Please put JT on the Ryder Cup team, Zach
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Did you see your boy's final attempt to qualify for the playoffs yesterday? Wow.
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I took a caddy 2 out of the 5 rounds but there was always a caddy in the group because some of the guys took one every round. They were helpful, especially with the wind and them knowing the yardage to play with the wind. They also have free push carts which I used the other 3 rounds so I wasn’t carrying my bag.
Overall I’d recommend taking one or at least making sure there’s one in the group
Much obliged
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Wow. Ally Ewing is obliterating this course. Up 7 at the Women's Open.
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Bogied the last. She's doomed.
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Bogied the last. She's doomed.
Problems. :)
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Bogied the last. She's doomed.
I apparently jinxed her!
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LIV teams gaining sponsors
https://www.livgolf.com/news/fireballs-gc-and-mexico-infrastructure-partners-announce-multi-year
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Phil's team picking up all the betting sites?
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Tiger seen without walking boot…..
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/8/12/23829670/tiger-woods-without-walking-boot-fans-excited
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This should be a fun round at the Women's Open. Great looking course.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/deadly-lahaina-wildfires-hit-close-home-for-collin-morikawa-hes-donating-money-to-help/amp
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Vu with a dominant win. She's the 1st American to win two majors in the same year since 2000. She seriously dropped the hammer with a 67 and a 6 shot win.
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Quite the mercurial year for her.
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Quite the mercurial year for her.
True. She's #1 in the world right now.
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Looks like Nick Hardy will just miss making the top 50 - so no coming home to play in Chicago. On Thursday he hit a 360 yard drive through the fairway on 18. It hit the cart path just past it and bounced out of bounds. The 2 stroke penalty that ensued will likely cost him. Bummer.
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Just saw Glover mark an 8" putt and clean the ball before tapping in.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7buckytFnpXail0Y/giphy.gif)
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Yelling at a pro to 'pull it' in the middle of their putting stroke over a $3 bet. Pathetic. Homa and his caddie were right to yell at the guy that he was a ( ) clown.
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Yelling at a pro to 'pull it' in the middle of their putting stroke over a $3 bet. Pathetic. Homa and his caddie were right to yell at the guy that he was a ( ) clown.
Huh?? How stupid. I assume he was dismissed from the course?
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Hovland the victor.
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Hovland the victor.
A Sunday back 9 that is one for the history books. Hovland has looked like that “next great player” for awhile. Today he took a giant step in that direction.
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28 on the back nine is crazy good. 7 birdies. I’ve played that course a bunch. It is very difficult.
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they had that course set up like the us open. the rough was enough to make you write bad checks
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/erik-compton-arrested-pga-tour-2023
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He must have had an unfortunate change of heart.
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Rory, describing Scheffler's game, how he has all the shots...."he hits those little bunt cuts with his driver".....
That is a phrase I would be terrified to say in public, let alone multiple times in a live interview. Hell, I double checked after typing it.
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Rory, describing Scheffler's game, how he has all the shots...."he hits those little bunt cuts with his driver".....
That is a phrase I would be terrified to say in public, let alone multiple times in a live interview. Hell, I double checked after typing it.
To be fair, C U Next Tuesday has a much different tenor in the UK/Ireland. Toss it around like "idiot". Rory is far more polished and isn't daft enough to say it in an interview, even accidentally, but point being he likely doesn't have the fear of it hardwired like Americans might.
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americandunesgolfclub.com
Played it today. Much of the time, it feels like there is more sand than turf. Optical illusion. Very firm greens. Fascinating backstory. The sand in the bunkers is thick and heavy, unlike anything I have played before. I should have spent a moment in a greenside bunker in the practice area. Or more time hitting irons so I missed the bunkers.
Highly recommend it.
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When did people start playing golf regularly? I took lessons as a young child and I think I was just interested in more active sports, so I wasn't super interested and my parents weren't pushing me. Now as an adult it'd be a good excuse to be outside when it's nice out, but I'm so bad and so self conscious about slowing people down that actually play, plus it's an expensive hobby to suck at.
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13.
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americandunesgolfclub.com
Played it today. Much of the time, it feels like there is more sand than turf. Optical illusion. Very firm greens. Fascinating backstory. The sand in the bunkers is thick and heavy, unlike anything I have played before. I should have spent a moment in a greenside bunker in the practice area. Or more time hitting irons so I missed the bunkers.
Highly recommend it.
I was supposed to play Kent CC, American Dunes, and Pilgrims Run 2 weeks ago. Had it planned for a couple months and at the last minute my buddy’s wife made us cancel. They live in GR so we were gonna stay with them. I guess she didn’t want us to have fun that weekend
Looking forward to playing it eventually
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I am so sick of seeing the Points Bet Paige Spiranac commercial. I'm embarrassed for all involved.
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I was supposed to play Kent CC, American Dunes, and Pilgrims Run 2 weeks ago. Had it planned for a couple months and at the last minute my buddy’s wife made us cancel. They live in GR so we were gonna stay with them. I guess she didn’t want us to have fun that weekend
Looking forward to playing it eventually
Kent CC is very old school. Beautifully maintained. Landlocked, so not as long as some others. I haven't played it in a few years, but when I did it had the fastest greens I have ever played.
American Dunes, hit it straight. Don't be afraid to judicially lay up off the tee. The ball does not check. Like 20-30 feet of runout from a well struck wedge. Green speeds posted, 10.6 today.
And if you get to GR (or what is left of it after tonight), message me. I love meeting scoopers.
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Hail to the Victor.
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Hail to the Victor.
Hovland has played consistently solid golf for quite a while. Nice to see him get the big payday for it.
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A Sunday back 9 that is one for the history books. Hovland has looked like that “next great player” for awhile. Today he took a giant step in that direction.
And today he made it official.
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And today he made it official.
The cash is nice, but it’s no major.
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He'll get one. He learned at the PGA.
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He'll get one. He learned at the PGA.
Masters too
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtNVtaEtTj3/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Praying for Gary and His Family
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gary-woodland-undergoing-brain-surgery/amp
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Praying for Gary and His Family
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gary-woodland-undergoing-brain-surgery/amp
DITTOS!! one of the best human beings on tour
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Very enjoyable time watching MU golf team at Erin Hills. The level of talent is very impressive. Great field and the good guys still have a chance heading into the back side. Highly recommend any golf fans to attend next year.
I will say it is beyond hot out here. Played here a couple of weeks ago on a 90+ day and even hotter today.
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Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
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tower
That is great tournament. A golfing friend of mine played in pro am yesterday and his son is coach Army, I believe. I need to check that out.
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Goose, you would really enjoy the stories told. The course is really good, too.
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Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
Are there waterfalls on the course?
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No.
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No.
That’s a good thing. Courses with waterfalls or water fountains are 💯 trash
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Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
Folds of Honor is a fantastic golf course concept. Honoring our fallen and disabled service men and women.
An excellent collegiate event as well.
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Trump sells leasehold interest in Bronx Golf Course to Ballys. Ballys want to develop Casino in the city.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/donald-trump-unloads-bronx-golf-course-to-ballys-casino-chain-sources/
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Trump sells leasehold interest in Vronx Golf Course to Ballys. Ballys want to develop Casino in the city.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/donald-trump-unloads-bronx-golf-course-to-ballys-casino-chain-sources/
Course will thrive now it’s not associated with a felon
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Course will thrive now it’s not associated with a felon
Convicted? Never convicted.
(https://media.vlipsy.com/vlips/khJwPHvO/preview.jpg)
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Convicted? Never convicted.
(https://media.vlipsy.com/vlips/khJwPHvO/preview.jpg)
Fine, getting a rapists name off the course will help
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Course will thrive now it’s not associated with a felon
Da Buffoon is associated wit da course, hey?
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He was. He sold it.
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Bryson DeCharcuterie wins LIV Golf Chicago event
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-chicago-dechambeau-crushers-sweep-both-titles
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I would rather hear about Lenny's round with Rico.
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https://x.com/mmccarthyrev/status/1707115738882863488?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Stunning
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Karmic
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Competition for PGA Tour /LIV merger
https://nypost.com/2023/09/28/pga-investors-emerge-to-rival-liv/amp/
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At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
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At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
My phone didnt give me an "alert". It's a new phone, too. Guess I'll be the only human left, like I am Legend.
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At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
I get a few of them a week
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Rickie and Lexi pairing up as a team in the Grant Thornton mixed-pairs event in December. Couldn’t imagine a better team.
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Rickie and Lexi pairing up as a team in the Grant Thornton mixed-pairs event in December. Couldn’t imagine a better team.
Cobra-Puma 4 Life
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LIV loses bid for World Golf Ranking points.
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Good. I play in outings with shotgun starts and no real drama and I don't get ranking points.
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LIV loses bid for World Golf Ranking points.
LIV golfers probably fine cashing Saudi checks as the Saudi’s support Hamas.
Will Trump Golf Properties stand in solidarity with Israel and not allow LIV events on their courses? Will any courses let LIV events play on their courses while the Saudi’s support Hamas?
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Kids will say the darnedest things
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-shakes-head-in-response-question-from-hole-in-one-kid-video/amp
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Kids will say the darnedest things
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-shakes-head-in-response-question-from-hole-in-one-kid-video/amp
Any comment from LIV golfers taking checks from the Saudi government who supports Hamas?
