MUScoop
MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Skatastrophy on April 16, 2012, 01:44:35 PM
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
This is ridiculous. I need Lunardi's job.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
This is ridiculous. I need Lunardi's job.
I see no fault with that. We are losing 55% of our scoring.
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What's everyone else's expectations for next year? Honestly, I'd be happy with just making the tourney next year. But the year after that could be really special.
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What's everyone else's expectations for next year? Honestly, I'd be happy with just making the tourney next year. But the year after that could be really special.
Before this season started, I thought we be better next season vs this season. However, this last season turned out to be better than I was expecting. I do not see us having as good of a season next year.
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My goal for next season is to be in position not to be a bubble team at tourney selection time. Barring some big additions there is a decent fall off for one season. We are still capable of making NCAA but not slam dunk IMO.
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I see no fault with that. We are losing 55% of our scoring.
You see no fault with releasing a bracket in April? Even before last-minute commitments and transfers are out?
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What's everyone else's expectations for next year? Honestly, I'd be happy with just making the tourney next year. But the year after that could be really special.
I think a combination of an even more down Big East coupled with us having far more talent than most fans are expecting will result in a season similar to the one we just witnessed, if we stay healthy. With CO and Jamil, we'll have one of the best shot-blocking frontcourts in the league. I think Gardner, Mayo, Blue, Jamil, and TJ could be double-digit scorers, and if Lockett ends up on board, our offense will be very hard to stop simply because we have so many guys that can score.
If Broeker can deliver a schedule similar to last year, there's every chance we could go 11-2 or better in non-con play. We should beat LSU and UW at home, and honestly, we might be the best team in Maui when you consider that UNC lost far more talent than we did. I don't expect 14-4 in Big East play, but the only team I see as clearly ahead of us is Louisville. After that, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Cincy, and Georgetown will all be scrapping. We could finish anywhere from 2-6 in the league, but regardless, I like our chances for a 12-6 type season. If we actually do some work at MSG, I think we can come into Selection Sunday with 23-25 wins and be in shape for a 3-4 seed.
I look at next year's team and the year after, and honestly, what will be different? One will have Cadougan, one won't. One will have Burton and Duane Wilson, one won't. But the rest of the cast will largely be the same, and I think that guys like Blue, Mayo, Gardner, Otule, Cadougan, and Jamil are ready to be studs now. Most fans will likely underrate us, but my early prediction would be going into Selection Sunday with a 24-9 (12-6) record and getting a 4-seed.
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You see no fault with releasing a bracket in April? Even before last-minute commitments and transfers are out?
Ahh, I thought you were taking umbrage with our 5 seed which I thought was generous.
Let's be honest, he releases it because it gets page views because fans of every team love looking to see where an "expert" thinks they will finish, no matter how incomplete the data or thought process.
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Let's be honest, he releases it because it gets page views because fans of every team love looking to see where an "expert" thinks they will finish, no matter how incomplete the data or thought process.
Exactly why I want his job. It's win-win. Nobody faults him for being wrong, he gets page views and he gets paid money for something MUScoop could toss together.
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Exactly why I want his job. It's win-win. Nobody faults him for being wrong, he gets page views and he gets paid money for something MUScoop could toss together.
Especially when he has MU and UW playing potentially in the second round, which wouldnt happen
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My expectation is to be a bubble team. This team is constantly exceeding my expectations though.
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Next year? I think we are a step ahead of the bubble, locking up a tourney spot the last week or two of the season. If we get Lockett, I think we are in the 5-8 range.
The year after? As has been posted, we lose Cadougan (I am a Caddy fan), possibly lose Lockett (I know, I know, he's not even on our roster yet), and gain Burton, Duane Wilson, plus a year of experience/growth/strength/speed for our entire roster. That's a potential final four team... if next year's team is a 5, I really, really like our shot the season after.
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In two years, Marquette should be in the top 10-15, at least, the majority of the year. I am giddy for 2013-14.
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Commence the "we wont be any good next year cause how can you replace Crowder and DJO"...
just like how MU could never replace James, matthews & mcneal, and then could never replace hayward and then could never replace jimmy butler.
It's called player development and some timely Juco's - Buzz has done it every year, don't know why the weenies here don't come to realize that...
MU fans are the kings of hedging their bets downward - say you don't expect much and then are happy with apparent over achievement - is this taught in the MU Logic class that I missed cause I was in Engineering school?
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Madtown Warrior
Are you saying we are a S16 team again next year? To be foolish enough to think that teams don't have down years is flat out crazy. What are your expectations for next season?
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Madtown Warrior
Are you saying we are a S16 team again next year? To be foolish enough to think that teams don't have down years is flat out crazy. What are your expectations for next season?
I WAS very optimistic about next year, until.....well let's just say the roster will not look like it does now unfortunately. Be prepared.....
