Sacar Amin

[MU62]

I hope to see more of him in the near future.  If this has already been addressed I have missed it.  Hope he is on the right track unless he is  injured to get more minutes - especially against teams we are currently facing. 

[79Warrior]

I hope to see more of him in the near future.  If this has already been addressed I have missed it.  Hope he is on the right track unless he is  injured to get more minutes - especially against teams we are currently facing.

He will get minutes if Wojo feels he deserves them. Pretty simple.

[MUMBA]

From what I gathered from Wojos post game comments, the lead shrank from 26 to 13 fairly quickly, which pinched Sacar's potential for playing time.  If I recall correctly, Matt H was getting some minutes around that time frame.  I figured Sacar was next off the bench.  But when the lead got down to 13, we went back with Fischer and crew.  So I'm not really reading into the lack of PT.  I think Wojo simply wanted to lock down the win at that point.     

[Marquette_g]

Nothing against Sacar at all, because I believe he will develop into a nice player, however I think the team has played better when they have stuck with an 8 man rotation.  There seems to be more continuity with the smaller bench.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Nothing against Sacar at all, because I believe he will develop into a nice player, however I think the team has played better when they have stuck with an 8 man rotation.  There seems to be more continuity with the smaller bench.

+1 -- One problem with the early season M2M defense was too many player combos and roles for kids who were having trouble just learning their primary role on defense.  I think cutting down the rotation has contributed to the improvement in the M2M defense.  There are times when our guys are still trying to figure out who throws the ball to Traci after a basket let alone all the complexities of help defense and switches.

[bilsu]

Sacar used to play ahead of Heldt and Wally. Wally has moved into the 8 man rotation replacing Anim. While Heldt has not played much, he did play the last game and he played in at least one game in New York.

[mug644]

Sacar used to play ahead of Heldt and Wally. Wally has moved into the 8 man rotation replacing Anim. While Heldt has not played much, he did play the last game and he played in at least one game in New York.

There's some pretty easy logic to this reality, in that Heldt is really next on the depth chart after Luke and Henry when we need to play with size, or either of those guys has foul trouble. And, Sacar is among a crowd when playing a bit smaller, and Wally has some D-1 experience (including a year playing and a year sitting out, though practicing) under his belt. I've come to accept that, in all likelihood, this will be a learning and growing year for Anim, with limited playing time. Still, his play in Europe and his 'look' so far, give me hope about his contributions to MU in the future.

[Herman Cain]

Would like to see Sacar get as many minutes as possible versus the cupcakes.

[Nukem2]

Would like to see Sacar get as many minutes as possible versus the cupcakes.

Jackson State was a cupcake.  Opportunity missed.

[rocky_warrior]

Jackson State was a cupcake.  Opportunity missed.

Yes...but...they were a low-fat cupcake.  Around 200 calories per kenpom.  The other cupcakes will be of the high fat variety (300-360 calories per kenpom).

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Yes...but...they were a low-fat cupcake.  Around 200 calories per kenpom.  The other cupcakes will be of the high fat variety (300-360 calories per kenpom).

That may be my new favorite analogy.

[Nukem2]

Yes...but...they were a low-fat cupcake.  Around 200 calories per kenpom.  The other cupcakes will be of the high fat variety (300-360 calories per kenpom).

They will end up sub-300.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

They will end up sub-300.

Could be wrong but I don't think so. I think they end up around 250. Them and Texas Southern are easily the best squads in the swac

[barfolomew]

Could be wrong but I don't think so. I think they end up around 250. Them and Texas Southern are easily the best squads in the swac

JayBee welcomes you aboard the Texas Southern bandwagon.   

[rocky_warrior]

They will end up sub-300.

Odds are between 210-250...
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Jackson%20St..html

[barfolomew]

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Marquette.html

That site provides a sobering model for MU -- a little over 2% chance of finishing with 20 wins or more.
71% chance of finishing with between 14 and 17 wins.

[rocky_warrior]

That site provides a sobering model for MU -- a little over 2% chance of finishing with 20 wins or more.
71% chance of finishing with between 14 and 17 wins.

Agreed - I clicked on MU after I posted the link,and didn't like what I saw.   But honestly, I don't expect Jackson State to get near 300 rpi, and it provided data to back up my belief

So wait...this thread is about Anim.  Hopefully he gets minutes against the fatty cupcakes.

[BM1090]

That site provides a sobering model for MU -- a little over 2% chance of finishing with 20 wins or more.
71% chance of finishing with between 14 and 17 wins.

Those probabilities are  just based on our current RPI. If we take care of the cupcakes (and UW) then the %'s will go up substantially.

