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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: KampusFoods on January 22, 2016, 04:00:04 PM
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Not sure if this is old news, but this particular story was published today. Says he'll be deciding "probably around April."
Nothing else in there that hasn't been shared.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/01/21/markus-howard-basketball-recruiting-indiana-arizona-state
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All right, all right ... I'll change my Scoop handle to MH82!
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Marquette is #211 in offensive efficiency on Kenpom. Could use him starting Saturday.
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Marquette is #211 in offensive efficiency on Kenpom. Could use him starting Saturday.
Any chance he could reclassify from 2017 to tomorrow?
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Any chance he could reclassify from 2017 to tomorrow?
+1000 this
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Markus Howard finished with 5 pts (2-8, 1-5 3P), 0 ast on Saturday in a 77-71 loss to rival Bishop Gorman.
Another precautionary post to not put impossible savior type expectations on him next year, if he chooses MU
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Markus Howard finished with 5 pts (2-8, 1-5 3P), 0 ast on Saturday in a 77-71 loss to rival Bishop Gorman.
Another precautionary post to not put impossible savior type expectations on him next year, if he chooses MU
Screw that ...
He will be a stud. And if he isn't, he sucks.
Oh, and Wojo should be fired.
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Screw that ...
He will be a stud. And if he isn't, he sucks.
Oh, and Wojo should be fired.
HE 2.0?
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HE 2.0?
More important recruit than Hank.
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More important recruit than Hank.
How so? Carter and Haanif are still on this team for next year. Did I miss something where Howard is a can't miss, immediate contributor without issue as a true freshman?
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The guy can shoot the rock while playing the most important position on the floor. More efficient scorer than Hank. He would start from day 1.
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The guy can shoot the rock while playing the most important position on the floor. More efficient scorer than Hank. He would start from day 1.
While I'm sure he'll be good/great, I'm not getting caught up in the hyperbole based on the HE results to date.
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While I'm sure he'll be good/great, I'm not getting caught up in the hyperbole based on the HE results to date.
He might be great but it will not be as a freshman point guard, he plays 2 guard on his team right now. It would be nice if he is as good as Brunson of Villy, both
shooting point guards.
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How so? Carter and Haanif are still on this team for next year. Did I miss something where Howard is a can't miss, immediate contributor without issue as a true freshman?
Howard projects as a four year player. I think that's the biggest difference.
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Howard projects as a four year player. I think that's the biggest difference.
I'm on board with that, but he's not the savior for next year. If PG play doesn't improve with sophomore Carter and/or Haanif we're right back in the same boat we are now.
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Central Arkansas coach is despicable. Pretty clear why his brother got a scholly there.
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Central Arkansas coach is despicable. Pretty clear why his brother got a scholly there.
Hmm...I'm interested now. Any back story?
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Hmm...I'm interested now. Any back story?
It's a joke. That's what badger fans say about Wojo and Wally
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It's a joke. That's what badger fans say about Wojo and Wally
I'm an idiot. Should have know it would come back to the Vadgers :)
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All right gang, time for a reality check:
1) Rome wasn't built in a day and we're not a national championship contender this year. Or next year for that matter. Every player is a piece of the puzzle and while both Henry and Markus Howard are important, they're part of the mosaic that builds a championship.
2) Have we not forgotten the lesson of this year -- which I conveniently forgot! As Al once said, "the best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores." Don't think this guy walks on water -- yet.
3) We're getting stronger recruits and we'll be fine.
The hardest thing for me as a 70s Warrior is patience. We want championships... NOW! I'm optimistic as I see Wojo's growth and the recruiting interest in us continues to be pretty strong. It's just time for patience.
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I'm on board with that, but he's not the savior for next year. If PG play doesn't improve with sophomore Carter and/or Haanif we're right back in the same boat we are now.
I don't think he's a savior at pg either. He's not the same type of player as Jalen Brunson, but how Nova uses him and Arci would be a good model for us. I think Traci will make a big leap next season. Carter, Duane, Rowsey, HC, JJJ, and Howard would make a very deadly group of guards. I think we'd see a lot of four guard lineups with a high tempo pace.
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I don't think he's a savior at pg either. He's not the same type of player as Jalen Brunson, but how Nova uses him and Arci would be a good model for us. I think Traci will make a big leap next season. Carter, Duane, Rowsey, HC, JJJ, and Howard would make a very deadly group of guards. I think we'd see a lot of four guard lineups with a high tempo pace.
Right, again I'm on board, I'm just trying to head off at the pass the idea that one recruit will make or break the team next year.
Either we'll be really good and Howard helps take us to an elite 8 level (think Novak as a freshman from an impact standpoint) or we'll be average and Howard helps us fight for a bid. Or we could be on the negative side of the bubble and Howard shows signs of greatness but can't help us get over our lack of rebounding ability.
This is all assuming there is no defections and only HE leaves next year and all players progress.
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I don't think he's a savior at pg either. He's not the same type of player as Jalen Brunson, but how Nova uses him and Arci would be a good model for us. I think Traci will make a big leap next season. Carter, Duane, Rowsey, HC, JJJ, and Howard would make a very deadly group of guards. I think we'd see a lot of four guard lineups with a high tempo pace.
I disagree Brunson and Howard are shooting guards, both short, both have nice strokes. Brunson probably has a better handle, since Howard plays 2 guard not sure
about his handle, both pretty smooth, both not like Traci Carter, a turnover to happen.
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All right, all right ... I'll change my Scoop handle to MH82!
Don't queer our chances!
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He's gonna have to be a spark plug since he's barely 6'.
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My understanding is that Howard played point guard for the U.S. National team last summer so he is more then capable of playing that roll.
He is playing mostly shooting guard this year because it is what Findley needs him to do.
I doubt Cheatham plays much point next year. Rowsey will be a likely be a better option if we don't get Howard.
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Just watched a few videos of him.
Reminds me a lot of Peyton Siva but with what seems like a stronger base.
Sign me up.
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Just watched a few videos of him.
Reminds me a lot of Peyton Siva but with what seems like a stronger base.
Sign me up.
Thought his body type was more like El Amin of UConn.
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One thing I have learned is to be very skeptical about high school highlight videos. They only show highlights and many times against weak competition or club setting with no defense. The poor performance against Bishop Gorman, a very good athletic team, is worth noting. Yes a kid has a bad game and it shouldn't be held against him. It is also worth noting that schools like Duke and UNC are not banging down the door to sign him.
Obviously Howard has a nice shot. I will be happy if we get him. With time he should be able to make a contribution.
