NFC North / NFL Thread 2017-18

[mu03eng]

NFC North: Packers
NFC East: Eagles
NFC South: Bucs
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC Wild Card 1: Falcons
NFC Wild Card 2: Giants

NFC Champ: Seahawks

AFC North: Steelers
AFC East: Pats
AFC South: Texans
AFC West: Chargers
AFC Wild Card 1: Chiefs
AFC Wild Card 2: Raiders

AFC Champ: Pats

Super Bowl Champion: Seahawks

Trubisky starts Week 5 against the Vikings. And, I think the Jets go 0-16.

I see someone clearly doesn't believe offensive line play matters.

[Pakuni]

NFC North: Packers
NFC East: Giants
NFC South: Falcons
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC Wild Card 1: Cowboys
NFC Wild Card 2: Cardinals

NFC Champ: Packers

AFC North: Steelers
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Titans
AFC West: Raiders
AFC Wild Card 1: Bengals
AFC Wild Card 2: Chiefs

AFC Champ: Patriots

Super Bowl Champion: Patriots

[RJax55]

I see someone clearly doesn't believe offensive line play matters.

I like the Seahawks defense, a lot. Perhaps, I'm overrating the Richardson move. But, he could be a real difference maker and move that defense back in the elite category. Enough to overcome their bad o-line. But, yes, that's Seattle's Achilles Heel.

On the others, I think the Chargers o-line will hold up. New offensive system, less pressure on Rivers to make plays. And, I think their defense will be one of the better units in the league. On the Giants, yeah, they could fall apart. But, I see major flaws for most of the teams battling for that 2nd NFC wildcard spot.

[Jockey]

 

Yes, fans will turn off the games.  The question is to what degree and how deep.  The NFL will then likely stop having the national anthem televised, meaning they will play it while the players are in the locker room. 

Huh.... Why would the players be in the locker room? They come out of the tunnel for introductions and then the anthem is played. It was almost never televised, except in Super Bowl, before, and players were already on the field.


But, why is it played at all? In Europe, before sporting events, countries don't play their anthem. It's not played before a movie or concert. It's not played before all these patriotic town halls that politicians run or even in city hall meetings. Why is it even played before a GAME?

We get enough propaganda from politicians. Do we need it at sporting events? Is singing the words "land of the free" going to make some people actually believe it?

[drewm88]

NFC North: Packers
NFC East: Giants
NFC South: Panthers
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC Wild Card 1: Cardinals
NFC Wild Card 2: Bucs

NFC Champ: Packers

AFC North: Steelers
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Titans
AFC West: Raiders
AFC Wild Card 1: Chiefs
AFC Wild Card 2: Dolphins

AFC Champ: Steelers

Super Bowl Champion: Packers

[MUBurrow]

NFC North: Packers
NFC East: Giants
NFC South: Saints
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC Wild Card 1: Lions
NFC Wild Card 2: Cowboys

NFC Champ: Seahawks

AFC North: Ravens
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Jaguars
AFC West: Chiefs
AFC Wild Card 1: Raiders
AFC Wild Card 2: Steelers

AFC Champ: Patriots

Super Bowl Champion: Patriots

[wadesworld]

NFC North: Packers
NFC East: Giants
NFC South: Saints
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC Wild Card 1: Lions
NFC Wild Card 2: Cowboys

NFC Champ: Seahawks

AFC North: Ravens
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Jaguars
AFC West: Chiefs
AFC Wild Card 1: Raiders
AFC Wild Card 2: Steelers

AFC Champ: Patriots

Super Bowl Champion: Patriots

Don't do that.

[MUBurrow]

Don't do that.

This made me laugh out loud.

Thought being, their qb situation is no worse than Hou or Ind (certainly seems like they're hiding a lot of smoke on Luck). They're probably a better team than Indy without Luck, and Hou is another Watt injury away from being just another team. That leaves Ten, and hell, maybe they regress or Mariota doesn't make the jump. Idk, low risk upset pick since there's little chance a team in this division gets passed the second place team in the North or West anyway. But I agree, I'm not rushing to the Westgate counter with that one.

[DegenerateDish]

Packers
Eagles
Bucs
Cardinals

Washington football club
Seahawks

Steelers
Pats
Titans
Chiefs

Chargers
Raiders

Pats/Packers

Pats

[dgies9156]

NFC North: Packers
NFC South: Falcons
NFC East: Cowboys
NFC West: Seaturds

AFC East: New England
AFC South: Titans
AFC West: raiders
AFC North: Pittsburgh

NFC Wildcards:  Vikings, Giants
AFC Wild Cards: Dolphins, Chiefs

AFC Champs: New England
NFC Champs: Green Bay
Super Bowl Champs: Green Bay

Bears: 2-14, first win against 49ers on December 3; other win against Browns on Christmas Eve
November 13: Day John Fox is fired and interim coach named. Ryan Pace also fired by Thanksgiving

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

NFC
North: Packers
South: Falcons
East: Cowboys
West: Seahawks

WC: Panthers and who knows

AFC

North: Steelers
South: Titans
East: Patriots
West: Raiders

WC: Chiefs and Bengals

Bears go 5-11 or 6-10, defense is much improved but zero capable wide receivers paired with Glennon or a rookie Trubisky ends in disaster, and no, Kevin White is not a capable wide receiver.