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I WAS very optimistic about next year, until.....well let's just say the roster will not look like it does now unfortunately. Be prepared.....
Honestly, you just post this provocative statement without anything else. If you don't have the balls to say what you know don't even hint at anything.
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In guru's defense he got blasted every time he stated something during the SMU mess. Agree his post was a tease but guru was raked over the coals for posting unpopular comments. Nobody ever wants to hear anything aside from things on here.
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In guru's defense he got blasted every time he stated something during the SMU mess. Agree his post was a tease but guru was raked over the coals for posting unpopular comments. Nobody ever wants to hear anything aside from things on here.
All he has to do is state what he heard. At least then he wouldn't be leaving an open ended statement for all of us to debate which player won't be on the team next year for two more pages.
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All he has to do is state what he heard. At least then he wouldn't be leaving an open ended statement for all of us to debate which player won't be on the team next year for two more pages.
I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
Jeez. A little overdramatic don't you think? This is only college basketball after all.
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
wait, so the potential transfer killed a bunch of Japanese? That's not gonna play well in the papers and on espn.
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
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While Guru may have been a tad dramatic in his post, if true, will be very interesting. I have no reason to doubt his comments and do hope whole story comes out if kids are forced out. Would say if Buzz is chasing Lockett it would explain a lot.
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
Okay, let's see if I have the above quote straight. At least one, and possibly more, MU men's basketball players (either currently on the roster or LOI signers), will be dropped from the team before next season. Secondly, this action will be a coaching decision based upon basketball-related skills, or lack thereof (as opposed to academic/disciplinary/behavioral matters), and not a voluntary action by the player or players involved. Thirdly, this decision will prove to be wildly unpopular with almost everyone interested in MU basketball, including fans/students/JohnQPublic/university officials. Well now, when this "inside info" becomes public knowledge, it will certainly call into question the integrity, public reputation and trustworthiness of a number of somebodies or other, no? Boy, I'm planning to stay tuned, how 'bout you?
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
hmmmm, listening to Miles Davis 'kind of blue'
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Well guru previously stated "MU is now destined to be a SLU" or something to that effect and that did not happen...
In guru's defense he got blasted every time he stated something during the SMU mess. Agree his post was a tease but guru was raked over the coals for posting unpopular comments. Nobody ever wants to hear anything aside from things on here.
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INDIANA #1 OVERALL SEED :O
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You see no fault with releasing a bracket in April? Even before last-minute commitments and transfers are out?
In the journalism biz, it's called a "conversation-starter."
And, obviously, it worked.
It's not meant to be taken seriously. This isn't doing any actual reporting. It's just for fun and, again, conversation.
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Who the heck really knows?
2012 -- If Otule stays healthy, we're probably a 2 seed with as much depth as we ever had. I don't think we would have lost to Georgetown in Landover, LSU in Baton Rouge or Cincinnati in Cincinnati. God knows, we might have beaten Louisville at MSG.
2013 -- If everyone stays healthy, if Otule is fully back, if Blue continues his progress and if Jamil Wilson reaches his potential, and Juan steps up, we're going to be something to see. But we're one injury away from a bubble slot and two away from the NIT.
I like to think big but weird things happen. Go get 'em Buzz
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Best thing about his bracket. If we win the first game, we play the Red Rodent for the Sweet 16.
That's making me excited just thinking about it.
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
OMG! Todd Mayo's dad is making him transfer to Indiana.
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I will add this, and I am not going to name a player(s), because that wouldn't be fair to them at this moment, but just know this is NOT the player(s) decision. It also won't be a popular decision, when/if the real reason comes out, and I just hope the person(s), that essentially made this decision will be ready for the firestorm that is certain to ensue. You thought Hiroshima was bad?? Oh boy....
I'm sincere when I say I appreciate the insight, but what's the point if you don't name sources or POTENTIAL transfers? Seems like you are trying to start a s--tstorm for no reason. You know wild speculation will run rampant, and names of players who will not transfer out will be thrown around, which is not a good thing at all. I'm happy you have information, but being vague beyond vague is an interesting tactic...
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All he has to do is state what he heard. At least then he wouldn't be leaving an open ended statement for all of us to debate which player won't be on the team next year for two more pages.
Isn't blind, baseless speculation what we do best?
I'll bet he's talking about DJO being forced out, that videographic evidence was just too damning.
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I'm sincere when I say I appreciate the insight, but what's the point if you don't name sources or POTENTIAL transfers? Seems like you are trying to start a s--tstorm for no reason. You know wild speculation will run rampant, and names of players who will not transfer out will be thrown around, which is not a good thing at all. I'm happy you have information, but being vague beyond vague is an interesting tactic...
