Mike Hunt's ho-hum article on Marquette

[WarriorDoc]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/eagles-stay-consistent-in-big-east-7p40vk3-138456994.html

Can he be any lazier?  Claiming we haven't had much tourney success since Wade...I'd consider a Final Four and a Sweet Sixteen in the past ten years to be tourney success, not to mention we've made it 6 straight times since 2006 and will make it 7 with this year.

[tower912]

He continues to live up to his name. 

[GGGG]

Does he realize that Idaho and California will be BE states for football only?

[JTBMU7]

He continues to live up to his name. 

why doesnt he just go by Michael? he has to understand the joke at this point...

[esotericmindguy]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/eagles-stay-consistent-in-big-east-7p40vk3-138456994.html

Can he be any lazier?  Claiming we haven't had much tourney success since Wade...I'd consider a Final Four and a Sweet Sixteen in the past ten years to be tourney success, not to mention we've made it 6 straight times since 2006 and will make it 7 with this year.

You do know that wade was on the final four team correct? He said limited success since wade, I'd say that's accurate. I think most agree on this board that MU is a top 20 program do making it Gould be expected. I don't follow the guy on a regular basis but I don't see a problem with the article, the big east is down compared to previous years. Will be interesting to see how the conference does in the tourney because they were awful last year.

[WarriorDoc]

You do know that wade was on the final four team correct? He said limited success since wade, I'd say that's accurate. I think most agree on this board that MU is a top 20 program do making it Gould be expected. I don't follow the guy on a regular basis but I don't see a problem with the article, the big east is down compared to previous years. Will be interesting to see how the conference does in the tourney because they were awful last year.

Yes, I do happen to know that Wade was on the final four team.  I was just making a point of saying the past 10 years haven't been terrible by any means.

However the implications and tone in the article is a joke.  He makes it seem like the additions of SDSU and BSU are going to affect Marquette in some drastic way (considering they're football only schools...they won't).  He also implies that the Big East used to have serious credentials that are now gone as the traditional powers are down this year.  Well, the BEast still has 9 teams projected into the tourney according to bracketology--the most out of any conference.  Not to mention a single down year does not make a conference wane in power.  BEast got the most tourney bids last year and they likely will again this year.

[mu_hilltopper]

Amazing how playing in a conference where literally every other game is against an NCAA bound team is somehow underwhelming.

[Badgerhater]

Most people have not read the article due to the new paywall, and such articles won't get many to buy a subscription either.

J-S is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

[GGGG]

Actually the paywall resets today because it's the first of the month.

[Skatastrophy]

Most people have not read the article due to the new paywall, and such articles won't get many to buy a subscription either.

J-S is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

They have less than 10 MU articles a month.  They were never relevant and nobody here should have a problem with the paywall

[dwaderoy2004]

I see no problem whatsoever with this article.

[The Lens]

The inferiority complex of Marquette fans never ceases to amaze.

[sailwi]

i've been told the JS has a "soft" firewall which supposedly if you delete you cookies it will think you are getting article #1, I get the Sunday paper so I have a free online subscription so I haven't personally tried this trick.

[LON]

The article seemed like a backhanded way of trolling, in my opinion.  And it worked.  So at least he is varying his style - instead of blatantly trolling.

[AZWarrior]

Actually the paywall resets today because it's the first of the month.

I'll make sure not to waste my limited "article allowance" by reading anything by Mike Hunt.   

[Freeport Warrior]

Actually the paywall resets today because it's the first of the month.

If you're on a Mac, just use "private browsing" and it gets around the J/S paywall. I heard it works well for hiding porn from the wife as well.

[jsglow]

Mr. Hunt is simply a bum.  Last year he rehashed the same sexual assault article three times.  Never any new information or any thoughtful discussion.  Today's article is typical of his views and sloppy reporting.  Can't believe he still gets a paycheck.

[🏀]

If you're on a Mac, just use "private browsing" and it gets around the J/S paywall. I heard it works well for hiding porn from the wife as well.

Google Chrome also has this feature.

