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Author Topic: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?  (Read 6638 times)

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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2007, 10:46:50 AM »
Hold off the Cubs? Please.

If the Brewers were New Orleans, the Cubs would be Lake Pontchartrain. Unfortunately for Milwaukee fans, Hurricane Lou is just a few miles from shore.

Because the Cubs have a history of finishing strong......

I cannot believe Brewers fans say stuff like this. If Cub fans were in the same situation as Brewer fans, the team would be giving out bobblehead dolls of Jerome Walton, Domingo Ramos and Luis Salazar every Friday night.

What?
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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2007, 10:55:00 AM »
Linebrink is much better than so-so. He's struggled some away from San Diego this season, but over his career that's more exception than rule.

And it's worth pointing out that in 2005 and 2006 -- years in which the Padres were in a playoff race -- Linebrink's late season numbers were:

Aug.:  1-1, 2.31 ERA
Sept.: 5-2, 2.00 ERA

This what fans in baseball cities with competetive franchises call "going for it." Welcome to the club, Milwaukee.
Good teams trade away prospects for proven commodoties every year and very rarely does it come back to haunt them.

I am all for "going for it" but I think we gave up too much for what we got in return.  I can't take the credit for this but here are some numbers from Dodds board on the numbers from Linebrink that I am referring to:

"Linebrink away from Petco: 6.05 ERA .313 BAA 5HR 25 hits in 19.1 IP" Ilovefreeway

"ERA is at a personal four-year high (3rd year in a row it has gone up), and since the ASG guys are hitting .360 against him.  That's not news - - last year he was tagged at a .304 clip after the ASG (not to mention a miserable WHIP). "  NYWarrior

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=415&F=2861#S=415&F=2861&T=755728


Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Inman is a very good young prospect who was rated as the Brewers 3rd best prospect after Braun and Gallardo.  Furthermore, there are a lot of great prospects that get traded that do end up haunting their former team.  I just feel theat the Brewers should have received more in return for the prospects they dealt but hey I will take this disappointment over the disappointment of not even being in contention.


I'll say this and leave it alone:

The Brewers are a franchise that haven't made a playoff appearance in 25 years.  They haven't sniffed a playoff race in 15 years. It's nice to say they have a good solid coore and will contend for the foreseeable future, but there's no way of knowing that. And there's no reason to believe the sCrubs won't continue to spend money like the NL version of the Yankees and that 2007 isn't a one-year abomination for the Cardinals.

Under those circumstances, I don't see how a fan could be upset about obtaining a proven reliever to bolster what might be a rare playoff opportunity in exchange for a Double-A pitcher with an ERA over 5.45, a decent relief prospect and a throw in. Yeah, it may not work out, but when you've been as miserable for so long as the Brewers, how do you not take a reasonable gamble to win now?

As for Inman's propsect rating, ingest with a large grain of salt. The Brewer's #1 prospects over the past decade have included the likes of Todd Dunn, Valerio de los Santos, Ron Belliard, Nick Neugebauer (twice) and Brad Nelson.

The Cubs 2007 payroll ranks them 8th in MLB.  The Yankees is nearly double that of the Cubs.  Let's get our facts straight.

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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2007, 11:08:48 AM »
Hold off the Cubs? Please.

If the Brewers were New Orleans, the Cubs would be Lake Pontchartrain. Unfortunately for Milwaukee fans, Hurricane Lou is just a few miles from shore.

Because the Cubs have a history of finishing strong......

Or because the Brewers have a history of running away with divisions....

 ;D


Never said that now did I. But they don't have a history of screwing it up all the time.
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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2007, 11:31:35 AM »
The Cubs 2007 payroll ranks them 8th in MLB.  The Yankees is nearly double that of the Cubs.  Let's get our facts straight.

Speaking of getting our facts straight, why not re-read my post? I likened the Cubs to the Yankees of "the NL."
The Cubs, in fact, have the second-highest payroll in the National League and nobody spent more on free agents during the most recent offseason than they did ($300+ million!!!!).
Perhaps you would have preferred "like the Red Sox of the NL."  ::)

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Salary arguments getting old
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2007, 11:44:56 AM »
These salary arguments are getting old.  First, people critique Cubs fans for going to games when the team doesn't spend money.  Now, we hear the Cubs are the Yankees of the National League.  This despite guys like Marmol, Theriault, Fontenot, Marshall, Hill, Zambrano, etc., who are home grown.

The hypocrisy of the arguments on the Cubs is getting old.  I would have more respect for someone to say, "I don't like the fans who come up to Milwaukee" or "I feel like they are all bangwagon fans".  At least base your dislike on opinion, but some supposed management issue you have with the team.

I saw numerous posts here about how the Cubs overpaid for players like DeRosa and Lilly and look how critical they have been to this team.  This is actually a well put together team.  Whether they get into the playoffs, we shall see.

I must say I do like the Nightmare "Lake Pontchartrain" comment.   ;D
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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2007, 12:26:56 PM »
Yeah, but this smells a lot like Jon Garland for Matt Krachner

That was a fantastic trade.  One of my favorites of all time.
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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2007, 12:44:00 PM »


Turnbow was on the Angels when I was there...never impressed...we cut him loose.  He's not the answer.

The Angels also released Bobby Jenks, who's phenomenal. You've got to take into consideration that the Angels bullpen has been off the charts since their WS year.
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Yeah, Jenks really came into his own...the Halos had him as a starter in the minors and he basically had one good year and 4 or 5 losing years.  The White Sox put him as a closer which was smart as hell.

NY, I'm not overly impressed with the player they got either, I just don't feel they gave up the farm like some seem to be thinking.  I do, however, put a extra amount of love on someone that has gone through the playoffs before which is one thing he has.

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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2007, 12:44:46 PM »
Hold off the Cubs? Please.

If the Brewers were New Orleans, the Cubs would be Lake Pontchartrain. Unfortunately for Milwaukee fans, Hurricane Lou is just a few miles from shore.

Because the Cubs have a history of finishing strong......

Or because the Brewers have a history of running away with divisions....

 ;D


Never said that now did I. But they don't have a history of screwing it up all the time.

I know...just playing with ya.

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Re: Salary arguments getting old
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2007, 01:24:42 PM »
These salary arguments are getting old.  First, people critique Cubs fans for going to games when the team doesn't spend money.  Now, we hear the Cubs are the Yankees of the National League.  This despite guys like Marmol, Theriault, Fontenot, Marshall, Hill, Zambrano, etc., who are home grown.

The hypocrisy of the arguments on the Cubs is getting old.  I would have more respect for someone to say, "I don't like the fans who come up to Milwaukee" or "I feel like they are all bangwagon fans".  At least base your dislike on opinion, but some supposed management issue you have with the team.

I saw numerous posts here about how the Cubs overpaid for players like DeRosa and Lilly and look how critical they have been to this team.  This is actually a well put together team.  Whether they get into the playoffs, we shall see.

I must say I do like the Nightmare "Lake Pontchartrain" comment.   ;D

Sheesh ... would somebody bother reading my post before criticizing my point? Nowhere was I critical of the Cubs' spending.

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Re: OT: Did the Brewers just trade Inman for a so-so relief pitcher?
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2007, 06:22:39 PM »
I say let's get Peter Ladd out of retirement.  Now that was one great setup man!!