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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChicosBailBonds on May 03, 2007, 04:20:57 PM

Title: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 03, 2007, 04:20:57 PM
When Lott graduates this December, it will be 21 of 21 players graduating that have completed their playing eligibility
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: muarmy81 on May 03, 2007, 04:29:54 PM
That's good to hear.  I still chuckle when I see Cincy and Memphis' graduation rates...0%

Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: TVDirector on May 03, 2007, 09:59:11 PM
ok..
then I guess I need an explanation of the formula...
MU hoops was only just above the threshold, and lower than UW, I believe.

what goes into that thing?
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: muarmy81 on May 04, 2007, 05:42:02 AM
Are you thinking of the APR?  If so, the reason MU's is so low is because we've had quite a few transfers over the past 3-4 years.  We loose points for each transfer and we loose an additional point if that transfer leaves before officially becoming academically eligible for that semester.  (Ol' Niv really hurt us, he transferred before he became eligible so he cost the program 2 points)
As far as the guys who stay with the program for their entire collegiate career we've had the last 21 graduate...pretty good I think especially in today's college landscape.
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: NYWarrior on May 04, 2007, 08:11:02 AM
Are you thinking of the APR?  If so, the reason MU's is so low is because we've had quite a few transfers over the past 3-4 years.  We loose points for each transfer and we loose an additional point if that transfer leaves before officially becoming academically eligible for that semester.  (Ol' Niv really hurt us, he transferred before he became eligible so he cost the program 2 points)

complete analysis of the APR here, year by year going back to 2005

http://marquettebasketball.blogspot.com/2007/05/mu-not-going-to-lose-scholarships-in.html
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: 1990Warrior on May 04, 2007, 10:49:06 AM
With respect to the APR, I do not understand why a school should be punished for a transfer.  People transfer for lot of reasons.  If they are in good academic standing, why do we lose a point?  Because of this we were close to the limit.  I think that we are much better than Cincinnati who lost a scholarship, yet by the APR we are very close.  This does not make sense to me.
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 04, 2007, 10:54:18 AM
Are you thinking of the APR?  If so, the reason MU's is so low is because we've had quite a few transfers over the past 3-4 years.

Our transfer situation is the same as every school in the NCAA, according to some on this board.

Incidentally, can we expect another exodus at the end of the academic year?
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 04, 2007, 01:50:07 PM
With respect to the APR, I do not understand why a school should be punished for a transfer.  People transfer for lot of reasons.  If they are in good academic standing, why do we lose a point?  Because of this we were close to the limit.  I think that we are much better than Cincinnati who lost a scholarship, yet by the APR we are very close.  This does not make sense to me.

Actually, under the new APR the transfers aren't as big a punishment as they were in the past.  If a kid stays a semester, 2, 3...you get partial credit for each semester they are there and complete.  In the old days it was an all of nothing proposition.  The new system is much fairer.

32% of DI athletes transfer each year.  It's part of the deal in today's world.

PRN...yes, I suspect one individual will not be playing for MU next year.
Title: Re: 21 of 21 graduated
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 04, 2007, 01:51:34 PM
ok..
then I guess I need an explanation of the formula...
MU hoops was only just above the threshold, and lower than UW, I believe.

what goes into that thing?

The 21 of 21 are players that stayed at MU and completed their playing eligibility...the Cordell Henry's, Nnamakas, Wardles, etc of the world.  In other words, guys that have completed their eligibility aren't out there doing nothing, they are completing their degrees.