[rocket surgeon]

Huh.... Why would the players be in the locker room? They come out of the tunnel for introductions and then the anthem is played. It was almost never televised, except in Super Bowl, before, and players were already on the field.


But, why is it played at all? In Europe, before sporting events, countries don't play their anthem. It's not played before a movie or concert. It's not played before all these patriotic town halls that politicians run or even in city hall meetings. Why is it even played before a GAME?

We get enough propaganda from politicians. Do we need it at sporting events? Is singing the words "land of the free" going to make some people actually believe it?

holy cow!  now this is tripe-ish and a bad take as well-ayyy'na?  cuz a team won't sign a mediocre, controversial back-up, we aren't free?   ay ay comrade

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Has there ever been a more lopsided division than this year's AFC East? Arguably the best team in football paired with 3 of the six worst.... Including the absolute worst.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots score more points in one game than the rest of their conference scores against them in the entire season.

[Pakuni]

Has there ever been a more lopsided division than this year's AFC East? Arguably the best team in football paired with 3 of the six worst.... Including the absolute worst.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots score more points in one game than the rest of their conference scores against them in the entire season.

The Dolphins are returning most of their key players from a team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs last year. I know there aren't many Cutler fans around here, but he's not a downgrade from Ryan Tannehill. They may not make the playoffs again, but they're not one of the six worst teams in the league either.

[RJax55]

The Dolphins are returning most of their key players from a team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs last year. I know there aren't many Cutler fans around here, but he's not a downgrade from Ryan Tannehill. They may not make the playoffs again, but they're not one of the six worst teams in the league either.

Agree. Dolphins might not make the playoffs, but they are not one of the worst teams in football. And that would be case no matter if their QB was Tannehill, Cutler or even Matt Moore.

[tower912]

I heard a fair assessment today.   There are 3-4 teams that are good enough to win 12 games.    There are 3-4 teams that are bad enough that you they will probably only win 4 games.    Almost everybody else is in the middle.   If they stay healthy and get a few bounces at the right time, they can win 10 games.    If they lose 1-2 of the wrong players and have a couple of breaks/bounces/calls go against them, they will win 6 games. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Dolphins are returning most of their key players from a team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs last year. I know there aren't many Cutler fans around here, but he's not a downgrade from Ryan Tannehill. They may not make the playoffs again, but they're not one of the six worst teams in the league either.

ESPN thinks so:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/NFLpowerrankingsx170815/2017-preseason-nfl-power-rankings-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons-seattle-seahawks-front

Sorry, worst 7.

And I might have my maroon glasses on but I think Cutler is a downgrade from Tannehill.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

ESPN thinks so:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/NFLpowerrankingsx170815/2017-preseason-nfl-power-rankings-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons-seattle-seahawks-front

Sorry, worst 7.

And I might have my maroon glasses on but I think Cutler is a downgrade from Tannehill.

You're really gonna listen to ESPNs power ranking after all the garbage recruiting rankings they throw out?

[Jay Bee]

Will be interesting to see the line on the Super Bowl game with Minnesota having a pseudo home game. Looking forward to February! #SKOL #ShieldTheNorth

[GB Warrior]

Has there ever been a more lopsided division than this year's AFC East? Arguably the best team in football paired with 3 of the six worst.... Including the absolute worst.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots score more points in one game than the rest of their conference scores against them in the entire season.

Last year's AFC East?

[GB Warrior]

This made me laugh out loud.

Thought being, their qb situation is no worse than Hou or Ind (certainly seems like they're hiding a lot of smoke on Luck). They're probably a better team than Indy without Luck, and Hou is another Watt injury away from being just another team. That leaves Ten, and hell, maybe they regress or Mariota doesn't make the jump. Idk, low risk upset pick since there's little chance a team in this division gets passed the second place team in the North or West anyway. But I agree, I'm not rushing to the Westgate counter with that one.

Yes it is.

I think the only way the Titans don't win the division is if Mariota loses one of his knees. Don't think a "jump" is required.

I know Andrew Luck's  old GM did him no favors in subjecting him to the David Carr experience, but can the NFL stop talking like he's a transcendent superstar? Maybe he'll figure it out, but he's borderline top 10

[dgies9156]

So what's the Over/Under on the Bears? 3, 4 or five wins?

[DegenerateDish]

So what's the Over/Under on the Bears? 3, 4 or five wins?

Bears defense is going to be pretty good. By no means do I think the Bears will be good overall, but they will be better than people think.

[Jay Bee]

Bears defense is going to be pretty good. By no means do I think the Bears will be good overall, but they will be better than people think.

How many wins, boi???

[dgies9156]

Bears defense is going to be pretty good. By no means do I think the Bears will be good overall, but they will be better than people think.

The secondary is porous. Any quarterback who can stay upright for two seconds will pick it apart.

How many wins bro?

I'm guessing 2 or 3, if they're lucky and I am a Bear season ticket holder. This team stinks, period. They'll fight with the Browns and 49ers for the first draft choice.