It's a message board. People hear things they don't like, they want to share, but they don't want to lose their source. If suddenly the knowledge they heard becomes completely public, maybe that source won't talk to them in the future. No, he's under no legal obligation as he (presumably) isn't a journalist, but that's just the nature of how an anonymous source works.
Granted, he could be making it up, but it's also possible he isn't. I find it interesting how when BigDaddy had his inside info, most people embraced it without need for further clarification, but when others (like muguru or goose) have theirs, people attack it. Guess it's one of those things where people accept good news without needing a source but don't do the same with bad news.
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BrewCity
Agreed on your post and not just because you mentioned me. Not sure why anyone would think that someone here most days wants to be the guy with bad news. I would much rather mention great recruiting news or whatever than bad news. Not sure if Muguru is right on his post but I will trust him to proven otherwise.
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In the journalism biz, it's called a "conversation-starter."
And, obviously, it worked.
It's not meant to be taken seriously. This isn't doing any actual reporting. It's just for fun and, again, conversation.
Agree, everyone knows its too early, Lundari himself. It's just fun to think about during the offseason.
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If Lunardi's doing such a great job, where's his bracket for the '14 tournament?
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muguru's info would have fit better in last month's narrative. Larry and Pilarz tell Buzz that they are going to retroactively punish players with alleged and reported transgressions by booting them. Buzz gets ticked. SMU comes calling. Stakes and voices are raised. Admin backs down realizing how unseemly it would be to punish for actions that occurred prior to their arrival. An uneasy detente descends. Not saying muguru is wrong. A symbolic expulsion by admin would open the door for Lockett to be added to the incoming class.
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Tower
Your comments make sense but I still think last months issues are still in play. Obviously things go on behind the scenes and you never know until happens. The school wants and needs to protect its image and that is their concern from what I have heard. I think if guru is right it is sold as a kid wanting to transfer and that is how it is sold. Guru wants facts to come out for fans to be pissed and I would agree. Unfortunately probably not how it happens.
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Okay, let's see if I have the above quote straight. At least one, and possibly more, MU men's basketball players (either currently on the roster or LOI signers), will be dropped from the team before next season. Secondly, this action will be a coaching decision based upon basketball-related skills, or lack thereof (as opposed to academic/disciplinary/behavioral matters), and not a voluntary action by the player or players involved. Thirdly, this decision will prove to be wildly unpopular with almost everyone interested in MU basketball, including fans/students/JohnQPublic/university officials. Well now, when this "inside info" becomes public knowledge, it will certainly call into question the integrity, public reputation and trustworthiness of a number of somebodies or other, no? Boy, I'm planning to stay tuned, how 'bout you?
I have no information, but I always felt that the reason Buzz was considering leaving (if he even was) was that the AD might be forcing him to get rid of certain players. Therefore, if someone is leaving not by choice, I do not think we can automatically assume it was Buzz's decision.
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It's a message board. People hear things they don't like, they want to share, but they don't want to lose their source. If suddenly the knowledge they heard becomes completely public, maybe that source won't talk to them in the future. No, he's under no legal obligation as he (presumably) isn't a journalist, but that's just the nature of how an anonymous source works.
Granted, he could be making it up, but it's also possible he isn't. I find it interesting how when BigDaddy had his inside info, most people embraced it without need for further clarification, but when others (like muguru or goose) have theirs, people attack it. Guess it's one of those things where people accept good news without needing a source but don't do the same with bad news.
The difference between Big Daddy and muguru is that Big Daddy named players, and said what was he thought was going to happen. Muguru is instead trying to start debate by not naming the players involved. If muguru listed the players involved without naming sources I would not criticize him. I understand that it is hard to name sources, but the names of players involved should not be a problem.
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muguru's info would have fit better in last month's narrative. Larry and Pilarz tell Buzz that they are going to retroactively punish players with alleged and reported transgressions by booting them. Buzz gets ticked. SMU comes calling. Stakes and voices are raised. Admin backs down realizing how unseemly it would be to punish for actions that occurred prior to their arrival. An uneasy detente descends. Not saying muguru is wrong. A symbolic expulsion by admin would open the door for Lockett to be added to the incoming class.
You did a good job tower of connecting dots here. Only, it's not "transgression" related. But you are on the right track with the rest of it.
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The difference between Big Daddy and muguru is that Big Daddy named players, and said what was he thought was going to happen. Muguru is instead trying to start debate by not naming the players involved. If muguru listed the players involved without naming sources I would not criticize him. I understand that it is hard to name sources, but the names of players involved should not be a problem.