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Lexi Thompson strategy at Shriners worked well
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-driver-distance-pga-tour-shriners-hospitals-for-children-open?utm_medium=email&utm_source=101423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45079&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Lexi Thompson strategy at Shriners worked well
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-driver-distance-pga-tour-shriners-hospitals-for-children-open?utm_medium=email&utm_source=101423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45079&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Any comment from the LIV golfers about Saudi blaming Israel last weekend?
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Brooks Koepka rises to top of LIV leaderboard in Saudi Arabia after round two.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-jeddah-presented-by-roshn-koepka-eyes-repeat-gooch-projected-no-1
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Brooks Koepka rises to top of LIV leaderboard in Saudi Arabia after round two.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-jeddah-presented-by-roshn-koepka-eyes-repeat-gooch-projected-no-1
Did Brooks comment on the Saudi support for Hamas?
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Did Brooks comment on the Saudi support for Hamas?
Said he was a Democrat so he also blamed the Israelis.
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Said he was a Democrat so he also blamed the Israelis.
Wow. Thought he’d give unwavering support like the current administration
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Wow. Thought he’d give unwavering support like the current administration
Good one. Love your shtick.
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Got a round of golf in at Nicklaus course in Delhi, India yesterday. Drove 1.5 hours on rough roads and poverty to arrive at the club, and it looked like Palm Springs. Really is a tale of two worlds in India.
Course was decent and pretty good condition. Only people playing was about 4-5 foursomes of Koreans. They definitely take the game very seriously.
Wish I could say that played well, but funky grass and rental clubs made for a long day. Giving my caddie a big tip was the highlight of the day.
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Got a round of golf in at Nicklaus course in Delhi, India yesterday. Drove 1.5 hours on rough roads and poverty to arrive at the club, and it looked like Palm Springs. Really is a tale of two worlds in India.
Course was decent and pretty good condition. Only people playing was about 4-5 foursomes of Koreans. They definitely take the game very seriously.
Wish I could say that played well, but funky grass and rental clubs made for a long day. Giving my caddie a big tip was the highlight of the day.
What are your thoughts on Nicklaus courses? Not a fan personally of his courses
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His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
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His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
The Bull in Wisconsin is a terrible course that coasts on his name and the price point. There are so many options in this state for championship style courses, I’d put the Bull way down the list of courses to play. So many of his courses are built with his game in mind than a pure playability for all types of players.
I have heard nothing but good things about the Michigan courses, though
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When was The Bull built?
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When was The Bull built?
2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It’s a bad course, too
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His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
In the early days, the clients requested that Jack design difficult courses . Some with hopes of attracting a professional tournament . The Bear was a classic example. So was The Club at Wynstone in North Barrington, IL An impossible course at the time for the club members .
As time went by, the clients developing golf course communities realized that hard courses were driving away business. A modern flexible design was then adapted y the Nicklaus design company.
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2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It’s a bad course, too
The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
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The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
Palmer has another course in Lake Geneva. More playable but the greens are bad. That’s probably on course maintenance, though
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2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It’s a bad course, too
Man, the Bog STINKS. I’m always amazed when people in SE WI were amped to play there, if it a first timer
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First time I heard anybody say something good about Harbor Shores. Universally panned by our group of not very good golfers.
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Man, the Bog STINKS. I’m always amazed when people in SE WI were amped to play there, if it a first timer
There’s a few good holes on it but generally, it’s not good. Save a few bucks and play Washington County
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There’s a few good holes on it but generally, it’s not good. Save a few bucks and play Washington County
The most underrated course in the area for a good 20 years at least
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The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
Played King’s Crossing a lot back in the day when I was a junior golfer. Had a family house on Little Traverse. Our lake neighbor would come with, he always promised to take me to his course down the lakeshore when I got to high school.
He died when I was in 8th grade unfortunately. It wasn’t until 6-7 years ago I realized he was talking about Crystal Downs.
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I had an in at Crystal Downs for about a year. Co-worker's bil was a greenskeeper there. Just trying to sync the schedule.
Then.......divorce. Noooooooooooo!
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I had an in at Crystal Downs for about a year. Co-worker's bil was a greenskeeper there. Just trying to sync the schedule.
Then.......divorce. Noooooooooooo!
Ugh.
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First time I heard anybody say something good about Harbor Shores. Universally panned by our group of not very good golfers.
Too hard? Too easy? Too gimmicky? Poor conditioning?
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RIP Ivor Robeson, the voice of the Open
https://x.com/theopen/status/1714197969681981688?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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RIP Ivor Robeson, the voice of the Open
https://x.com/theopen/status/1714197969681981688?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
A high class individual. Always looked forward to hearing his announcements .
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Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
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Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
Very disappointing the front runner for the Republican Party presidential race is hosting a Saudi sponsored sporting event when they have publicly blamed Israel for what happened on October 7th and aren’t supporting their activities in Gaza. Actions speak louder than words.
Guess some people would rather line their pocketbooks instead of doing the right thing
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Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
Bryson Dechambeau team won the team championship. Pocketed $14 million
I think next year no events will be held at Trump Courses and more international where the interest level is strong
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How many OWGR points for playing a joke format in front of tiny crowds?
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https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
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https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Any time MU Basketball, Playboy and Golf are in the same article it is well worth reading 8-)
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https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Sorry. Won’t read. As a Christian and family values believer, I won’t indulge in anything glorifying filth like Playboy
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Sorry. Won’t read. As a Christian and family values believer, I won’t indulge in anything glorifying filth like Playboy
Won’t even step on property at Grand Geneva. Too much history of sin.
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Won’t even step on property at Grand Geneva. Too much history of sin.
Yup. Typical Walworth sleaze.
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Yup. Typical Walworth sleaze.
I keep a close eye on that Kikkomann factory. Can’t just be making soy sauce there, wonder if the Buffon’s son visits.
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I keep a close eye on that Kikkomann factory. Can’t just be making soy sauce there, wonder if the Buffon’s son visits.
Probably. The crime family has long arms and walworth is a crime-ridden cesspool
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LIV Teams are attracting some acquistion interest.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-pros-and-cons-of-investing-in-a-liv-golf-team
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LIV Teams are attracting some acquistion interest.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-pros-and-cons-of-investing-in-a-liv-golf-team
Uh, huh
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A minor Marquette reference buried in this story. It's a good read.
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
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PGA Tour rejects outside investor proposal. I guess they like The LIV deal better .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/endeavor-pulls-bid-pga-tour-2023-pif?utm_medium=email&utm_source=102923&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45539&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Nice story, Tower - thanks for sharing.
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https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
What's related and/or not related was I just went to a wedding (my wife's goddaughter) in Vernon, NJ at The Farm at Glenwood Mountain 4 weeks ago. It's in the same town as the golf course. You would never know you were in New Jersey in that part of the state.
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Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I’ve played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it’s an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
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Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I’ve played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it’s an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
Huh
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Jockey
That takes balls to admit that in golf thread. Explains a lot.
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Jockey
That takes balls to admit that in golf thread. Explains a lot.
People can like what I say or not, but it’ll always be the truth.
BTW, you and Unc showed a ton of restraint.
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Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I’ve played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it’s an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
Surprised the weather didn’t give it away. Can get wet out there.
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did anyone know nick p. back in the day? nice writer
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Cam Smith has a modest final round and finishes second in the Hong Kong open. Needs as many high finishes as possible in non LIV events to accumulate OWGR points. Doesn't necessarily matter for him as much as others because he has 5 year major exemption from British Open win. I think British Open gives winners exemption till age 60
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www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
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www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
Max Homa wins the Nedbank on the DP World Tour. Good to see Max take his game on the road and get a win.
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www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=f_2hpDdBuSb5px43&v=NDVAQE7nplU&feature=youtu.be
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Rory resigning from Tour Board. Hopefully this gives him more time to work on his game
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/rory-mcilroy-resigns-pga-tour-board-2023/amp
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tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
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tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
Take home over Fowler at the President’s Cup
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tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
Pfft, Class 1A, basically beating out Sister Mary’s School for the Blind
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Zinger out at NBC. He was pretty bad. Wonder who replaces him
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Zinger out at NBC. He was pretty bad. Wonder who replaces him
Pretty bad is an understatement. He was the worst color guy providing commentary on any sport on a major network.
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Tiger to play in his own tournament.
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Tiger to play in his own tournament.
I think Tiger will win a Tournament in the coming year. He is walking well again, which means he is the best player in Professional Golf again.
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Not anymore.
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I think Tiger will win a Tournament in the coming year. He is walking well again, which means he is the best player in Professional Golf again.
No one’s going to chomp on bait that stinky Herm.
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Aberg and Hojgaard double dip weekend
Cantlay and X about to joint the bone saw tour
Team Europe looking pretty good
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If Tiger finishes four rounds of a tournament, I'd call that a win.
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Burmester qualifies for British Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/dean-burmester-joburn-open-liv-golfer-dp-world-tour-british-open-qualifying
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rahm being offered $600 million to join LIV
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rahm being offered $600 million to join LIV
Will he sell his soul to join anti-semites?
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Will he sell his soul to join anti-semites?
Or will he stick with the Islamaphobics?
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Or will he stick with the Islamaphobics?
Which are?
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Will he sell his soul to join anti-semites?
Which are?
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Which are?
The Saudi’s who are funding LIV
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The Saudi’s who are funding LIV
The same Saudi Arabia that is working on and close to a peace deal to make Israel an ally?
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The same Saudi Arabia that is working on and close to a peace deal to make Israel an ally?
The same ones who blamed Israel for October 7?
