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Title: Butler Box Score
Post by: tower912 on January 31, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: wadesworld on January 31, 2015, 04:56:48 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?

Yes. It was about what you'd imagine from this team. To a tee.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 31, 2015, 05:05:34 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?
Yep.  This one hurt.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 31, 2015, 05:24:55 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?

Definitely our most embarrassing melt down to date.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: brewcity77 on January 31, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?

The last four minutes felt like a basement fire, so you really didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 31, 2015, 10:37:50 PM
Pulled a Packer
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: bilsu on January 31, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Pulled a Packer
In a way it was very similar. We are up 10 with just over 4 minutes to go. It was quickly down to 5. Bulter missed one free throw the whole game and it essentially cost us the game. They rebounded the missed free throw and got fouled. Ended up getting three points on the possession instead of one if we rebound it or two if they do not miss miss in the first place. I think it was the next possesion where Butler got blocked twice and ended up with the ball again. Player scored and got fouled again turning 0 points into three or if we would of played poorer defense on first two shots they would of got 2 instead of three. After that a Butler player traveled on the way to the basket and kicked it out for a three point shot. I think that was the shot that sent the game into overtime. Essentially everything had to go right for Butler to tie the game and that was very much like the Packer game where everything ahd to go right for Seattle to pull that game out.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: muhoops1 on January 31, 2015, 11:13:37 PM
Did anyone watch UVA vs Duke?  crap happens.  This team is mediocre, should we really be shocked?
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: MU82 on February 01, 2015, 05:35:49 AM
Definitely our most embarrassing melt down to date.

I wasn't embarrassed yesterday.

Nor was I embarrassed by any earlier losses this season, nor by last season, nor by Buzz's lopsided NCAA tournament losses, nor by our FF loss to Kansas.

I wish we won yesterday, but I tend not to be embarrassed by things I have no control over.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: Irishdawg on February 01, 2015, 06:39:37 AM
You guys shouldn't be embarrassed.  Your team gave one heck of an effort and deserved to win for pretty much the entire game yesterday.  You were the tougher team.  Sometimes, that's basketball.  Butler played way better at Georgetown and lost by 1. 

Wojo's a really good coach, and not just as a recruiter.  Good coaches recognize when they can't just run their system based on personnel, and he did that.  He adjusts Marquette's defense coming out of timeouts so opponent's coaches can't draw up effective plays unless they successfully guess what defense he's going to run.  Those aren't rocket-science level things to do, but you'd be surprised just how many "good" coaches don't do those things.  If you guys hit even half of the bunnies that were missed with a clear look at the rim, coaching might not even come into this discussion.

Better days are ahead for you Marquette.  My guess is that Butler will continue to go through cycles of good and bad seasons based on the experience of their roster, but with the talent that's coming in for Marquette next year and likely for years after, that's how you can get sustained success.  Good luck until we meet again.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2015, 06:41:06 AM
To quote Charles Barkley in his early years, "I make $3 million dollars. I don't get embarassed."
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: mug644 on February 01, 2015, 12:20:50 PM
I wasn't embarrassed yesterday.

Nor was I embarrassed by any earlier losses this season, nor by last season, nor by Buzz's lopsided NCAA tournament losses, nor by our FF loss to Kansas.

I wish we won yesterday, but I tend not to be embarrassed by things I have no control over.

Good point, and I also tend to not get embarrassed by the performance of a team that I follow.

But, this conversation has me uncomfortably recalling that I took off my MU sweatshirt early in the second half of a game that MU was playing on April 5, 2003. I cannot deny that I was embarrassed that day.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 01, 2015, 12:51:24 PM
Good point, and I also tend to not get embarrassed by the performance of a team that I follow.

But, this conversation has me uncomfortably recalling that I took off my MU sweatshirt early in the second half of a game that MU was playing on April 5, 2003. I cannot deny that I was embarrassed that day.

That is an embarrassment by you.  Your school gets to it's first Final Four in almost 30 years and may never get to one again and you bail......that's sad.  We went out that night on bourbon street and drank heavily, like fans do when their team loses.  But we were damn proud to have been in the Final Four and what the team had to do to get there the previous two weeks.

Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: mug644 on February 01, 2015, 12:57:20 PM
That is an embarrassment by you.  Your school gets to it's first Final Four in almost 30 years and may never get to one again and you bail......that's sad.  We went out that night on bourbon street and drank heavily, like fans do when their team loses.  But we were damn proud to have been in the Final Four and what the team had to do to get there the previous two weeks.



Fair enough. I suppose I should've added that I was and remain as proud as you. It was a great run, and nothing could take it from the team or its fans. That said, it was an embarrassing performance; fortunately, I tend to not let such emotions linger for long, but I do recall that feeling.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: barfolomew on February 01, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588438

Caught a basement fire.   Missed the whole thing.    Late collapse?

So what happened with your basement?
Or is "caught a basement fire" a euphemism that I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: wildbill sb on February 01, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
So what happened with your basement?
Or is "caught a basement fire" a euphemism that I'm not aware of?


Could be wrong, but I believe 77's a firefighter.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: tower912 on February 01, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
So what happened with your basement?
Or is "caught a basement fire" a euphemism that I'm not aware of?