Maybe not for you, but maybe it is for muguru. You have no idea under what circumstances he was told a player might be exploring options. Say hypothetically it was DJO (using a graduating senior so it's obviously not that guy). Maybe he knows a coaching staff member that told him DJO is looking into transferring but doesn't want it to be a distraction as he finishes up his studies, so not to mention it. Maybe he's friends with DJO, who told him that he doesn't feel comfortable and is looking to transfer, but doesn't want to answer questions about it for the next month, so please keep it quiet. Maybe he knows someone in administration, who thinks DJO's off-court issues are too much for MU to allow him to continue, but doesn't want to leak information before it's finalized because of the impending crapstorm that would undoubtedly ensue.
None of us have any idea if guru's info is true, but if it is, we also don't know under what circumstances and in what context he gained the information. Maybe he's stirring the pot, but maybe he's trying to be nice enough to prepare us for a blow to the program that may well be coming, but wants to do it in a way that doesn't jeopardize his source.
Honestly, if you were a player that might be looking to transfer or being told to transfer, would you want that to be the only thing you talked about for the next month until school ends? Because as soon as it came out on here, it'd spread like wildfire to the entire campus and people would be asking.
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You did a good job tower of connecting dots here. Only, it's not "transgression" related. But you are on the right track with the rest of it.
Not "transgression" related? What, then? Admission related? Academics related? Recruiting rules related?
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Not "transgression" related? What, then? Admission related? Academics related? Recruiting rules related?
Yes to one of those.
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If true, are the players also under interdict to stay off of social media?
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Madtown
MU could be SLU in a year if things went haywire. I think you have your head in the sand or looking to be difficult. Anytime anyone has a view that you do not agree with you are quick to jab them. Like I said a month ago, if anyone has 100% certain facts that differ from me or other posters please share them. Not one person on here had sources that made guru or I look completely out in left field.
I personally have not been optimistic about anything past this upcming season. Have posted about kids I hope we get but everytime in the back of my mind I am wondering about coaching situation long term. With the talent in area and Buzz's ability to recruit elsewhere we can be force down the road. Have said all along Buzz is my guy and hope he is here a long time.
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one player or as many as three
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one player or as many as three
All non-transgression related?
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OMG, c'mon gang let's go for it. What's the current record, 103 pages? "Ring out, ahoya," we can do it. I know we can!
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All non-transgression related?
Yes
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Any basketball-talent related?
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Well if guru is correct it might be a story worth 103 pages. Maybe the 103 page prior thread was moved prematurely. Would hope guru only would throw out teaser post with a sound foundation behind it.
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Well if guru is correct it might be a story worth 103 pages. Maybe the 103 page prior thread was moved prematurely. Would hope guru only would throw out teaser post with a sound foundation behind it.
If it's academic/admissions related then we can't really get all butthurt about it, unless they're all of the sudden applying a higher standard that didn't previously exist and giving zero tolerance.
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Or it is the third option mentioned. Would disagree that if there is force out it would be related to behavior, at least to some degree.
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Or it is the third option mentioned. Would disagree that if there is force out it would be related to behavior, at least to some degree.
That's what I would assume as well, but guru keeps saying not transgression related so I'm just spitballing ideas.
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Or it is the third option mentioned. Would disagree that if there is force out it would be related to behavior, at least to some degree.
If it's recruiting rules or admission related, I'd have some honest concerns. Seems that would almost certainly indicate something's going on that shouldn't be.
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Honestly, if you were a player that might be looking to transfer or being told to transfer, would you want that to be the only thing you talked about for the next month until school ends?
The original starter of these rumors is already a dick for feeling the need to say something, (because he/she apparently couldn't keep a secret when pressed about the accuracy of Lunardi's April Bracketology). I just don't understand why the originator would not name names, (because you're already a dick; you may as well go "all in).
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I'm going to agree with the posters who say what is the point of posting it with nothing concrete to say. I understand not wanting to upset your source, but how happy would your source be about starting rampant speculation either?
Maybe rampant isn't the best word considering it's just a message board visited by the same people.
Not saying I believe or don't believe, but I think the way it was delivered is why people got skeptical about it. Not even it's own topic, but in answering what seed do you think we'll be, it was like, 'you wouldn't be saying that if you knew what I knew' and walking away. It's just confusing.
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@KingMe_DJ1 If you got the text you already know! New start
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Part of the reason the last "issue" hit 103 pages was 70% of the posts were telling me, guru or anyone with similar opinion how stupid we are. The "issue" hit a nerve and most on here wanted to believe it was non "issue". Still going on in other threads regarding who broke the story Katz or IWB.
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C'mon, kids, I sense your enthusiasm is flagging. Three pages almost completed, only another hundred to go. We can do it, if we believe we can. Can't we?
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Still going on in other threads regarding who broke the story Katz or IWB.
Maybe, but 99% of people could care less who breaks a story, but just want to know what the story is. In this case, a tease is not a story. If people are fighting to break a story, they are fooling themselves if they think anybody cares or will remember who said it first.