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Has anyone ever sent a Scotty Cameron back in for refinishing? I've been kicking it around for a few years, but always worry it will change the putter. And I've had it in the bag for 20+ years.
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That is a very gracious host, letting everyone else have a nice head start.
Tiger looked solid for a lot of the round. A lot of rust to get rid of.
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That is a very gracious host, letting everyone else have a nice head start.
Tiger looked solid for a lot of the round. A lot of rust to get rid of.
He even lost to Flower. Embarrassing
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He finished. Victory.
He won't win. Walking 72 holes will be a lot of steps forward.
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He finished. Victory.
He won't win. Walking 72 holes will be a lot of steps forward.
I’m just glad he hasn’t sold out an is using a cart. Carts are for the old, lazy and fat.
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Amen.
Also for the geographically inhospitable.
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Amen.
Also for the geographically inhospitable.
Just call it as it is, bad design.
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Some courses, due to the land on which they are built, have a half mile and a couple hundred feet of elevation between holes. I played over 100 rounds of golf, 75% of them walking. There are some courses that you look at and say 'nah, give me the cart.'
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Some courses, due to the land on which they are built, have a half mile and a couple hundred feet of elevation between holes. I played over 100 rounds of golf, 75% of them walking. There are some courses that you look at and say 'nah, give me the cart.'
Not the easiest thing to say, but should a course have been built there then?
I’ll concede to special circumstances, such as Harbor Shores utilizing the old industrial corridor, but part of great architecture shouldn’t necessitate a cart. If you need a cart, did the course really fit the lay of land or is it overdone and forced?
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I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
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I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
I’m good with those, for the most part. Arnie’s course off Sugarfoot was lousy.
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Tigers ankle held up. Once he gets back in form he should back to his winning ways.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39015336/tiger-woods-returns-competitive-golf-squirrely-75-soreness
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I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
It’s why I love Sand Valley so much. Not a golf cart in sight. Pace of play enforced and never an issue.
Go to places that charge $150 or so to play with golf carts parking next to greens, wrong side of greens and on tee boxes and rounds taking 5+ hours.
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I am in for Sand Valley.
The Loop was originally walking only. And if ever there was a resort course to walk, it is the Loop. They eventually gave into pressure and allowed carts.
I don't have heroes. The closest I have come recently was a couple of years ago seeing an 80 year old golfer walking and pushing a cart. I walked up to this complete stranger and told him I wanted to be like him when I grew up and that he was an inspiration.
His reply, "I've got to get in as many rounds walking as I can, because I am leaving for Florida soon and those a$$holes down there always make me take a cart."
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I am in for Sand Valley.
The Loop was originally walking only. And if ever there was a resort course to walk, it is the Loop. They eventually gave into pressure and allowed carts.
I don't have heroes. The closest I have come recently was a couple of years ago seeing an 80 year old golfer walking and pushing a cart. I walked up to this complete stranger and told him I wanted to be like him when I grew up and that he was an inspiration.
His reply, "I've got to get in as many rounds walking as I can, because I am leaving for Florida soon and those a$$holes down there always make me take a cart."
I was playing a Milwaukee county course about 15 years ago. It’s 95 and humid as hell. I’m hungover as hell and plopped in a cart with a buddy of mine who is in the same predicament. We get a single sent out with us. It’s a guy about 80 plus with the bag umbrella and he’s walking. I am thinking he’ll slow us down.
He not only outplays us, he informs us he was recently released from the hospital after heart surgery and his doctor told him to exercise but take it easy. He walks 18 in the heat on a course with some up and down.
Did I feel like a lazy oaf
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Tiger with a solid 70 today including a triple. Shaking off the rust .
Continue to believe it is possible for him to win this year . He is only playing a handful of majors and his event at Riviera .
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He alluded to 'once a month'. The majors, Players and Riviera?
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He alluded to 'once a month'. The majors, Players and Riviera?
I think that is his max he said he would play.
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Golf ball distance rollback coming. I applaud this. The game was getting too easy.
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Golf ball distance rollback coming. I applaud this. The game was getting too easy.
All the right people are mad. Kudos to the USGA and R & A
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Here in Colorado, courses have to mandate carts or risk losing significant tee times (revenue) due to slow play of walking some of these courses. Also, some of you 'flat-landers' cant handle the lack of oxygen 8-).
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Tiger with a -1 71 today. Continues to make slow solid progress.
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Has anyone ever sent a Scotty Cameron back in for refinishing? I've been kicking it around for a few years, but always worry it will change the putter. And I've had it in the bag for 20+ years.
great question, sorry no one had an answer for you B. i'm a stroke lab guy and my wife's scotty is only a year old, so too new for refinishing...i hope ;)
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As a change, I enjoy watching the men and women play the same course at the same time from different tees.
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As a change, I enjoy watching the men and women play the same course at the same time from different tees.
The Aussie Open deserves more love from the world’s top golfers. Tiger’s cash grab needs to move weekends. Pretty disgraceful Jason Day is playing that.
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Joaquin Niemann wins Australian Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/joaquin-niemann-australian-open-playoff-win-top-50-world-ranking-british-open/amp
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Tiger with a -1 71 today. Continues to make slow solid progress.
Build his confidence for when he’s contending on the Champions Tour
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I agree with Chamblee in regards to the ball distance rollback.
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I agree with Chamblee in regards to the ball distance rollback.
His stance solidifies my belief it’s the right choice
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Your stance convinces me he is right.
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Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge
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Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge
I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.
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The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
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The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph ball speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
Tiger and Rory are for it.
Done deal
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Tiger and Rory are for it.
Done deal
Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.
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Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.
Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight
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The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.
I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.
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If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.
I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.
Could’ve just bifurcated, but we can’t have nice things.
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I have in the past. I played many different balls over the lastcouple of years. And your thoughts parallel mine.
And who knows, maybe the governing bodies ARE trying to get the casual weekend booze hounds out of the game.
My question about bifurcation is where does the line get drawn? High School tournaments? USGA junior tourneys? County amateurs?
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Could’ve just bifurcated, but we can’t have nice things.
Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.
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Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight
I got a good laugh at him saying that the average guy isn't going to miss 5-10 yards off the tee. I'll remember that when I see his next TaylorMade driver ad, lol.
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IMO, you will see more graphite shafts, a little less stiff, with more stable heads/faces, combined with lower compression golf balls. Yup, it will cost you, but I think it will be possible to largely negate it for the average Joe.
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Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.
Which is good. We need to shrink the game
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Which is good. We need to shrink the game
Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.
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Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.
Thank god
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I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.
He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.
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He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.
I wonder
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Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.
https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e
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Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.
https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e
Men’s professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.
Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV. Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?
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While.golfing today, I realized that the golf ball rollback will make.my summer.yardages look like my spring and fall yardages. I can manage that.
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Men’s professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.
Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV. Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?
Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
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Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
https://x.com/daniel_rapaport/status/1732817218264834443?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Truly incredible.
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Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
https://www.si.com/golf/news/pga-tour-tournament-officials-see-trouble-ahead-as-costs-spiral
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Rahm to LIV really is disappointing to me. Sad day in golf, IMO.
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It pisses me off and will diminish the PGA tour. It is still not enough to make me watch, or even care about, LIV.
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tower
I am pissed off at everyone involved. I will not be watching LIV again this year and likely watching a lot less of the PGA.
Who else do you think is going to take the money and run?
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Cantlay.
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tower
I am pissed off at everyone involved. I will not be watching LIV again this year and likely watching a lot less of the PGA.
Who else do you think is going to take the money and run?
If Rahm got assurance his Ryder Cup status was safe, a whole lotta European players gunna be gone.
LPGA is better viewing anyway
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Rico
Great point. The PGA is in a very difficult position, and I do think they have the leadership to keep up from sinking completely.
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I see myself watching golf from Kapalua to the Masters, then majors only.
I used to watch every weekend when I had a moment.
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Rahm to LIV is good for CW Sports
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Rahm to LIV is good for CW Sports
No, it’s not.
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If Rahm got assurance his Ryder Cup status was safe, a whole lotta European players gunna be gone.
LPGA is better viewing anyway
You’re very right.
You’re very wrong.
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I like the LPGA because their yardages are way closer to mine. 200 yard 7-irons? GTFO!
Agree with Tower and Goose sentiments. I can't see myself ever getting invested in LIV. Maybe the younger generation will. IDK.
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Norman has destroyed golf. I've only been watching the LPGA.
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I'll watch the majors, and that's it.
Kolek 'em.
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Norman has destroyed golf. I've only been watching the LPGA.
sorry to disagree here muggs, but i think jay monahan destroyed PGA golf. monahan sat back smuggly(no pun intended muggs) and dared anyone to crap in his litter box. while he was doing that, they(PGA) sat on a big steaming pile of money short of full disclosure.
many of the players are like...what do ya got down there?? rightly or wrongly, monahan tried to play dictator and picked and chose who were in his "club" tiger, mcllroy, speith?, thomas?, scheffler??, and even with those, once the latest ruling on LIV vs PGA came out, lil rory was royally p!ssed off because of how much $$ he left on the table. what the hell, tiger doesn't need the money so he's just going along to get along.
monahan severely over played his hand here
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After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
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After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
I don’t disagree but the sport is gross
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Outside of the PGA-LIV politics, genuinely happy for Rahm. He’s a good dude, entertaining and incredible competitor, and been the most consistent top player in the world for almost 5 years, and now he’s getting generational wealth. Vamos Jefe
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After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
Every time something happens that makes a sport more lucrative for the athletes people boycott and claim that the sport’s death knell is around the corner.