There was a basement fire in my district.   My engine company  was first on the scene and participated in the extinguishment and ensuing clean up of a basement fire caused by an old dryer.   This happened just as the game was starting.   Ergo, I missed the game.   
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 01, 2015, 02:58:37 PM
There was a basement fire in my district.   My engine company  was first on the scene and participated in the extinguishment and ensuing clean up of a basement fire caused by an old dryer.   This happened just as the game was starting.   Ergo, I missed the game.   
Your priorities seem a tad bit askew
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: tower912 on February 01, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Your priorities seem a tad bit askew

My priorities are fine.   It is the citizenry who don't realize how important MU games are.    Bastages.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: wadesworld on February 01, 2015, 04:57:53 PM
You guys shouldn't be embarrassed.  Your team gave one heck of an effort and deserved to win for pretty much the entire game yesterday.  You were the tougher team.  Sometimes, that's basketball.  Butler played way better at Georgetown and lost by 1. 

Wojo's a really good coach, and not just as a recruiter.  Good coaches recognize when they can't just run their system based on personnel, and he did that.  He adjusts Marquette's defense coming out of timeouts so opponent's coaches can't draw up effective plays unless they successfully guess what defense he's going to run.  Those aren't rocket-science level things to do, but you'd be surprised just how many "good" coaches don't do those things.  If you guys hit even half of the bunnies that were missed with a clear look at the rim, coaching might not even come into this discussion.

Better days are ahead for you Marquette.  My guess is that Butler will continue to go through cycles of good and bad seasons based on the experience of their roster, but with the talent that's coming in for Marquette next year and likely for years after, that's how you can get sustained success.  Good luck until we meet again.

Good post and thanks for stopping by.  You have a better understanding of where our program is than a number of posters on this board and you aren't even a fan of the program/team.  It's always nice to have a knowledgable fan of other programs come and give their thoughts on our program.  Hopefully your boys can represent the BE well in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: MU82 on February 02, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
You guys shouldn't be embarrassed.  Your team gave one heck of an effort and deserved to win for pretty much the entire game yesterday.  You were the tougher team.  Sometimes, that's basketball.  Butler played way better at Georgetown and lost by 1. 

Wojo's a really good coach, and not just as a recruiter.  Good coaches recognize when they can't just run their system based on personnel, and he did that.  He adjusts Marquette's defense coming out of timeouts so opponent's coaches can't draw up effective plays unless they successfully guess what defense he's going to run.  Those aren't rocket-science level things to do, but you'd be surprised just how many "good" coaches don't do those things.  If you guys hit even half of the bunnies that were missed with a clear look at the rim, coaching might not even come into this discussion.

Better days are ahead for you Marquette.  My guess is that Butler will continue to go through cycles of good and bad seasons based on the experience of their roster, but with the talent that's coming in for Marquette next year and likely for years after, that's how you can get sustained success.  Good luck until we meet again.

Damn you! I hate Notre Dame because that's what I'm supposed to do, but I just wanna hug you, you big-hearted, common-sense-speaking supportive S.O.B.!!!
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: wadesworld on February 02, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Damn you! I hate Notre Dame because that's what I'm supposed to do, but I just wanna hug you, you big-hearted, common-sense-speaking supportive S.O.B.!!!

Is he a ND fan?  I figured he was of Irish heritage but a Butler (Bull)dawg fan.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on February 02, 2015, 04:10:14 PM
There was a basement fire in my district.   My engine company  was first on the scene and participated in the extinguishment and ensuing clean up of a basement fire caused by an old dryer.   This happened just as the game was starting.   Ergo, I missed the game.   

Fellow firefighter here also, albeit a volunteer.  Father was a Chicago Fire Fighter.  Dryers and basement fires suck.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 02, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
How 'bout dumpster fires?
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: real chili 83 on February 02, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
Is he a ND fan?  I figured he was of Irish heritage but a Butler (Bull)dawg fan.

Let's not insult this gentleman and call him a Notre Dame fan!
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: tower912 on February 02, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
How 'bout dumpster fires?

Those are easy.   Stand back, lob water, turn it into a giant polluted spa.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: brewcity77 on February 03, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
My priorities are fine.   It is the citizenry who don't realize how important MU games are.    Bastages.

Always the truth. Couldn't wait to use their rickety dryer until after the game, could they?

Fellow firefighter here also, albeit a volunteer.  Father was a Chicago Fire Fighter.  Dryers and basement fires suck.

+1

The last 4 minutes of Butler was that basement fire where the truck company can't get you any ventilation and you lose the stairs. Just not remotely fun.
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: tower912 on February 03, 2015, 02:48:53 PM
In almost 25 years of fighting fire, the only helmet I have melted happened at a basement fire.   Old Midwestern basements with tiny windows, often glass block.    No place for the heat to vent, so you are walking down into the oven via the only exit route for the heat and smoke.    Then, when you hit the fire, you still have the problem of where all of the steam is going to go.   Actually, it isn't really a problem, you are just going to have to take the heat.    Because in most old basements, even if you take all of the windows, that still isn't sufficient exhaust portals.     Big fun.     Thankfully, the one that caused me to miss the Butler game was much smaller.   
Title: Re: Butler Box Score
Post by: brewcity77 on February 03, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
I'm on the truck now and we always scout basement exteriors to gameplan for ventilation. Between the glass block, bars on the windows, and awkward angles from sunken windows, it's a pain. We always plan to bring a box fan to suck out as much heat as we can. Even if it burns up the fan, anything to relieve the heat for the engine.

Stuff like that is why I trade off gamedays. The last one I worked was Creighton last New Year's. House full of Badger fans and we caught a 2-hour run in the middle of the game. I got back and they just loved watching me watch that awful game. Now the only places I watch Marquette are at home or at the BC.