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@KingMe_DJ1 If you got the text you already know! New start
I didn't get the text. What's that mean?
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I didn't get the text. What's that mean?
Me neither, but he sounds almost excited, not upset, and certainly not Hiroshima upset.
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Rushmore
I posted on here in late Jan that there was trouble behind the scenes and things were not as a perfect as we hoped. Could care less if I posted first or 109th on the topic, but you do need posters that can provide info beyond that reported in media. I think the debate or Katz or IWB is stupid and bashing IWB even bigger waste of time.
My point is simple, unfortunately a less than complete report from poster might be best they can do. I tried my best to give news without compromising people I respect. I would much rather have a tease post from someone in the know than another Durley update. If something is brewing would rather be teased now than shocked in a month.
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I would much rather have a tease post from someone in the know than another Durley update. If something is brewing would rather be teased now than shocked in a month.
Agree completely.
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Rushmore
I posted on here in late Jan that there was trouble behind the scenes and things were not as a perfect as we hoped. Could care less if I posted first or 109th on the topic, but you do need posters that can provide info beyond that reported in media. I think the debate or Katz or IWB is stupid and bashing IWB even bigger waste of time.
My point is simple, unfortunately a less than complete report from poster might be best they can do. I tried my best to give news without compromising people I respect. I would much rather have a tease post from someone in the know than another Durley update. If something is brewing would rather be teased now than shocked in a month.
To the first point, I was mistaken about that. My bad in the misunderstanding. Apologies.
As to the second point, I will respectfully disagree.
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If you look closely, I hinted at the same info guru has in the Lockett story, but didn't compare it to Hiroshima or make a gigantic, vague post about it.
http://painttouches.com/2012/04/10/rothstein-marquette-emerging-as-landing-spot-for-transfer-lockett/
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I didn't get the text. What's that mean?
I'm guessing an official invite to the combine...
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Strotty
If it a kid fails out it is black and white. I would be disappointed if we lost a kid to grades, especially with tutoring program we have, but definitely would not be pissed off. If Guru has something it is not academics.
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"With a solid, 210-pound frame, Lockett could play a Vander Blue-type role and has the athleticism to drive to the paint and guard multiple positions."
I'll take that as a hint.
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Part of the reason the last "issue" hit 103 pages was 70% of the posts were telling me, guru or anyone with similar opinion how stupid we are. The "issue" hit a nerve and most on here wanted to believe it was non "issue". Still going on in other threads regarding who broke the story Katz or IWB.
70% of the on-topic posts might have been doing that. But in reality that thread only got that long because well over half of it was completely off topic.
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"Part of the reason the last "issue" hit 103 pages was 70% of the posts were telling me, guru or anyone with similar opinion how stupid we are"
possibly cause you must have repeated a 100 or some times in the thread as well...
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Madtown
Agreed. Felt the need to address your idiotic posts and should have refrained.
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sorry - I guess the douchiness of the "I know something but can't tell you" posts and "my big booster friends say" posts brings out my idiotness...
Madtown
Agreed. Felt the need to address your idiotic posts and should have refrained.
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Madtown
Tell us something you know. Is all happy behind the scenes at MU? How's recruiting going? Any idea of possible transfers? Was SMU story real or made up? Really would welcome your inside info and the sources that provided info to you.
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sorry - I guess the douchiness of the "I know something but can't tell you" posts and "my big booster friends say" posts brings out my idiotness...
That's pretty dumb. The whole purpose of this board is to share in the combined information of the other members for discussion. Why do we always jump on people for trying to provide us more information than we currently have? I'm sorry Goose's comments make you sad that you don't have any inside information, but most of us appreciate insight into a situation we previously had less knowledge of.
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That's pretty dumb. The whole purpose of this board is to share in the combined information of the other members for discussion. Why do we always jump on people for trying to provide us more information than we currently have? I'm sorry Goose's comments make you sad that you don't have any inside information, but most of us appreciate insight into a situation we previously had less knowledge of.
False, internet message boards were created for people to have an anonymous outlet to call out there fellow man or woman in any fashion that they see fit, speculate on anything, spread false or malicious rumors, and try to fill various voids we all have in our own lives.
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Right on Reinko!!!
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"Part of the reason the last "issue" hit 103 pages was 70% of the posts were telling me, guru or anyone with similar opinion how stupid we are"
possibly cause you must have repeated a 100 or some times in the thread as well...
^ this. Half of that thread was taken up by the same group of posters posting the same set of rumors and half innuendos.
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I'm sorry Goose's comments make you sad that you don't have any inside information...
Yeah, I'm sad that I can't play the "I know something but cant tell you game" or "this might happen" games...
I'll just sit back and wait to see if Hiroshima II happens with MU's basketball team...