At this point I would value Rowsey more. He is a proven success at the D1 level and has had a year to practice with the team.
If I get a chance to see him in person then maybe I will have a different opinion.
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My understanding is that Howard played point guard for the U.S. National team last summer so he is more then capable of playing that roll.
He is playing mostly shooting guard this year because it is what Findley needs him to do.
Team USA: 2 assists per game
2015 AAU: 2 assists per game
2015/2016 Findlay Prep: 3 assists per game
Fwiw he sounds like a guy who is looking to score, and score some more for a 5'10 kid
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Team USA: 2 assists per game
2015 AAU: 2 assists per game
2015/2016 Findlay Prep: 3 assists per game
Fwiw he sounds like a guy who is looking to score, and score some more for a 5'10 kid
And don't we have exactly that in Rowsey for next year?
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I disagree Brunson and Howard are shooting guards, both short, both have nice strokes. Brunson probably has a better handle, since Howard plays 2 guard not sure
about his handle, both pretty smooth, both not like Traci Carter, a turnover to happen.
Brunson is more PG than SG. Brunson is also 4 inches taller than Howard. Brunson is also more of a slasher and Howard is more of a shooter. Theres really not that many similarities.
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And don't we have exactly that in Rowsey for next year?
I don't know how Marquette fans, after the past however many years, could possibly think that there wouldn't be a need for a guy who can shoot the lights out and has the skill set to play the 1.
Looking at the number of assists per game on a high school team a kid has to determine whether he is a guy who looks to score or looks to distribute is silly. New flash: most high schools aren't made up of a ton of D1 prospects. If you're a high major prospect at the point, chances are you scored a lot more than you assisted on your high school team.
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I don't know how Marquette fans, after the past however many years, could possibly think that there wouldn't be a need for a guy who can shoot the lights out and has the skill set to play the 1.
Looking at the number of assists per game on a high school team a kid has to determine whether he is a guy who looks to score or looks to distribute is silly. New flash: most high schools aren't made up of a ton of D1 prospects. If you're a high major prospect at the point, chances are you scored a lot more than you assisted on your high school team.
Yes but doesn't Howard play on Findlay Prep? They're loaded with D1 prospects to throw passes to.
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The guy can shoot the rock while playing the most important position on the floor. More efficient scorer than Hank. He would start from day 1.
Until he puts an MU uniform on, then he'll struggle to put into the ocean.
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Yes but doesn't Howard play on Findlay Prep? They're loaded with D1 prospects to throw passes to.
Including one of the best point guards in the country, so he's playing the shooting guard.
He has 49 assists to 10 turnovers with 23 steals. I'll take my chances with a guy who can shoot the rock (56% from the floor and 53% from deep) and values the basketball at the point.
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High majors, including us, want the kid.
That's enough for me.
Get him, Wojo. We'll worry about having "too damn much talent" later!
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Some guys will b!tch about a blowjob huh?
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So now because Duke and UNC might not be "banging down his door" he is not an important recruit?
Really? That is now thew standard?
Arizona offered.......so have UCONN, Georgetown, Indiana, and Gonzaga.
According to 247 Duke and Kansas have shown interest....maybe we should wait until they offer before we take him?
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Markus-Howard-75093/RecruitInterests
Some observations from his play last summer.....http://peachstatebasketball.com/brandonclayscouting-player-card-markus-howard/
The kid is a top 30-35 recruit playing on the best prep school team in the country.
FWIW I watched him play on TV last week against top competition. He was the MVP of the game.
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I don't know how Marquette fans, after the past however many years, could possibly think that there wouldn't be a need for a guy who can shoot the lights out and has the skill set to play the 1.
Looking at the number of assists per game on a high school team a kid has to determine whether he is a guy who looks to score or looks to distribute is silly. New flash: most high schools aren't made up of a ton of D1 prospects. If you're a high major prospect at the point, chances are you scored a lot more than you assisted on your high school team.
Not saying we shouldn't get him, but I'm saying he's not the panacea to cure what ails us this year and next
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Not saying we shouldn't get him, but I'm saying he's not the panacea to cure what ails us this year and next
If Hank were to stay, he sure would be. If not but we get a big who doesn't provide much offense but rebounds the heck out of the ball, he still would be.
So now because Duke and UNC might not be "banging down his door" he is not an important recruit?
Really? That is now thew standard?
Arizona offered.......so have UCONN, Georgetown, Indiana, and Gonzaga.
According to 247 Duke and Kansas have shown interest....maybe we should wait until they offer before we take him?
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Markus-Howard-75093/RecruitInterests
Some observations from his play last summer.....http://peachstatebasketball.com/brandonclayscouting-player-card-markus-howard/
The kid is a top 30-35 recruit playing on the best prep school team in the country.
FWIW I watched him play on TV last week against top competition. He was the MVP of the game.
Hmm, lots of talk about how he's the best point guard out there. Who would've guessed he could play point?
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If Hank were to stay, he sure would be. If not but we get a big who doesn't provide much offense but rebounds the heck out of the ball, he still would be.
Hmm, lots of talk about how he's the best point guard out there. Who would've guessed he could play point?
Already back to wadesworld? Do I smell a #donedeal brewing?
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Not saying we shouldn't get him, but I'm saying he's not the panacea to cure what ails us this year and next
There are maybe -- maybe -- 10-15 recruits a year that fit that category.
Many, many folks here thought Hank would be that for us this year ... but he hasn't been.
We're trying to completely rebuild an entire program, not just a team. Yes, a few elites have done so overnight. The vast majority need years to get it done.
This happens even among some bluebloods (and "near bluebloods"). We've been to the Final Four AND an Elite Eight since Indiana last made it that far. We've been to an Elite Eight since UCLA got that far. Florida and Syracuse are in downturns. Georgetown hasn't made it out of the first round since 2007 -- we've been to three S16s and an E8 since then. Cinci used to be regarded as a pretty damn good program; they haven't gotten past the first weekend in almost a quarter-century. Illinois was on the cusp of "elitehood" a decade ago; since then, they WISH they had the run we had.
And so on and so on as you look through Power 5 conference teams. Hell, there are some here who actually think Northwestern is ready to break through. We'll see.
So do I think Markus Howard or any one player is THE answer? No I do not. But I still want him -- as do coaches at some of the nation's top teams -- to be PART of the answer. Hopefully a big part of the answer.
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Already back to wadesworld? Do I smell a #donedeal brewing?
I tried it for one of the grad transfers we were after (don't remember which). It didn't work. So until we're in on another WI McD's AA (let's go, Joey!), I'll stick to WW.
