Vander to the NBA draft

[ChicosBailBonds]

McGary is from Indiana. Chicos is upset that Crean cooled on him.

I was worried Crean was going to give him Isaiah Thomas jersey number, so we dodged one there.

McGary chose UM over Duke, Florida, Kentucky and UNC. 

IU recruited him for the 2011 class, but McGary reclassified to 2012 and they were already over signed.  He also flunked his junior year of high school and had to repeat the year entirely...not the sharpest bulb (that's why he is at UM    )



 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Think Beilein will claim McGary couldn't make a layup when he arrived on campus like Crean did with Bob Jackson?

And yet Bob Jackson still tweeting about his former coach....crazy.  They've all been fooled apparently.  Diener, Bob, Dwyane, Steve, etc...all fooled.

[4everwarriors]

Lotta folks were fooled. Not Wes, though.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Lotta folks were fooled. Not Wes, though.

Apparently still fooled....per comments last week from some of those same guys.  Hopefully they come to Scoop and the folks here that spent maybe 24 hours with him can set them straight and the minutes, hours, days, months, years they spent with him can be trumped.  That's really our only hope that the national nightmare ends.

[avid1010]

And yet Bob Jackson still tweeting about his former coach....crazy.  They've all been fooled apparently.  Diener, Bob, Dwyane, Steve, etc...all fooled.

did he leave (in a ridiculous manner) diener, bob, dwyane, steve???

heck, there were rutgers players defending rice this week.  

[Otule's Glass Eye]

How tall was Kimba Walker?

Only 6'1, and if I remember correctly he led UConn to a title winning me $200 in my bracket.

[avid1010]

Apparently still fooled....per comments last week from some of those same guys.  Hopefully they come to Scoop and the folks here that spent maybe 24 hours with him can set them straight and the minutes, hours, days, months, years they spent with him can be trumped.  That's really our only hope that the national nightmare ends.

but you admit he's a prick...so what's your point?

[4everwarriors]

Chicos Man, I love you like a brother. But, we ain't never gonna agree on Crean or big men vs guards.

[ChicosBailBonds]

but you admit he's a prick...so what's your point?

My point is to you, me, 4ever, etc, he's a prick. To people that give their blood, sweat, tears, and essentially their lives...he has a different appeal.  People need to recognize that.  Haven't you ever had a boss that was just a whale of a douche and then you find out through the grapevine in out of office hours he's practically a saint....donating time, money, etc for causes, etc?   

Lots of people are pricks, lots of those same people are universally loved by those that know them best.  Rather interesting.

[Lennys Tap]

I'd expect a lottery pick to average 15 points per game, not 7.  I'd want to know why he disappeared in half their games this year.  Is it desire?  Lack of it?  Maybe the NBA will engineer the brutal Nebraska, IUPUI, Penn State defense around him to slow him down from his future Hall of Fame career (I'm teasing, I think the kid is good, really good, but he is so inconsistent it's incredible)

Never said he would be a hall of famer, never said he was consistent this year. That's all blah blah, blah. All I said was he's a lottery pick if he comes out. Put up or....

[4everwarriors]

The 12th St. college I attended taught me to judge people by their actions and not by their words. Crean is a constant contradiction. Moreover, he thinks he's fooling everyone.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chicos Man, I love you like a brother. But, we ain't never gonna agree on Crean or big men vs guards.

I think we agree on Crean more than you think.  My point is that those that know him best, actually love him.  Just like most here would say Jim Harbaugh is a prick, many of his players would run through a brick wall for him.  Mike Ditka, etc, etc.  Lots of guys like that.

On big men and guards, you are right...we won't agree.  Guards game, especially the last 20 years. 

[avid1010]

My point is to you, me, 4ever, etc, he's a prick. To people that give their blood, sweat, tears, and essentially their lives...he has a different appeal.  People need to recognize that.  Haven't you ever had a boss that was just a whale of a douche and then you find out through the grapevine in out of office hours he's practically a saint....donating time, money, etc for causes, etc?   

