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This is where people always get lost. It doesn't matter if a majority are insulted or not. It only matters that a significant population of reasonable people are.
Thank goodness you’re here for us lost souls. A 2019 WP poll further reaffirmed the ‘16 results and dug deeper. I won’t derail this thread further. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-survey-explores-how-native-americans-feel-about-the-name-washington-redskins-no-its-not-that-survey-this-one-is-new/2019/08/09/e38553bc-b581-11e9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html%3foutputType=amp
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
And I can be insulted by Redskins and Indians as a non-Native individual as well. Anyway, the name Warriors wasn't the problem. It was Warriors plus the association with Native imagery that was. As has been stated 100 times.
The offensive imagery (Willie Wampum) was eliminated 22 years before the name Warriors was dropped. What followed was a series of inauthentic attempts by MU administrators to adopt "safe" replacements (Bleautaux, I cannot burn your moppy image out of my mind) that only whitewashed things and infuriated alumni even more (at a time when these same geniuses wanted to drop MUBB to DIII). It ended with an administration sell-out in exchange for land, compounded later with the ham-handed Gold fiasco.Just as people adopt the term "Social Justice Warrior" today, MU could have found a way to make it fit the fabric of what the university was founded on and stood for. San Diego State Aztecs, FSU Seminoles, the Oakland Warriors and even the Potawatomis themselves (let's face it, betting is not true to the Native American heritage) have found a way to commercially market their imagery in a socially acceptable way. And just to be clear, many of the same people advocating for "Warriors" today protested the Willie Wampum imagery back in 1971 when it was rightly dropped. More so, these same people were indeed SJWs on social, racial and anti-war issues. The BB coach and team stood up against this center stage: With their uniforms, their brashness, their f/u to the racist NCAA and with cutting down nets with switchblades. Warriors stood for something. The switch, not so much. That said, the Warrior fabric has been broken long ago and diminished by administrators who never understood this history nor cared. It is far better in my mind to have Warriors as the underground nickname while tepidly having the Golden Eagles as the official (even though that imagery has absolutely nothing to do with the university's history or heritage and the birds aren't even seen in SE Wisconsin). It could have been done but the time has passed. A switch back now would be as inauthentic and offensive as a purple fuzzy ball of yarn was in the 1980's. Move along people but I will continue to where my tasteful Marquette Warrior gear that fell of the back off the truck as my statement of protest.
However, I have oft times been lectured here (fairly) that words over time either change their meanings or the effects they have on people. Some that were perfectly fine in my youth are off limits now. Does that also work in reverse?
You say it doesn’t matter if a majority are offended. I agree. But 90% isn’t remotely close to 50/50. It’s a super, super majority and it’s rare that any poll is that overwhelmingly one sided. I disagree with the 90%, but doesn’t their opinion matter?
Cool debate on the warrior name - we should discuss bringing back football too….
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
............ so any TBT news?
I had empathy. But it ran out years ago. It's been over 25 years, long past time to move on. Well if one person of native American descent is okay with it than it must be okay right? And Viper, MU has not embraced the BLM organization. They've embraced the BLM movement. Two very different things