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Team USA: 2 assists per game
2015 AAU: 2 assists per game
2015/2016 Findlay Prep: 3 assists per game
Fwiw he sounds like a guy who is looking to score, and score some more for a 5'10 kid
Yogi Ferrell ... pretty good PG, right? We'd take him, correct?
Had 1 assist against Wisconsin tonight, and didn't get that until 2 mins remained in regulation. Had 30 points, though. Not too shabby.
He is averaging 6 assists, however, so obviously he can pass. Nearly 3 TOs, too.
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Also, played pretty good D on Koenig, worst game I have seen him play all year. Crean, did not help his team win, they could not defend Hayes or Happ. Dakish
is a shill for Indiana. Thomas Bryant got toasted by Happ tonight, lottery pick, if so, so are Happ, Ellenson and Hayes. I would hate to be the GM to pick Bryant, undersized no D center that has zero range, much like Happ, but he has game down under, lay-up after lay-up against Bryant.
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Yogi Ferrell ... pretty good PG, right? We'd take him, correct?
Had 1 assist against Wisconsin tonight, and didn't get that until 2 mins remained in regulation. Had 30 points, though. Not too shabby.
He is averaging 6 assists, however, so obviously he can pass. Nearly 3 TOs, too.
Um...when did I say Howard isn't any good or I didn't want him at MU? All I said was his stats say he is a score first PG. that's all. He will be amazing wherever he goes
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Um...when did I say Howard isn't any good or I didn't want him at MU? All I said was his stats say he is a score first PG. that's all. He will be amazing wherever he goes
Please accept my apologies. I read too much into your post.
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Watched the IU-NW game on Saturday with some pretty knowledgeable college basketball guys (a couple played PG in college). I asked how MH compared to YF and in unison two of them said MH is better now in HS than YF was. Better defense. Not as quick, but still a good athlete. Absolutely is the top target for MU now. I still think it comes down to IU or MU. Our biggest plus is SJ.
Watched video and he has a unbelievable step back 3 already, but adds in a perfect form pull up jump shot from 3 and mid-range. That was the one thing (MRJ) that was really pointed out. The mid-range pull up jumper is almost a lost art. quick hands, moves feet well. Ok body, but as usual will need to get stronger. SJ really believes he is a game changer.
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Watched the IU-NW game on Saturday with some pretty knowledgeable college basketball guys (a couple played PG in college). I asked how MH compared to YF and in unison two of them said MH is better now in HS than YF was. Better defense. Not as quick, but still a good athlete. Absolutely is the top target for MU now. I still think it comes down to IU or MU. Our biggest plus is SJ.
Watched video and he has a unbelievable step back 3 already, but adds in a perfect form pull up jump shot from 3 and mid-range. That was the one thing (MRJ) that was really pointed out. The mid-range pull up jumper is almost a lost art. quick hands, moves feet well. Ok body, but as usual will need to get stronger. SJ really believes he is a game changer.
Thanks BD! Any idea whether MH will be 2016 or 2017?
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Thanks BD! Any idea whether MH will be 2016 or 2017?
Not BD, but highly likely he reclassifies to 2016.
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90% 2016 Only reason he doesn't is if he doesn't (I know double negative-- English was my worst class at MU.. $1.00 pitchers at the gym was number 1) have an option for 2016 he really likes. Can't see him turning down both IU and MU or one of the other options for 2016, unless one of the BB comes a knocking but only for 2017.
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Absolutely is the top target for MU now. I still think it comes down to IU or MU. Our biggest plus is SJ.
Home state ASU is out after he just visited there recently? That's interesting & good to hear
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Home state ASU is out after he just visited there recently?
Far from it.
And if I'm making a semi-educated guess as to where he ends up, ASU is who I'd pick.
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This would be a giant get.
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This would be a giant get.
I agree. I am really impressed with his composure and abilities. SJ seems to have his ear. Would love to see a commit in February.
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Baylor & Indiana both have impressive 5'11 senior PG who need to be replaced, without any PG commits for 2016 yet.
I'm fairly optimistic after BD gave his input though. Looking forward to his visit
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Home state ASU is out after he just visited there recently? That's interesting & good to hear
He already decommitted from them once. The school didnt appeal to him, just the coaches, one oh whom is now working for us. From what I've gathered Howard has a really good relationship with Stan Johnson. If our backcourt wasn't so crowded, I think he would have committed already. Make him comfortable with his role on our team and he's ours.
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Make him comfortable with his role on our team and he's ours.
Is this just your guess?
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Is this just your guess?
An educated guess. But trying to predict what a 17 year old kid will do in the future is always guesswork.
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He already decommitted from them once. The school didnt appeal to him, just the coaches, one oh whom is now working for us.
And then Hurley took over.
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And then Hurley took over.
Everything I've heard leads me to believe that Howard's relationship with Johnson is much better than any relationship he has with anyone currently at ASU.
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An educated guess. But trying to predict what a 17 year old kid will do in the future is always guesswork.
Just checking, I know your a highly respected poster. Didn't know if you had any BD super sources :) thanks!
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He already decommitted from them once. The school didnt appeal to him, just the coaches, one oh whom is now working for us. From what I've gathered Howard has a really good relationship with Stan Johnson. If our backcourt wasn't so crowded, I think he would have committed already. Make him comfortable with his role on our team and he's ours.
You have pointed out the one thing that I think is preventing him from committing to us. We are loaded at the back court with guys who have 2-3 years left. Not enough minutes .
80 minutes of guard time. Duane and Cheatem each getting 30 a game next year. That leaves 20 for Carter, Rowsey and Howard . 40 minutes Wing time allocated to JJJ, Cohen,Sacar and Wally so no meaningful time there. Even if we go to a small lineup with one big, there are 8 guys in the mix ahead of him. I guarantee the kid is smart enough to see that.
I think our coaches will have to do a lot of selling to get him to reclassify to a 2016. Now if he is coming as a 2017 closing the deal may be a little bit easier.
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You have pointed out the one thing that I think is preventing him from committing to us. We are loaded at the back court with guys who have 2-3 years left. Not enough minutes .
80 minutes of guard time. Duane and Cheatem each getting 30 a game next year. That leaves 20 for Carter, Rowsey and Howard . 40 minutes Wing time allocated to JJJ, Cohen,Sacar and Wally so no meaningful time there. Even if we go to a small lineup with one big, there are 8 guys in the mix ahead of him. I guarantee the kid is smart enough to see that.
