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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on January 28, 2015, 05:46:04 PM
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Pirates. Arrrrrrrh!
Duane for SOTG.
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Butler?
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Butler?
Forget it, he's rolling.
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cocktail much?
?-(
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Lofl!!!!! Butler put the bottle down till after the game or until Juan shoots a three.
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Have you had Juan or two?
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Looking past Seton Hall eh?
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Well this game thread couldn't be any worse karma lol
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Yeah this is a terrible start
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http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php
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Forget it, he's rolling.
MU will not quit.
Did the Americans quit when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?!
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Sweet move by DeWil
And then the Chucker! Keep chuckin Matt!
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you must still be on happy hour Real. go MU, there's a 3!
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Nice pass Luke!!!
Derrick getting open.
SMH there 23% shooter is already 2-2.
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Well, these 3s are gonna piss me off
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What the ef are you guys talking about. Arrrrrh.
Long day at work. Just got home. Dunks, give me an update!
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JJJ with a nice one minute stint...misses a 2 footer in transition. BENCH. Awesome way to reinforce confidence in a player.
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tied at 18 10 minutes left
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Steve rockin' Lazar's spot
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JJJ with a nice one minute stint...misses a 2 footer in transition. BENCH. Awesome way to reinforce confidence in a player.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/277/1/a/a_broken_record_5000_by_yotrailmix-d303uk7.jpg)
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Place is empty creighton had much more
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JJJ with a nice one minute stint...misses a 2 footer in transition. BENCH. Awesome way to reinforce confidence in a player.
Well maybe he should not fade away and brick a 2 footer in transition. Go up strong. Pretty basic
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Student section is dead, prob not getting late tonight
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Well maybe he should not fade away and brick a 2 footer in transition. Go up strong. Pretty basic
Jajuan Johnson goes soft in missing a layup & quickly gets pulled. Wojo says something to him, seemingly wanting the soph. to be assertive.
-Matt Velazquez
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Silly that every playa on Seton Hall has the same last name, hey?
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Chucker gonna chuck.
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^ Applies to Gibbs and Sina too.
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Steve is playing like a beast . But.... Can we make a layup,please.
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Steve is playing like a beast . But.... Can we make a layup,please.
+1
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So it isn't about practice, and it isn't about game production, JJJ should just be unleashed, results be damned.
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Chucker gonna chuck.
Yep, 75% from 3.
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Steve is playing like a beast . But.... Can we make a layup,please.
Same story the last two years
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So it isn't about practice, and it isn't about game production, JJJ should just be unleashed, results be damned.
to be fair he was pulled for a biffed layup.
Juan has had about 3 worse ones and Derrick had one where it looked like he was playing dodgeball.
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Who is the team behind seton hall's bench?
Wearing black and red warm-ups
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Who is the team behind seton hall's bench?
Wearing black and red warm-ups
Half time game?
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entire crowd looks awful
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So.......beverage?
Lipton diet citrus green tea here.
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So many open seats on the lower level. Where is the support?
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Luke with one field goal attempt, made it
Juan, Duane and Cohen 1 for 8 from three. Carlino 3 for 4
JJJ played like 30 seconds and yanked for that one miss. Got to be in doghouse, others don't get pulled that quick otherwise Juan be on bench many times.
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entire crowd looks awful
Looks like a alcorn st game, zero energy
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Luke with one field goal attempt, made it
Juan, Duane and Cohen 1 for 8 from three. Carlino 3 for 4
JJJ played like 30 seconds and yanked for that one miss. Got to be in doghouse, others don't get pulled that quick otherwise Juan be on bench many times.
JJJ doesn't get pulled because of 1 missed shot. He gets pulled because he is our worst player and isn't ready to be on the court. He can't shoot the ball, but he doesn't drive to the hoop (and when he does he's scared of contact), and he doesn't defend. He's just not ready to contribute to the team really in any way.
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JJJ with a nice one minute stint...misses a 2 footer in transition. BENCH. Awesome way to reinforce confidence in a player.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/560591956619694082
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I see lots of empty lower seats. Is there a polka band in town?
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So many open seats on the lower level. Where is the support?
Wife and kids are here, def harder to get borderline friends/fans to come with me to games this year, but I'm here supporting
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Nets should retire from this board.
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That's Nets.
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Nantucket Nectar. Half lemonade, half iced tea.
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That's Nets.
3rd times the charm
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Nantucket Nectar. Half lemonade, half iced tea.
Isn't that an "Arnold Palmer"?
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Were about to get back handed now
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Get the whole team off the court and play with 3 guys. This is pathetic
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Get the whole team off the court and play with 3 guys. This is pathetic
Hell just play the twins and carrawell
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Yes. Bad start, real bad. Turnovers and zone not working against the three
Luke traveled and Wojo sat him down fast.