Curt Flood and free agency, the AFL, the ABA, the WHA, NIL and now LIV - people stomp their feet, boycott or even whine that they’ll become fans of women’s versions of the sport. LOL, never happens.
After a bit, the sports end up stronger and more successful as the organizations that govern them become more player friendly.
A few Scoopers can boycott men’s golf (or at least say they will) but everything will turn out fine in the end. The Saudi money isn’t all that more dirty than the cash that’s been fueling the engine forever. But it does give people a chance to jump on a moral high horse - a favorite hobby around here.
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Yea, I'm not sure I can really blame Rahm here. I think the PGA lost the moral high ground when agreeing to a deal with PIF. I'm guessing that was the major change for Rahm along with LIV maybe accepting some of his format changes.
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Every time something happens that makes a sport more lucrative for the athletes people boycott and claim that the sport’s death knell is around the corner.
Curt Flood and free agency, the AFL, the ABA, the WHA, NIL and now LIV - people stomp their feet, boycott or even whine that they’ll become fans of women’s versions of the sport. LOL, never happens.
After a bit, the sports end up stronger and more successful as the organizations that govern them become more player friendly.
A few Scoopers can boycott men’s golf (or at least say they will) but everything will turn out fine in the end. The Saudi money isn’t all that more dirty than the cash that’s been fueling the engine forever. But it does give people a chance to jump on a moral high horse - a favorite hobby around here.
Golf is a niche sport, unlike the major sports. The current split is akin to the IRL/Cart split of the mid-90’s and that sport has yet to recover. Golf, unlike the NFL which yields massive ratings and return on investment by advertisers will never be able to function as a sport where individuals are being paid guaranteed money of over $100 million a player.
As far as becoming a fan of the woman’s game, my posting history clearly shows my interest in the woman’s game has always been real and will continue to be real. Not all sports fans are chauvinistic pigs.
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Lenny
My only issue with Liv is not seeing the best payers compete on a regular basis. Don't care where the money is coming from and never fault a guy for hitting score. I feel badly that a sport that I have enjoyed my entire life is very messed up and it pisses me off.
I will not boycott watching the PGA but my interest level for low end tournament probably will be close to zero. Likely will not be watching Liv any time soon.
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I watched as much LPGA golf on non-major weekends as I did PGA golf. I spent 100x more time watching either than I did watching college football. I sent zero time watching LIV golf. I do not envision any of those things changing going forward.
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I watched as much LPGA golf on non-major weekends as I did PGA golf.
And some people watch as much WNBA as NBA. But not many.
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Their loss.
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As far as becoming a fan of the woman’s game, my posting history clearly shows my interest in the woman’s game has always been real and will continue to be real. Not all sports fans are chauvinistic pigs.
LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women’s softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
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LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women’s softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
And? Who said otherwise?
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LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women’s softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
Thank you, Archie Bunker.
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Thank you, Archie Bunker.
You’re welcome, Meathead.
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Proudly.
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Thank you, Archie Bunker.
Ben Wright.
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Wells Fargo dropping its PGA Tour event sponsorship. The tour is not healthy.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39071992/long-pga-tour-host-wells-fargo-renew-deal-2024#
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I like the LPGA because their yardages are way closer to mine. 200 yard 7-irons? GTFO!
Agree with Tower and Goose sentiments. I can't see myself ever getting invested in LIV. Maybe the younger generation will. IDK.
The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women’s team plays at a level closer to yours than the men’s team. Which would you rather watch?
I’m 75 year’s old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women’s tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm’s or Rory’s. But I’d rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
I watch women’s sports including some LPGA and a lot of Olympic sports. But I watch much, much more men’s sports. Tower calls that being Archie Bunker. Fair folks call it being a sports fan.
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The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women’s team plays at a level closer to yours than the men’s team. Which would you rather watch?
I’m 75 year’s old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women’s tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm’s or Rory’s. But I’d rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
The average LPGA player is way closer to Rahm or Rory than the average male golfer is to the average LPGA player.
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As is being shown in this weekend's tournament.
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My favorite social media trope is some dude saying he’s a scratch golfer saying he could hang with women on the LPGA tour or some random dude saying he could hang with women’s tennis players
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The average LPGA player is way closer to Rahm or Rory than the average male golfer is to the average LPGA player.
Absolutely true - the average male golfer sucks at golf. Elite female athletes in any sport are much closer to their male counterparts than the average guy on the street player is to them. Who’s disputed that?
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Enjoying the heck out of the Grant Thornton
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Enjoying the heck out of the Grant Thornton
You be you, hey?
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Always and proudly.
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Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
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You be you, hey?
What’s wrong with the Grant Thornton?
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What’s wrong with the Grant Thornton?
He's a Crowe Horwath loyalist
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Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
pga was lazy and not proactive. they did nothing to protect their brand while sitting on a mountain of money. they forgot about one minor detail-the players. without them, they are nada
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The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women’s team plays at a level closer to yours than the men’s team. Which would you rather watch?
I’m 75 year’s old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women’s tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm’s or Rory’s. But I’d rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
I watch women’s sports including some LPGA and a lot of Olympic sports. But I watch much, much more men’s sports. Tower calls that being Archie Bunker. Fair folks call it being a sports fan.
You have some gapping issues you might want to look into.
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https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/2023-liv-golf-promotions-event-leaderboard-20-golfers-sunday/
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https://twitter.com/dylan_dethier/status/1734045158105387146?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
Nyet. Nein. Nope. Not this year.
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Super cool news for Sand Valley
https://x.com/usga/status/1734604025969131864?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Great news for Sand Valley. Watching top amateur golf in person is very enjoyable imo. We are very lucky to get these events in WI.
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Great news for Sand Valley. Watching top amateur golf in person is very enjoyable imo. We are very lucky to get these events in WI.
I’ll probably volunteer at the Mid-Am.
Sedge Valley opens in ‘24. Supposed to be the hardest course on the property. Par-68. Can’t wait to get back
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Rico
Great call on mid am volunteering. I will likely do the same.
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Rico
Great call on mid am volunteering. I will likely do the same.
That one is on the Lido. I can’t wait to see how they play it.
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I’ll probably volunteer at the Mid-Am.
Sedge Valley opens in ‘24. Supposed to be the hardest course on the property. Par-68. Can’t wait to get back
Ya sure der gonna want ewe, hey?
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Ya sure der gonna want ewe, hey?
Yup. Proud member and volunteer for the USGA
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https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-tax-filings-cost-golf-civil-wa/?amp=1
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ya'll see charlie woods over shoots a par 4 hits the green 321 and rolls off
LIV gonna be calling
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-outdrives-green-impresses-dad-f-ing-nasty-shot
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ya'll see charlie woods over shoots a par 4 hits the green 321 and rolls off
LIV gonna be calling
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-outdrives-green-impresses-dad-f-ing-nasty-shot
If he’s like his father, he has too much respect for the game of golf to sellout
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If he’s like his father, he has too much respect for the game of golf to sellout
yes, probably, but never hurts to a$k, plus it's hard to predict where the pga is going. they have some serious PR boo-boos to bs their way out of. as long as you have some pga stalwarts-jack et.al. around, they may weather the storm. once some of these big guns are gone, they better have their "place" in order. do not take them for granted. that was mistake #1, 2 & 3. i will bet you rory with a few hot toddies in him will tell ya he's a little more than "disappointed" with how "things" have played out
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PNC Championship is more interesting than football.
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Several players who remain behind are benefitting from Jon Rahm heading to LIV
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2023/12/11/rahm-is-suspended-by-the-pga-tour-the-formality-is-a-boon-for-mackenzie-hughes-and-carl-yuan/71886627007/
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https://www.si.com/golf/news/the-time-has-come-for-jay-monahan-resign-commissioner-pga-tour
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I vote for Rico.
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I vote for Rico.
I agree with this analysis
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I vote for Rico.
One of the few people I trust to shrink the game.
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Predictions from De Charcuterie
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/bryson-dechambeau-pga-tour-liv-31736793?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
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2024 Looking to be a solid to potentially excellent season for Tiger. Working on getting game ready. Looking to play once a month. I think he will be in contention on the back 9 Final round at Augusta .
https://golf.com/news/tiger-woods-2023-return-different/?amp=1
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Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
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Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
Favorite Personal Golf Moments of Year for me are limited. I have been only playing at a Multi Day Corporate Outing at Pinehurst in recent years. In the process of converting to Old Man Style Golf. The highlight this year was I was able to par a hole on my own ball on Pinehurst number 2. Everyone else had a bad drive in that native scrub, so we had to use my old man drive , everyone else went into deep bunker where flag was close to bunker, so we had to use my old man approach far away from the bunker and hole and then I two putted from the fringe.
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Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
My highlight was being in the team room with the European Team at the Ryder Cup
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Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
Thats amazing.
My friend belonged to a club when I was a teenager. Head pro was really cool, used to let us go off and play a quick 9 towards the end of days. One late afternoon, we go off, get through 6, playing the par 5 7th and the cranky assistant pro comes out to yell at us. Something about needing to evening water or something, probably just annoyed that there were people on the course when he wanted to shut down. Yelling to pick up our balls, threatening some sort of punishment, etc... I had driven into the rough and hacked back into the fairway like 170 out. Being a standard 15 year old in the face of a douche vague authority figure, I just step up and hit the shot anyways...1 hop and the loudest pin smack I'd ever heard as it popped in for my first ever Eagle. The assistant didn't buy me a drink, he actually drove up to the green and grabbed my ball. I wonder what dog track he's wasting away at these days...