I think our coaches will have to do a lot of selling to get him to reclassify to a 2016. Now if he is coming as a 2017 closing the deal may be a little bit easier.
He would start from day 1 on Marquette.
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Just checking, I know your a highly respected poster. Didn't know if you had any BD super sources :) thanks!
No one has Big Daddy super sources, besides Big Daddy. lol
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He would start from day 1 on Marquette.
Over Who? Duane,Cheatem, Rowsey? Carter?
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He would start from day 1 on Marquette.
I think so too. I don't know if he would start at the point though. I don't know what the coaches envision as his role or what Howard's desired role would be. Gotta believe Indiana and Baylor are whispering about our crowded backcourt and their stud PGs about to graduate. It would give me pause if I was in his shoes.
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Over Who? Duane,Cheatem, Rowsey? Carter?
He would start at PG. 2 of Duane, Cheatham, and JJ would start alongside him. Could even go small and have all of those guys with Luke at the 5. Don't think Carter starts if MH is on the team. I have no idea about Rowsey.
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I have no idea about Rowsey.
That's what I keep thinking. Wojo was looking for this type of player when he landed Rowsey. Now it seems like he could find an even better version. But what happens to Rowsey?
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You have pointed out the one thing that I think is preventing him from committing to us. We are loaded at the back court with guys who have 2-3 years left. Not enough minutes .
80 minutes of guard time. Duane and Cheatem each getting 30 a game next year. That leaves 20 for Carter, Rowsey and Howard . 40 minutes Wing time allocated to JJJ, Cohen,Sacar and Wally so no meaningful time there. Even if we go to a small lineup with one big, there are 8 guys in the mix ahead of him. I guarantee the kid is smart enough to see that.
I think our coaches will have to do a lot of selling to get him to reclassify to a 2016. Now if he is coming as a 2017 closing the deal may be a little bit easier.
Over Who? Duane,Cheatem, Rowsey? Carter?
I see next year's team as a very fast paced four guard lineup. Sacrifice rebounding for speed, shooting, and steals.
Way too early to do this but its always fun to guess. Assuming Henry leaves, no grad transfer, and Howard comes
Guards (2): Duane 25, Howard 20, Carter 20, Rowsey 15
Wings (2): JJJ 25, Hannie 25, Sandy 15, Wally 10, Sacar 5
Centers: Luke 30, Matt 10
Redshirt: Hauser
Wojo has shown over two seasons now that he believes more in a "lead guard" position than a point guard. He's not afraid to have multiple ball handlers out there at once.
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Seems to me the most important factor MU has going for it is that MH trusts SJ. MH's mom said SJ is "like family". She would trust him to coach/mentor her son.
Trying to allocate hypothetical minutes played is pointless/futile. The players determine their minutes played. Case in point: Recently JJJ has earned more minutes because he's playing well.
Wojo's job is to recruit over his current players. If a players gets less time because someone is playing better than him he has three choices:
1. Work hard to play better and earn more minutes
2. Accept his diminished role
3. Transfer
That's life...
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That's what I keep thinking. Wojo was looking for this type of player when he landed Rowsey. Now it seems like he could find an even better version. But what happens to Rowsey?
Rowsey will get plenty of run. Don't think he starts. My hope is that he gives us a much-needed scoring spark off the bench. We were SO bad with our second five on the floor yesterday. Need guys off the bench that can stretch leads or end dry spells. I think Rowsey will do that.
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I see next year's team as a very fast paced four guard lineup. Sacrifice rebounding for speed, shooting, and steals.
I like that way of playing but don't see how you pull it off with Big Fish on the court and Heldt when he is not. Teams that do that effectively usually have an athletic but possibly undersized center. Its going to take time to get Fisher up and down the court. Even more I would have to expect your 6'11" SENIOR center would be a focus of you offense. Maybe if you have 4 good shooters on the floor you play 1 in 4 out where Fisher either tries to score in the post or kicks out to an open shooter for 3. BUT that assumes that our guys become consistent 3 point shooters, something no one has shown.
I'm afraid the personnel just don't match.
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Howard, Rowsey, Cheatham as a starting backcourt. Duane, Traci, and JJJ the 1st 3 off the bench. Could switch Cheatham and Duane depending on who's performing at the time.
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I see next year's team as a very fast paced four guard lineup. Sacrifice rebounding for speed, shooting, and steals.
Way too early to do this but its always fun to guess. Assuming Henry leaves, no grad transfer, and Howard comes
Guards (2): Duane 25, Howard 20, Carter 20, Rowsey 15
Wings (2): JJJ 25, Hannie 25, Sandy 15, Wally 10, Sacar 5
Centers: Luke 30, Matt 10
Redshirt: Hauser
Wojo has shown over two seasons now that he believes more in a "lead guard" position than a point guard. He's not afraid to have multiple ball handlers out there at once.
I understand what your saying about the lead guard. After 53 games of Wojo it is pretty clear what he values in a player. First, Duane will not be getting any less minutes than he has the past two years. Duane is very much in the vanguard of Wojo's thinking. Second, Haanif if anything will be going up in minutes. Wojo is constantly touting his virtues and has a lot of confidence in him. Third, Carter is a kid the coach sees upside in and thus will continue to absorb minutes. Fourth, Rowsey is a proven high scorer as a D-1 player,who has had a year to work with the team and build relationships, so he will not be on the pine.
There are no openings from departed seniors like this year. Wojo values experience. Howard is going to have to earn his playing time the old fashioned freshman way.
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I like that way of playing but don't see how you pull it off with Big Fish on the court and Heldt when he is not. Teams that do that effectively usually have an athletic but possibly undersized center. Its going to take time to get Fisher up and down the court. Even more I would have to expect your 6'11" SENIOR center would be a focus of you offense. Maybe if you have 4 good shooters on the floor you play 1 in 4 out where Fisher either tries to score in the post or kicks out to an open shooter for 3. BUT that assumes that our guys become consistent 3 point shooters, something no one has shown.
I'm afraid the personnel just don't match.
Even a running team doesn't usually need or have all 5 guys on the move, and the truth is Fischer is probably a bit better than average getting up the court. Then, if the fast game gets slowed down, he's a solid half court option. I like that combination. When he's out, you're right, Heldt doesn't fit as well in that approach, as he's more limited at this point.
Oh, and I like TAMU's notion of a 'lead guard' that is certainly what we are seeing without Carter on the floor.
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Hate to say it
But give me Howard and Henry next year and I'm good with whatever any other player decides.
Would like Duane, Haanif and JJJ though.
