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#23 according to Ken Pom
« on: December 31, 2022, 07:25:06 PM »
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2022, 07:28:08 PM »
Cool.  Nice re-emergence to the rankings.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2022, 07:31:12 PM »
Road wins in the Big East are huge

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2022, 07:36:05 PM »
MU was #23 in kenpom yesterday before the win.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2022, 07:48:36 PM »
MU was #23 in kenpom yesterday before the win.

What are the odds?

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2022, 07:58:42 PM »
MU was #23 in kenpom yesterday before the win.
Proving that Big East road wins are worthless
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2022, 08:00:32 PM »
Proving that Big East road wins are worthless

Looks like Billy Packer was right
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2022, 08:28:47 PM »
Proving that when the Pomeroy algorithm predicts a 1 point loss and you get a 2 point win things won’t change much.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2022, 09:52:57 PM »
Proving that when the Pomeroy algorithm predicts a 1 point loss and you get a 2 point win things won’t change much.
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2023, 08:11:20 PM »
Up to 18 after the win.  6th in offense.  3 Big East Teams with top 10 offenses.

Don’t look at the defensive number, though
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2023, 08:12:21 PM »
Up to 18 after the win.  6th in offense.  3 Big East Teams with top 10 offenses.

Don’t look at the defensive number, though

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2023, 08:13:01 PM »
Tell me, I hate cliffhangers

79 which doesn’t sound terrible but basically is
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2023, 08:16:03 PM »
All Marquettes reach equilibrium.

I’d imagine the offense slides back to reality some and the defense improves into the top 50 as the season progresses.

This isn’t a poor defensive team.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2023, 08:24:40 PM »
All Marquettes reach equilibrium.

I’d imagine the offense slides back to reality some and the defense improves into the top 50 as the season progresses.

This isn’t a poor defensive team.

It’s not a good defensive team
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2023, 08:26:15 PM »
It’s not a good defensive team

Worse than last year? That team defended very poorly when it mattered most

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2023, 08:30:17 PM »
Worse than last year? That team defended very poorly when it mattered most

I think it’s worse because teams are shooting better against this years team.  More turnovers, less blocked shots.  They miss the minutes Kuath gave them defensively but it’s a trade off for a much better offense.
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2023, 08:33:29 PM »
We have seen more tough shots hit against us and more low percentage guys get hot. I think our D has forced a lot of tough shots, but a lot have been made. That cannot go on all season.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2023, 08:35:49 PM »
We have seen more tough shots hit against us and more low percentage guys get hot. I think our D has forced a lot of tough shots, but a lot have been made. That cannot go on all season.

Goose, where would you slot our overall ceiling?  Ty.

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2023, 08:38:41 PM »
Muggsy

I think the ceiling might be pretty high. I want to see the next few games before I start getting ahead of myself. That being said, this could end up being a special team and season. They have a lot different ways to make like difficult for the opponent and that is big.

What do you think?

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2023, 08:39:09 PM »
Winning out gets MU to 27-4.  Likely a two seed.    That is MU's ceiling.
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2023, 08:42:28 PM »
Winning out gets MU to 27-4.  Likely a two seed.    That is MU's ceiling.

If Marquette is 27-4 and a two seed, I’ll March to Indy myself the confront the selection committee.
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2023, 08:43:57 PM »
We have seen more tough shots hit against us and more low percentage guys get hot. I think our D has forced a lot of tough shots, but a lot have been made. That cannot go on all season.

Especially the threes that are released just before the shot clock expires! The most aggravating hot shooting was by UW. Anybody but them would have been merely annoying and written off as "just one of those things".
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2023, 08:57:04 PM »
Before I specifically answer your question Goose here are the positives I've seen to this point:

1) MU has 3/4 consistently good offensive players.  Kam being more patient in particular has helped this team exponentially.   In other words we have spurtability.

2) We're extremely dangerous when we turn our opponents over and have space in the open floor.

3) We are taking care of the rock.  Huge stat that cannot be glossed over.

4) I don't care about the stats of the Freshmen, we have seen they all can contribute if needed.

5) We may have a star emerging in O-Max

6) We have not looked tired at the end of games.

7) I trust Shaka and his game adjustments

Now, the rebounding and overall physicality is a game by game problem.  I think we can fundamentally be better with our box outs and overall help D on dribble penetration. 

I don't see a dominant team Goose but a power ball club is a tough match up for us.  That said I truly believe we should finish top 4 in our league and our ceiling is 2.   Therefore a top 4 NCAA seed is in play imo. 
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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2023, 08:57:32 PM »
Winning out gets MU to 27-4.  Likely a two seed.    That is MU's ceiling.

This made me look.  7 of the last 12 one seeds had 4 or more losses and only 2 two seeds had 4 or fewer.

2022 NCAA Tournament bracket seed list
1. Gonzaga (26-4)
2. Arizona (31-3)
3. Kansas (28-6)
4. Baylor (26-6)
5. Auburn (27-5)
6. Kentucky (26-7)
7. Villanova (26-7)
8. Duke (28-6)
.....

2021 NCAA Tournament bracket seed list
1. Gonzaga (26–0)
2. Baylor (22–2)
3. Illinois (23–6)
4. Michigan (20–4)
5. Alabama (24–6)
6. Ohio State (21–9)
7. Iowa (21–8)
8. Houston (24–3)
....

2019 NCAA Tournament bracket seed list
1. Duke (29 - 5)
2. Virginia (29 - 3)
3. North Carolina (27 - 6)
4. Gonzaga (30 - 3)
5. Tennessee (29 - 4)
6. Michigan St. (28 - 6)
7. Kentucky (27 - 6)
8. Michigan (28 - 6)
....

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Re: #23 according to Ken Pom
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2023, 09:10:09 PM »
John Fanta: "How does a Top 10 KenPom offense come to fruition?"

Shaka: "You'll have to ask KenPom."

Lol. What a line.
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