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Madtown
I told everyone on here what I knew but did not share sources. I stated MU admin (Fr. P), and some BOT have serious issues with our head coach. The issues are mainly related to school image and how the program reflects the goals of the school. I stated Buzz was on double secret probation, hence all the suspensions during the season. I stated that the school does not feel the basketball budget vs the success on the court may not be a great ROI. Stated that Buzz was unhappy with situation for months and not a marriage made in heaven the past year. Stated that the Buzz/SMU was high stakes of poker with both parties trying make other side bluff.
Not sure how any of that was not telling you what I knew. You and others blasted me for not telling sources. Please tell me how my posts were teasers post? Believe it or not I actually do have sources and they have sources...big frickin deal. I actually think more on here would like to hear inside info than not hear it.
Again, what do you have to prove my comments as incorrect?
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I can not prove your comments were incorrect or correct for that matter - but since "you have sources and your sources have sources" it must be true (or sometimes peoples sources are full of crap) or if you repeat it a hundred times (make that 101 times now), it must be true...
Madtown
I told everyone on here what I knew but did not share sources. I stated MU admin (Fr. P), and some BOT have serious issues with our head coach. The issues are mainly related to school image and how the program reflects the goals of the school. I stated Buzz was on double secret probation, hence all the suspensions during the season. I stated that the school does not feel the basketball budget vs the success on the court may not be a great ROI. Stated that Buzz was unhappy with situation for months and not a marriage made in heaven the past year. Stated that the Buzz/SMU was high stakes of poker with both parties trying make other side bluff.
Not sure how any of that was not telling you what I knew. You and others blasted me for not telling sources. Please tell me how my posts were teasers post? Believe it or not I actually do have sources and they have sources...big frickin deal. I actually think more on here would like to hear inside info than not hear it.
Again, what do you have to prove my comments as incorrect?
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^ this. Half of that thread was taken up by the same group of posters posting the same set of rumors and half innuendos.
But you started it!
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Madtwn,
If memory serves me you are not a MU alum, is that correct?
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The whole purpose of this board is to share in the combined information of the other members for discussion.
Finally a statement we can all agree on.
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But you started it!
My proudest Scoop moment.
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Any feedback from those who tried The Mazos Burger after reading the 104 page thread?
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actually Goose - undergrad and grad degree from Marquette (and season ticket holder for quite awhile)... and lived in Madison for awhile, hence the screen name...
Madtwn,
If memory serves me you are not a MU alum, is that correct?
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Any feedback from those who tried The Mazos Burger after reading the 104 page thread?
Bad Breath Killion thought the Thousand Island was a tad too spicy.
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Interesting, we have some pretty good "detectives" here. One of the clever posters, seems to have figured it out. ;)
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Bad Breath Killion thought the Thousand Island was a tad too spicy.
Bad Breath Killion would know. He's no stranger the World of Mazos!
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Take that, nerds.
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Take that, nerds.
(http://www.freewebs.com/twerd/Twilight-twilight-series-955245_500_313-1.jpg?0.3282826849712907)
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Madtown
I told everyone on here what I knew but did not share sources. I stated MU admin (Fr. P), and some BOT have serious issues with our head coach. The issues are mainly related to school image and how the program reflects the goals of the school. I stated Buzz was on double secret probation, hence all the suspensions during the season. I stated that the school does not feel the basketball budget vs the success on the court may not be a great ROI. Stated that Buzz was unhappy with situation for months and not a marriage made in heaven the past year. Stated that the Buzz/SMU was high stakes of poker with both parties trying make other side bluff.
Not sure how any of that was not telling you what I knew. You and others blasted me for not telling sources. Please tell me how my posts were teasers post? Believe it or not I actually do have sources and they have sources...big frickin deal. I actually think more on here would like to hear inside info than not hear it.
Again, what do you have to prove my comments as incorrect?
Those concerns are not restricted to just off court player issues but also recruiting rules and pushing the limits on what is allowed (re: chicagoland)
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(http://www.freewebs.com/twerd/Twilight-twilight-series-955245_500_313-1.jpg?0.3282826849712907)
(http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Still-a-better-love-story-than-twilight_1.jpg)
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Those concerns are not restricted to just off court player issues but also recruiting rules and pushing the limits on what is allowed (re: chicagoland)
What's been happening with recruiting in chicago?
i have no inside info, but to me, that seems to indicate Buzz isn't the good, character-driven coach I (we) thought he was if he's violating or close to violating recruiting rules. A neurotic guy like Buzz absolutely knows every rule, so i don't think ignorance would fly here as an excuse.
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Are we talking $ to recruits or their people?