Lots of people are pricks, lots of those same people are universally loved by those that know them best.  Rather interesting.

yup...and as a boss...i make sure i'm good to those that i meet for 5 min. and those that i've known for 5 years.  and never would i treat my wife and kids the way i observed him do so.  

rather interesting that the people he seems to associate with are those that can do something for him...then when he doesn't need them any longer he plays them like a wes, dj, or mcneal.  

[ChicosBailBonds]

Never said he would be a hall of famer, never said he was consistent this year. That's all blah blah, blah. All I said was he's a lottery pick if he comes out. Put up or....

That's why I said I was teasing...remember that post a few pages ago where I said you don't read everything and only parts...you said that wasn't the case.

Ahem.


It is the case.


Sure, I'll jump on your bet, even though I'd be stunned if he comes out because he isn't a lottery pick.  But sure, whatever. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

yup...and as a boss...i make sure i'm good to those that i meet for 5 min. and those that i've known for 5 years.  and never would i treat my wife and kids the way i observed him do so.  

rather interesting that the people he seems to associate with are those that can do something for him...then when he doesn't need them any longer he plays them like a wes, dj, or mcneal.  

His wife and kids, what are you talking about?

Interesting that some of his former players that didn't amount to much in college still associate with him, despite them "not doing anything for him".  People see what they want to see.

[4everwarriors]

Referencin' personal observation of Coach Crean at Mequon CC where he was a waiter.

[Waryours]

IU recruited him for the 2011 class, but McGary reclassified to 2012 and they were already over signed.  He also flunked his junior year of high school and had to repeat the year entirely...not the sharpest bulb (that's why he is at UM    )

Susie Lee Weiss just read this and freaked... 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Wife and kids ignoring Dad at 8? That's a shame!

[Nukem2]

PRN and 4ever need to tone down their acts.  Beyond tacky...  Not to mention simply disgusting.   Moderators, you need to control these two.  All those innuendoes.   

[Aughnanure]

Never said he would be a hall of famer, never said he was consistent this year. That's all blah blah, blah. All I said was he's a lottery pick if he comes out. Put up or....

A semi-tall white guy who only had a few great games and can't make free throws? Not happening.

[Lennys Tap]

yup...and as a boss...i make sure i'm good to those that i meet for 5 min. and those that i've known for 5 years.  and never would i treat my wife and kids the way i observed him do so.  

rather interesting that the people he seems to associate with are those that can do something for him...then when he doesn't need them any longer he plays them like a wes, dj, or mcneal.  

So many people have been beating this drum for so many years here. The guy's a phony with a capital ph in addition to being a douche, but that won't stop a few here from defending him at every turn.

[MUDPT]

For what it's worth, I've heard from two different people in Madison that Vander is leaving.  One that is close to Memorial said that NBA teams have called old HS/ AAU coaches, doing background checks.

[Aughnanure]

So many people have been beating this drum for so many years here. The guy's a phony with a capital ph in addition to being a douche, but that won't stop a few here from defending him at every turn.

A lot of douches have done a lot of good things. It's nice to know we're generally on the receiving end of all of his.

[Aughnanure]

For what it's worth, I've heard from two different people in Madison that Vander is leaving.  One that is close to Memorial said that NBA teams have called old HS/ AAU coaches, doing background checks.

No one should ever leave early w/out a guarantee of being a lottery pick. And no one should even consider leaving unless they are guaranteed a first round pick. I'm sure some teams have called, but that just means they are doing their job.

He has a chance to be a mid 1st round pick next year, possibly better, and it would be foolish to throw that away. Anything less than a 1st round pick would be a disaster for him. Non-guaranteed money is no money.

[Tugg Speedman]

No one should ever leave early w/out a guarantee of being a lottery pick. And no one should even consider leaving unless they are guaranteed a first round pick. I'm sure some teams have called, but that just means they are doing their job.

He has a chance to be a mid 1st round pick next year, possibly better, and it would be foolish to throw that away. Anything less than a 1st round pick would be a disaster for him. Non-guaranteed money is no money.

He should talk to DJO about being a late second round pick and how that works out.