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That's no way to boost confidence.
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Give the ball to Carlino and get out of his way.
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Sorry Wojo--you need to lose the zone. Not getting the job done with it. Two thirds of the way through the season should show you that.
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That make everything. We can't even make lay ups.
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Sorry Wojo--you need to lose the zone. Not getting the job done with it. Two thirds of the way through the season should show you that.
Well, they can't play man, either, so what is left.
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Sorry Wojo--you need to lose the zone. Not getting the job done with it. Two thirds of the way through the season should show you that.
Send him an email and resume
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Sorry Wojo--you need to lose the zone. Not getting the job done with it. Two thirds of the way through the season should show you that.
We tried man and sucked. What do you suggest?
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Anderson is a joke. Just play for the future. So many naive posters thinking he was anything. Wow.
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17 to 2 run in four minutes.
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Well, at least JJJ is back in the game. First time all year that it feels like the team isn't competing.
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Anderson is a joke. Just play for the future. So many naive posters thinking he was anything. Wow.
You surprised?! Old news bud
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Wow. Effin ugly.
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Whatever Wojo told them at halftime...
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Looking like a bunch of doo doo heads. Might be time to unleash the twins.
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Juan playing like a freshmen tonight
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Yeah lose the zone that is the reason we're one of the best defensive teams in the BE. Makes sense. The one thing we do well we should stop doing it. Some real geniuses in here.
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Anytime we want to play defense is ok with me.
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Anderson is a joke. Just play for the future. So many naive posters thinking he was anything. Wow.
Yeah, all I see is Juan love on this board. ::)
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We tried man and sucked. What do you suggest?
Time to start getting ready for next year, we aren't ready for this year. BTW, one sequence doesn't mean we sucked. 19 games in playing mostly zone and 10-9 should suggest something.
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brutal display of basketball, someone has to step up now
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So glad I'm on the west coast and still at work. Makes it easy to miss all these ugly games. Man, next season can't get here soon enough.
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Send him an email and resume
Sounds like you are the wordsmith, so please, you do it.
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Let's hope nobody gets hurt during the upcoming attempt at a comeback.
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Time to start getting ready for next year, we aren't ready for this year. BTW, one sequence doesn't mean we sucked. 19 games in playing mostly zone and 10-9 should suggest something.
Ok , with the options we have what would change? Play JJJ who does not deserve it? Play more Cohen or walk-ons? It is what it is.
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At least Steve kept firing....and getting blocked.
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this is just getting funny
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Warm up the bus.
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The dagger for the season nit chances slashed a disgraceful year.
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Time to start getting ready for next year, we aren't ready for this year. BTW, one sequence doesn't mean we sucked. 19 games in playing mostly zone and 10-9 should suggest something.
First, you didn't answer the question, just provided a meaningless platitude. Second, we played man for several games to start the season, not just a sequence. It was a disaster. Third, until tonight we have been one of the best defensive teams in conference, because of the zone.
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Cohen at least doing something on offense. Seton Hall can't miss.
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The dagger for the season nit chances slashed a disgraceful year.
you quite obviously have mental instability issues.
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lol JJJ
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here's an idea, face guard gibbs! We used to use Jimmy Butler to face guard Marshon Brooks when we'd play providence, kemba against uconn no reason it wouldn't have worked here.
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you quite obviously have mental instability issues.
Go root for Tulane if you are ok with a trash product
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Hello, guard Gibbs.......think he is enfuego
JJJ had a defensive deficiency of epic nature
Keep Luke on bench don't want him hurt
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On the plus side, interesting (and pretty shocking) we really haven't had a blow out like this all year as far as I can remember.
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I think I'm coming around to the line of thinking that JjJ just isn't cut out for major college Hoops. I don't want to think it but I haven't seen much out of him other than force things when he gets in. Not that anyone else is doing much other than watching the Hall draon shot after shot but JjJ is so slow on D.
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Captain AND Saga. That kinda night.
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This game is over. Let the young guys play the rest of the way (except for rest breaks) and see what happens.
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Took me 2 stops to find a joint that carries FS2. Went with the jumbo Bud Light special. Quantity over quality, just like my college days!
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Warm up the bus.
...and drop them off on the north side, cause making them walk 10 blocks isn't enough.
lol JJJ
Damn...like, I think he has the most talent on the team. But how far are we from getting anything out of that when he doesn't even look like he's played basketball before?
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Can we go back to talking about the Twins? And by Twins I mean the baseball team...
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The twins may be on the court sooner rather than later
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Took me 2 stops to find a joint that carries FS2. Went with the jumbo Bud Light special. Quantity over quality, just like my college days!
