Big East refs blow an obvious double-dribble on UVA

[94Warrior]

Welcome to the club Auburn.  You got jobbed by Breeding and his band of idiots.

Probably for the best, had Auburn won it all, the title would eventually be vacated thanks to Chuck Person & Bruce Pearl. 

Tony Bennett, like his dad, is one of the good guys.  I am pulling for UVA.

[auburnmarquette]

Everyone admitted that no one thought it was a double dribble until they started looking at replays. No coach or player complained, no announcer etc. It was a missed call but one that would likely be missed most of the time - the kind that if it was called everyone would have been outraged in disbelief and then realized it was a great call. Just like a bad roll - Auburn caught a bad break. I live 2 miles from the celebration they still had!

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2019/4/6/18298710/auburn-final-four-celebration-video-toomers-corner-premature-virginia-final-four-march-madness

[Pakuni]

Everyone admitted that no one thought it was a double dribble until they started looking at replays. No coach or player complained, no announcer etc. It was a missed call but one that would likely be missed most of the time - the kind that if it was called everyone would have been outraged in disbelief and then realized it was a great call. Just like a bad roll - Auburn caught a bad break. I live 2 miles from the celebration they still had!

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2019/4/6/18298710/auburn-final-four-celebration-video-toomers-corner-premature-virginia-final-four-march-madness

Exactly. It was obvious to no one until the game was over.

[94Warrior]

Disagree.  Double-dribble is the easiest call in all of basketball. 

Did you think the defender knocked the ball away?  Because, if you did not, as soon as he put 2 hands on the ball the dribble was dead.  Really easy call, especially in the open court.

I saw it immediately, and I would think most serious fans/coaches did the same.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Disagree.  Double-dribble is the easiest call in all of basketball. 

Did you think the defender knocked the ball away?  Because, if you did not, as soon as he put 2 hands on the ball the dribble was dead.  Really easy call, especially in the open court.

I saw it immediately, and I would think most serious fans/coaches did the same.

Pearl didn’t. Even after the timeout there were no complaints.

[Cheeks]

Disagree.  Double-dribble is the easiest call in all of basketball. 

Did you think the defender knocked the ball away?  Because, if you did not, as soon as he put 2 hands on the ball the dribble was dead.  Really easy call, especially in the open court.

I saw it immediately, and I would think most serious fans/coaches did the same.

Moot, he was fouled before it even happened...ref missed the foul as well.  Pearl was telling them and motioning to foul UVA, which they did.  UVA got lucky, it happens.

[94Warrior]

Pearl didn’t. Even after the timeout there were no complaints.

Pearl was busy instructing his players to foul, and looking at them.  He wasn't looking at the ballhandler, or he would have gone ballistic.

2 refs were looking right at the ballhandler, and swallowed their whistles.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Pearl was busy instructing his players to foul, and looking at them.  He wasn't looking at the ballhandler, or he would have gone ballistic.

2 refs were looking right at the ballhandler, and swallowed their whistles.

Oh.

[94Warrior]

Oh.

Whatever.

Poor officiating in college basketball is tolerated, Pearl is dirty, Bennett is clean, nothing to see here until it happens to the team you love (and it will, again). 

Rant over.

[Pakuni]

Whatever.

Poor officiating in college basketball is tolerated, Pearl is dirty, Bennett is clean, nothing to see here until it happens to the team you love (and it will, again). 

Rant over.

The exact same officiating crew that called a foul on a three-point shot with .6 seconds remaining swallowed their whistle on a blatant and obvious double dribbled (one so blatant and obvious that neither the Auburn coaching staff or TV commentators saw it) several seconds earlier?
OK.

[GooooMarquette]

Whether or not Pearl saw it is irrelevant. The rule is clear and absolute, and the officials who were a couple feet away missed the call. As for the attempted foul...we have all seen how incredibly variable contact can be to draw a foul. Some guys get knocked to the floor with no call, while others get a call with little or no contact.

I know it's hard for people to admit Pearl's team got screwed on that sequence...but Pearl's team got screwed on that sequence.

[Cheeks]

Easier missed call, he was fouled before he picked it up again for the double dribble.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/GsdewRt7t_U&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/GsdewRt7t_U&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>

Jay Williams properly calls out Pandora's Box

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/f4wrBBCFfY0&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/f4wrBBCFfY0&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>

[Cheeks]

Slight jersey grab, eh Dimer.  LOL

[Cheeks]

Did Auburn player travel here seconds before?  We can play this game forever.

https://twitter.com/KyleNel21575344/status/1114727752253546496

[Pakuni]

Whether or not Pearl saw it is irrelevant. The rule is clear and absolute, and the officials who were a couple feet away missed the call. As for the attempted foul...we have all seen how incredibly variable contact can be to draw a foul. Some guys get knocked to the floor with no call, while others get a call with little or no contact.