[barfolomew]

Those probabilities are  just based on our current RPI. If we take care of the cupcakes (and UW) then the %'s will go up substantially.

RPI currently 161 on that site (using Sagarin).
If we beat the remaining cupcakes and Wisc, projected RPI will be 143.
Beat cupcakes but lose to Wisc, projected RPI will be 173.

All things considered, a W in Madison would be a welcome sight for many reasons.

And Rocky is right; shame on us!
This is Sacar's thread, and even here he's riding the pine.

Hope the young man gets in against Grambling. Like to see hard workers get rewarded.

[bilsu]

Would like to see Sacar get as many minutes as possible versus the cupcakes.

The problem is that we have 5 freshmen that need to get as much experience as possible.

[jsglow]

The problem is that we have 5 freshmen that need to get as much experience as possible.

Totally agree.  And at the moment (I think correctly) Wojo has decided that 3 of them will get max minutes in an effort to accelerate their learning curve.  This isn't a democracy.  Sacar will be getting very minor minutes unless more are earned in the practice gym.

[esotericmindguy]

Didn't watch the first two games, so I haven't seen Sacar play. I have seen Wally play and it's not pretty. He offers nothing offensively and continually gets beat off the dribble. He does play with a lot of energy, I'll give him that. Wally does rebound fairly well. Sacar must struggle rebounding, otherwise he'd be playing.

[MUMountin]

Those probabilities are  just based on our current RPI. If we take care of the cupcakes (and UW) then the %'s will go up substantially.

Not to nitpick, but the win probabilities on RPIForecast are based off of Sagarin's predictor, not based off of RPI. 

A win against UW would change our projected wins (both directly, since that is currently projected as a L, changing it to a W; and indirectly, as it will change our Sagarin rating and therefore might swing some currently projected close losses to wins).

Taking care of business against the cupcakes, however, will not likely change our predictions much, as we are currently expected to win all the rest of our nonconference games handily (by 16-24 points).  So really, in terms of these numbers, we won't really know much more about this team until we get into the BE schedule (other than if we pull out a W out of Madison).

[MU82]

Didn't watch the first two games, so I haven't seen Sacar play. I have seen Wally play and it's not pretty. He offers nothing offensively and continually gets beat off the dribble. He does play with a lot of energy, I'll give him that. Wally does rebound fairly well. Sacar must struggle rebounding, otherwise he'd be playing.

Based on what we've seen so far, I'd have to agree. Wally reminds me of a sophomore Juan Anderson. Lots of energy but toward what end?

I'd like to see Sacar a little more because he is more our future ... unless playing Wally a few more mins a game keeps Henry around for another year. In which case I'm all for Sacar riding the pine!

[bilsu]

Anim has been mostly playing power forward. There is not much future for a 6'4' 6'5' power forward. Anim can play 2g and small forward, but that is held by Haanif and Cohen. I like Anim, but to say he is our future might be an overstatement.

[MarquetteDano]

Anim has been mostly playing power forward. There is not much future for a 6'4' 6'5' power forward. Anim can play 2g and small forward, but that is held by Haanif and Cohen. I like Anim, but to say he is our future might be an overstatement.

Not all teams have a physical 6'8" power forward. Anim seems like a decent defender.  I think he can guard an undersized or non-physical 4  position.

I have a funny feeling he will be called upon in a critical game or two thIs year for his defense on a big "3" or small "4".

[GGGG]

Based on what we've seen so far, I'd have to agree. Wally reminds me of a sophomore Juan Anderson. Lots of energy but toward what end?

I'd like to see Sacar a little more because he is more our future ... unless playing Wally a few more mins a game keeps Henry around for another year. In which case I'm all for Sacar riding the pine!

I think Wally has been OK.  I haven't seen enough of Sacar to make a determination if he is better or worse at this point.  There always seems to be a freshman that doesn't quite meet expectations - either because they aren't as good as expected and/or they don't quite know how to practice and do the other work that is expected of them.  Sacar might be that player right now. 

[jsglow]

I think Wally has been OK.  I haven't seen enough of Sacar to make a determination if he is better or worse at this point.  There always seems to be a freshman that doesn't quite meet expectations - either because they aren't as good as expected and/or they don't quite know how to practice and do the other work that is expected of them.  Sacar might be that player right now.

I agree.  Wally's been fine.  Good position rebounder so far.  He'll contribute this year and may be ahead of Sacar on the depth chart.

[brewcity77]

Could be wrong but I don't think so. I think they end up around 250. Them and Texas Southern are easily the best squads in the swac

I'm not so sure about this. Jackson State beat two bad teams and played within 20 of Baylor. Personally, I think Southern is best positioned to challenge TSU.