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Well done Tower. Mine was about 2 weeks ago playing in the mid-40s and windy. One of my buddies suggested moving up a tee to about 5500 yards. Started out 7 over after 5 holes. Finished 18 at 6 over. Shot even par on the back. (Stoopid par putt on 18 curled away at the last 2” or would have been under par.) We all had a blast from the forward tees and it will be interesting to see if we go back to the whites next season.
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Well done Tower. Mine was about 2 weeks ago playing in the mid-40s and windy. One of my buddies suggested moving up a tee to about 5500 yards. Started out 7 over after 5 holes. Finished 18 at 6 over. Shot even par on the back. (Stoopid par putt on 18 curled away at the last 2” or would have been under par.) We all had a blast from the forward tees and it will be interesting to see if we go back to the whites next season.
As golf czar, I’d make everyone play up a set of tees to where their games belong
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That would speed things up.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/harold-varner-iii-arrested-for-dwi-according-to-report?utm_medium=email&utm_source=122923&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM47430&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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https://nypost.com/2023/12/28/sports/liv-pga-tour-expected-to-extend-merger-talks-with-masters-deadline-in-mind/amp/
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https://www.si.com/golf/news/negotiation-deadline-extended-pga-tour-liv-golf
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My highlight was being in the team room with the European Team at the Ryder Cup
Which player, which stall?
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Which player, which stall?
Why do you want to know?
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Why do you want to know?
No big deal. If you want to keep it on the down low that’s cool.
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No big deal. If you want to keep it on the down low that’s cool.
Ask Herm. He’d know
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Ask Herm. He’d know
I’d never ask anyone for info you shared with them in confidence.
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I’d never ask anyone for info you shared with them in confidence.
No, he was there
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More detail from PGA Tour on Big Deal
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-pif-extend-negotiation-deadline-2024/?amp=1
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/scottie-scheffler-beard-the-sentry-kapalua-pga-tour-golf/amp
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Rory softens tone on LIV , willing to play if modeled after Indian Cricket League
https://www.foxsports.com.au/golf/mcilroy-performs-shock-uturn-and-concedes-he-would-play-liv-golf-but-on-one-condition/news-story/9c37a288aa8db4df445a5482cb99639a
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Scottie Schefler has a couple solid rounds to open PGA Tour season at Kapalua.
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Patrick Reed has to pay Brandel Chamblee and other news outlets lawyers fees after a judge threw out his case.
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Rory softens tone on LIV , willing to play if modeled after Indian Cricket League
https://www.foxsports.com.au/golf/mcilroy-performs-shock-uturn-and-concedes-he-would-play-liv-golf-but-on-one-condition/news-story/9c37a288aa8db4df445a5482cb99639a
So the leader of the anti LIV crew admits he was too judgmental. Wonder if the leaders of Scoop’s anti LIV crew will do likewise?
Lol
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So the leader of the anti LIV crew admits he was too judgmental. Wonder if the leaders of Scoop’s anti LIV crew will do likewise?
Lol
No, LIV is trash sports washing
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No, LIV is trash sports washing
Yep. I don't have millions of reasons to backtrack.
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There will always be a Hallmark movie that holds my interest more than watching LIV golf.
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There will always be a Hallmark movie that holds my interest more than watching LIV golf.
Thats sort of what it really boils down to. Beyond the sportswashing, beyond the politics, beyond the noise...its just not an attractive product right now. Both broadcast rights and the current presentation are very lacking.
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Patrick Reed has to pay Brandel Chamblee and other news outlets lawyers fees after a judge threw out his case.
Good. Reed’s an idiot and cheat. His wife is an idiot, too.
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https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/01/02/liv-golf-cameron-smith-wedding-shanel-naoum-australia/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=MobileBelowArticleFeed-SMG
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Fun Match Play Bryson and Sergio using only one club a 7 iron. Guess who won?
https://youtu.be/kZUZI04lC6o?si=EqIMM5fRdP4z7gQM
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Just booked a trip down to Big Cedar, MO for a golf trip. Hitting up Payne's Valley, Ozark National, and Buffalo Ridge. Any food recommendations while we're down there?
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Arby's
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Just booked a trip down to Big Cedar, MO for a golf trip. Hitting up Payne's Valley, Ozark National, and Buffalo Ridge. Any food recommendations while we're down there?
This truck stop in Mt Vernon which is on the way has great comfort food. All made fresh on site .
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02zzjhV1B84MZq8VVFk3TNrZs7kibdfXSgJ7b9muLoCt2oAdt98rheAQ3GHwRFhMwql&id=100090567086091
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chris kirk wins big both on & off the course-nice story all around
oh, and committing to a 5 iron from a 7, that took a lot of faith too and it won him the sentry
gotta make that decision and trust it as He did
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DP World Tour CEO moving on to new job.
https://golf.com/news/as-saudis-pga-tour-deal-euro-tour-ceo-quits/?amp=1
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Incredible return to Golf from Gary Woodland after Brain surgery
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/emotional-gary-woodland-returns-has-never-been-so-happy-to-shoot-over-par-2024/amp
Sony Open a test to see how he can endure playing on tour again
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39275462/us-open-champ-woodland-journey-back-brain-surgery
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Crazy Carl Yuan making most of his opportunity in lead at Sony Open
https://www.nbcsports.com/golf/news/carl-yuan-taking-advantage-of-gift-given-when-jon-rahm-joined-liv-golf
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Golfing Bad Boy has a chance to win Sony Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-grayson-murray-sony-open-hawaii-keegan-bradley/amp
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Golfing Bad Boy has a chance to win Sony Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-grayson-murray-sony-open-hawaii-keegan-bradley/amp
Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
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Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
Herm thinks men should be able to date teenagers
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Rooting for Crazy Carl Yuan
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Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
Not even that. He’s not some renegade bad boy, he’s just historically a douche with an attitude.
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Jon Rahm’s new boss in the news
https://x.com/adamcrafton_/status/1747282929267466694?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Hope Yasir gets into Augusta like he wants
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Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
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if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild
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Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
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no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
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Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
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no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
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Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
you musta passed out early last night
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Legendary Tour Pro Jack Burke Jr dies at 100. Excellent obituary
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/19/two-time-major-winner-jack-burke-jr-dies-at-100
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Legendary Tour Pro Jack Burke Jr dies at 100. Excellent obituary
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/19/two-time-major-winner-jack-burke-jr-dies-at-100
Jackie Burke wouldn’t take Saudi money, aina?
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Jackie Burke wouldn’t take Saudi money, aina?
Jackie Burke was a friend of mine at MU. Solid outside shot, got decent minutes off the bench for our Warriors. Helped make life miserable for Pistol Pete in our rout of LSU in the 1970 NIT semifinals. Really good guy, and to my knowledge at least, never took any Saudi dough.
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Big day 4 Hailey Davidson aina
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if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Glasshouse-philip-johnson.jpg)
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Amateur in contention at The American Express
https://golf.com/news/nick-dunlap-record-setting-round-pga-tour-history-amateur/?amp=1
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Amateur in contention at The American Express
https://golf.com/news/nick-dunlap-record-setting-round-pga-tour-history-amateur/?amp=1
More on Nick Dunlap and list of amateurs to win on Tour
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/american-express-nick-dunlap-justin-thomas-amateur-win-on-pga-tour?utm_medium=email&utm_source=012124&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM48301&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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More on Nick Dunlap and list of amateurs to win on Tour
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/american-express-nick-dunlap-justin-thomas-amateur-win-on-pga-tour?utm_medium=email&utm_source=012124&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM48301&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39358581/amateur-nick-dunlap-wins-pga-tour-american-express
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The amateur won. But because college athletics rules continue to be a stoopid relic of eons gone by, he didn't get the $1.5 million winner's share for doing so.
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The amateur won. But because college athletics rules continue to be a stoopid relic of eons gone by, he didn't get the $1.5 million winner's share for doing so.
I think that the USGA has a big say in this as well. Since Dunlap has to be an amateur to play in the US Amateur.
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I think that the USGA has a big say in this as well. Since Dunlap has to be an amateur to play in the US Amateur.
Correct but he also has the opportunity to earn money from endorsements that he didn’t once have. The USGA relaxed that rule awhile back.
It’s his choice when to decide to become a full professional. The USGA has allowed an avenue for players to earn money from equipment companies but the NCAA has not. The USGA did this largely to allow those that graduate or plan on turning pro to earn money before the US Men’s Am is played
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Anthony Kim considering a comeback
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39388114/anthony-kim-talks-pga-liv-return
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Went to the PGA merch show last week. Always am amazed to walk that show and see all the weird stuff / new products.
First time i have seen the Callaway Paradym Smoke in person
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tyrrell hatton joins LIV golf for $64mil
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tyrrell hatton joins LIV golf for $64mil
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4a/f0/6c/4af06cb1aaee152664f90f6141cf7751.jpg)
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The PGA Tour is getting a $3 billion investment from Strategic Sports Group in a deal that would give players access to more than $1.5 billion as equity owners in the new PGA Tour Enterprises.
The launching of PGA Tour Enterprises, with SSG as a minority partner, comes eight months after the PGA Tour signed a framework agreement with the Saudi backers of LIV Golf for a commercial venture, and ultimately led to private equity groups wanting to join.