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Howard is 5'11" but with elite skills (especially shooting/scoring). He plays the 2 in high school because there is another elite PG on the team. I assume he wants to play basketball after college and the only position a 5'11" guy can play (even in Europe) is PG. Indiana and Baylor (and maybe others) have huge voids at PG next year and are offering the keys to this kid from day one. Hopefully we're recruiting him the same way. Our backcourt is crowded at the 2/3 but not at the point. Our only PG is Traci and when he starts he's the worst starting PG in the conference. If this kid is half the player everyone makes him out to be he gets 30 minutes from the jump and Traci get no more than 10.
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I see next year's team as a very fast paced four guard lineup. Sacrifice rebounding for speed, shooting, and steals.
Way too early to do this but its always fun to guess. Assuming Henry leaves, no grad transfer, and Howard comes
Guards (2): Duane 25, Howard 20, Carter 20, Rowsey 15
Wings (2): JJJ 25, Hannie 25, Sandy 15, Wally 10, Sacar 5
Centers: Luke 30, Matt 10
Redshirt: Hauser
Wojo has shown over two seasons now that he believes more in a "lead guard" position than a point guard. He's not afraid to have multiple ball handlers out there at once.
Question: who on that roster is going to get a rebound to start our fast break?
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Howard is 5'11" but with elite skills (especially shooting/scoring). He plays the 2 in high school because there is another elite PG on the team. I assume he wants to play basketball after college and the only position a 5'11" guy can play (even in Europe) is PG. Indiana and Baylor (and maybe others) have huge voids at PG next year and are offering the keys to this kid from day one. Hopefully we're recruiting him the same way. Our backcourt is crowded at the 2/3 but not at the point. Our only PG is Traci and when he starts he's the worst starting PG in the conference. If this kid is half the player everyone makes him out to be he gets 30 minutes from the jump and Traci get no more than 10.
Traci would, and should, still get over 20 MPG next year even with Howard starting at the 1. Howard can move off the ball and be a scorer as well.
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Traci would, and should, still get over 20 MPG next year even with Howard starting at the 1. Howard can move off the ball and be a scorer as well.
Not sure if we'd ever have a need for both of them on the court at the same time, except maybe late game press breaks (we stink at them). But I'm just gonna save any more thought being put into this until the kid makes a decision. Fun to think about though.
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Why should Traci Carter get any minutes, what has he done lately to deserve much playing time?? By his junior, I expect much improvement, but after 25 games
I see none.
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Traci would, and should, still get over 20 MPG next year even with Howard starting at the 1. Howard can move off the ball and be a scorer as well.
Why? I mean, why move Howard to a position where we have good players (Duane, Hanif, JJJ, and maybe Rowsey) so that a not good player (Traci) can get 20+ minutes)?
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Why? I mean, why move Howard to a position where we have good players (Duane, Hanif, JJJ, and maybe Rowsey) so that a not good player (Traci) can get 20+ minutes)?
Traci is a good player for a freshman point guard. He will improve maybe more than anybody else on this team this offseason. Next year he won't be thrown off by the speed and physicality of the game. And he will be our best perimeter defender.
And Wojo has shown a willingness to go small ball, throwing in lineups this year of Luke or Hank along with JJJ, Duane, Traci, and Cheatham (happened in at least 1 of, if not both, the games in Brooklyn this year). It'll be about matchups and situations. I would love to see a guy like Howard who can score from anywhere on the floor in the game with Carter who has shown an ability to get into the paint and an ability to distribute, particularly to other perimeter players.
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Traci is a good player for a freshman point guard. He will improve maybe more than anybody else on this team this offseason. Next year he won't be thrown off by the speed and physicality of the game. And he will be our best perimeter defender.
And Wojo has shown a willingness to go small ball, throwing in lineups this year of Luke or Hank along with JJJ, Duane, Traci, and Cheatham (happened in at least 1 of, if not both, the games in Brooklyn this year). It'll be about matchups and situations. I would love to see a guy like Howard who can score from anywhere on the floor in the game with Carter who has shown an ability to get into the paint and an ability to distribute, particularly to other perimeter players.
Hope you're right but as of now Traci is nothing more than a quicker but less physical and more mistake prone version of Derrick. Scoop won't survive another 3 years of MU playing 4 on 5 on offense.
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Hope you're right but as of now Traci is nothing more than a quicker but less physical and more mistake prone version of Derrick. Scoop won't survive another 3 years of MU playing 4 on 5 on offense.
If Traci can get a jump shot he will be fine. But if not, that's a fair comparison.
33 % FG / 29 % 3P.
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Traci is a good player for a freshman point guard. He will improve maybe more than anybody else on this team this offseason. Next year he won't be thrown off by the speed and physicality of the game. And he will be our best perimeter defender.
And Wojo has shown a willingness to go small ball, throwing in lineups this year of Luke or Hank along with JJJ, Duane, Traci, and Cheatham (happened in at least 1 of, if not both, the games in Brooklyn this year). It'll be about matchups and situations. I would love to see a guy like Howard who can score from anywhere on the floor in the game with Carter who has shown an ability to get into the paint and an ability to distribute, particularly to other perimeter players.
Or you can just let Howard play with Duane and JJJ.
Now you've got 3 guards who can score.
JJJ can drive and distribute. And Duane is also pretty good at distributing when that becomes his focus.
That's a scary back court(along with Haanif).
Traci should back up Howard.
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If Traci can get a jump shot he will be fine. But if not, that's a fair comparison.
33 % FG / 29 % 3P.
Yeah all Traci has on Derrick right now is being a better shooter which doesn't say much. Traci when he misses his 3s usually is pretty on target at least. Derrick had awful misses routinely.
Derrick was still a better FG% guy cuz he made his lay ups for most part
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Yeah all Traci has on Derrick right now is being a better shooter which doesn't say much. Traci when he misses his 3s usually is pretty on target at least. Derrick had awful misses routinely.
Derrick was still a better FG% guy cuz he made his lay ups for most part
Traci is so much quicker and creates alot more opportunities for his teammates than Derrick did. Derrick was the superior defender, by far. Other than the low shooting percentages they are nothing alike.
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Traci has no idea how to play D. He is also good for one if not two head scratching passes every single game.
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If Howard comes I would expect that he and Rowsey will share the pg duties.
Carter might be a good RS candidate with HC and Duane around to be the 3rd pg if needed.
I will be shocked if Hauser red shirts.