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What's been happening with recruiting in chicago?
i have no inside info, but to me, that seems to indicate Buzz isn't the good, character-driven coach I (we) thought he was if he's violating or close to violating recruiting rules. A neurotic guy like Buzz absolutely knows every rule, so i don't think ignorance would fly here as an excuse.
Norm "Bad Breath" Killion coached the Marquette Men's foot bal program for years. Nary a whisper of illicit behavior. Nary a whisper.
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Source: Buzz to Hogwarts.
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Lets get this thread kicked into high gear.
River Fishing for walleyes...
*3 way swivel with lead for drop shot and willow cats on plain hook
* Dubuque rig with plain hook
* Monster jig head
* Lindy rig with 1/2 weight
* floating Rap on 3way swivel rig with large drop shot
Discuss....
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I would much rather tame the beasts of of the briny. The salty denizens of the deep fight better and eat better. Black marlin off Java or chinooks off Glacier test a man like no muskie
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This is fun. A whole new set of wild speculations backed up by nothing! In three pages most of them will be accepted as fact and then we'll get into the real crazy. 104 pages, here we come!
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Any feedback from those who tried The Mazos Burger after reading the 104 page thread?
Made my first trip there ONLY because I read about it here. Was... disappointed. Maybe the build-up was too much. I mean, it was good, but not special good. The meat seemed rather ordinary, and it only had lettuce and tomato on it because I asked... and paid 35 cents each extra. $11 for a burger with basic fries and a kinda small shake seemed a little exorbitant too. I was checking the place out as a potential gathering place for a family get together. The picture on the wall from the 50th anniversary in the same location - in 1998 - looked pretty much the same as today. Glad I tried it, just to say I've been there, but don't think I'll be going back.
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Norm "Bad Breath" Killion coached the Marquette Men's foot bal program for years. Nary a whisper of illicit behavior. Nary a whisper.
And what happened to the Marquette football program?
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And what happened to the Marquette football program?
It died from lack of interest. Obviously a club sport, football is much more expensive to play than baseball. Even the club hockey team was cheaper.
Bad Breath Killion was reduced to walking around campus stopping anyone who looked like they could ball. Sad
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I have a feeling its Vander Blue...
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I have a feeling its Vander Blue...
+1.
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"With a solid, 210-pound frame, Lockett could play a Vander Blue-type role and has the athleticism to drive to the paint and guard multiple positions."
I'll take that as a hint.
and this...
"or a current scholarship player not qualifying academically."
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MUskie
I would not jump to conclusions. Would not be surprised by a transfer but not going to jump ahead of myself. Guru stated that kid or kids would not be back and not by their own choice. If that were true I believe those transfers would have happened sooner rather than later. If it is a cool choice it would be better for kid to announce early. I am not buying guru after further thought.
I think if kids leave it is based on playing time, homesick or possibly chasing a dream. MU would look bad if things dragged out. A transfer in last couple of weeks blends in with other transfer easier than in May.
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"I am not buying guru after further thought."
What - no Hiroshima? it's gonna be pretty boring then...
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Madtown
Another great addition to the topic. Do you ever have anything to add or just throw darts?
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Lets get this thread kicked into high gear.
River Fishing for walleyes...
*3 way swivel with lead for drop shot and willow cats on plain hook
* Dubuque rig with plain hook
* Monster jig head
* Lindy rig with 1/2 weight
* floating Rap on 3way swivel rig with large drop shot
Discuss....
I caught 10 nice spotted sea trout on the St Johns River in Jacksonville couple weeks back, 1 pig 5.5lb. Using lures, of the topwater variety..
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Are we talking $ to recruits or their people?
I'd be mad if we weren't greasing any palms
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This is fun. A whole new set of wild speculations backed up by nothing! In three pages most of them will be accepted as fact and then we'll get into the real crazy. 104 pages, here we come!
+1
Beat me to it, TJ.
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LabWarrior
Looks like he beat you by a week. Did you hear Durley is not coming?
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Goose
Are you still scared of Buzz leaving, ninny?
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Hey, Buzz might head down and be Benford's assistant.
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Lunardi is the BIGGEST Twilight fan ever! I think he's a team Edward supporter deep down. To dive into the sparkliness, let us have a simple point/counter-point.
Edward/Bella, you're up first:
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000833747/polls_633644664019640883_vampires_5959_656142_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg)
An interesting point. And now, for our counter-point:
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n240/cutter9999/keifer-sutherland-vampires-sparkle.jpg)
Jack Bauer. Even as a vampire, he wins.
Those who have watched Twilight, however... have lost.
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LabWarrior
Looks like he beat you by a week. Did you hear Durley is not coming?
Durley not coming? Quit making stuff up. 'Cause if something doesn't happen it means it never could have happened. And this hasn't happened. Oh...Wait...Never mind.