Wow. You actually sought out a bar to watch this slop. I commend you—you are a true fan.
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What kind of game is it? Well Steve Taylor is fighting to be top scorer with Carlino. D. Wilson 1 of 10. The rest of the team is sleeping?
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...and drop them off on the north side, cause making them walk 10 blocks isn't enough.
Damn...like, I think he has the most talent on the team. But how far are we from getting anything out of that when he doesn't even look like he's played basketball before?
If JJJ is MU's most talented player....this team is in much worse shape than I thought.
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Derrick had 4 pts, 3 assists, and 6 boards in the first 10 minutes. Not so much the last 22 minutes.
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What kind of game is it? Well Steve Taylor is fighting to be top scorer with Carlino. D. Wilson 1 of 10. The rest of the team is sleeping?
Duane had some good looks...just ice cold.
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If JJJ is MU's most talented player....this team is in much worse shape than I thought.
Yup. Has a few measurables that are nice, and that is it. No basketball skill at all.
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Debacle.
Glad I didn't pay for FS2.
I grew up a Cubs fan, so "wait until next year" is an easy concept for me.
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Derrick had 4 pts, 3 assists, and 6 boards in the first 10 minutes. Not so much the last 22 minutes.
He was out of the game for a lot of the early 2nd half. People asked for him to sit, we're seeing what happens. Go down nearly 30, bring him back in and it's down to 15.
But no, we need more JJJ missed bunnies!
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Brutal call
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No point in beating up on JJJ. Until now, no one has played well.
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Something I've noticed.
We used to get a lot more calls when we were ranked. No doubt about it.
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Something I've noticed.
We used to get a lot more calls when we were ranked. No doubt about it.
Noticed that to.
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At least MU is finally playing with energy. Refs aren't helping.
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Wow. You actually sought out a bar to watch this slop. I commend you—you are a true fan.
Out of town for work and I'm not staying in the most exciting of burgs. Only 1 strip joint and I got the ban hammer after a particularly energetic table dance a few months ago.
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Cut it to 10 with 5 left and it's doable.
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Ass kickin', hey?
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Sounds like you are the wordsmith, so please, you do it.
Very sensitive tonight.
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Holy sh.. we got a call, SANDY!
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Probably the worst 5 minute stretch this team has played all season (Excluding Omaha). Still a chance.
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Down to 12. Call one or two push-offs on SH and this could get interesting.
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Speaking of push-offs....friggin' Gibbs.
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Can someone hit Gibbs in the ball and deflate him a bit?
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duane has the ball in his hands on the steal... gets drilled and no foul?
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So they can delay the game, yell at Duane, and don't line up for free throws. Instead of issuing a T the refs further delay the game by granting them a wasteful review.
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Maybe we can pull a Seahawks here?
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Carlino hits that and this gets really fun.
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As they say, just wait until next year ... 'cause this is more than a rebuilding year. This is a demolition year before the rebuild.
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If JJJ is MU's most talented player....this team is in much worse shape than I thought.
JJJ is our ninth best player...
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Holy cow, MU can't buy a call.
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Duane is 1 for 10. JJJ is 0 for 4. Ouch
MU had chances to get to single digits, so close
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BS call, his hand was on the ball
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And the bad calls just go on and on. Flagrant 1? Oy.
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Tough call
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Why can't we even get a reasonable call?
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Del Gado is a punk
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Not that it matters/changed the game in any way, but holy eff these refs are terrible. That flagrant foul is the worst call I've seen in basketball in a long, long time. Take the skirts off.
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Can't catch the final break we need. Brutal call on the Chief
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Seton Hall brought their own refs with them.
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agreed on del gado
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That flagrant on Cohen was the worst call I've seen all season.
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Rotten call.
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If we can't cut into this and there's another brutal call I would not at all mind seeing Wojo take a T.
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
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Remember bad refs did not impact the outcome of the game. We are just frustrated so time to step back and move on.
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
Didn't realize only point guards play the game of basketball.
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Why don't we run anymore? We can't win playing a half court game.
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
post another bad thing so he can get another and-1
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Can't say " and one" when it is Derrick
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
We have quite a few threads on this issue.
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Can't say " and one" when it is Derrick
This made me laugh lol
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Give the Hall credit. They have some freshmen that can play and will be tough for few years.
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
actually his stat line does look pretty good tonight
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I must not know anything about basketball.
Agreed.
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Lets start fouling
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4-6 , 8 rebounds 7 assists
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Same story different game. Seton Hall hit some deep contested 3's. They made their FT's. They got some hor$ecrap calls to go their way. And we lost.
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Juan only makes 3's when they don't matter I guess.