[MU82]

A few things ...

One, I'd have changed my name all together if my parents had stuck me with that unfortunate confluence, but he does go by Michael.

Two, aside from being a little too dismissive of this year's Big East, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this column. Although columns are all about opinion and analysis, it is a fact that Marquette has won 4 NCAA games in 8 years since Wade left. It also is a fact that the conference is going to change markedly after this season, and not for the better.

Three, Hunt repeatedly praises Williams and the team's consistency, noting that many programs -- such as DePaul -- would kill to have Marquette's "problems."

Finally, a disclaimer: I know and like Michael, and I believe he is a quality columnist. When you do what he does for a living, you're always gonna piss off the readers who disagree with you and make those who agree with you happy.

[Benny B]

Careful what you say about Mr. Hunt... he has a legion of loyal followers.  Granted, they're a bunch of douches, but a legion nonetheless.


(BTW - It's a double entendre, not a reference to MU82's post.  Most of you should have picked that up, but I just wanted to be clear.)

[TJ]

A few things ...

One, I'd have changed my name all together if my parents had stuck me with that unfortunate confluence, but he does go by Michael.

Two, aside from being a little too dismissive of this year's Big East, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this column. Although columns are all about opinion and analysis, it is a fact that Marquette has won 4 NCAA games in 8 years since Wade left. It also is a fact that the conference is going to change markedly after this season, and not for the better.

Three, Hunt repeatedly praises Williams and the team's consistency, noting that many programs -- such as DePaul -- would kill to have Marquette's "problems."

+1

Agree with everything you said.  It is accurate to say we haven't had much tourney success since Wade.  Getting in (which we have been successful at lately) is not tourney success.

[Hoopaloop]

He is correct the Big East isn't as good as in past years.  However, it's not like the conference is terrible.  I don't recall reading articles from the Journal Sentinel over the years when the Badgers were near the top at the same time the Big Ten was not anywhere close to a top 3 conference.

[godzilla]

The inferiority complex of Marquette fans never ceases to amaze.

That's exactly what it is, an inferiority complex.  Why, I have no idea.

Whether it's Hunt or Woeful, MU fans always are harping on coverage that isn't glowing enough.

It's a fact that the BE is down this year.  It's a fact that MU hasn't had much tourney success since Wade left.  It's a fact that the BE will be a shell of it's former self soon.  IMO, it was balanced column, but I guess most MU fans just want butt kissing.

[🏀]

He is correct the Big East isn't as good as in past years.  However, it's not like the conference is terrible.  I don't recall reading articles from the Journal Sentinel over the years when the Badgers were near the top at the same time the Big Ten was not anywhere close to a top 3 conference.

+1

It's not the inferiority, it's the picking at all things Marquette that is never applied to Wisconsin.

He writes the column to garner pages views. MU fans hate it and read it. UW fans love it and read it. It's the lesser of the two evils and he's scared of Wisconsin.

[tower912]

Yes, the BEast in its current form is fading away.   Somehow, 42-41 is forever.     

[Aughnanure]

+1

It's not the inferiority, it's the picking at all things Marquette that is never applied to Wisconsin.

He writes the column to garner pages views. MU fans hate it and read it. UW fans love it and read it.

This.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

+1

It's not the inferiority, it's the picking at all things Marquette that is never applied to Wisconsin.

He writes the column to garner pages views. MU fans hate it and read it. UW fans love it and read it. It's the lesser of the two evils and he's scared of Wisconsin.

This is exactly correct.

It's not a bad column, but he's definitely writing for his audience, he's not challenging them.

- If UWM makes the tourney 6 straight years, they would throw a parade (and rightfully so, imo).

- If UW makes the tourney 6 straight years, it's due to Bo's "consistency" and "system". What a great coach. Fundamentals. White guys. Awesome.

- If MU makes the tourney 6 straight years, it's "Haven't had post season success since Wade"

Hunt's not incorrect, but it's a topic that is cliche and dumbed down for a bonehead mass audience.

