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Good luck with that. The back channels will be wide open.
No, that's stupid. Coaches & SA's are not the same.
Me likey.Give athletes the same rights every other student has, including students who aren't athletes. Many schools give scholarships to theater students, music students, journalism students, etc. Indeed, when I was at the MU Tribune, many students received scholarships, including a full scholarship for the editor in chief. Any of those students could have transferred without having to sit out a year before being eligible to work at their new school's media outlets.Once upon a time, freshmen athletes were ineligible. The rule was antiquated and was thrown out. Once upon a time, basketball players weren't allowed to dunk. The rule was antiquated and was thrown out. Same is true of this rule. It's a relic from another era. Dump it!
Why are so many people against the notion of kids changing their mind and transferring? Some of these athletes are 16, sometimes younger, when the commit to a program. 16-18 year olds make rash decisions.Hell, 21 year olds make rash decisions. Basically with the current transfer rules you are handcuffing kids, yes kids, to a decision they made when they weren't even allowed to drive or vote.
There would still be restrictions/violations on recruiting players who are already on scholarships at other schools. That will never change.
Poor kids handcuffed into getting a $120K education for free.They aren't handcuffed. Feel free to transfer. It just adds one extra year of a $30K/year education plus all the free travel, merchandise, exposure, and networking that comes with it.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Great, even better. They can get out of school a year early so save the programs some money. What is the downside? "Free agency" Please, it's already like that as it is. May as well stop pretending to care about the "students well being" and let them be.
1) It's never been about the "students well being." It's always been about one thing. $$$$$$$$$.2) Again, the narrative that these student athletes are starving and/or slaves is a joke. They're getting $100K+ worth of free education. Leaving school with no debt is a VERY BIG DEAL! Even if the student athlete makes $0.00 through athletics and the endorsement those things bring, they are given every opportunity to be set up for life with a free education. Their "well being" is just fine.
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
I am a fan of consistency. If you make regular transfers sit out a year, than make graduate and juco transfers sit out a year as well. If it is truly about helping the student acclimate and not about discouraging transfers then grad student and juco transfers statistically need even more help acclimating than traditional transfers do.
I'd be interested to hear your actual argument about why coaches should be allowed to switch programs immediately, but players should not. The departure of a coach is more disruptive by orders of magnitude.
The student acclimation year is clearly a lie. Otherwise it would apply to all sports, all transfer types, and freshmen.
One is a coach, one is a student-athlete. Completely different. "Players" commit to institutions up front and agree to these rules.
Coaches on the other hand are often not allowed to leave one school and immediately work at a new one (e.g.,. see Crean this year)... the penalties (e.g., offsetting buyouts) are so severe that there is a major disincentive to get another coaching job immediately, even if it's what you desire. But again, the coach agreed to it up front so I have no beef with it.
No, this is silly talk. You can draw the line somewhere -- it's not crazy to do so. Happens all the time in all areas of life. Not all sports have equal rigor/requirements.. not all sports have similar transfer stats (e.g., how well they do at new school, graduation rates, demographics, etc.). There are reasonable arguments why it makes sense to treat some sports differently.
Surely you hate the idea of foreign tours allowed to basketball teams. Why can't football teams do this? Why not baseball? Or swimming? It's such B.S.!!!! UGH!!!!!!! Summer workouts allowed in bball... why do they get different rules!?!?!?!?!? Ughhh!!! All sports should be treated equal, right?
One is a coach, one is a student-athlete. Completely different. "Players" commit to institutions up front and agree to these rules.Student-athletes are allowed to switch schools and immediately be given a full ride at the new institution - what an amazing gift! Coaches on the other hand are often not allowed to leave one school and immediately work at a new one (e.g.,. see Crean this year)... the penalties (e.g., offsetting buyouts) are so severe that there is a major disincentive to get another coaching job immediately, even if it's what you desire. But again, the coach agreed to it up front so I have no beef with it.Now, if student-athletes couldn't receive financial aid at a new place immediately, I'd be concerned. That's simply no the case. They are able to practice, be a part of the program, get great benefits... A coach's departure is more disruptive to a PROGRAM. A student changing schools is more disruptive to his personal academics. Stop putting $ and sports ahead of the student, folks!No, this is silly talk. You can draw the line somewhere -- it's not crazy to do so. Happens all the time in all areas of life. Not all sports have equal rigor/requirements.. not all sports have similar transfer stats (e.g., how well they do at new school, graduation rates, demographics, etc.). There are reasonable arguments why it makes sense to treat some sports differently.Surely you hate the idea of foreign tours allowed to basketball teams. Why can't football teams do this? Why not baseball? Or swimming? It's such B.S.!!!! UGH!!!!!!! Summer workouts allowed in bball... why do they get different rules!?!?!?!?!? Ughhh!!! All sports should be treated equal, right?
It would seem that other sports are allowed to do foreign tours. I don't claim to be the rule expert you are but this seems like a situation where if the roles were reversed you'd condescendingly tell a person they're wrong and then stroke your own ego because of your knowledge of the rules. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DI_Playing_and_Practice_Seasons%20_Foreign_Tours_and_Outside_Competition-SEMINAR_06302016.pptx
With all due respect, many of those students who transfer and are immediately eligible in theatre/media no longer get scholarships. The big scholarships are for incoming freshman, there are far fewer transfer scholarships. So it isn't exactly a good comparison. They also usually have lower priority in getting the acting roles or becoming things like an editor. So there are massive punishments, albeit not formal punishments.Add to it, what Wades says, that often many of your credits don't even transfer, and the athletes right now really have the major advantage over a "common student".How many players would transfer if they could get immediate eligibility, but would only get a half ride at the new school? Or would have to defer a starting role to players that are already on the roster. My guess, next to none.
Football teams can do foreign trips: https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/06/14/michigan-italy-trip-cost
Quoted for truth.