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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2019, 06:39:44 PM »
I believe it is.  It's matched in our wiki, which I believe was pulled from a media guide. Last updated in 2016, but I don't think MU has had any single season records since then.
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/single_season_blocks
What would make you believe otherwise?

edit: wrong link

What was posted is not inaccurate in what it stated. However, it is only accurate if you consider that Warrior basketball started in 1983.

I contend that there were Warriors before 1984 who blocked shots.

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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2019, 06:43:29 PM »
What was posted is not inaccurate in what it stated. However, it is only accurate if you consider that Warrior basketball I contend that there were Warriors before 1984 who blocked shots.

Just like you walked uphill to school...both ways, huh grandpa? 

Kidding. I get it, but if you can't quantify it, then the current list is correct.

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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2019, 08:08:02 PM »
Just like you walked uphill to school...both ways, huh grandpa? 

Kidding. I get it, but if you can't quantify it, then the current list is correct.

Any list of MU shot blockers that doesn’t include Jim Chones is not accurate. No, I can’t quantify that. But I also won’t pretend he didn’t block shots cuz they didn’t keep track of them at the time.

The list is accurate for MU players after 1983. Nothing more.

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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2019, 08:37:25 PM »
142 blocks??? Now that’s rim protection.




A reel guy's gonna protect his rim, hey?
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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2019, 09:24:01 PM »
It's worth noting that blocks weren't an official NCAA statistic until the 1985-86 season. So the list doesn't include past MU greats such as Jerome Whitehead, Bo Ellis, Maurice Lucas or Jim Chones.

Still, being one of the best shot-blockers since the Kevin O'Neill era is no small accomplishment.
Or Michael Wilson. For a guard, that guy blocked a lot of shots!

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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2019, 09:25:29 PM »
I'd love to know how many blocks Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell racked up in their collegiate careers.

It's not official, but someone online compiled a list of 112 NBA games of shot block data for Wilt -- based on newspaper reports, game film, etc. (Blocks weren't an official NBA statistic until the 1973-74 season.) In those games, he apparently averaged 8.8 bpg. That includes 17 blocks in his very first NBA game. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar later said "In terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt."

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3s7rlj/heres_112_nba_games_where_shot_block_data_exists/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6txx2e/on_march_18_1968_wilt_chamberlain_allegedly_put/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/430859-bill-russell-the-greatest-shot-blocker-of-all-time
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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2019, 09:51:13 PM »
BTW, Navy's David Robinson holds the all-time Division I college basketball record for blocks in a season. He rejected 207 shots (5.9 bpg) during the 1985-86 season.

Georgetown's Alonzo Mourning is the all-time record-holder in the Big East. He blocked 169 shots (5.0 bpg) during the 1988-89 season.

So Mac's record is safe as long as Mutumbo, Robinson, Mourning or pre 85 guys like Wilt, Russell, Walton, Chones and many more that I'm not recalling walk through that door.

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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2019, 10:39:19 PM »
So Mac's record is safe as long as Mutumbo, Robinson, Mourning or pre 85 guys like Wilt, Russell, Walton, Chones and many more that I'm not recalling walk through that door.

And Mac's conference records are safe as long as the Great Midwest Conference (defunct since 1995) never reforms.
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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2019, 03:18:05 PM »
After 27 games, Theo is now tied with Walter Downing for 7th most blocks in a season:

142 - Jim McIlvaine (1993-94)
92 - Jim McIlvaine (1990-91)
86 - Jim McIlvaine (1991-92)
84 - Faisal Abraham (1996-97)
79 - Jim McIlvaine (1992-93)
76 - Amal McCaskill (1994-95)
63 - Theo John (2018-19)
63 - Walter Downing (1984-85)
58 - Faisal Abraham (1995-96)
55 - Amal McCaskill (1995-96)

Assuming Marquette plays 37 games total, Theo is on a pace to finish the season with 86 blocks -- tied with Jim McIlvaine's sophomore season for 3rd most all-time. (It's worth noting that Big Mac accomplished that total in just 29 games.)
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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2019, 03:20:54 PM »
I've been trying to downplay that Walter Downing ever played for MU with my DePaul friends and make them own him. This isn't helping.

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Re: Theo climbing the ladder
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2019, 07:02:52 AM »



A reel guy's gonna protect his rim, hey?

Unwanted rim intrusion costs games. Always, always, always protect the back door.