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Author Topic: Some random observations on Notre Dame game  (Read 8760 times)

Aughnanure

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2013, 11:32:08 PM »
If DG doesn't pick up two stupid fouls in the first, no one is talking about the refs.

And who called those stupid fouls?
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2013, 11:33:06 PM »
And who called those stupid fouls?


The refs...because they were doing their job.  Both were well deserved.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2013, 11:33:23 PM »
Damn right Steve Taylor should play more.

I was watching this game without volume and wondered if Taylor got hurt or something. I usually defend Buzz's subbing and I usually try to get Scoopers to keep things in perspective when it comes to Taylor (who ISN'T the next Mo Lucas). However, I, too, wondered where he was tonight and why Anderson was getting so much PT. Anderson lost Connaughton several times, so it's not as if he was D-ing up wonderfully.
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2013, 11:33:33 PM »
And who called those stupid fouls?

The stupid, obvious fouls made by DG? They were correctly called by the officiating crew.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2013, 11:33:51 PM »
And who called those stupid fouls?

Holy crap, dude. You serious with this stuff?

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2013, 11:34:59 PM »

The refs...because they were doing their job.  Both were well deserved.

Agreed there, they were both obvious fouls.  Otule's second however was not a foul.  ( I forget what his first was).

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2013, 11:35:42 PM »
Which Scooper got tossed at the game by Driscoll?   ;D

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2013, 11:35:57 PM »
Why didn't the second coming of Maurice Lucas play in the second half?

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2013, 11:36:31 PM »
Couple benefited MU...couple benefited ND....pretty much evened out at the end.

Please. What unfair calls benefited MU? ND got away pushing players inside all night and we got called with every physical play inside...not to mention phantom calls that got them back in the game in 1st half. There was a clear difference in what got called on the inside depending on what color jersey was in the lane.

Want to know why we didn't get inside in the 2nd half when it seemed like we needed to? The answer was clear.
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2013, 11:36:38 PM »
Which Scooper got tossed at the game by Driscoll?   ;D

Only keefe could afford tickets like that, just ask him

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2013, 11:37:15 PM »
Holy crap, dude. You serious with this stuff?

You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2013, 11:37:51 PM »
Only keefe could afford tickets like that, just ask him

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2013, 11:37:57 PM »
It's so simple: GUARD THE THREE. some might say it's easier said than done, but honestly, it's not. Connaughtan is never going to shoot inside the arc. Stay put for Christ sake. It's not rocket science. They weren't going to beat you inside the arc.  It's beyond infuriating.  We may be a 5 seed now, but luckily it doesn't really matter.

Very fundamental mistakes too. Right after Jamil's three to make it 62-57, ND sets a screen at the top of the key and Counaughton flares to the right wing and Juan goes under the screen. Why would he do that? Why was Juan even covering him in the first place? Just bad all around..I expected more from Buzz tonight. He even said last night when they interviewed him the Counaughton was going to be one of their focuses.

Some of his threes were due to a lack of boxing out and not getting the defensive rebound though. Those are the real killers.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2013, 11:38:18 PM »
Why didn't the second coming of Maurice Lucas play in the second half?

Maurice Lucas? Really?

Come on...aren't you giving Maurice too much credit with that comparison?

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2013, 11:39:06 PM »
You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!


Yeah, you can't plow over a guy guarding you.  Both refs called it immediately and the announcers agreed with it.

That's enough of this nonsense.  I need to get to bed.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2013, 11:41:44 PM »
You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!

Not even a question. Gonna be called every time.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2013, 11:43:18 PM »

Yeah, you can't plow over a guy guarding you.  Both refs called it immediately and the announcers agreed with it.

That's enough of this nonsense.  I need to get to bed.

Don't bring the announcers into this. He put his butt out and Cooley fell on the floor "like" he got plowed. But he didn't. He's just skinny and weak and the refs weren't letting Davante use his weight and size to dominate - which is fair.  I never really even understood what happened w/ his 3rd foul that half? We were on offense and suddenly they just called something on him.

Be consistent refs. Which they never are and they should not get away with it as much as we let them.
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2013, 11:45:59 PM »
Taylor needs to play more. Take some mins from Lockett and Mayo and go big if you have to. He would have helped on the glass in the second half.

On the refs: You can't look at a foul count to judge consistency. It was called even, foul wise. But what constituted a foul changed in the second half, with about 8 minutes left. The game had a great flow, and the refs took over with three fouls in 20 seconds. That crap drives me nuts. It's tough to adjust to them 30+ minutes into the game.

Either let them play rugby, or call it tight. Going back and forth is a joke, and kills the game.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2013, 11:47:04 PM »
Taylor needs to play more. Take some mins from Lockett and Mayo and go big if you have to. He would have helped on the glass in the second half.

On the refs: You can't look at a foul count to judge consistency. It was called even, foul wise. But what constituted a foul changed in the second half, with about 8 minutes left. The game had a great flow, and the refs took over with three fouls in 20 seconds. That crap drives me nuts. It's tough to adjust to them 30+ minutes into the game.

Either let them play rugby, or call it tight. Going back and forth is a joke, and kills the game.

God. Please.

And agree on the refs. They change their rules constantly and never get called for it. It allowed ND to shut us down late second half and skewed with rhythm in the second. They have a considerable impact in every single game we play. The worst way to judge  reffing is by fouls count....cause its all about the fouls they don;t call - this is how KU fans trick themselves into believing they don't receive a unbalanced amount of beneficial calls.
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2013, 11:51:46 PM »
Connaughton was 6-10 from the field with all 6-10 from the perimeter.  And he was guarded on how many of those 10?  It ain't rocket science.  

#FreeSteveTaylor

This.  I was at the game, and I just couldn't believe how the team didn't mark Connaughton at all. Mayo seemed to his man, but nobody was close most of the time. It was frustrating.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2013, 11:55:32 PM »
That call on Vander in the 2nd blew my mind. How can you not call contact under the boards but call that?

Then the travel on Sherman. They showed the replay twice. Both times you can see he picked up the pivot.

MU didn't go inside as much as they wanted. That was part of the problem, no doubt.
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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2013, 12:06:42 AM »

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Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either.  Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2013, 01:10:19 AM »
I was working so I caught the game in glimpses so I can't complain about the officials, but we seemed satisfied in not slitting their throats Jae Crowder style in the first half and they chipped away and once we lost the lead we went flat.  Nobody to blame, but ourselves.  I'll suffer through it and watch it again tomorrow to see what I really missed.  We are all just hurting because we hate going down to the South Bend Scum Sucking Sphincters (trademark pending)

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2013, 06:23:46 AM »
Anyone who thinks the refs were the main reason for this loss is  kidding themselves. Love this squad and what they've been able to accomplish, but this team has some shortcomings.

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Re: Some random observations on Notre Dame game
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2013, 06:46:58 AM »
Agree on all but one point.  I thought Lockett played decently.  He was all over the offensive glass at least.


What????
I thought that was the worst game Lockett had as a Warrior. Haven't seen his stat line yet, but his play was brutal.