MLB 2017 Season

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Was at the game today. Lackey rebounded nicely.

Schwarber and Russell look like they have no chance up there right now. Schwarber worked 3-0 and 3-1 counts in his first two ABs and whiffed both times. Something is definitely off and there's little doubt he's lost confidence. At least Russell brings value on defense.

Maybe they give Schwarbs this homestand but if he doesn't turn it around you have to send him down for a bit.

[buckchuckler]

Was at the game today. Lackey rebounded nicely.

Schwarber and Russell look like they have no chance up there right now. Schwarber worked 3-0 and 3-1 counts in his first two ABs and whiffed both times. Something is definitely off and there's little doubt he's lost confidence. At least Russell brings value on defense.

Maybe they give Schwarbs this homestand but if he doesn't turn it around you have to send him down for a bit.

Maybe he just isn't that much more than a 3 outcome player.  Right now, for his career, he is K-ing in about 29% of his PA, BB-ing in 13% and HR-ing in 5%.

Jack Cust was at 32%, 17%, 4%
Adam Dunn was 29%, 16%, 6%
Mark Reynolds is 31%, 11% 5%

The real Babe, for reference was at 13%, 19%,7%

Schwarber still has small sample size on his side clearly, and he isn't a .170 hitter, but maybe he is a 3 outcome guy that will be a .230-.240 hitter.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Maybe he just isn't that much more than a 3 outcome player.  Right now, for his career, he is K-ing in about 29% of his PA, BB-ing in 13% and HR-ing in 5%.

Jack Cust was at 32%, 17%, 4%
Adam Dunn was 29%, 16%, 6%
Mark Reynolds is 31%, 11% 5%

The real Babe, for reference was at 13%, 19%,7%

Schwarber still has small sample size on his side clearly, and he isn't a .170 hitter, but maybe he is a 3 outcome guy that will be a .230-.240 hitter.

It's fine if he's a 3 outcome guy if it comes with an 800+ OPS since he doesn't give you anything defensively.

[jsglow]

Zach Davies is pretty much horrendous.  Nelson has taken a step forward through the first 10 starts this year, but for a guy who was untouchable when the Brewers were buyers a few years ago he's certainly not what the Brewers hoped for.  Chase has been good this year.  But Jimmie and Chase are 28 and 29 years old, respectively.  I know we've started out well, but I'd be shocked if the Brewers won more than 78 games this year and were in the Playoffs within the next 3 years.  I highly doubt they are in the rotation when the Brewers make the Playoffs next.

'Brewers starter Zach Davies was trending in the right direction coming in, having gone 7-1 with a 3.67 earned-run average over his previous 10 starts. His seven victories since April 20 were tied for the most in the major leagues with Arizona's Zack Greinke, Boston's Chris Sale and St. Louis' Adam Wainwright.'

'Milwaukee starting pitchers entered the day with a collective 9-4 record and 2.63 ERA over the previous 20 games. Opponents were batting just .230 with 101 strikeouts, and the rotation had also turned in 10 quality starts.'

You want to revise and extend your remarks wades? 

Now the bullpen, that's another story. 

[wadesworld]

'Brewers starter Zach Davies was trending in the right direction coming in, having gone 7-1 with a 3.67 earned-run average over his previous 10 starts. His seven victories since April 20 were tied for the most in the major leagues with Arizona's Zack Greinke, Boston's Chris Sale and St. Louis' Adam Wainwright.'

'Milwaukee starting pitchers entered the day with a collective 9-4 record and 2.63 ERA over the previous 20 games. Opponents were batting just .230 with 101 strikeouts, and the rotation had also turned in 10 quality starts.'

You want to revise and extend your remarks wades? 

Now the bullpen, that's another story. 

All that work over the last 10 games just to get his ERA down to 4.91. That's pretty awful. Thankfully he has had some incredible run support.

I would put the over/under on current starters still being starters the next time the Brewers make the Playoffs at 1.5 and I would take the under.

[jsglow]

All that work over the last 10 games just to get his ERA down to 4.91. That's pretty awful. Thankfully he has had some incredible run support.

I would put the over/under on current starters still being starters the next time the Brewers make the Playoffs at 1.5 and I would take the under.

In 60 days you just might regret that prediction. Look, I'm not suggesting they 'will' but they are not all that far off from the conversation being they 'might'. The longer the Flubs play like the Flubs......

Personally, I think this is a big 2 weeks for the Crew. Some opponents they need to play .600 ball against.

[Jockey]

All that work over the last 10 games just to get his ERA down to 4.91. That's pretty awful. Thankfully he has had some incredible run support.

I would put the over/under on current starters still being starters the next time the Brewers make the Playoffs at 1.5 and I would take the under.

If they make the playoffs in three years (which is the plan). I put the over/under at 3.5

[#UnleashSean]

In 60 days you just might regret that prediction. Look, I'm not suggesting they 'will' but they are not all that far off from the conversation being they 'might'. The longer the Flubs play like the Flubs......

