Poll: Will MU Make NCAA Tournament?

[skianth16]

We aren't on the bubble. We aren't close to the bubble. We aren't one of the programs sweating if ETSU or San Diego State gets knocked out of their tournament.

Have you looked at any "worst case" type scenarios to see where we might fall to if we lose out? I assume our NET wouldn't slide much more than another 5 to 10 spots even in the worst scenario. And that would still keep up solidly in the field. Is that about right?

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?

I think it does.  That's the sad part.

100% on point.   The projos will be back en force.   I would much rather just have wojo exit.  But i fear its gonna be like a b horror movie.  Just when you thought it was dead it just keeps on coming back!

[curbina]

Yes, MU is in and it will be a great experience the players.  I also think it is very clear that Wojo is done!

[Silent Verbal]

The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?

I think it does.  That's the sad part.

Please.  A win against a Paul Reed-less DePaul team would’ve brought back the Projos.  It doesn’t take much.

[rocky_warrior]

Please.  A win against a Paul Reed-less DePaul team would’ve brought back the Projos.  It doesn’t take much.

Any most of the folks posting tonight would have quietly sulked away.  Funny how that works, eh?

[5DollarPitcher]

Any most of the folks posting tonight would have quietly sulked away.  Funny how that works, eh?

Because we are tired of having our noses rubbed in single digit victories over DePaul, home blow-outs of Georgetown, and NIT Elite Eight appearances.  Ridiculous post.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

MU locked up a bid awhile ago. NCAA tournament isn't about the 68 best teams at the end of the season. It's about the 68 teams that earned a bid. We earned ours early. Would rather we have earned it late.

[willie warrior]

Yep. We are in.

Totally different question than whether we will win, whether fans will care, or whether Wojo should go.

Yep we are in....a deep pile of doo doo.

[brewcity77]

Have you looked at any "worst case" type scenarios to see where we might fall to if we lose out? I assume our NET wouldn't slide much more than another 5 to 10 spots even in the worst scenario. And that would still keep up solidly in the field. Is that about right?

There are a finite number of bids that can be stolen because they can only be stolen in leagues where champions will definitely make the field. So St John's winning the Big East would steal a bid, but Bowling Green winning the MAC wouldn't because Akron isn't getting an at-large.

Absolute worst case scenario would be 12 bids stolen: Big East, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, American, WCC, A-10, & Mountain West for sure. If you squint, maybe the SoCon & MVC.

That eats up the 6 bids on the 11-line, 4 bids on the 10, and 2 on the 9. We are still 7/8 if you look at bracketmatrix. And a true worst case scenario of every possible bid being stolen won't happen. If 4 are stolen, that would be high. 6-7 would be unprecedented mayhem territory. There's no plausible scenario where we get to 10+ bids stolen. And even if we do, we're still safe, even with another Q1 loss.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I posted this in another thread, but probably more relevant here. 

Its truly amazing having watched this collapse first hand, but purely resume-wise, MU is still likely a 7 seed even with 2 more losses in a row.  Now, maybe the committee would ding them a line or two in that scenario having lost 7 of 8 (cant blame them!), but purely from a resume standpoint, there is an ocean between MU and the last 4 in.

MU is 5-9 in Q1, 6-2 in Q2, Q3 2-0 and Q4 5-0, with a NET of 26.  That is 11 Q1 and Q2 wins, and zero losses outside of Q1 and Q2 with only 7 games in that category.

Also MU won't have the chance to pick up and Q3 or Q4 losses rest of way.  @SJU is Q1.  Worst case losing to Depaul in BET at MSG would be Q2.  So yeah...

Compare that to the last 4 at large teams in per bracket matrix:

Stanford Q1: 5-5; Q2: 2-3; Q3: 6-1; Q4: 7-0; NET 25
Cinci Q1: 2-6; Q2: 7-0; Q3: 7-4; Q4: 3-0; NET 51
UCLA Q1: 6-6, Q2: 3-3; Q3: 4-1; Q4: 5-1; NET 75
Utah State Q1: 2-4; Q2: 2-2: Q3: 7-2; Q4: 10-0; NET: 38

Its frankly not close.

[Marqevans]

Will be hard to do. The team is a one-trick pony.

[BM1090]

I posted this in another thread, but probably more relevant here. 

Its truly amazing having watched this collapse first hand, but purely resume-wise, MU is still likely a 7 seed even with 2 more losses in a row.  Now, maybe the committee would ding them a line or two in that scenario having lost 7 of 8 (cant blame them!), but purely from a resume standpoint, there is an ocean between MU and the last 4 in.

MU is 5-9 in Q1, 6-2 in Q2, Q3 2-0 and Q4 5-0, with a NET of 26.  That is 11 Q1 and Q2 wins, and zero losses outside of Q1 and Q2 with only 7 games in that category.

Also MU won't have the chance to pick up and Q3 or Q4 losses rest of way.  @SJU is Q1.  Worst case losing to Depaul in BET at MSG would be Q2.  So yeah...

Compare that to the last 4 at large teams in per bracket matrix:

Stanford Q1: 5-5; Q2: 2-3; Q3: 6-1; Q4: 7-0; NET 25
Cinci Q1: 2-6; Q2: 7-0; Q3: 7-4; Q4: 3-0; NET 51
UCLA Q1: 6-6, Q2: 3-3; Q3: 4-1; Q4: 5-1; NET 75
Utah State Q1: 2-4; Q2: 2-2: Q3: 7-2; Q4: 10-0; NET: 38

Its frankly not close.

We're an 8 today on Bracketville. I think we could easily slide down to the 9 or 10 line if we keep losing. We won't miss the tournament but our seed could continue to slide.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

We're an 8 today on Bracketville. I think we could easily slide down to the 9 or 10 line if we keep losing. We won't miss the tournament but our seed could continue to slide.

Yah, I mean - I think we deserve a 9/10 seed if we finish the season losing 7/8, even if the resume looks a little better. 

[Herman Cain]

Poll reset to zero. Facts have changed since first poll .

Final results of old poll 68.5 % yes 31.5% no

New poll adds option for winning Big East

[4everwarriors]

Poetic justice for y'all Dayton haters if MU is one of the last 4 in and da Flyers are a 1 seed, aina?

[brewcity77]

Yes, they are a lock, stop this stupidity.

This hasn't changed.

[mu03eng]

This hasn't changed.

Well things have certainly gotten stoopider since, so that changed