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Why does it seem like everyone loves Derrick Wilson? Announcers. Current coaches. Former coaches. As far as I can tell, he is the starting point guard of the worst two-year stretch in the last 30+ years of the program. I must not know anything about basketball.
An odd time to complain about Derrick. Of all the players you could pick out to complain about, you pick out the guy who shot 4-6, had 10 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, and 2 steals.
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If Juans two threes at the end of the game don't say it all I don't know what does.
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Someone convince Juan it's always garbage time, he actually makes shots then.
Why don't we run anymore? We can't win playing a half court game.
Cause we have like three players in six bodies. To run much more than we did we'd have to have at least eight players in nine bodies.
Give the Hall credit. They have some freshmen that can play and will be tough for few years.
They're being rewarded for keeping faith with Willard. We need some of that magic. Hope Wojo's got some good ideas for the three-plus spots still open.
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An odd time to complain about Derrick. Of all the players you could pick out to complain about, you pick out the guy who shot 4-6, had 10 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, and 2 steals.
Did they win tonight? Have they won with any any regularity in the last two seasons with the great Derrick running the show?
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Did they win tonight? Have they won with any any regularity in the last two seasons with the great Derrick running the show?
Thank you for making my exact point. I will take 10, 8, 7, and 2 from my point guard 100% of the time. I would be thrilled with that from any point guard at any level. Scoring enough to keep the defense honest, distributing the ball and getting the offense flowing, playing good defense, and rebounding the basketball at a really high clip for a guard. And we didn't win. Which means...there's more wrong with the team than the point guard?! You don't say!
I suppose the only difference between this year's team and the 2003 Final Four team is that Travis Diener was the point guard then and now we have Derrick Wilson. Forget that we had one of the greatest players ever to play the game of basketball in 2003 accompanied with one of the greatest shooters to ever play the game of basketball as well as one of the best big men to ever play the game of basketball at Marquette, the only difference is the point guards. If Diener could play this season, we'd be a lock for the Final Four, no doubt.
Same story with Michigan State from this year compared to 2010-2011. Korie Lucious obviously was the reason MSU went to the Final Four since he is so much better than Travis Trice, hence why Korie's team went to the Final Four while Trice is leading his team to a 13-7 record so far this season. Nobody else on the teams matter, just the point guards.
Think before you post next time. Please.
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Thank you for making my exact point. I will take 10, 8, 7, and 2 from my point guard 100% of the time. I would be thrilled with that from any point guard at any level. Scoring enough to keep the defense honest, distributing the ball and getting the offense flowing, playing good defense, and rebounding the basketball at a really high clip for a guard. And we didn't win. Which means...there's more wrong with the team than the point guard?! You don't say!
I suppose the only difference between this year's team and the 2003 Final Four team is that Travis Diener was the point guard then and now we have Derrick Wilson. Forget that we had one of the greatest players ever to play the game of basketball in 2003 accompanied with one of the greatest shooters to ever play the game of basketball as well as one of the best big men to ever play the game of basketball at Marquette, the only difference is the point guards. If Diener could play this season, we'd be a lock for the Final Four, no doubt.
Same story with Michigan State from this year compared to 2010-2011. Korie Lucious obviously was the reason MSU went to the Final Four since he is so much better than Travis Trice, hence why Korie's team went to the Final Four while Trice is leading his team to a 13-7 record so far this season. Nobody else on the teams matter, just the point guards.
Think before you post next time. Please.
I just think he is terrible. You don't have to get all holier than thou, captain.
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Del Gado is a punk
He was quite the beeotch last night, wasn't he?
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I just think he is terrible. You don't have to get all holier than thou, captain.
So then you should've said that. Bringing up the team's record means absolutely nothing towards whether Derrick is the best basketball player in the world or the worst basketball player in the world. There are 5 players on the court for each team in a basketball game. While Derrick is far from a world beater, he is also not the single reason that we have had 2 down years in a row.
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So then you should've said that. Bringing up the team's record means absolutely nothing towards whether Derrick is the best basketball player in the world or the worst basketball player in the world. There are 5 players on the court for each team in a basketball game. While Derrick is far from a world beater, he is also not the single reason that we have had 2 down years in a row.
Well, his head coach last season said he was the reason we were playing 4 on 5. Pretty sure that affects the other 4 guys on the court. Also pretty sure having a guard who hasn't made a midrange jump shot all season isn't exactly the formula for winning. Not to mention 47% FT shooting. I do appreciate Derrick's ability to convert layups at a 46.6% clip this season, as well as his improved 3 point shooting.
I wonder if we will be better next year? We'll lose our leading scorer in Carlino, and essentially hope to replace his point production with a 5-star freshman. Hmm.