MLB 2017 Season

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

When was the last time the Cubs and Sox were trade partners? I'm sure there's a more recent example, but the last one I can think of is Sosa.

[DegenerateDish]

Good on Theo & Hahn to avoid any meatball analysis of trading within the same city. They were ideal trade partners, filled needs for both teams.

[DegenerateDish]

When was the last time the Cubs and Sox were trade partners? I'm sure there's a more recent example, but the last one I can think of is Sosa.

Cotts/Aardsma, before that the infamous Garland/Karchner trade.

[MUBurrow]

Wowowow. Makes sense all around, but that's got to be about it for the Cubs rebuild, yes? The rest of the changes for this core will have to come from the checkbook - which is also one of the largest in the game, so probably no issues there. Not much left in the way of reinforcements left in the pipeline. Quintana's reasonable salary had to factor in on that score.

Bummer for the Crew. Quintana's top level stats haven't been great this year, but his peripherals and underlying numbers suggest he'll be fine, and his return to the mean (along with a switch to the NL) might mean a great second half for him. Fart noise.

[MerrittsMustache]

When was the last time the Cubs and Sox were trade partners? I'm sure there's a more recent example, but the last one I can think of is Sosa.

I thought it was Jon Garland for Matt Karchner in 1998. Turns out it was in 2006 - Neal Cotts to the Cubs for David Aardsma and Carlos Vasquez

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Hell, I never knew Garland was even in the Cubs organization at one point.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Hell, I never knew Garland was even in the Cubs organization at one point.

The Cubs took him with the 10th pick in 1997.

[Jockey]

Wow, Sox got a haul, love it, absolutely love it.

"Potential" haul.

Remember, not one of these 4 guys has ever even seen AA action yet. Lots of A ball stars never reach the Bigs.

[buckchuckler]

Nm, dish covered it

[DegenerateDish]

"Potential" haul.

Remember, not one of these 4 guys has ever even seen AA action yet. Lots of A ball stars never reach the Bigs.

It's always potential haul, but if you're rebuilding like they are, and you look at MLB's top prospect lists, it's a haul in that regard. All four prospects they got could all fail miserably for sure, but in the moment, they got a gigantic return today.

[Pakuni]

White Sox now have 5 of the top 28 prospects in baseball, and 8 of the top 70, per MLB's rankings.
And that doesn't include Jake Burger, who's killing it in his limited time in A ball.
Obviously prospects are only prospects, but Hahn has done a remarkable job with the rebuild so far. Gone from one of the worst systems in baseball to the best in seven months.

Now if he can only convince Washington to give up Robles or Fedde for Robertson ....

[Pakuni]

When was the last time the Cubs and Sox were trade partners? I'm sure there's a more recent example, but the last one I can think of is Sosa.

Jon Garland for Matt Karchner in '98.

[Jockey]

It's always potential haul, but if you're rebuilding like they are, and you look at MLB's top prospect lists, it's a haul in that regard. All four prospects they got could all fail miserably for sure, but in the moment, they got a gigantic return today.

I wasn't disagreeing with you, Dish. I think this is the best the Sox could do.

I was just giving a precautionary note. There is a huge difference between a top 10 prospect who is in A ball compared to a top 10 guy in AAA.

[DegenerateDish]

I wasn't disagreeing with you, Dish. I think this is the best the Sox could do.

I was just giving a precautionary note. There is a huge difference between a top 10 prospect who is in A ball compared to a top 10 guy in AAA.

Agreed, no argument there.

[DegenerateDish]

White Sox now have 5 of the top 28 prospects in baseball, and 8 of the top 70, per MLB's rankings.
And that doesn't include Jake Burger, who's killing it in his limited time in A ball.
Obviously prospects are only prospects, but Hahn has done a remarkable job with the rebuild so far. Gone from one of the worst systems in baseball to the best in seven months.

Now if he can only convince Washington to give up Robles or Fedde for Robertson ....

Also, tank rest of this second half, get a top 5 pick next year. Seth Beer train slowed down a bit, but next year's draft is supposed to be top loaded with talent. Bring on 2020/2021!

[🏀]

Great trade.

[buckchuckler]

Now if he can only convince Washington to give up Robles or Fedde for Robertson ....

That would be a coup.  I'd gladly take Soto or Kieboom...

[Jockey]

Brewers swing their own "big" deal. Get lefty Tyler Webb from Yanks.

It actually might be significant. Means they could move top pitching prospect Josh Hader into the rotation soon. He was only lefty in bullpen.

[cheebs09]

Brewers swing their own "big" deal. Get lefty Tyler Webb from Yanks.

It actually might be significant. Means they could move top pitching prospect Josh Hader into the rotation soon. He was only lefty in bullpen.

Hell of a golfer too. Looks like we gave up Cooper who was having a nice year, but blocked for the foreseeable future with Thames and Aguilar.

[mu03eng]

Hell of a golfer too. Looks like we gave up Cooper who was having a nice year, but blocked for the foreseeable future with Thames and Aguilar.

I heard his roommate got in trouble for night putting with the dean's daughter in college

[wadesworld]

Woo Hoo!!!!


Now the cubs have TWO aces with ERAs over 4.25 and WHIPs over 1.30

You're forgetting the X Factor here.  The Cubs have Bosio and the White Sox don't.

[jsglow]

Brewers swing their own "big" deal. Get lefty Tyler Webb from Yanks.

It actually might be significant. Means they could move top pitching prospect Josh Hader into the rotation soon. He was only lefty in bullpen.

I like it.  Hader to the rotation immediately.  Cooper was absolutely blocked although any Crew 1B player named Coop is hard to give up.

[jsglow]

Nelson, Davies, Garza, Suter, Hader.

Wait on Guerra a week and unfortunately need to wait on Anderson another month.  Tough but possible. Need Anderson back and effective by September.

[Pakuni]

That would be a coup.  I'd gladly take Soto or Kieboom...

Nice bonus about this deal is that it could create added pressure on Washington to address their one weakness, aka the bullpen. And the best closer on the market is none other than David Robertson.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I think Eloy Jimenez is the real deal.  If Cease doesn't make it as a starter he has the stuff to be a lights out closer.  Health and command are the main issues for him. 

As a Cubs fan you can't argue with Quintana's track record and his contract is outstanding, which provides a ton of value and flexibility.

I was initially stunned when I heard the news and was sad to see Eloy go but this may turn out as a win-win for both sides.