[wadesworld]

Will be interesting to see how the conference does in the tourney because they were awful last year.

Yeah, you're right.  The team that finished ELEVENTH place in the Big East won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.  Showings like that in the NCAA Tournament show just how awful the conference was last year.  You realize that last year the Final Four had 1 SEC team, 1 Big East team, 1 CAA team, and 1 Horizon League team in it, right?  Where are the Big 10/11/12 teams?  Big 12?  Pac 10/12?  ACC?  The Big East and Horizon League were represented in the National Championship, with the Big East team (again, the ELEVENTH PLACE Big East team) winning it all.  Horrible showing.

The Big East had 2 Sweet 16 teams, while both of those teams knocked out other Big East teams to get there (while no other conferences had 2 teams match up that early in the tournament, and thus could have teams advance further without knocking each other out).  The ACC had 3 Sweet 16 teams, Big 10/11/12 had 2, SEC had 2, Pac 10/12 had 1, and the Big 12 had 1.

The Big East had 1 Elite Eight team, as did the ACC, Pac 10/12, and Big 12, while the SEC had 2 and the Big 10/11/12 had ZERO.

To say the conference had an awful showing in the NCAA Tournament last year is just plain wrong.  And 2 teams were forced to exit within the 1st 2 rounds because it was 2 Big East teams facing one another.  Who knows if a team like Cinci (a 6 seed) switches spots with an injury plagued St. John's team (a 6 seed) and plays Gonzaga in the first round and then BYU in the second round rather than playing UConn in the second round.  Maybe Cinci's in the Elite Eight.  Same with Syracuse (a 3 seed) switching spots with a Notre Dame or something (a 2 seed).  Maybe instead of losing 2nd round to Marquette, they beat Florida State and then face VCU.  They could've gone to the Final Four.

[lab_warrior]

- If UWM makes the tourney 6 straight years, they would throw a parade (and rightfully so, imo).

- If UW makes the tourney 6 straight years, it's due to Bo's "consistency" and "system". What a great coach. Fundamentals. White guys. Awesome.

- If MU makes the tourney 6 straight years, it's "Haven't had post season success since Wade"

Hunt's not incorrect, but it's a topic that is cliche and dumbed down for a bonehead mass audience.

I could not have stated this in a more coherent, organized, perfect fashion.  His columns are garbage, and the above bullet points are right on the money.  And the people that read them are a large percentage derpy fat humps who need this kind of  reinforcement soylent green-ish-ly spoonfed to them.

[MattyWarrior]

JS sucks, online or otherwise. They are trending downward to extiction,well deserved!

[karavotsos]

Hunt's not incorrect, but it's a topic that is cliche and dumbed down for a bonehead mass audience.

I'm with jerkstore.   

Someone said Obama's state of the union speech was written at an 8th grade level.  I wonder what Hunt's columns would rate.  If the Journal Sentinal had someone rate a Michael Hunt column, and then forced him to go back to whatever grade his column rated at and retake all the grades in order to keep his job, all while filming it for a real-life Billy Madison-story documentary, I would be OK with that.   

[TomW1365]

The inferiority complex of Marquette fans never ceases to amaze.

I agree.  This article was stating some obvious points that the perenial powerhouses are not playing up to their expectations and that this is a great year to have Marquette take advantage of that.  I didn't take this article as a slight in any way.  In fact, I think Mr Kunt was acknowlodging our consistency and success.

[Benny B]

I'm with jerkstore.   

Someone said Obama's state of the union speech was written at an 8th grade level.  I wonder what Hunt's columns would rate.  If the Journal Sentinal had someone rate a Michael Hunt column, and then forced him to go back to whatever grade his column rated at and retake all the grades in order to keep his job, all while filming it for a real-life Billy Madison-story documentary, I would be OK with that.   

Considering the average American probably only has (or thinks) at an 8th grade level, you have to give credit to people for knowing their audience.

[warriorchick]

Considering the average American probably only has (or thinks) at an 8th grade level, you have to give credit to people for knowing their audience.