The Associated Press obtained a copy of the announcement expected to be released Wednesday morning. PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan was holding a conference call with players about the deal that was finalized Tuesday night.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-pga-tour-fenway-group-20240131-cqzxss7gnzcldm6ksqmuh67lta-story.html
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https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/31/pga-tour-launches-pga-tour-enterprises-new-program-that-transforms-players-into-equity-holders
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Entirely possible they held off on the announcement until after Hatton left.
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LIV golf tournament threatened by food poisoning.
Only having 54 holes is a mistake.
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https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/sports/pga-tours-3-billion-windfall-does-nothing-for-golf-fans/amp/
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LIV golf tournament threatened by food poisoning.
Only having 54 holes is a mistake.
which food group is threatening the poisoning
so another 18 holes would prevent the food from poisoning the masses?
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The number of holes is a play on the number of necessary bathrooms for that many people with food poisoning.
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Joaquin Niemann posts 59 at Mayokaba
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
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The sogginess of Pebble, along with the temperature and marine air mass has the pros hitting clubs more relatable distances. Like, 8 irons from 147.
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Joaquin Niemann posts 59 at Mayokaba
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
59 watch at Pebble.
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59 watch at Pebble.
A 60 at PB doesn't suck.
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Left birdie putts on 16 and 17 one roll short, right in the heart.
Lift, clean, and place, though.
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Joaquin Niemann wins LIV beats Sergio in 4th round of Playoff.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39460966/joaquin-niemann-outlasts-sergio-garcia-wins-liv-golf-stop
Rahm Team Wins Team Event
Movistar + entered into agreement to Stream LIV Golf in Spain. Looks like that worked out for them today.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-partners-with-movistar-plus-to-broadcast-tournaments-in-spain
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cancelled round 4 pebble beach declare wyndham clark winner thru 54 holes
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cancelled round 4 pebble beach declare wyndham clark winner thru 54 holes
LIV is truly taking over.
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Sergio Garcia is a garbage human being
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Sports washing and growing the game is dangerous business
https://x.com/jordanfabian/status/1755248670939705712?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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It’s warmer in Milwaukee right now (54 degrees) than in Phoenix (49 degrees) for the WM Open!
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I had an easier time golfing today than the pros did. My daddy would look at the pros playing golf in weather like that and say...
(Grunt) builds character. (Second grunt)
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/08/sports/cristobal-del-solar-shoots-57-to-set-new-pga-sanctioned-event-record/
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A great accomplishment. But only up 4. The.course.is 6200 , at elevation, has.had rain so the greens are soft and they are playing preferred lies.
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A great accomplishment. But only up 4. The.course.is 6200 , at elevation, has.had rain so the greens are soft and they are playing preferred lies.
He was driving par-4’s.
Roll the ball and equipment back. Shrink the game
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we had clubhouse tickets for thursday-glad i bought the insurance-stayed home to watch in between rain/sleet. muddy parking lots were miles away. not worth attempting to trudge around with a wife and her new hip
we've gone every year for the past 6 and this is beyond the worst weather we've ever had down here in 2nd week february
oh, tell auntie reeeeko phoenix has plenty of H2O
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we had clubhouse tickets for thursday-glad i bought the insurance-stayed home to watch in between rain/sleet. muddy parking lots were miles away. not worth attempting to trudge around with a wife and her new hip
we've gone every year for the past 6 and this is beyond the worst weather we've ever had down here in 2nd week february
oh, tell auntie reeeeko phoenix has plenty of H2O
You won’t in a few years.
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You won’t in a few years.
few years? ok algore
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Alcohol sales cut off. Has it jumped the shark?
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Alcohol sales cut off. Has it jumped the shark?
Imagine being in Arizona and having to be sober 😖
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Dustin Johnson with a solid LIV win.
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Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
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they need to gain control of this thing as it has become...oh, and there's a golf event going on. they've created a monster. general admission tix are too cheap~$35. they need to regain the dignity of golf events which set themselves apart from others...until now.
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they need to gain control of this thing as it has become...oh, and there's a golf event going on. they've created a monster. general admission tix are too cheap~$35. they need to regain the dignity of golf events which set themselves apart from others...until now.
Dignity at golf events? Huh
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Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
Mission accomplished. Congrats to WMO. They have been courting this for years.
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Mission accomplished. Congrats to WMO. They have been courting this for years.
We need to shrink the game
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Yeah it feels like you can make things accessible to the public without turning them into drunken free-for-alls.
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Impressive that many got that drunk at those prices.
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Yeah it feels like you can make things accessible to the public without turning them into drunken free-for-alls.
There’s a despotic regime funding a new entity that is returning dignity to golf, thankfully
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Dignity at golf events? Huh
don't know how many golf events you've been to, but excessive, prolonged rowdy behavior isn't tolerated at most pga events as it is almost encouraged at phoenix open. i love the wastemanagement open. i've been to the previous 6 or so, missed this one due to weather(way too much water for even reeko) and may even rethink going to future events.
we typically get the clubhouse passes and just watching the activities from above the 18th green is getting cringe-worthy. i cab imagine what's happening on hole 16. think summerfest and frat parties x 10.
if the golf isn't enough to get ya sauced up, they have medium headliner concerts afterwards at the coors light "birds nest" including a duran-duran revival on friday night
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if the golf isn't enough to get ya sauced up, they have medium headliner concerts afterwards at the coors light "birds nest" including a duran-duran revival on friday night
You expect people to attend that sober?
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Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1756487176886358439?t=I5WTcfuOXvhbE3q-yms_mQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1756487176886358439?t=I5WTcfuOXvhbE3q-yms_mQ&s=19
This is why Shooter wanted Happy off the Tour.
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A reset is definitely coming next year. Players look fed up.
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A reset is definitely coming next year. Players look fed up.
White people ruin everything
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Hoffman wearing a back brace on his way to the playoff hole.
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Congratulations to Nick Taylor.
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Enjoying the videos of fan interaction with Captain Zach and Billy Ho.
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Tiger back on the prowl on PGA Tour
Will be great to see him in contention on Sunday
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It will be amazing to watch all the other players get so intimidated that they quit before the weekend. Congrats to Tiger on the victory!
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My feelings on Tiger are well known here, but I happen to LOVE the logo for his new apparel brand, post-Nike. I guess a lot of Golf social media doesn't care for it, which seems to track considering how opposite our feelings on Tiger are.
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I am intrigued. While never a Tiger fan, I do appreciate clothes that aren't generic. So, for me, it will come down to the style, fabrics, etc.
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My feelings on Tiger are well known here, but I happen to LOVE the logo for his new apparel brand, post-Nike. I guess a lot of Golf social media doesn't care for it, which seems to track considering how opposite our feelings on Tiger are.
I thought separating Sun and Day was silly, but that's just personal preference and advertising gurus who were paid a ton of money disagree with me. The logo looks A-OK.
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I thought separating Sun and Day was silly, but that's just personal preference and advertising gurus who were paid a ton of money disagree with me. The logo looks A-OK.
I minored in marketing and think the separation of Sun and Day is a dumb idea, not a fan.
I do like the logo though
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Tiger back on the prowl on PGA Tour
Will be great to see him in contention on Sunday
Shanks his tee shot on 18, promptly blames back spams.
Apparently his glutes were activated but his lumbar spine wasn’t.
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Shanks his tee shot on 18, promptly blames back spams.
Apparently his glutes were activated but his lumbar spine wasn’t.
A tough hole. Shanking doesn't help the cause. Although Pro's do have a rare shank so it is not just a Tiger thing.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/39533471
Hopefully The Big Cat can do what it takes tomorrow to make the cut for the weekend.
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Had to quit … and right when he was on the cusp of contending!
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Had to quit … and right when he was on the cusp of contending!
Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
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Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
I guess We will have to wait for the next tournament for a Tiger win
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Allergic reaction to his new clothing line.
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Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
More predictable? 4elder jinx or Herm jinx?
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spieth dq'd from genesis for signing an incorrect score card marking down a par 3 on hole number 4 instead of a four...
shouldn't a player always review his card with his caddy before submitting?
https://www.nbcsports.com/golf/news/jordan-spieth-disqualified-after-signing-incorrect-scorecard-at-genesis-invitational
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https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/cw-dennis-miller-brad-schwartz-liv-golf-1235912317/amp/
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/liv-golf-loophole-majors-puig-32154222.amp
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https://apnews.com/article/liv-golf-masters-schauffele-mcilroy-pga-majors-1831410463338bf659f18c914bbf30c6
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Joaquin Niemann , and two others, receive special Masters invitations.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39568251/liv-golf-joaquin-niemann-3-get-masters-invitations
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/22/sports/rory-mcilroys-former-agent-floats-stunning-950m-liv-golf-defection/amp/
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/22/sports/rory-mcilroys-former-agent-floats-stunning-950m-liv-golf-defection/amp/
this is precious...lory going over to the "enemy"...would love to review his past comments vs. LIV and the guys that had already defected
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/anthony-kim-return-liv-golf-jeddah-pga-tour/amp
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Top 3 players in Asian Tour Event from LIV
https://www.livgolf.com/news/carlos-ortiz-wins-international-series-oman-after-birdie-run
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Great week for Wisconsin golf, the golf capital of America. Because of climate change, courses were open through Thanksgiving last year and many courses were open in February this year. With the south destined to be an inhospitable wasteland in a decade or two, Wisconsin will truly be the Golf standard for this country.
