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If you actually listened to his interview, you would know that he explicitly said he wouldn't comment on any timeline regarding mask wearing, because it would just be a guess, and the headlines would be that "Fauci says masks until 20xx". He said he is hopeful that vaccines will do their job and life will return to normal, but any timelines is pure speculation.So, maybe actually listen to the good doctor, instead of spouting off.
What many people don't seem to understand (or refuse to acknowledge) is that the virus will continue to circulate and replicate long after most American adults are vaccinated. That's because (1) the vaccines are still not approved in the US for kids under 16; and (2) most countries are WAY behind the US in vaccinating their populations because they don't yet have access. Additionally, it is still speculated that vaccinated adults can harbor and pass the virus.This continued circulation will lead to more mutations, which could lead to vaccine-resistant variants, which could lead to another whole round of hospitalizations and deaths.The best way to avoid such a resurgence of sickness and death is to practice continued mask-wearing and some degree of social distancing until we have achieved something resembling worldwide herd immunity. And that may be quite a while....
I think people understand this concept and are likely calculating that COVID will become endemic. However, I think you are under-estimating the public's ability or willingness to get back to normal life once the severity is knocked down with vaccines.
Actually, I have a very realistic view of what most of the American public will likely do. I expect most to stop wearing masks by sometime this summer, and go back mostly to pre-Covid behavior.
Disagree, mainly because most won't be allowed to. You think we'll see mask rules rolled back this summer? Capacity limits gone? The messaging is already laying the ground work to keep masks/distancing in place well past this summer.
500,000. More than WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, 9/11 combined. #noworsethantheflu
I think there will be significant public pushback, if that's the case. I mean we all see people now going into stores without a mask, even though 'rules' require them. Once it gets to Summer and more of the general public is vaccinated and less concerned, the number of people doing that will increase drastically. Maybe some concert/sports venues, Disney World, things like that may still limit capacity, but most other things will be back to normal. It's already happening. We went out to eat at a popular brunch spot on Saturday. This is in WI, so no limited capacity requirements. There was a 45 minute wait and every table was filled the whole time we were there.
What insane is as far as pandemics go this isn't that bad. Justinian or Black plagues must've been completely unimaginable and you get a lot more real life context after living through this.
Right but neither of those would be nearly as deadly now as they were back then.
I think you missed my point. Simply just that it unimaginable what a considerably more deadly pandemic must've been like.
That would be prudent from a disease management standpoint...but I tend to agree with Frenns that the public pushback will be too strong.
The appetite for continued serious mitigation efforts already is very low.
There is a difference between refusing to do the very minimum and shrugging off the severity of it, and being willingly to dutifully continue with every stated precaution even after being vaccinated. That’s a very different animal IMO. If, like GOO states, the prudent thing would be to continue to mask well into 2022 or beyond? Good luck. I understand the fallibility of timelines when dealing with epidemiology and evolving science, but the constant shifting, even with the best intentions, can desensitize and exhaust even respectful and contentious members of society.For me, it kind of boils down to, would you rather more people vaccinate and then begin to live life as normal, or have people be wary of the vaccine or think “what’s the point” and continue with moderate vaccinate numbers and pushing for masking and social distancing, cause I don’t think expecting both is logical. I mean, it’s really the same school of though that people should wear masks if they feel ill or during flu season. Maybe that’s the most responsible epidemiological response, but that seems pretty unrealistic
That's kind of where I am. I think early compliance criticism was warranted, but many to most people are following advice these days.i understand why they don't know yet if people are infectious post vaccine, but answering that question could be really critical . It may not make a huge difference to public health, but if they could say "get the vaccine and ditch the mask after x weeks", it would be the best vaccination campaign money could buy.
There is a difference between refusing to do the very minimum and shrugging off the severity of it, and being willing to dutifully continue with every stated precaution even after being vaccinated. That’s a very different animal IMO. If, like GOO states, the prudent thing would be to continue to mask well into 2022 or beyond? Good luck. I understand the fallibility of timelines when dealing with epidemiology and evolving science, but the constant shifting, even with the best intentions, can desensitize and exhaust even respectful and conscientious members of society.For me, it kind of boils down to, would you rather more people vaccinate and then begin to live life as normal, or have people be wary of the vaccine or think “what’s the point” and continue with moderate vaccinate numbers and pushing for masking and social distancing, cause I don’t think expecting both is logical. I mean, it’s really the same school of though that people should wear masks if they feel ill or during flu season. Maybe that’s the most responsible epidemiological response, but that seems pretty unrealistic
I keep seeing summaries on the vaccines.1) If you get a vaccine your are not dying. Period.2) If you get the vaccine and you get sick you will not get a severe case of COVID. You won't end up in the hospital.3) Sounds like there is plenty of real world January data now that completely backs up the vaccine study results.Winter is really wearing on my COVID-fatigue. I'm still taking plenty of cautions and still won't eat out, inside a restaurant, until vaccinated.