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I was much too worried about Buzz leaving based on all your concerning posts and now was waiting out the impending Hiroshima - how can I possibly think about anything that really matters to MU basketball..
this board is awesome... I am sure there can be another impending MU disaster you can worry about and promote endless pages of stupid speculation if the Hiroshima not coming as promised - Goose, isn't there?
Madtown
Another great addition to the topic. Do you ever have anything to add or just throw darts?
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I was much too worried about Buzz leaving based on all your concerning posts and now was waiting out the impending Hiroshima - how can I possibly think about anything that really matters to MU basketball..
this board is awesome... I am sure there can be another impending MU disaster you can worry about and promote endless pages of stupid speculation if the Hiroshima not coming as promised - Goose, isn't there?
I think being in Madison is rubbing off on you. It is possible to speculate on things that may or may not happen. If only it were possible for you to avoid posting in threads you're going to add nothing to.
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If adding value with ones post was a criteria, there might be 5 posts in this whole forum...
I think being in Madison is rubbing off on you. It is possible to speculate on things that may or may not happen. If only it were possible for you to avoid posting in threads you're going to add nothing to.
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If adding value with ones post was a criteria, there might be 5 posts in this whole forum...
He does have a point.
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He does have a point.
Yea, I admittedly lobbed that one up there for him.
I still maintain that players/Buzz possibly leaving the program are worth discussing on this board.
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Yea, I admittedly lobbed that one up there for him.
I still maintain that players/Buzz possibly leaving the program are worth discussing on this board.
On the other hand - dark, shadowy, unsubstantiated posts about impending doom...
The post that started it all:
I WAS very optimistic about next year, until.....well let's just say the roster will not look like it does now unfortunately. Be prepared.....
I'm all for concealing your sources, but come on. There's nothing there. Why did people run with that and stir up a frenzy?
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Why are people so quick to rip muguru over this? Look at the recruiting pattern recently. Buzz is still recruiting shooting guards for next season. I can see Lockett, since it's one year, but MU has been mentioned with several guys at that position. Sure looks to me like he's covering his bases.
We'll find out in a couple weeks how many spots will be open.
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Why are people so quick to rip muguru over this? Look at the recruiting pattern recently. Buzz is still recruiting shooting guards for next season. I can see Lockett, since it's one year, but MU has been mentioned with several guys at that position. Sure looks to me like he's covering his bases.
We'll find out in a couple weeks how many spots will be open.
Yes, people that are quick to dismiss this have their heads in the sand. Where there's smoke there's fire.
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Why are people so quick to rip muguru over this? Look at the recruiting pattern recently. Buzz is still recruiting shooting guards for next season. I can see Lockett, since it's one year, but MU has been mentioned with several guys at that position. Sure looks to me like he's covering his bases.
We'll find out in a couple weeks how many spots will be open.
muguru can post what he wants. I think it's wild speculation (especially when he continued on to say it's not basketball or off-court issue related), but maybe he's very well informed and half the team was this close to being forced out.
However, the posters who took that cryptic post and ran with it, treating it like fact and inferring more unsubstantiated rumors from it - that I feel is unnecessary and not valid or particularly helpful to the discussion.
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Yes, people that are quick to dismiss this have their heads in the sand. Where there's smoke there's fire.
Like that. Maybe Bocephys is Larry Williams himself, but probably not. Therefore, all this post does is further the unsubstantiated rumors.
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Like that. Maybe Bocephys is Larry Williams himself, but probably not. Therefore, all this post does is further the unsubstantiated rumors.
Just look at the evidence. We're not typically involved with this many players with only one scholarship open, plus the admin and Buzz are clearly at odds as has been confirmed by every major media outlet. Are you saying its not even comprehensible that something may go down and we lose a few scholarship players before June? I guess I'm just not that naive.
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Just look at the evidence. We're not typically involved with this many players with only one scholarship open,
From what I remember, Buzz is always recruiting every year, even with no scholarship open.
plus the admin and Buzz are clearly at odds as has been confirmed by every major media outlet.
I think that's a VAST overstatement. I'd like to see these many confirmations please. Every major media outlet covers a lot more than a 20 word Jason King blog post. I'm not saying nothing happened, but it's not as "clear" as you seem to think.
Are you saying its not even comprehensible that something may go down and we lose a few scholarship players before June? I guess I'm just not that naive.
Of course it's possible. We don't have any reason to think it's all that likely, but it's certainly possible. As you said, look at the evidence... there's nothing but hearsay and speculation. For some reason, people love to run with that and make further rumors and speculation. And then others start saying things like "Where there's smoke there's fire."
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Yes, people that are quick to dismiss this have their heads in the sand. Where there's smoke there's fire.
This is true, but is the smoke coming from MU, or from the internet?
A lot of innuendos and rumors get repeated 100x, and then suddenly it becomes "fact". It's like urban legend.