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Fellow warriors and warriorettes I think we are all getting ahead of ourselves. I am not sure that MH will be at MU next year.. Lets look at the odds
1. reclassifies for 2016 (90%)
2. Chooses MU over other options. 30%
a. IU 40%
b. Baylor 20%
c. ASU 10%
0.9 x 0.3 = 27% chance.
Also these are just my guesses, no specific info that I have. I wish he was coming here last and not first.
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Fellow warriors and warriorettes I think we are all getting ahead of ourselves. I am not sure that MH will be at MU next year.. Lets look at the odds
1. reclassifies for 2016 (90%)
2. Chooses MU over other options. 30%
a. IU 40%
b. Baylor 20%
c. ASU 10%
0.9 x 0.3 = 27% chance.
Also these are just my guesses, no specific info that I have. I wish he was coming here last and not first.
Thanks for getting us back on track, Big Daddy. Rarely do 4+ page threads stay on topic. Good luck to Marcus as he considers his options. We're here and will welcome him, given the opportunity.
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Why should Traci Carter get any minutes, what has he done lately to deserve much playing time?? By his junior, I expect much improvement, but after 25 games
I see none.
Umm, how about saving the victory over St. Johns by breaking the press?
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Right now, 21 games into his freshman season, Traci is a significantly better offensive player than Derrick was as a senior.
Not only can TC break a press just as well, but he makes more than 70% of his FTs if fouled. He can drive and kick, something Derrick did about 3 times the entire season. He at least has a chance at making a 3.
Defensively, Derrick obviously was better, but let's see how Traci improves there by the time he is a junior or senior.
Having said all that, and honestly believing Traci could turn out to be a nice player, if you have the chance to upgrade you do. Period.
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Umm, how about saving the victory over St. Johns by breaking the press?
I would say the coach saved the game by having the ball go over the top, vs. getting stuck in the corner, which was bad coaching. Beating St. Johns is no great shake,
they were up 20, then only up 4 as all the players were throwing the ball all over the place. Traci will get better, but I can only say that in the Big East, Traci ranks as
#10. Long way to go, barely got off the bench in the second half against Stetson. Also, Traci made the best pass of the year to Sandi for a nice dunk. Just does not
make enough good plays to warrant minutes. I want my point guard to score a minimum of 10 points a game or more, they should, they have the ball 50% of the time
and touch it everytime down the court. Hoping for Howard!
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I would say the coach saved the game by having the ball go over the top, vs. getting stuck in the corner, which was bad coaching. Beating St. Johns is no great shake,
they were up 20, then only up 4 as all the players were throwing the ball all over the place. Traci will get better, but I can only say that in the Big East, Traci ranks as
#10. Long way to go, barely got off the bench in the second half against Stetson. Also, Traci made the best pass of the year to Sandi for a nice dunk. Just does not
make enough good plays to warrant minutes. I want my point guard to score a minimum of 10 points a game or more, they should, they have the ball 50% of the time
and touch it everytime down the court. Hoping for Howard!
I think realistic expectations for Traci, if we don't get Howard, is for him to be a better version of Cadougan. Cadougan wasn't a prolific scorer and certainly had his share of facepalm turnovers, but he could hit shots (ahh, that UConn buzzer beater) and generally ran the offense well. Traci will be a better facilitator then Junior and hopefully will become as much if not more of a threat to score than JC was.
Of course, if we get Howard, this projection changes drastically.
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I hope we land Howard too. Time will tell. But this would be a legitimate example of 'recruiting over' the current incumbent. I have no problem with that.
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I think realistic expectations for Traci, if we don't get Howard, is for him to be a better version of Cadougan. Cadougan wasn't a prolific scorer and certainly had his share of facepalm turnovers, but he could hit shots (ahh, that UConn buzzer beater) and generally ran the offense well. Traci will be a better facilitator then Junior and hopefully will become as much if not more of a threat to score than JC was.
Of course, if we get Howard, this projection changes drastically.
I agree on that, Junior improved as he got older and was able to score at times. Traci can get into the lane at times but is not sure about his ability to score once
there, once he has confidence to do that, he will be an asset instead of a liability.
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I hope we land Howard too. Time will tell. But this would be a legitimate example of 'recruiting over' the current incumbent. I have no problem with that.
Isn't "recruiting over" more about getting a commit, and then getting another commit in the same class that plays the same position?
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Isn't "recruiting over" more about getting a commit, and then getting another commit in the same class that plays the same position?
That's definitely an example of it, but I also think it applies current players. In this case especially, it seemed as if Carter was tabbed as PG of the future for MU, a title that most fans would willingly give to Howard should he commit.
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That's definitely an example of it, but I also think it applies current players. In this case especially, it seemed as if Carter was tabbed as PG of the future for MU, a title that most fans would willingly give to Howard should he commit.
I think coaches just want competitions at positions. Though the concept of "recruiting over" may cross their minds, I think they would be just as pleased if the incumbent outplayed the commit to keep his position. At the end of the day, in this context, the idea is just a narrative spun more by fans.
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I think coaches just want competitions at positions. Though the concept of "recruiting over" may cross their minds, I think they would be just as pleased if the incumbent outplayed the commit to keep his position. At the end of the day, in this context, the idea is just a narrative spun more by fans.
I agree. And players should be informed enough to know that coaches aren't going to wait another 4 years to recruit their position, so they shouldn't be surprised or put off by it.
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That's definitely an example of it, but I also think it applies current players. In this case especially, it seemed as if Carter was tabbed as PG of the future for MU, a title that most fans would willingly give to Howard should he commit.
What do you expect them to do? Recruit only players that are worse than the ones we currently have? Doesn't seem like a particularly strong recipe for success...
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What do you expect them to do? Recruit only players that are worse than the ones we currently have? Doesn't seem like a particularly strong recipe for success...
Bingo. The "future" was now because we had no point guard. Traci had the opportunity to make that position his for the next 4 years. Had he done that Markus Howard wouldn't be our #1 priority. But because we still have a gaping hole at that position, Howard is.
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Bingo. The "future" was now because we had no point guard. Traci had the opportunity to make that position his for the next 4 years. Had he done that Markus Howard wouldn't be our #1 priority. But because we still have a gaping hole at that position, Howard is.
Or Howard's our #1 priority because he is an incredibly talented basketball player who already committed essentially to a coach that is now on our staff, so we're taking advantage of that and trying to get more talent on the team.
If we simply put recruiting priority based solely on needs of the team then a PF would be our #1 priority.
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Or Howard's our #1 priority because he is an incredibly talented basketball player who already committed essentially to a coach that is now on our staff, so we're taking advantage of that and trying to get more talent on the team.