Just to prove it, America’s #1 golf destination has 10 of the top 100 public courses in the country.
https://www.wisconsin.golf/courses/were-not-surprised-wisconsin-ranked-no-1-with-10-golf-courses-on-golf-digests-list/article_360c82ee-d0d1-11ee-b108-53df61321288.html
Now, a list that has the Bull on it, should have its validity questioned, still a nice shoutout. But with Sedge Valley opening we can replace the Bull with that anyway
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Now, a list that has the Bull on it, should have its validity questioned, still a nice shoutout. But with Sedge Valley opening we can replace the Bull with that anyway
Nicklaus design and Golf Digest have mutual benefactors.
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LIV signs deal with Caffeine TV
https://golf.com/news/liv-golf-surprising-new-tv-partner-hot-mic/?amp=1
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From Yahoo Sports:
Jon Rahm says Tiger Woods won't answer his texts about his LIV Golf move, which he finally admitted was about the money.
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Just saw the promo clip for Anthony Kim joining LIV, saying this as someone who was a big AK fan in the late 2000s...Holy HELL he looks awful. I don't mean to speculate, but it looks like he spent the last 12 years skiing, and by that I mean the only kind you can do in Dallas. His nose does not look normal
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Just saw the promo clip for Anthony Kim joining LIV, saying this as someone who was a big AK fan in the late 2000s...Holy HELL he looks awful. I don't mean to speculate, but it looks like he spent the last 12 years skiing, and by that I mean the only kind you can do in Dallas. His nose does not look normal
Never knew he took the insurance payout because he had the driver yips.
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https://www.si.com/golf/2024/02/28/rory-mcilroy-responds-former-agent-liv-golf
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detry's 6 putts-
this was painful to watch-ya gotta think, somewhere in there he lost his mind
https://twitter.com/i/status/1763693362907853026
probably muttering something to the effect that he'd rather find his wife in bed with another dude than 6 putt another hole
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https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-kim-posts-best-round-yet-in-return-to-pro-golf-still-finishes-dead-last-123806901.html
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76-76-74. Like everything else with LIV, a clown show.
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Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
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Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
He took the easy way out and got an insurance policy for an injury that sidelined him for a decade instead of working through driver yips.
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Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
He was fun and popular 12-16 years ago. I followed his group at 2008 Ryder Cup.
Kim has had a lot of injuries and quite a few surgeries . It is an interesting comeback to Professional Golf human interest type story.
PGA Tour also wanted to bring Kim back, but didn’t have a method to pay off Kims reported $ 10 million disability contract
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He was fun and popular 12-16 years ago. I followed his group at 2008 Ryder Cup.
Kim has had a lot of injuries and quite a few surgeries . It is an interesting comeback to Professional Golf human interest type story.
PGA Tour also wanted to bring Kim back, but didn’t have a method to pay off Kims reported $ 10 million disability contract
I caddied for him at that Ryder Cup
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He took the easy way out and got an insurance policy for an injury that sidelined him for a decade instead of working through driver yips.
Yeah, that just makes me less interested in him. But if 9-9-9 and others choose to go ga-ga over this human interest story, that’s cool.
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Zero interest in the AK story. Found it amusing that he was AWOL for a decade and wish he had stayed that way. He had an exciting year of golf and his attitude made him star, but I did not feel cheated as a golf fan that he vanished from the tour.
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My three rounds for the year are 76-76-74.
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Zero interest in the AK story. Found it amusing that he was AWOL for a decade and wish he had stayed that way. He had an exciting year of golf and his attitude made him star, but I did not feel cheated as a golf fan that he vanished from the tour.
I mean, he quit because he had the driver yips. Would have been a far more interesting story had he fought his way through that and made a comeback, ala Henrik Stenson.
He made his comeback in Saudi Arabia as part of a sportswashing league. Be just fine if he stayed there and looked for women in restaurants
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Kim saying he is" playing like A... but encouraged" . Love the perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/sport/anthony-kim-liv-golf-return-last-spt-intl/index.html
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Kim saying he is" playing like A... but encouraged" . Love the perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/sport/anthony-kim-liv-golf-return-last-spt-intl/index.html
He’s garbage
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Congratulations to the Butler student who jarred a 94 foot putt during one of the media timeouts at last night's game.
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Padraig Harrington says he can get recreational golfers to a single digit handicap
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/03/07/padraig-harrington-instructional-videos-single-digit-handicap/
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His stuff is pretty good, but you still have to do the work.
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Padraig Harrington says he can get recreational golfers to a single digit handicap
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/03/07/padraig-harrington-instructional-videos-single-digit-handicap/
Sergio Garcia says he can get recreational golfers to disrespect the game, sponsors, fans and the course they play like him
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Anthony Kim shot a 72 today. Making a little progress.
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Anthony Kim shot a 72 today. Making a little progress.
He’s garbage
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Anthony Kim continues his comeback shoots a 65 today.
https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/anthony-kim-cards-brilliant-final-round-at-liv-golf-hong-kong-before-his-caddie-reportedly-makes-surprising-admission
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Anthony Kim continues his comeback shoots a 65 today.
https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/anthony-kim-cards-brilliant-final-round-at-liv-golf-hong-kong-before-his-caddie-reportedly-makes-surprising-admission
He’s garbage
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More on Anthony Kim
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/signs-of-life-anthony-kim-surprises-shocking-low-round-liv-golf-hong-kong-2024
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More on Anthony Kim
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/signs-of-life-anthony-kim-surprises-shocking-low-round-liv-golf-hong-kong-2024
He’s garbage
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One time European young star Matteo Manassero finally back in winners circle.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39701033/matteo-manassero-claims-first-european-tour-win-11-years
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One time European young star Matteo Manassero finally back in winners circle.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39701033/matteo-manassero-claims-first-european-tour-win-11-years
He should have taken an insurance policy out instead of fighting his way through difficult times
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https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/liv-golf-has-ended-the-players-championship-fifth-major-tag
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If 9-9-9 could get Tiger, Mr Cooley and Sam to play in an excellent LIV event, he'd be the happiest dead man alive!
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God bless global warming
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https://www.si.com/golf/2024/03/12/pga-tour-jay-monahan-says-negotiations-liv-golf-saudi-pif-accelerating
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Adam Hadwin with an epic club toss into the pond at 18.
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Anthony Kim missed cut at Asian Tour Event although he did shoot 70 in second round
David Puig of LIV golf is leading adter 2 rounds . Earlier this year Puig made the British Open as a qualifier by winning an Asian Tour event. If Puig wins this event he may get his OWGR in range of making PGA Championship, US Open amd possibly Masters
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Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
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Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
TPC Sawgrass perfect course for a shot maker like Scheffler .
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The way he is playing now that he is putting decently, every course is good for him.
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The way he is playing now that he is putting decently, every course is good for him.
Pretty riveting finish from what I’ve read. Shame they all started on 1, didn’t wear shorts, didn’t have music and 760 fans in attendance.
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Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
I wanted some "action" on the Sunday. Was looking at Harman and Scheffler due to odds. Thought Scottie was too far back to make a run, so i took Harman.
Whoops.
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Malnati shows nice guys can win. Congratulations on a great effort.
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/daily-wrapup/2024/03/24/peter-malnati-wins-valspar-championship-two-stroke-victory-over-cameron-young-copperhead-course-the-masters-augusta-national
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Hit my first perfect shot of the year. 120 directly into a 2 club wind. Knockdown 9. Finished up 8 feet past the hole. Looking for the pitch mark to repair, found it 1 inch short of the cup, slightly impinging on the lip. Thank goodness I made the putt.
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Hit my first perfect shot of the year. 120 directly into a 2 club wind. Knockdown 9. Finished up 8 feet past the hole. Looking for the pitch mark to repair, found it 1 inch short of the cup, slightly impinging on the lip. Thank goodness I made the putt.
You could probably beat half the LIV golfers
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Nope. Not long enough. Driver 250, 3 wood 220 just isn't going to get it on 520 yard par 4s.
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Nope. Not long enough. Driver 250, 3 wood 220 just isn't going to get it on 520 yard par 4s.
At LIV it would
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Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
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You'd neva find me in Cudahy, hey?
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You'd neva find me in Cudahy, hey?
You’d have a leg up on the competition.
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Dogleg?
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My boys from home (Connecticut) do a yearly golf trip. Been to Scottsdale, Vegas, Crystal Springs to name a few.
Talk this year is Sand Valley.
Curious of people’s experiences/opinions on the courses and nightlife (full disclosure: most of my crew are mid to late 50s and lack any type of self awareness of their age and appeal to the opposite sex).
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Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
Not since Club Bagdad closed.
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My boys from home (Connecticut) do a yearly golf trip. Been to Scottsdale, Vegas, Crystal Springs to name a few.
Talk this year is Sand Valley.
Curious of people’s experiences/opinions on the courses and nightlife (full disclosure: most of my crew are mid to late 50s and lack any type of self awareness of their age and appeal to the opposite sex).
If you’re talking a 2024 trip, you’re about 13 months too late if you want to stay on-site.
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If you’re talking a 2024 trip, you’re about 13 months too late if you want to stay on-site.
Air BNB
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Closest I've bin to Cudahy is On the Border, hey?
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Air BNB
I’ve been to a couple supper clubs offsite, if you’re in need of ‘nightlife’, probably not the place for the group
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I’ve been to a couple supper clubs offsite, if you’re in need of ‘nightlife’, probably not the place for the group
Thanks for the heads up.
