Oso planning to go pro
Many of the same people who would argue against this argue for saving "one life" with anti-abortion laws, saving "one life" with xenophobic and arbitrary bans of Muslims from other countries, saving "one life" with most of the ridiculous TSA rules for airlines, etc.All life is precious ... but the ones saved that have nothing to do with guns seem to be more precious somehow.Having said that, I agree with glow that sometimes there are no easy solutions. And, in some cases, no solutions at all, really. It's easy for us to toss our ideas out here on an anonymous forum, but to actually enact ideas that will serve the greater good ... much more difficult, if not impossible.
82 and I are agreeing here. From what the governor said, he was denied a Texas gun permit.Look guys. Take the defacto default political positions out of it for just a moment.Vegas? Bump stocks, easy.Guy from Uzbekistan? I know some want 'open' borders but c'mon. Easy.Sutherland Springs? I honestly don't know.Look, it's not a total solution but I really believe that if everyone just backed off a bit in their daily discourse with other people we'd make a dent, even a little one. Maybe then the 1 in 1,000,000 creep who simply can't let anything go, I mean anything, is slightly less inclined to act in the ultimate extreme. It happens here on Scoop all the freakin' time. Never give an inch. Escalate. Fight to the last breath. And then personally attack someone with a different viewpoint. I personally hate that world.For grins I was reading the 'Best MU bars' thread from 2007 last night. It was fun. It was lively. Everyone was having a good time. I miss those days.Now watch. Someone will personally attack me for this position or statement. And my response will simply be to turn off my computer and end my participation in a potentially productive conversation. And again we accomplish nothing. It really makes me sad.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny. Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.
He was denied a permit but he was still able to legally purchase weapons. How does that make any sense whatsoever?
I don't disagree with your points. But do something. If if that doesn't work, try something else. The status quo clearly isn't working.
Frankly, our ideas don't matter. Our way of life is shaped by thinktanks around the country whose philosophies are shaped by political parties & platforms and then sold to their respective halves as ideals, morals and values.The only way anything changes in the country is when politics are placed aside and people demand that that philosophies be shaped ideals, morals and values.Unfortunately, the branding of our political parties has become so entwined into society over the past 50 or so years that asking someone to place their political leanings aside would be like asking them to give up their individuality.This is not a Democrat or Republican failure. Democrats and Republicans are the failures.
The only way anything changes in the country is when politics are placed aside and people demand that that philosophies be shaped ideals, morals and values.
That's exactly the thing that frustrates me most. Try something. You don't need to have the perfect answer to start.
You probably don't know this, but making mental health care easily accessible and affordable offers a solution that's unrelated to the problem.If you did know, well then trying to capitalize on a tragedy by pushing an unrelated healthcare agenda makes the problem worse.
5 dead 24 wounded. What exactly is the point of that post? Also is nobody going to address the fact that he just compared people who have abortions to those that have caused mass shootings?
Way too early, all we know is the guy was a staunch atheist and was discharged from the service after being court martialed. He was DENIED a gun permit. Again, these laws are already in place and he got it anyway. Thankfully the locals helped to chase him off by firing on him before he took his own life after a chase. Good for them.Much more information will come out in time.At some point we have to treat each other better. Some crazy socialist attacks Rand Paul while he mows his lawn. Another one tries to kill a bunch of GOP Congressmen at a softball game. We have this crazy dude, the Vegas crazy dude, the Ft. Hood crazy dude, last week's truck driver in NYC, the list goes on.
I understand your frustration and even if we only allowed 6 shot revolvers, people will still find a way to kill. Timothy McVeigh is a prime example.
82 and I are agreeing here. From what the governor said, he was denied a Texas gun permit.Look guys. Take the defacto default political positions out of it for just a moment.Vegas? Bump stocks, easy.Guy from Uzbekistan? I know some want 'open' borders but c'mon. Easy.Sutherland Springs? I honestly don't know.
So we could save thousands of lives - but let's not even try cuz some people will still get killed.Wow.