If the amount of veteran players subtly calling out the coaching staff isn't enough to fire Eberflus in season, then nothing will change the organization's philosophy of not firing in season.

The Giants are out-Bearing the Bears. 


I think the injuries to the Detroit defense may have finally reached critical mass.

Onwuzurike, Paschal, Rodriguez just today.   Guys off the street next Thursday.

Quote from: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 12:34:58 PMMVP trophy is Goff's to lose.

No.

Quote from: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 05:06:29 PM"I like what we did there," Eberflus said when asked how he should have handled the closing seconds of the game. "I think we handled it the right way."

31 organizations would fire this guy tonite. One won't.

Think he's protecting Caleb here but doubling down makes it worse regardless of the reason.

Quote from: BM1090 on November 28, 2024, 07:17:17 PMNo.

A QB of the best team in the league with record or near record breaking numbers is automatic.

The only thing that stops him is if they lose 2 or more games which is a possibility with defensive injuries.

Quote from: BM1090 on November 28, 2024, 07:18:11 PMThink he's protecting Caleb here but doubling down makes it worse regardless of the reason.

Yeah, I get protecting your QB, but I think even a person watching their first game realizes that was a mess. Eberflus could have said he didn't give him the right call or something, but I suppose he's trying to save his job.

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 28, 2024, 07:35:55 PMYeah, I get protecting your QB, but I think even a person watching their first game realizes that was a mess. Eberflus could have said he didn't give him the right call or something, but I suppose he's trying to save his job.

Eberflus should bring a case of High Life to the next practice

Eberflus defends Blunderbus decision at end of game

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42668132/bears-clock-management-handled-right-way

Quote from: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 07:23:14 PMA QB of the best team in the league with record or near record breaking numbers is automatic.

The only thing that stops him is if they lose 2 or more games which is a possibility with defensive injuries.

There's a reason he's +700 and 5th in the odds even with everything you said. People have eyes and he's not the MVP.

He's doing everything the Lions want him to do though.

Game manager supreme.  Not a game changer.

Game managers are averaging almost 35 points a game these days?

Quote from: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 08:06:12 PMGame managers are averaging almost 35 points a game these days?

Tower will never give Goff credit. 

Goff has reinvented himself in Detroit.  Credit to him for finding a home and taking advantage of the opportunity.  Great weapons around him and utilizing them

Quote from: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 08:06:12 PMGame managers are averaging almost 35 points a game these days?

When they have time, weapons, and get the ball out on time, sure.  I give Goff all of the credit in the world for running the Lions offense.   He and Johnson are in sync.  When it is flowing, and it has been for a lot of the season, it is magic to watch.

Goff does not make the plays a Mahomes, Allen, Jackson all make.   I appreciate him for what he is.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2024, 08:08:41 PMTower will never give Goff credit. 

Goff has reinvented himself in Detroit.  Credit to him for finding a home and taking advantage of the opportunity.  Great weapons around him and utilizing them

He's been great. Legitimately a pro bowler maybe an all pro. Just not gonna win MVP.

Quote from: BM1090 on November 28, 2024, 08:20:48 PMHe's been great. Legitimately a pro bowler maybe an all pro. Just not gonna win MVP.

Exactly.  All of those things can be true at the same time.

Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 08:22:53 PMExactly.  All of those things can be true at the same time.

You could be right. We'll see.

Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 08:20:08 PMWhen they have time, weapons, and get the ball out on time, sure.  I give Goff all of the credit in the world for running the Lions offense.   He and Johnson are in sync.  When it is flowing, and it has been for a lot of the season, it is magic to watch.

Goff does not make the plays a Mahomes, Allen, Jackson all make.   I appreciate him for what he is.

I think we agree then.

That is what good end-of-half clock management looks like

I just heard a stat about Eberflus.  There have been 221 coaches in NFL history that have played in 20+ games decided by 7pts of fewer. Of those 221, Eberflus is 221.  Williams has talent for sure.  Get rid of Eberflus and Poles.  Find a quality GM and coach and some O-lineman for starters.  Then maybe the Bears can be competitive again.  If you look at Eberflus' record there isn't any case known to man why he should still be coaching this team.  I think he's 3-19 on the road. 

Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 08:20:08 PMWhen they have time, weapons, and get the ball out on time, sure.  I give Goff all of the credit in the world for running the Lions offense.   He and Johnson are in sync.  When it is flowing, and it has been for a lot of the season, it is magic to watch.

Goff does not make the plays a Mahomes, Allen, Jackson all make.   I appreciate him for what he is.

Saquon Barkley.

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 28, 2024, 05:09:45 PMIf the amount of veteran players subtly calling out the coaching staff isn't enough to fire Eberflus in season, then nothing will change the organization's philosophy of not firing in season.

Keenan Allen wasn't very subtle.

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2024, 09:55:18 PMI just heard a stat about Eberflus.  There have been 221 coaches in NFL history that have played in 20+ games decided by 7pts of fewer. Of those 221, Eberflus is 221.  Williams has talent for sure.  Get rid of Eberflus and Poles.  Find a quality GM and coach and some O-lineman for starters.  Then maybe the Bears can be competitive again.  If you look at Eberflus' record there isn't any case known to man why he should still be coaching this team.  I think he's 3-19 on the road. 

Poles has actually done a good job IMO. There is talent on that field. But this next coaching decision needs to be 100% about Caleb Williams' development with an offensive minded coach that is going to develop his obvious talent. (It should have been made last off season but that's water under the bridge now.)

Quote from: BM1090 on November 28, 2024, 07:18:11 PMThink he's protecting Caleb here but doubling down makes it worse regardless of the reason.

But also he was NOWHERE near the same page with his rookie QB.

When they took the first TO in the drive, Caleb was wanting to move and ready to go and Flus called the TO.  Now at the end where they are on 6s and 7s and he should be on top of it, Flus is staring blinking into the void.

Caleb holds some of the blame for sure.  But he played his ass off to get them back into the game and was further let down by a guy who is coaching like an unplugged Madden controller.

Classic call of the unbearable Bears ending from Jason Benetti.


https://x.com/wrhiv_72/status/1862244230019551471?

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 29, 2024, 06:48:32 AMPoles has actually done a good job IMO. There is talent on that field. But this next coaching decision needs to be 100% about Caleb Williams' development with an offensive minded coach that is going to develop his obvious talent. (It should have been made last off season but that's water under the bridge now.)

I agree Poles has done OK. But I wonder if he is a real GM with real GM powers or if he is just a player acquisition guy.

Does he even have the power to fire Flus or does he have to defer to Warren and McCaskey for that decision?