One member did make note of a rather humorously named “gentlemen’s club” in the area.
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Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
Like 4Elder, I only hang around the right kind of people. If my turn to evangelicalism has taught me one thing, it’s money, power and the right background > Cudahy.
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Nobody is golfing in Wisconsin today.
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JT and Bones split.
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Any Scoopers going to The Masters?
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Any Scoopers going to The Masters?
Yes, I go every year. Staying on property this year.
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Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
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Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
No problem, so long as they keep out the chicks.
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Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
We don’t. Many of our members are fellow evangelicals and we do everything in our power to keep the homeless as far away as possible.
Maybe some year I’ll get you a dinner invite.
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No problem, so long as they keep out the chicks.
Ugh. They made us go woke. Not sure how long we can financially survive
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Ugh. They made us go woke. Not sure how long we can financially survive
One of them is Condoleezza Rice at least.
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I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn’t know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi’s in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi’s we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
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Been once - 2008. It was largely a forgettable tournament, as Trevor Immelman won, and none of the big names really ever made a run.
But Augusta National was spectacular.
I walked the entire course for four straight days, and each hole offered something interesting and beautiful. It helped that, aside from one soaker that didn't last all that long, the weather was great all weekend.
I was surprised at how hilly the course was - it was a workout walking it. I also was surprised at how inexpensive the food and soda was.
All in all, Augusta National is one of the few places in America I've ever been to that exceeded the extremely high expectations I had going in. In that respect, it would be on my personal list with the Grand Canyon, Kauai and some stretches of the Pacific Coast Highway.
Every golf fan should try to get there once in his or her life.
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I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn’t know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi’s in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi’s we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
It’s why I take a helicopter onto the property. Any self-respecting person wouldn’t be caught dead in Augusta proper. In fact, 50/50 you’ll get murdered in the city
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https://golf.com/news/anthony-kim-spoke-about-past-reveal-everything/
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The camera work by NBC at ANWA has been incredible this morning. Seeing angles and shots you never see.
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Yeah, this is becoming one of the best events in golf.
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I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn’t know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi’s in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi’s we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
Heading up to The Masters this year. Looking forward to some healthy walking up those Hills
Have access to Berckmans Place which will be nice way to enjoy the event.
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Compelling golf at ANWA this afternoon! What a show!
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Heading up to The Masters this year. Looking forward to some healthy walking up those Hills
Have access to Berckmans Place which will be nice way to enjoy the event.
Nice! I’ll be in Butler’s Cabin this year. It’s Sean McManus last event and he invited a few close associates.
Done Berckman’s the last few years.
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Nice! I’ll be in Butler’s Cabin this year. It’s Sean McManus last event and he invited a few close associates.
Done Berckman’s the last few years.
Chef's kiss
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Sergio in lead heading into final round at LIV Event at Doral. Excellent way to get ready for Masters.
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
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I forgot that he could still play there. Crap.
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Sergio in lead heading into final round at LIV Event at Doral. Excellent way to get ready for Masters.
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
No, it isn’t.
The contrast between LIV and ANWA is staggering. A soulless golf event favored by nitwits versus an event that showcases a great golf course and has quickly become a golfing delight.
But you like Sergio, one of the most disgraceful golfers of his generation and a despicable person. Says quite a bit, no?
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I forgot that he could still play there. Crap.
Sergio always melts like the coward he is when Tiger is around, so he’ll be a non-factor, just like in the golf world
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Sergio always melts like the coward he is when Tiger is around, so he’ll be a non-factor, just like in the golf world
Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
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Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
Scene: Morgantown National GC
{Masters theme 🎼 and Country Roads 🎶 alternate in background}
Raftery/Lundquist: “Congrats Buzz/Sergio on a short handed win/putt”
Broeker/Rico while approaching the interview: “Buzz/Sergio why are they mad?”
Sergio/Buzz: “My saliva danced. It danced a jig on their hole/court. They got mad.”
Broeker/Rico: 🤢 🤮
In a couple years, Buzz was flushed 💩 and Chairman Rico would delete both Gary McCord and Sergio from his GolfContacts list.
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Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
Smashing tee boxes, smashing bunkers, smashing bunker surrounds, spitting into cups
https://youtu.be/pk4kUaJgyAw?si=AiVRkj3Ji9nAjQO2
He’s a graceless loser, classless on the course with zero respect for the game. No one exemplifies the mockery of the game LIV is quite like Sergio. He’s the perfect LIV poster boy.
Golf will be better when he isn’t any longer a part of it
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Sergio is a heel. A petulant child.
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That video was cringeworthy for sure. As bad as his behavior is, his reaction to it when being interviewed and called out for it is even worse.
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That video was cringeworthy for sure. As bad as his behavior is, his reaction to it when being interviewed and called out for it is even worse.
His peers don’t defend him. They don’t like him. He was one of the first to run to the guaranteed money from the Saudi government. He’s a piece of trash.
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Smashing tee boxes, smashing bunkers, smashing bunker surrounds, spitting into cups
https://youtu.be/pk4kUaJgyAw?si=AiVRkj3Ji9nAjQO2
He’s a graceless loser, classless on the course with zero respect for the game. No one exemplifies the mockery of the game LIV is quite like Sergio. He’s the perfect LIV poster boy.
Wow - try not to sugar coat it next time. Guess I’ll be cancelling my membership in the Sergio Fan Club.
Golf will be better when he isn’t any longer a part of it
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Bhatia was up 6 at the turn, shot -2 on the back nine, and had to bury a 12 footer just to force a playoff.
Incredible finish at the Valero.
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Great week on the LPGA as they have The Chevron Championship, the first major of the year. Nelly going for 5 straight wins.
Would be better if the course wasn’t a dump. Almost Valhalla bad
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Lexi still hitting it sideways.
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Nelly with a 68 to start. Good round
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Nelly with a 68 to start. Good round
Good gracious score is bodacious
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Nelly shoots -3, tied for the lead at the moment. In great shape heading into the weekend regardless.
Lottie Woad, the ANWA champ from 2 weeks ago continues her magical spring and sits -4.
Notables missing the cut include Celine Boutier, Meghan Khang, Leona Maguire, Rose Zhang and Minjee Lee.
Defending champ Lilia Vu withdrew as did Angel Yin, the runner-up from last year. Lexi and Danielle Kang don’t sniff the cut line
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Hoping for the exciting Sunday finish we didn't get in Augusta.
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Haeran Ryu leads by 1 over Nelly and Brooke Henderson who went -8 in the 3rd round. Nelly won’t be in the final group
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Hataoka is only 5 back.
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Hataoka is only 5 back.
Ko is only 6 back
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Ko is only 6 back
I will be rooting for Nasa. Disappointed that Ayaka is +1.
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I will be rooting for Nasa. Disappointed that Ayaka is +1.
I’m rooting for Nelly
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I’m rooting for Nelly
She's been dominant for sure.
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Nelly leaking oil, but nobody is pushing her.
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Nelly leaking oil, but nobody is pushing her.
Long time waiting on 18.
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That slammed the door.
W
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Her 5 step plan is pretty good.
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Whoa Nelly! She’s good!
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15-year-old Miles Russell becomes the youngest to finish in the top 20 of a professional event, doing so in the Korn Ferry Tour’s LECOM Suncoast Classic. He was making his first pro start on a sponsor's exemption.
https://theathletic.com/5433203/2024/04/21/miles-russell-15-korn-ferry-tour-golf/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=9606473&userId=3738391
He broke one of Tiger Woods’ records last year, becoming the youngest player to be named the AJGA Player of the Year. Russell, who is from Jacksonville Beach, Fla., is a high school freshman who has also won the Junior PGA and Junior Players Championship events. He shot a 66 at TPC Sawgrass in the latter. Russell said that he began playing golf at age 2 and broke par by age 6.
Damn. I didn't break par til I was 7!
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https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/greg-norman-open-to-making-a-massive-liv-golf-shakeup/amp/
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Rory's got a future if golf doesn't work out.
https://twitter.com/BrodyAMiller/status/1784730916977266727?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=9694775&userId=3738391
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-adelaide-proves-fan-first-philosophy-can-work-no-matter-who-ends-up-winning?utm_medium=email&utm_source=042824&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM50756&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Try not to hit caddies in the head with full water bottles.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-adelaide-proves-fan-first-philosophy-can-work-no-matter-who-ends-up-winning?utm_medium=email&utm_source=042824&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM50756&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
No, it only proves that Aussies are dopes. The only LIV events that have generated any buzz have been in Australia.
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LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
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LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
https://x.com/skulledwedge/status/1785426730758341008?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I see on the website it has a water fountain, so that means it’s clearly a terrible golf course
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LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
Last week, I had a friend tell me that LIV was headed to Bolingbrook GC in September. I told him funny joke, however he said the news was true. I was absolutely floored. I'm not sure Bolingbrook is a even a top 15 public course in the Chicagoland area.
The course was not designed nor intended to host a professional golf tournament. I have played it a handful of times. It will be a non-stop 59 watch. There's a solid chance the winning score is 30 under even with just 54 holes.
My friend and I were discussing all the Chicago public and private courses that LIV must have been turned down from to end up at Bolingbrook. The list had to be long. Interesting that LIV only lasted two years at Rich Harvest Farms before Jerry Rich told them to hit the road.
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It’s not a good course. LIV should be at Bull Valley, but maybe Gary finally played hard to get.