I know it's hard for people to admit Pearl's team got screwed on that sequence...but Pearl's team got screwed on that sequence.

Straw man.
I don't see anyone here saying that it wasn't a missed call. The issues is whether, as 94 claims, it was an obvious double dribble that the officials willfully ignored, or whether it was difficult to see infraction that apparently nobody in the arena noticed until it had been reviewed on video following a couple of timeouts.
Given the non-reaction by the Auburn players, Auburn bench and TV commentators, common sense dictates the latter.

[GooooMarquette]

Straw man.
I don't see anyone here saying that it wasn't a missed call. The issues is whether, as 94 claims, it was an obvious double dribble that the officials willfully ignored, or whether it was difficult to see infraction that apparently nobody in the arena noticed until it had been reviewed on video following a couple of timeouts.
Given the non-reaction by the Auburn players, Auburn bench and TV commentators, common sense dictates the latter.

I never said they willfully ignored it. I said they blew it. Sounds like you agree.

Have a nice day.

[WarriorFan]

Tony Bennett and UVA will win the natty...  Luck, skill, experience, and officiating are all on their side!


How Breeding got employed in any postseason tournament is a travesty. 

[NickelDimer]

Slight jersey grab, eh Dimer.  LOL

A screen shot to back your argument. Cute. It was a minor grab in that he quickly released it. Any still shots of that chest slap you also said took place? Lmao

Also, unlike that infraction which is a judgment call, the double dribble was not. And for those saying coaches and players weren’t yelling, fans weren’t throwing stuff on the court and no one tried to burn the building down after the missed call, that’s fine. It’s not any of their jobs to officiate the game. It’s the ref’s jobs. It’s their job to know the rules and identify what was an obvious infraction. And they blew that call.

[Loose Cannon]

Pearl was busy instructing his players to foul, and looking at them.  He wasn't looking at the ballhandler, or he would have gone ballistic.

2 refs were looking right at the ballhandler, and swallowed their whistles.

So did the Announcers.  You really are Good.

[Pakuni]

I never said they willfully ignored it. I said they blew it. Sounds like you agree.

Have a nice day.

Ummm ... I wrote:
The issues is whether, as 94 claims, it was an obvious double dribble that the officials willfully ignored

[94Warrior]

Straw man.
I don't see anyone here saying that it wasn't a missed call. The issues is whether, as 94 claims, it was an obvious double dribble that the officials willfully ignored, or whether it was difficult to see infraction that apparently nobody in the arena noticed until it had been reviewed on video following a couple of timeouts.
Given the non-reaction by the Auburn players, Auburn bench and TV commentators, common sense dictates the latter.

Swallowed their whistle was a bad choice of word.  I didn't mean to imply they willfully ignored it.  They are just bad at their jobs. 

Fouls are judgement calls, double-dribbles are not.

[Cheeks]

A screen shot to back your argument. Cute. It was a minor grab in that he quickly released it. Any still shots of that chest slap you also said took place? Lmao

Also, unlike that infraction which is a judgment call, the double dribble was not. And for those saying coaches and players weren’t yelling, fans weren’t throwing stuff on the court and no one tried to burn the building down after the missed call, that’s fine. It’s not any of their jobs to officiate the game. It’s the ref’s jobs. It’s their job to know the rules and identify what was an obvious infraction. And they blew that call.

Every call is a judgment call.....it is up to the ref to make a judgment to blow his whistle and make a call.  As Jay Williams properly said, he was fouled. 

Second, did the Auburn player travel before that on the inbounds pass?  Judgment call.   All of the calls are ultimately a judgment call.

[GooooMarquette]

Ummm ... I wrote:
The issues is whether, as 94 claims, it was an obvious double dribble that the officials willfully ignored

This is 94's original post:

Welcome to the club Auburn.  You got jobbed by Breeding and his band of idiots.

Probably for the best, had Auburn won it all, the title would eventually be vacated thanks to Chuck Person & Bruce Pearl. 

Tony Bennett, like his dad, is one of the good guys.  I am pulling for UVA.

I don't see anything about the refs willfully screwing Auburn or preferring UVa. I just see an accusation of incompetence. And as 94 said just above, he had no intention of implying otherwise.

[94Warrior]

I asked it before, but nobody took the bait.  Did anybody here believe the defender knocked the ball away???? 

That is the ONLY explanation for not seeing a double-dribble in the open court.  There is no judgement to make here.  He PICKED up the ball with both hands and resumed dribbling.

No conspiracy here, just incompetence.

[Cheeks]

I asked it before, but nobody took the bait.  Did anybody here believe the defender knocked the ball away???? 

That is the ONLY explanation for not seeing a double-dribble in the open court.  There is no judgement to make here.  He PICKED up the ball with both hands and resumed dribbling.

No conspiracy here, just incompetence.

The incompetence came from the ref, in this image below, looking STRAIGHT at the play, not calling the foul.  That was the incompetence.  WELL before the double dribble.