Maybe that's why he hasn't changed his name.

[JTBMU7]

since the '03 final four run, MU is 4-6 in the NCAA's in 6 trips. Doesn't look very good when you lay it out like that.

anyone know how that stacks up to other programs who have been in the tourney a comprable amount of times?

[TJ]

since the '03 final four run, MU is 4-6 in the NCAA's in 6 trips. Doesn't look very good when you lay it out like that.

Though it is better than the 2-5 it was the year before.  Last year really helped on the road to recovery.

[The Lens]

since the '03 final four run, MU is 4-6 in the NCAA's in 6 trips. Doesn't look very good when you lay it out like that.

anyone know how that stacks up to other programs who have been in the tourney a comprable amount of times?

Going forward I like our odds of improving in the tourney.  In 6 tourneys (Big East & NCAA) Buzz has only 1 and Done'd once.  I bet that Washington loss haunts him.  

[tower912]

since the '03 final four run, MU is 4-6 in the NCAA's in 6 trips. Doesn't look very good when you lay it out like that.

anyone know how that stacks up to other programs who have been in the tourney a comprable amount of times?

Buzz NCAA record   3-3.     Crean's NCAA record post FF run.   1-3.    On the plus side, Crean has not lost a NCAA or NIT game since leaving.   So he has that going for him. 

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I didn't find the article insulting.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Many said after MU's two NIT bids in a row after the Final Four, that MU will be a bottomfeeder in the Big East. They been to the ncaa's every year.

[MU82]

We have won 4 tourney games in 8 years since Wade left. Not the worst record out there, but not great.

If Gardner gets healthy and we have a nice run to, say, the Elite 8, which is optimistic but certainly possible, we can say we will have won 7 tourney games in 5 years, including runs to the Sweet 16 and Elite 8. Pretty darned good, and trending upward.

[JTBMU7]

def moving in the right direction as a program as far as NCAA tourney success is concerned, but that doesnt mean Hunt was unfair in his comment about our record since 2003.

that being said, Buzz's teams thrive on being underestimated/undervalued, bring on the haters!

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Mike Hunt stinks

[chapman]

Mike Hunt stinks

There are so many responses to this.  All inappropriate.   

[Scooter22]

I read this article and wondered: what was the point?  The Big East isn't poorer this year because of the impending departure of Syracuse and Pitt.  Aside from the Cuse, there aren't any dominant teams, but there are some good ones.  Hunt's article seemed to be saying that the Big East was on the decline, but it's not MU's fault and they keep playing hard - so again, what's the point? 

[mviale]

Hey Mike Hunt, how is the Big Ten doing? 

[Dr. Blackheart]

"You can hit Mike Hunt but you cannot lick our Dickey". 

The good old days of Packers vs Bears banter.

[mileskishnish72]

I think you really have to have your sensitive shirt on to take much offense from that article.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Mike Hunt stinks

Now you know why Colonel Angus doesn't come around much anymore

[TJ]

Hey Mike Hunt, how is the Big Ten doing? 

As always, it was the best conference from preseason until about mid-December when reality sets in and the analysts can no longer make that claim with a straight face.

[MU82]

Mike wasn't writing about the Big Ten, he was writing about the Big East. And the Big East clearly isn't as good this season as it had been the previous few years. Why this fact is perceived as some kind of insult is beyond me.

[Spotcheck Billy]

then I guess you missed this column on Sunday when he ripped Alvarez a new one, this one made my day on Sunday

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badgers/ignorance-of-rose-bowl-party-should-not-be-alvarez-excuse-6l3vba3-138272459.html

+1

It's not the inferiority, it's the picking at all things Marquette that is never applied to Wisconsin.

He writes the column to garner pages views. MU fans hate it and read it. UW fans love it and read it. It's the lesser of the two evils and he's scared of Wisconsin.

[marquette09]

 The team that finished ELEVENTH place in the Big East won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.  

Actually, UCONN finished 9th, we finished 11th.  We did not win the national championship last year. 

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Mike Hunt is sloppy