If we simply put recruiting priority based solely on needs of the team then a PF would be our #1 priority.
PF is the #1 priority, but if you feel Howard has given a soft verbal to SJ that is even better. My concern is that the last 2 recruits possibly came from SJ, what are the
other coaches doing to bring in new talent?
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Isn't "recruiting over" more about getting a commit, and then getting another commit in the same class that plays the same position?
You're probably right. I guess one year removed is a little more of a stretch.
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PF is the #1 priority, but if you feel Howard has given a soft verbal to SJ that is even better. My concern is that the last 2 recruits possibly came from SJ, what are the
other coaches doing to bring in new talent?
What are you concerned about? They are recruiting, especially Nelson who did a lot of the work on Cheatham and Carter.
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PF is the #1 priority, but if you feel Howard has given a soft verbal to SJ that is even better. My concern is that the last 2 recruits possibly came from SJ, what are the
other coaches doing to bring in new talent?
I meant that Howard essentially committed to Stan Johnson when Stan was at ASU last year. Now Stan is at Marquette and Howard has decommitted from ASU.
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Or Howard's our #1 priority because he is an incredibly talented basketball player who already committed essentially to a coach that is now on our staff, so we're taking advantage of that and trying to get more talent on the team.
If we simply put recruiting priority based solely on needs of the team then a PF would be our #1 priority.
Wades - IMO, right now PG is our #1 priority Carter is our only guy there and is substandard. We have 2 centers and a bunch of 2/3s. PF becomes our #1 priority if/when Henry decides to leave. of course at that point we have 2 scholarships open - one for Howard and one for a PF - and both can be instant starters.
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Wades - IMO, right now PG is our #1 priority Carter is our only guy there and is substandard. We have 2 centers and a bunch of 2/3s. PF becomes our #1 priority if/when Henry decides to leave. of course at that point we have 2 scholarships open - one for Howard and one for a PF - and both can be instant starters.
Are people still holding out hope that he's staying?
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Are people still holding out hope that he's staying?
Don't know. My point is that if he goes we have TWO scholarships to give out - one for Howard and one for Henry's replacement.
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Wades - IMO, right now PG is our #1 priority Carter is our only guy there and is substandard. We have 2 centers and a bunch of 2/3s. PF becomes our #1 priority if/when Henry decides to leave. of course at that point we have 2 scholarships open - one for Howard and one for a PF - and both can be instant starters.
Agreed. And I think we have a great shot at Howard, and probably less of a chance with Bruno Fernando. But everyone is talking about the logjam we have at guard. I don't see it, really. We have more of a logjam at the wing position.
Do we need another PF for next year? Yes, absolutely. But there should be enough playing time at guard for everyone
PG - Howard(?), Carter, Rowsey
SG - Wilson, Cheatham, Rowsey
SF - Cheatham, Johnson, Cohen, W. Ellenson, Anim
PF - Johnson, Cohen, W. Ellenson, Anim
C - Fischer - Heldt
Unless we get Fernando or a grad transfer 4, I would expect a lot of 4 out 1 in next year
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Surprised at the negativity on this board on Traci Carter. Heck, he's only a freshman, who plays hard. Perhaps he plAys too selfishly and should shoot more. I like him and think with our great coaching, he will be a great Warrior.
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Surprised at the negativity on this board on Traci Carter. Heck, he's only a freshman, who plays hard. Perhaps he plAys too selfishly and should shoot more. I like him and think with our great coaching, he will be a great Warrior.
Agreed. His mistakes primarily come from aggression. That's a good thing, he can learn how to reign that in. He's got a decent feel for the game, and plays really hard.
Not all freshmen PGs are Dominic James or Tony Miller. It takes time.
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Two concerns regarding Carter. First, he seemingly can't defend without getting in foul trouble. Second, he can't score. Derrick had a better FG% last year because he can get to the rim. Traci just can't seem to score from anywhere.
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Two concerns regarding Carter. First, he seemingly can't defend without getting in foul trouble. Second, he can't score. Derrick had a better FG% last year because he can get to the rim. Traci just can't seem to score from anywhere.
Bingo. He can't defend and he can't score......other than that he's great.
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Bingo. He can't defend and he can't score......other than that he's great.
Outside of maybe Sandy he's our best perimeter man to man defender.
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Two concerns regarding Carter. First, he seemingly can't defend without getting in foul trouble. Second, he can't score. Derrick had a better FG% last year because he can get to the rim. Traci just can't seem to score from anywhere.
Traci looks the part, but the game is too fast for him right now. It reminds me of Vander freshman and sophomore year where he knew what to do but could never finish. Believe me Traci is not ready to be the starting PG - but I dont think I would write him off.
Defense wise he seems very serviceable -- just needs to foul less.
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Bingo. He can't defend and he can't score......other than that he's great.
But that doesn't mean that he won't be able to improve in either area. And Frenn's is right. He is playing too fast and tempo is a problem.
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Two concerns regarding Carter. First, he seemingly can't defend without getting in foul trouble. Second, he can't score. Derrick had a better FG% last year because he can get to the rim. Traci just can't seem to score from anywhere.
carter has a higher ceiling than d. wilson, imho...so i'm willing to go through some growing pains. we obviously need another pg on this team...but if carter puts in the work over the summer i think he could take a nice step forward next year.
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Agreed. And I think we have a great shot at Howard, and probably less of a chance with Bruno Fernando. But everyone is talking about the logjam we have at guard. I don't see it, really. We have more of a logjam at the wing position.
Do we need another PF for next year? Yes, absolutely. But there should be enough playing time at guard for everyone
PG - Howard(?), Carter, Rowsey
SG - Wilson, Cheatham, Rowsey
SF - Cheatham, Johnson, Cohen, W. Ellenson, Anim
PF - Johnson, Cohen, W. Ellenson, Anim
C - Fischer - Heldt
Unless we get Fernando or a grad transfer 4, I would expect a lot of 4 out 1 in next year
Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards. Oh my......
Then when Fischer gets in foul trouble (almost every game) Heldt will come in and get two offensive screens calls within four minutes.
The team needs a PF after Henry leaves. I realize the point guard situation is not currently the best, but is it adequate, because the PF position will not be. With Rowsey's arrival next year, the squad has numerous guards who will be fighting for playing time. If MU does obtain a commitment from another PG, I would not be shocked if one of the current ones left for being recruited over. Who knows.......
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But that doesn't mean that he won't be able to improve in either area. And Frenn's is right. He is playing too fast and tempo is a problem.