Personally, I think this is a big 2 weeks for the Crew. Some opponents they need to play .600 ball against.

By the all star break the cards and cubs will be on top. The Brewers will be out of the picture. Just like every year

[buckchuckler]

The NL looks pretty terrible overall.  1 team over .500 in the East, 1 team over .500 in the Central.  3 really good teams in the West (all of which will likely make the playoffs).  A mediocre team will be able to win the Central.   

Every team in the AL except the A's is within 4 games of a Wild Card spot at this point. 

[reinko]

By the all star break the cards and cubs will be on top. The Brewers will be out of the picture. Just like every year

What are the stakes?

[MUBurrow]

By the all star break the cards and cubs will be on top. The Brewers will be out of the picture. Just like every year

I mean, I'm a Brewers fan who thinks they'll end up double digit games back in both the wildcard and the division by the end of the year, but to say that the Brewers out of contention with the Cubs/Cards the only contenders at the break happens every year just betrays an ignorance of the NL Central over the past 10 years.

[GGGG]

And there really aren't that many Brewer fans who have grand allusion of winning the division.  Most of us are just happy to see progress.  You know...like the Cubs fans saw just a couple years ago.

[MU82]

The Brewers will be out of the picture. Just like every year

People said the same about the Cubs in 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015 and 2016.

It was right for awhile - hell, in their case, they were right for 100+ years - but it finally wasn't right last season.

Nothing stays the same in sports. Not even the Cubs losing. (Or the Cavs, for that matter.)

The Brewers will have their day eventually. And if getting to the WS is "having their day," they did that in 1982. And if getting to the postseason is "having their day," they've done that before, too.

[buckchuckler]

The most far fetched thing may be the belief that the Cards will be in contention.  They really seem like a bad team.  They are five under .500 (same record as the tanking White Sox)and only have winning get records against teams under .500.

[buckchuckler]

People said the same about the Cubs in 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015 and 2016.

It was right for awhile - hell, in their case, they were right for 100+ years - but it finally wasn't right last season.

Nothing stays the same in sports. Not even the Cubs losing. (Or the Cavs, for that matter.)

The Brewers will have their day eventually. And if getting to the WS is "having their day," they did that in 1982. And if getting to the postseason is "having their day," they've done that before, too.

Unleash has shown himself to be baseball illiterate before.  Nothing to even note really.

[🏀]

The most far fetched thing may be the belief that the Cards will be in contention.  They really seem like a bad team.  They are five under .500 (same record as the tanking White Sox)and only have winning get records against teams under .500.

Peter Gammons described STL the best, it's like they are starting 7 second basemen everyday.

[wadesworld]

By the all star break the cards and cubs will be on top. The Brewers will be out of the picture. Just like every year

The Cubs are on top every year?  Now that is classic.

[jsglow]

And there really aren't that many Brewer fans who have grand allusion of winning the division.  Most of us are just happy to see progress.  You know...like the Cubs fans saw just a couple years ago.

Yep.

[buckchuckler]

The Cubs are on top every year?  Now that is classic.

When you are a fan since 2016...

[#UnleashSean]

I mean, I'm a Brewers fan who thinks they'll end up double digit games back in both the wildcard and the division by the end of the year, but to say that the Brewers out of contention with the Cubs/Cards the only contenders at the break happens every year just betrays an ignorance of the NL Central over the past 10 years.

Since 2000 only 3 years have not had the cubs or cardinals in 1st. But k.

[buckchuckler]

Since 2000 only 3 years have not had the cubs or cardinals in 1st. But k.

Doesn't seem correct...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_division_winners

Cubs have won it 4 times since 1990.  Clearly they are in it every year. 

[wadesworld]

Doesn't seem correct...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_division_winners

Cubs have won it 4 times since 1990.  Clearly they are in it every year.

Lol. It's what Chicago sports fans do. "Hey, over the last 3 years the Cavs and the Bulls have combined to be the only two teams in the division to finish on top!"

[reinko]

Since 2000 only 3 years have not had the cubs or cardinals in 1stt. But k.

I'm waiting for the stakes for your claim the Cards and Cubs will be above the Brewers, who will be out of it by the ASG.

Name them

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Doesn't seem correct...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_division_winners

Cubs have won it 4 times since 1990.  Clearly they are in it every year.

It may not "seem" correct but it absolutely is.  There have been 3 instances since 200 when a team other than the Cubs or Cardinals won the NL Central.  The Astros won in '01, The Brewers in '11 and the Reds in '12.

[GGGG]

It may not "seem" correct but it absolutely is.  There have been 3 instances since 200 when a team other than the Cubs or Cardinals won the NL Central.  The Astros won in '01, The Brewers in '11 and the Reds in '12.

Reds also won in 2010.