[Marqevans]

I agree.  Wally's been fine.  Good position rebounder so far.  He'll contribute this year and may be ahead of Sacar on the depth chart.

Was really impressed how high he jumped on an attempted block. Unfortunately he banged his hand on the underside of the rim.

[We R Final Four]

From a developmental standpoint,  Matt heldt needs the most on court experience that we can offer. Foul trouble will certainly find its way to Luke and MH will be the one who is called upon during the conference season late in the first half or for spurts in the second half.  His ability to hold down the fort will certainly have a bigger impact on the outcome of games than Sacar.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Patience lads. Sacars time will come. He's been forced to play out of position a bit due to necessity. Several of his preseason interviews he mentioned that he didn't expect to get much run this year, but obviously hoped that he would. Let's not get negative here - he'll be a nice player for MU. Not every guy has to play every game.

That said, I fully expect him to get some minutes tonight.

[mu-rara]

Based on what we've seen so far, I'd have to agree. Wally reminds me of a sophomore Juan Anderson. Lots of energy but toward what end?

I'd like to see Sacar a little more because he is more our future ... unless playing Wally a few more mins a game keeps Henry around for another year. In which case I'm all for Sacar riding the pine!

I would have loved Juan playing a role like Wally.  He would have been great as energy off the bench.

[jsglow]

From a developmental standpoint,  Matt heldt needs the most on court experience that we can offer. Foul trouble will certainly find its way to Luke and MH will be the one who is called upon during the conference season late in the first half or for spurts in the second half.  His ability to hold down the fort will certainly have a bigger impact on the outcome of games than Sacar.

Excellent point.  And Matt at the moment seems furthest away from being able to contribute effectively.  Hoping he gets a solid full TV timeout run tonight.  He particularly needs to work on his pick/roll technique.  Matt doesn't need to score.  He needs to play D, rebound, and facilitate a little for his teammates.

I'd also like to see if Michael can contribute 'emergency minutes', if necessary.  But no doubt Sacar would be the next best option off the bench at literally any position, including the #5. 

[MUMountin]

Matt doesn't need to score.  He needs to play D, rebound, and facilitate a little for his teammates.

And not move on his screens--think he has already been called for two fouls on moving screens this season.

[bilsu]

I looked at the Iowa game stats to see, if there was a reason that Sacar was not playing. I was surprised to see that he play 9 minutes, which was less than everyone including Heldt. He was 1-2 from three point land for 3 points. There was nothing in the box score to indicate a reason he should not be playing. Of course box scores do not indicate, if he was missing defensive assignments.

[GooooMarquette]

Anim has been mostly playing power forward. There is not much future for a 6'4' 6'5' power forward. Anim can play 2g and small forward, but that is held by Haanif and Cohen. I like Anim, but to say he is our future might be an overstatement.

Agree that calling Sacar our "future" is an overstatement...but I think he'll play a much bigger role down the road than Wally.  (Unless, as one poster mentioned, Wally plays a role in keeping Henry around!)

[GGGG]

Agree that calling Sacar our "future" is an overstatement...but I think he'll play a much bigger role down the road than Wally.  (Unless, as one poster mentioned, Wally plays a role in keeping Henry around!)

But again, we are falling into this trap.  Marquette is playing to win games now.  Not to develop players for some future date down the road.  It's not as though Wally is playing huge minutes anyway.  Wojo probably trusts him ahead of Sacar right now and that's OK.

[mu-rara]

IIRC, Sacar was a late bloomer in HS also.  Didn't get a lot of attention until later.

R E L A X.

[warriorchick]

So am I the first one to notice that Sacar's name is spelled wrong in the thread title?  Like he is Idi's nephew or something?

[rocky_warrior]

So am I the first one to notice that Sacar's name is spelled wrong in the thread title?  Like he is Idi's nephew or something?

No - it's been bugging me and I keep thinking about fixing it - but have let it go.

[GooooMarquette]

But again, we are falling into this trap.  Marquette is playing to win games now.  Not to develop players for some future date down the road.  It's not as though Wally is playing huge minutes anyway.  Wojo probably trusts him ahead of Sacar right now and that's OK.

Totally agree that the focus needs to be on now, and that Wojo's trust is infinitely more important than my opinion.  I was more responding to the comment about Sacar being "the future" and my opinion on where things might stand next year. 

[GGGG]

So am I the first one to notice that Sacar's name is spelled wrong in the thread title?  Like he is Idi's nephew or something?

Well no wonder he's hasn't been playing.