I agree he CAN improve especially on the offensive--and believe he will. He has very little defensive IQ and those concepts are much more difficult to grasp than an improved jump shot.
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Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards.
(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-JO765_0814hi_G_20100814162559.jpg)
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(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-JO765_0814hi_G_20100814162559.jpg)
Is anyone else obsessed with Bentil?
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Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards. Oh my......
This is what scares me as well. I'll add in two more freshman who would be matchup nightmares: Omari Spellman (Nova) & Thon Maker (likely visiting St John's again).
I want MH. But wouldn't be disappointed if we missed & landed two athletic or thick PF/C types
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I agree he CAN improve especially on the offensive--and believe he will. He has very little defensive IQ and those concepts are much more difficult to grasp than an improved jump shot.
Yep. He mainly just goes for steals. Gets them sometimes, but when he doesn't he fouls or gets beat.
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Traci looks the part, but the game is too fast for him right now. It reminds me of Vander freshman and sophomore year where he knew what to do but could never finish. Believe me Traci is not ready to be the starting PG - but I dont think I would write him off.
Defense wise he seems very serviceable -- just needs to foul less.
Right now, we're at that point where he plays because our options are so limited. But I agree in not writing him off. His shooting may not be there, but he doesn't lack confidence and his three point shooting is decent. He also has good vision for a PG. You can see he knows what he wants to do and where he wants to get guys the ball, he just sometimes doesn't know what he can and can't get away with. That entry pass to Luke (horrible angle turnover) in the St. John's game was a perfect example. In 1-2 years, I doubt he will be trying that.
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Right now, we're at that point where he plays because our options are so limited. But I agree in not writing him off. His shooting may not be there, but he doesn't lack confidence and his three point shooting is decent. He also has good vision for a PG. You can see he knows what he wants to do and where he wants to get guys the ball, he just sometimes doesn't know what he can and can't get away with. That entry pass to Luke (horrible angle turnover) in the St. John's game was a perfect example. In 1-2 years, I doubt he will be trying that.
I wouldn't write him off, either. But I wouldn't hitch my future to him.
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A little perspective.
Carter has played 474 minutes and has been called for 60 fouls.
Derrick Wilson as a freshmen played 292 minutes and in significantly less time was called for 51 fouls.
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When TC came aboard my hope was we wouldnt compare him to DWILL. I do hope the pg next year makes that stride and becomes a PG we all desire.
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When TC came aboard my hope was we wouldnt compare him to DWILL. I do hope the pg next year makes that stride and becomes a PG we all desire.
Nature of the beast, we have long defined our program by our point guards. I was one of Derrick's few fans, and I think Traci will become significantly better than Derrick was. He's playing like a freshman. I can live with that. I fully believe that he will be at worst the best PG we have had since Maurice Acker, and likely exceed Acker as well.
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Traci is already better than junior year Derrick. I wouldn't worry about Traci playing at Derrick Wilson levels of ineptitude.
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Traci is a promising freshman player, that said I have never comfortable with him getting starter minutes. I think at 10-15 minutes this year he can be most effective. I believe has upside from here though. He is quick and understands the point guard position in the classic sense. I think over time his judgement offensively and defensively will improve and he will become a more effective player. One thing I do like is that he can shoot free throws at an appropriate level for a point guard 72.2%.
Rowsey is a proven success at the D1 level. He has had a year to get stronger, work on his skills and practice with the team. I think many are underestimating what he brings to the table. Yes I realize most of his games were at the mid major level, however as Stephen Bardo pointed out several time this year the mid major guys are still scholarship D1 players and playing to compete.
Between Carter and Rowsey we will get some quality minutes at the PG next year. If we get Howard it would be a great addition if he is even a fraction of the hype. However, I would still rather see us get a stud rebounder with the last scholarship or two if Henry goes. We play in the Big East which in Wojo's words is a Mans conference.
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Traci is a promising freshman player, that said I have never comfortable with him getting starter minutes. I think at 10-15 minutes this year he can be most effective. I believe has upside from here though. He is quick and understands the point guard position in the classic sense. I think over time his judgement offensively and defensively will improve and he will become a more effective player. One thing I do like is that he can shoot free throws at an appropriate level for a point guard 72.2%.
Rowsey is a proven success at the D1 level. He has had a year to get stronger, work on his skills and practice with the team. I think many are underestimating what he brings to the table. Yes I realize most of his games were at the mid major level, however as Stephen Bardo pointed out several time this year the mid major guys are still scholarship D1 players and playing to compete.
Between Carter and Rowsey we will get some quality minutes at the PG next year. If we get Howard it would be a great addition if he is even a fraction of the hype. However, I would still rather see us get a stud rebounder with the last scholarship or two if Henry goes. We play in the Big East which in Wojo's words is a Mans conference.
I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.
...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.
Should be interesting.
I think he can be a player for us.
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Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards. Oh my......
Then when Fischer gets in foul trouble (almost every game) Heldt will come in and get two offensive screens calls within four minutes.
The team needs a PF after Henry leaves. I realize the point guard situation is not currently the best, but is it adequate, because the PF position will not be. With Rowsey's arrival next year, the squad has numerous guards who will be fighting for playing time. If MU does obtain a commitment from another PG, I would not be shocked if one of the current ones left for being recruited over. Who knows.......
Marquette was at its best when it was undersized. I'll take my chances.
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I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.
...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.
Should be interesting.
I think he can be a player for us.
Who was the last guy to shoot 45% from 3? Steve Novak? Yeah, I would also take that.
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Who was the last guy to shoot 45% from 3? Steve Novak? Yeah, I would also take that.
Maurice Acker shot 49.5% from beyond the arc in 2010. DJO was 47.4% from deep the same season.
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I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.
...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.
Should be interesting.
I think he can be a player for us.
What eFG% are you looking for? Or is that only significant for team stats?
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Maurice Acker shot 49.5% from beyond the arc in 2010. DJO was 47.4% from deep the same season.
Gotcha--thanks.
45% from Rowsey would be way more than I would expect, but man would that be a nice change.
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What eFG% are you looking for? Or is that only significant for team stats?
eFG% is critical always. Talking about FG% is foolish. Talking about the individual components of eFG% is smart.
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Traci is already better than junior year Derrick. I wouldn't worry about Traci playing at Derrick Wilson levels of ineptitude.
Ahem
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We've got to be the front runners now!!!
Big win for us. And Indiana almost lost to the gophers at home!!!
Should be any day now that he commits.
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Ahem
Traci shot it great today - without him we lose.